“Ignatieff blasts ‘transparent’ attempt to sow Liberal dissent” reads the headline…
Author and scholar Michael Ignatieff pledged his affinity Monday to Canada’s Ukrainian community and branded efforts to discredit him on the eve of the federal election campaign a �transparent attempt� to twist his writing and sow dissent within the Liberal Party.
“Readers blast the Globe and Ignatieff” reads the comments…
” I find it galling Ignatieff would consider his hijacking of the candidate selection process anything other than a thinly veiled attempt by Paul Martin to ‘parachute in’ another Liberal bag-man and syncophant.”
“The press release issued by the Membership Secretary of the Etobicoke Lakeshore Federal Liberal Riding Association alleges that the Liberal Headquarters in Toronto locked their doors early and would not respond to phone calls to avoid receiving the nominations of the two candidates, despite staffers being visible through the windows. That’s a detail the Globe ought not to omit.”
“Mr. Ignatieff, are you not ashamed of the method which was used to install you as the candidate for Etobicoke – Lakeshore?How can you condone the shafting of two Liberal legitimate nominees?If your actions match your words, you should refuse the nomination until a proper nomination contest is organized.Otherwise you are just a Ivy League hypocrite.”
Justice, indeed!!! Human rights, indeed!!!
It’s the Liebral way donchano!!
“Two potential candidates in the riding have also complained that they were not given enough time to turn in their nomination forms.”
What the Globe actually means is:
“Two qualified non-parachuted non-Martin buddy candidates submitted their papers on time but the local Liberal Riding Association flacks, bagmen and fart-catchers locked the doors before the regular closing time and refused to allow entry to the candidates.”
A liberal spokesman said “That’s how we do democracy in the Liberal Party, we make teh democratic deficit happen”
Liberals are not as pure as they try and tell us.
However maybe they only worry about French and English- the rest really don’t count and the rest are just”chopped liver” as Izzy ASper once accused the government’s treatment of others
Michael Ignatieff>>
http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1995/059515.shtml
“And then there was Michael Ignatieff, a Canadian born of Russian parents. He hosted a program called “Blood and Belonging,” which aired on PBS last March 27. Traveling to eastern Ukraine, he interviewed Vladimir, a Russian coal miner who complained that Ukrainian nationalism is making life hard for him because his children “have to learn Ukrainian in the schools.” Mr. Ignatieff then took his viewers to the Crimea where we heard more moaning and groaning about the “tyranny” of Ukrainian nationalism upon the recently returned Tatar population. In Lviv where Ukrainian nationalism is the strongest, Mr. Ignatieff emphasized that while Ukrainians and Russians in eastern Ukraine fought side by side to rid their homeland of the Nazis, western Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis and “some even collaborated with them.” >>>
Ignatieff supported war on Saddam:
“On a recent lecture swing through Manitoba and Saskatchewan, Ignatieff took his lumps, in question-and-answer sessions, from audiences that saw his hawkish stance as letting down the liberal side. He says he was happy to hear them out. “All appearances to the contrary, I believe I’m a highly fallible person,” Ignatieff told Maclean’s in an interview in his office at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. Not that he has changed his mind. He argues that anti-war Canadians were too worried about the way Washington was flexing its military muscle — and nowhere near outraged enough over how Saddam Hussein had long used his. “What I felt was disappointing about a lot of Canadian opposition to the war was that very few people seemed to give a damn about the human-rights situation,” Ignatieff says. “Very few seemed to care that peace had the consequence of leaving 26 million people inside a really odious tyranny.” >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?57OYUC2P
macleans.ca
Maz2 – have you emailed this to the Ukrainian association in the Etobicoke riding?
The Liberals should adopt as their motto the words of George Bernard Shaw, who said that: “A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.”
And the NDP (“I’d rather be called a socialist than a demogratic socialist” –Jack Layton) could use Shaw’s help too, were they to note that as Shaw said: “Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.”
Craig Oliver was talking about him today on Duffy. There are speeches galore of this effete ineffectual intellectual introducing himself as a proud American, or one of them, blah blah. It’ll come back and bite him in the ass. There were complaints like this last time with Ken Dryden and a few here in BC, including useless Ujjal. But guess what? In the end, the brain-dead marked their ballots the way all automatons do.
CBC is airing a segment on the “trust” issue. It’s hilarious how they’re talking as much as possible speaking in abstract terms: apparantly its a mistrust in “not keeping promises” in general. Course they don’t point out the obvious that, as the only party in power for twelve years, the “not keeping promises” thing can only be attributed to the Liberals.
Look for the “they’re all the same” meme to continue.
Moral equivalents always favor the worst offenders. Right now its the Liberal’s best friend. And right now (and until the election) that’ll be the underlying theme of the CBC on the issue of “trust.”
How did the Libs convince Ms. Augustine to step aside?
