A new twist on on an old question;
Believed to be the first test of its kind in Europe, the southern state of Baden-W�rttemberg has created the two-hour oral exam to test the loyalty of Muslims towards Germany.
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Until now, all applicants have simply had to tick a Yes or No box to answer whether they felt loyalty to Germany.
But now they will be quizzed on their attitudes to homosexuality and western clothing for young women, and whether husbands should be allowed to beat their wives.
Other questions covering topics such as bigamy and whether parents should allow their children to participate in school sports have been called “trick questions”, meant to catch people off guard.
The state interior ministry said the test would be used to filter out Muslims who were unsuited for life in Germany. Those who answered “correctly” but later acted against expected behaviour, such as wife- beating, could have their citizenship removed.
Well as they say – rtfq!
Canada should have some sort of contract in the immigration process that immigrants agree to the Canadian way of life and Canadian laws. If they don’t, don’t come here. If they agree, and then break the laws, or worse, fight as terrorists, then they should lose all standing in Canada and be deported or incarcerated.
Kyla, deport or incarcerate? That seems like such an unCanadian thing to do!
But I agree. If only.
I can see the need for a proper citizenship test for immigrants.
I can’t escape the nagging feeling that in this government’s hands, a “Canadian values” test would be used to select immigrants based on their willingness to support the Liberal party platform.
I am also concerned that some of the questions–particularly concerning attitudes towards abortion and homosexuality–could be used to exclude persons with strong conscientious objections to the promotion of both.
And who’s to say it couldn’t be administered on native-born Canadian citizens to determine whether their citizenship rights should be revoked for failure to support Canadian/Liberal Party values?
“Canada should have some sort of contract in the immigration process that immigrants agree to the Canadian way of life and Canadian laws…”
Great idea but how many readers of this blog would answer correctly the questions made up by Trudeaupian bureaucrats who have redefined the Canadian “way of life” and its laws over the past 30 years?
“Do you believe that young adults of 14 should have the legal right be in control of their own sexuality?”
“Do you believe that it’s worthwhile to pay high taxes to ensure that everybody benefits equally from government services?”
“Do you believe that Canada has a role to serve as a conscience for the rest of the world, particularly for super-powers?”
“Do you believe you’re nice enough to be a Canadian?”
Good post! It makes the contract law aspect of immigration more obvious. Adding “societal compatibility” clauses with heavy consequences to ensure there’s more benefit than liability in allowing immigrants into a new country makes sense. Immigration has to be openly good for both sides or it will cease to happen.
Germany has found a legal way of saying “if you don’t like our country or it’s people, stay home”.
Such a test would screen out only those stupid (or arrogant) enough to answer truthfully; better accuracy might be possible if remote testing – ‘lie detector’ processes by competent operatives – accompanied the formal one?
It will be interesting to see if the Germans actually go through with it; to resolve the “discrimination” issue, they just need to add a few more questions & ask EVERYBODY applying for citizenship…
Although I agree with those above who shudder at the idea of all Canadians being asked how we feel about “Canadian” values. I just got called a bigot by a communist on another site. LOL. Idiot.
Last night just before the ball dropped in Times Square, the crowds were singing along with John Lennon’s “Imagine”…
Meanwhile, thousands upon thousands of law enforcement, intelligence and security types were praying (yes praying) that they hadn’t missed anything or anyone they shouldn’t have. Nothing so far on the geiger counters…
Yes, darlin’ – some people have values that are just a little bit different than our Judeo-Christian foundations…
… not that there’s anything wrong with having different values.
Useless to ask Moslems questions requiring truthful answers as they get a pass from their religion for lying.
I had predicted that the backlash to years of open borders muticult policy in socialist Europe would come in the form of a renewed nationalist political movement. I can see the rebirth of Eruo-nationalism with such an immigration policy in Germany and Austria. France will follow then Spain and Italy.
Euopean national character/cultures are distinct and unique and deeply engrained in each nations populism… for such ethnically distinct nations to reject melting pot for sloppy EU no borders multicult homoginization, was a disaster waiting to happen.
Historically Euros are bipolar in their politics…they embrace either the tight cultural nationalism of militarized imperialism or fascism or the impracticable cultural homogenization of emasculating decadent socialism.
Perhaps the new nationalist backlash against fundamentalist Islam and its cultural fanaticism will not only see an end to EU-socialist-globalist cultural/national homoginization policy but a resurgence of rational Euro-nationalist republicanism. It seems Austria Germany and The Czech and Polish republics are leading the charge in this direction.
What goes around comes around. The only problem is that when the pendulum swings back it is usually hard, fast and blind.
Whats wrong with massive unchecked immigration of Muslims? /sarcasm off
Here’s a good tally of politically correct questions:
1. Are you in favour of suppressing religious zealots in their quest to legislate moral obligations to young adults?
2. Would you agree in order to maintain balanced power it has to be managed by a centralized government in Ottawa?
3. Do you feel do you feel factions in Canada going against the recent supreme court rulings cause division and strife?
Those who don’t pass the German litmus test for absolute assimilation will not doubt turn to Canada where accommodation trumps assimilation and swearing allegiance to anything other than your own best interests is against the Charter of Rights.
After being stationed for over a decade in Germany,i can honestly say that the rise in nationalism is vastly undereported in the western media.Certain parts of the former east Germany have had riots ,blamed on the left over economic transition to the west and unchecked immigration.