Linda, I’m betting she’s headed to the Senate or some plum job. The Libs never go out without a flurry of spending and patronage appointments. Maybe Ambassador to Grenada or somewhere in the Islands. Wherever she wants to go. Maybe they’ll hedge their bets in case the Professor is given a Trudeau salute by the electorate as a protest. Methinks they’ll flock to the NDP, though.
Announced on the ‘tube tonight: Ignatieff takes the riding by acclamation. (Guess the 40-odd riding members who have already announced they will not support him, don’t count.)
Personally- I would just stuff the ballot boxes, ‘lose’ some blocks of votes, ‘reject’ some ballots, etc. (it’s the ‘Canadian way’).
More on Ignatieff
If you want to read more on Michael Ignatieff, read these fellow Blogging Tories:
1. At Small Dead Animals
2. At Rempelia Prime start here, then go here and finish here.
3. Or go here.
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What a typical liberal joke!
The guy hasn’t been seen in Canada for almost 25 years and they parachute him right into some safe liberal seat.
(mind you, after more than a decade of the liberals bald-faced lies,thieving,kickbacks,scams,corruption,waste,utter stupidity and screw-ups,it’s probably no longer a safe seat)
The only things he could possibly remember about Canada after all these years is what he’s read in newspapers and magazines.
Mr.Michael IgKnow-it-all is so fresh ‘in country’ he’s still changing his American money at the CIBC bank!
If a Conservative had written the book and said the same stuff about Ukraininans, regardless of the context of which the pompous old professor speaks, said Conservative wouldn’t get to run for the Conservatives as the whole damn MSM would be headlining his/her alleged “racism” or “intolerance” or whatever. The Liberals would be mentioning it every opportunity, saying, “… one more example of Conservative intolerance…”
Well, the tables have turned. It’s an opportunity to do to them what they’ve always done to us. Let’s go after this ivory tower elitist “Liberal” relentlessly and tie him into the whole Liberal Party. They’re going to do it to us, without a doubt. Time to fire back and win back the country!
…”The guy hasn’t been seen in Canada for almost 25 years”…
Just another example of some of the problems with dual-citizenship. Anyone with a Canadian passport can call themselves a Canadian even if they’ve contributed zip to the Canadian economy. Expect to see lots more of this watered-down version of what it means to be a ‘true’ Canadian in the future.
Ah, this must be the much awaited “democratic renewal”.
Pro-war. Pro-torture. I’d say he picked the wrong party to run for.
Jean Augustine>>>> DUMPED DUMPED DUMPED
To be Replaced by Mikhail Ignatieff, aka Dr. Michael Ignatieff.
Welcome to the Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ World , Jean.
Memo to Jean from Prime Minister Martin:
Jean, donna worry: You and Alfonso are stilla members of da Privy Council; but, sit in the back of the bus/privy, please. Thanks,my dear. Let’s keep in touch. Signed, Paul AdScam Martin.
Jean’s letter to her former constituents as shown on hers website>>>>>>
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This website is part of my efforts to communicate with you, the residents of Etobicoke-Lakeshore, as your Member of Parliament. This is supported by the regular reports you receive from me by regular mail informing you about what is happening in our local community and in Ottawa — and about how your local Etobicoke-Lakeshore constituency office can assist you. More importantly, this website allows me to provide you current and detailed information much quicker than printed material.
As always, I welcome your input and encourage you to contact me with your comments, questions, or suggestions.
Let’s keep in touch.
Sincerely,
[Jean]
Hon. Jean Augustine
Etobicoke-Lakeshore
http://www.jeanaugustine.com/
DUMPED DUMPED DUMPED DUMPED DUMPED
Member Privy Council :
The Honourable
Jean Augustine May 26, 2002
The Honourable
Alfonso Gagliano September 15, 1994
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Typical Lie-beral!
Incredible irony is that the riding association secretary travelled to Ukraine (on her own dollar) as an election observer during the Orange Revolution.
A year later she experiences political machinations right here at home, courtesy the Canadian government that presumed to teach Ukrainians about democracy.
Maybe we should demand the government bring over election observers from Ukraine. Maybe conservatives should start wearing orange?
Farck off, Jay!
Showing people scary cartoons is torture to people like you, so long as the Americans are doing it.
You’re not welcome here!
Michael Ignatieff is a racist pure and simple. This man should be deported back to his mother Russia and never allowed back. After the centuries of killing Ukrainians experienced, they don’t need this type of crap/idiotic talk as promoted by Ignatieff. Also, Ignatieff’s ancestors promoted hatred/pogroms of Jews. No wonder he is a riffraff racist as well.
I will NEVER support Ignattief because of his support for the Iraq war. He is running in my riding and I would never support him or his boss, Stephen Harper.
Sorry, I paused for a few minutes while writing this and just learned that Ignattief is running for the Liberal party.
I change my mind. He’s a good man.
Yours truly,
Ontario voter.
Did Harper actually support the war in Iraq or was his position that of supporting an ally ? Personally I think there’s a huge difference. While I think the former can be argued successfully even to the most obstinate the latter is likely the more palatable to the average voter.