The rise of the extreme right should therefore come as no suprise.There have been 10,000 person marches(yes,you read that right..)against immigration in areas where no white German would dare walk.There are areas in German cities where Turks rule the streets,and police will not operate under any circumstance
Kursk:
“The rise of the extreme right should therefore come as no suprise.”
Do you believe that this new german policy of deporting immigrants who demonstrate a refusal to recognize national laws and human rights was born solely out of a rise in right wing political support?
what would Kanaduh ask the Khadrs.?
Do you support Osama Bin Laden?
alright , your in.
I will answer those questions and not feel put upon in the least
1. I wouldn’t be thrilled, but would accept his wishes on how to live his own life.
2. Of course, swimming is healthy and useful skill.
3. I would never beat my wife even if she doesn’t always agree with me.
4. My adult daughter can dress any way she chooses, it’s her wardrobe.
5. Bigamy might be fun, but the one wife I have is all I can manage thank you very much.
There .. now .. can I move to Dusseldorff?
someone better look at the immigration situation long and hard. every immigrant that enters this country is supplied an immigration lawyer at tax payer’s expense when they touch the soil. the entire industry is a bloated lieberal legal winfall. thank god for trudeau. bless the charter of lawyer’s rights.
“Perhaps the new nationalist backlash against fundamentalist Islam and its cultural fanaticism will not only see an end to EU-socialist-globalist cultural/national homoginization policy but a resurgence of rational Euro-nationalist republicanism.”
That “backlash” is wishful thinking. I’m not even sure that when, not if, at some future date the Islamofascists level the Louve, the Vatican, and Notre Dame – icons of Western culture – that the spineless Euroweenies will take their rage to the streets.(Where was the backlash after the bombing atrocities in London and Madrid and lawless car burnings in Paris?) Europe is post-Christian, nihilism and cynacism having replaced it. We are talking about people who at this point in history aren’t even interested in replacing themselves at their present birthrate.
The torched decadent nudes in the Louve might bring a sigh or two from art historians, but Europeans will console themselves with a high tech digital archive of the lost art, virtual pleasures being the safest tack in future Eurabia.
Common sense didn’t save Europe from burning itself to the ground twice in the last century. What would change the chances of these historically deluded sheeple from not crossing the abyss again?
Loyalist,
“I can’t escape the nagging feeling that in this government’s hands, a “Canadian values” test would be used to select immigrants based on their willingness to support the Liberal party platform.”
Have they not already engineered their own urban electorate over the 40 years?
Kursk,
“There are areas in German cities where Turks rule the streets,and police will not operate under any circumstance”
There are suburbs in the GTA that cops avoid too…
C
This is indeed interesting. I first thought that the immigration contract was a good thing but after listening to others, I’m not so sure. Chances are that if the Lieberals write the “contract”, most of us on this blog would be turfed out. And then again those who are in the country illegally or with harmful intentions would certainly not answer truthfully.
Life was a lot simpler before PET. Most immigrants came to Canada to join in a better way of life. Keeping the culture of the old country was mostly traditions and foods. It all blended as I remember fondly growing up in northern Ontario. Visiting my Italian, Finnish or Ukranian buddies was always enjoyable because mothers of that day always ensured the kids were not hungry.
Then that multicultural crap came out and the walls came up, especially with the latest new Canadians. Everyone now wants their own definition of “Canadiana” and damn anyone else who doesn’t like it their way. There are some things I guess I’ll never understand.
It’s really amusing that “immigation” is the word for the mass resettlement by multiculturalists of the leftist’s misguided guilt types of incongrueous groups today – anti-secular(Islam), democracy and all things western hating – geographically into our culture.
Immigration, as my grandfather – Ireland to the US – understood was a committment, not unlike his marriage, where one gave up the old in order to get to the new. And the “new” was what he wanted and cherished. He was willing to be Americanized, see the flaws of the Old Country, remake Catholiscism into a more secular paradigm, take risks and pledge allegiance to different set of ideals.
My point being that you haven’t immigrated, you’ve just played the global system economically, if you withhold total patriotism and allegiance.
We have made a huge mistake in not as culture demanding allegiance of immigrants. Otherwise, as is being demonstrated in Europe, we all stand to lose our unique culture.
Ottawa Core: Do you mean to tell me that I could have gotten a free immigration lawyer? I paid for one out of my own pocket – and he’s a Liberal. Wouldn’t he have a responsibility to tell me there was a free option?
Martin B..
In some respects ,yes.There is an anti immigrant backlash that has had a five to six year brewing time.The interesting thing is that it is not an exclusively centre-centre right backlash. Some of the most vocal proponents have been moderate left leaning politicians.A great backlash is coming in some of Germany’s bigger cities,and i predict that in the next few years you will see the rise of the right in numbers not seen since the fifties.
Alberta has the highest incidence of spousel abuse. What a great province…..NOT!!!!
Kursk,
Self preservation’s a basic human instinct that most people (left, right & center) have. Immigration is normally seen as a good thing but after the vicious events seen in Europe, it obviously needs more checks and balances to prevent further harm. Western countries don’t need to grow immigrant communities inside their borders that despise and reject the laws of the land or the rights of its’ citizens. I believe most people regardless of political stripe would accept measures to prevent the growth of such hate communities to protect themselves from becoming future victims of idealogical violence.
ok4ua
Alberta has the highest incidence of spousal abuse??
lets ask them to leave, who needs their kind.
keep the murderous NWT, Yukon,Nunavit and Sask. types instead. murder rates per capita at three times that of the centre of the universe–Trona.
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