Regards,
potato
A count for the Commons
Michael Ignatieff should have realized his riding is populated by the ‘little’ people he apparently disdains
Lubomyr Luciuk
Citizen Special
Wednesday, November 30, 2005
CREDIT: Chris Mikula, The Ottawa Citizen
Fighting Words: Liberal federal election candidate Michael Ignatieff’s comments about Ukrainians showed disdain for them, writes Lubomyr Luciuk. Dan Gardner, below, writes that the comments were taken out of context.
Liberal candidate Michael Ignatieff thought people like my parents were “strange and pathetic” because, in the 1960s, they would gather in protest, even in the snow, “haranguing people” who just wanted to see the Bolshoi ballet, and “to hell with the politics.”
He wondered how they thought Ukraine could ever be free. Hadn’t these folks bothered to check a map? Didn’t they know Ukraine had “been part of Russia for centuries?” And why wouldn’t they accept that, “obviously,” Kyiv was the “birthplace of Russian national identity?”
When, “unbelievably,” that city became the capital of a “new” and independent state, he confessed to having “difficulty in taking Ukraine seriously” because, as a “Great Russian” he held “just a trace of old Russian disdain for these ‘little Russians’,” meaning Ukrainians. The thought of their independence conjured up only “images of embroidered peasant shirts, the nasal whine of ethnic instruments, phoney Cossacks in cloaks and boots, nasty anti-Semites.”
I confess that I have an embroidered Ukrainian shirt, several in fact, which my mother hand-made for me, and which I am proud to wear. I share other kindred, albeit more intellectual, prejudices with Mr. Ignatieff, who probably thinks he is my “elder brother.” So I get a laugh when reading about those puffed up White Russian emigres — with their pro-fascist sentiments and stunted ideas about the rights of other nations to self-determination — who fittingly ended up as so many Grand-Duke-Such-and-Such taxi cab drivers in Paris, or Princess-This-and-Thats serving tables in Harbin dancing halls. They were the flotsam of the failed Tsarist regime, pretenders and pogromchiks, most of them shovelled into the dustbin of history during the interwar period.
One of their own (and yes he was a count, what else), Vladimir Kokovtsov, described his fellow exiles in 1930 as an admixture of “nostalgia, fatalism, balalaikas, lugubrious songs of the Volga, a crimson shirt [and] frenzied dance.”
Of course, some took longer to accept their fates than others. The counts Ignatieff, for example, reportedly held forth in Toronto libraries in the mid-1930s, blustering on about Russia Yesterday, Russia Today.
How strange. How could they dare dream of “their One, Holy and Indivisible Russia” ever being restored? Did they not have maps? Did they not realize that their feeble tsar and his mendacious ministers, and the Imperial Russia they all pined for, were irrevocably lost, replaced by what the Man of Steel, Stalin, and his Bolshevik minions were manufacturing?
Happily, the commissars have gone where the counts went earlier, even if a few self-styled “Great Russians” still wander about. Perhaps I should show a little Canadian empathy. After all, once you’ve been a commissar, or a count, it is hard to become a commoner.
But there’s the rub. Mr. Ignatieff wants to play a role on the floor of the House of Commons. He says he is a Liberal, one of our indigenous brand of Reds. He regards them, and they like to boast of it too, as the only legitimate governing party of Canada, rather like those other party members used to claim in Mother Russia, after they chucked out their Dukes and Dames, those they didn’t butcher.
So we have a self-styled governing party divvying up this land and assigning the peripatetic descendant of some kicked-out grandees an estate he wants to call his own, known to locals as Toronto’s Etobicoke-Lakeshore riding.
This intellectual star-tsar, deeded this Canadian peat, has discovered, however, that it is peopled with “Little Russians.” Back in “the good old days,” when other Ignatieffs held carriage of some captive turf just south of Kyiv, populated with peasants in embroidered shirts, that finding would have been of little consequence. At least until 1917, most serfs were quiescent. But when they got mad a lot of counts took road trips. Some even came to Canada.
It may happen again. For the common folks in this country, sometimes also known as voters, aren’t happy. They don’t like being lorded over. They even had the temerity to think that, in a democracy, they had a right to choose one of their own to represent them.
In fact, the good people of Etobicoke-Lakeshore had two guys in mind for that job. I know both men. They have embroidered Ukrainian shirts and occasionally do “play” at being Cossacks, since we all prefer that role to pretending to be the Count-of-Somewhere-Else that hasn’t existed for nearly a century.
And we checked the map. Ukraine has regained its place in Europe, something we’ll wager tsarist Russia never will. That happened, in part, because “strange and pathetic” people, like our parents, stood in the snow and called for the freedom of the captive nations instead of going inside to get warm and gawk at ballerinas.
They wanted nothing to do with those who called them Little, or Russians, nor would they ever vote for anyone who thinks they once were, are now, or ever will be.
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Lubomyr Luciuk is director of research for the Ukrainian Canadian Civil Liberties Association and professor of political geography at The Royal Military College of Canada.
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