I can’t download this, so am trusting London Fog that it’ s as advertised;
GOPinion “has obtained an exclusive unreleased recording of a conversation between British Columbia MP Gurmant Grewal and the Canadian Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff Tim Murphy. We cannot yet confirm the authenticity of this tape.
It’s 8.2 megs.
This Canadian joins with Gilles Duceppe, M.P., Bloc Quebecois, in asking the RCMP to investigate this conversation between PM Martin’s Chief of Staff, Tim Murphy, and the Member of Parliament, Mr. Grewal.
Are there grounds for criminal charges to be brought against Tim Murphy? Against Prime Minister Paul Martin?
Have high crimes and misdemeanours been committed by Tim Murphy and Prime Minister Paul Martin?
Recall Parliament immediately to consider these questions.
Where is the RCMP?
Where is Parliament?
We await answers.
You guys are worse than the phoney WMD crackpots..which war did you want to send us to this time?
You’re fighting the wrong battle. The SYSTEM is CORRUPTABLE.
Hasn’t anyone ever heard of or seen yes minister, or yes prime minister? I highly recommend it, it might loosen those sphincter muscles a bit when you realize the futility of your whining.
Convinced now: mockpuppet is Red-Green; escaped from the Watch Tower!
How to recognize it?
It mis-spells corruptible; R-G always mis-spelled corruptible. It is Red-Green; super troll, from the looney, moonbat left. Bring out the Raid.
Convinced.. that’s your problem. You are too easily convinced. There’s a proven direct corellation – people with better critical thinking capabilities and training and left thinking/voting people. It’s a FACT I’m convinced.
I don’t know who Red Green is (other than from the tv show, that I don’t watch)
Your Logic:
Because it misspells a word the same way as X does it must be X.
Some cats are black
All ants are black
Some cats are ants
I don’t know the footballs site either, I do know about dailykos.com – it’s a great system. I recommend you take your logic for a test drive there.
Maybe some people just can’t spell corruptable! Maybe I’m another victim of the education system gutted by the conservative party. Thankfully Layton’s bill passed, and education is on the rise again. And thanks for the correction, I’ll use corruptible from now on, even though ‘able’ makes more sense to me.
besides..anyone who complains about spelling on a blog must be looney themselves
The 8.2M version is a few lines longer than the transcript in the Globe (Thanks to AC for the link.) Listening adds a lot of inflection which is missed by the transcript, and the end (including some lines missing from the Globe transcript) emphasizes once again that Grewal is not the one who initiated the matter.
It is clear that Murphy is making a proposal to Grewal regarding absaining on C-43 and C-48 and on eight or so additional votes through the end of the session which could topple Martin’s government. Murphy makes it very clear that Grewal did not approach the government on this topic.
If this were a democratic country, journalists would be relentless in demanding from Murphy and from Dosanjh the names of any third parties involved, and what their relationship is with those third parties (that is, did anyone associated with the Liberal government invite any third parties to initiate discussions). And they might even learn to use a tape recorder themselves.
Commenters at andrewcoyne.com are yelling for charges to be brought against Murphy, Martin, & etc.
What say you?
Andrew Coyne is the only columnist/reporter I know of, who has written about how serious this really is. This is criminal activity on behalf of the PMO and nothing is being done about it. In fact most of the media is focusing oh who contacted whom, which as I stated on another blog is completely irrelevant. Even if Grewal initiated contact on this, while it doesn’t do him any credit, its Tim Murphy, the PMs chief of staff, who is making an offer and in so doing, is committing a crime. To see the offense against the criminal code check out AC blog, its somewhere in his comments.
This should be a huge scandal and most of the press is ignoring it. Hail Andrew Coyne.
I don’t believe that any crime short perhaps of being caught on tape having sex with minors under the age of 14 while smoking crack and murdering people could cause serious problems for a Liberal in this country. Yes, that’s how far we’ve moved from being a country under the rule of law.
They’ve wasted billions (that we know of), stolen hundreds of millions, used crown agencies to provide “jobs for da boys”, associated with what appears to be organized crime, lied to foreign governments to pursue vendettas against political enemies, appear to have used crown agencies, departments, and the RCMP to pursue more vendettas, phoned judges and nominally independent heads of crown corporations, appointed ill-qualified cronies to high office, hurled racist smears about with gay abandon, tossed crude anti-Semitic cracks, and lied, lied, lied. And all the above have been done by ministers of the crown, not obscure backbenchers! And these are just the things we know about!
How quaint the Mulroney years seem. Defence Minister visits a strip club, quel horreur, and resigns. Masse doesn�t violate the elections act but appearances matter and he resigns. Fraser makes a judgment call on some tuna. (how novel, a minister resigns because of poor judgment related directly to his job, and the minister actually takes the fall. Amazing.) Sinclair Stevens has apparent conflict of interest related to a $2.6m loan, as did Cote. They resign. Roch Lasalle is charged, resigns, charges dropped. Valcourt gets a DUI and resigns, Charest phones a judge and resigns, Redway makes a bad joke and offers to resign. And Gravel (not a minister) is guilty of influence peddling. He pleads guilty and goes to jail.
The difference is striking: the media actually cares and cared about Conservative wrong-doing (even trumped up, and the media viewed itself as a hard-core official opposition, trying hard to take down the government of the day), the Prime Minister does as well, and demands (and gets) resignations.
The media got so serious about attacking the Conservative government that a journalist would lie, and act as a secret source for the RCMP so that she could then report on investigations she herself had helped instigate as a secret source! Amazing. (Don’t suppose that’s a Liberal journalist?)
Today, where are such “brave” journalists?
In the case of the Liberals? The media doesn�t really care. They’re the lapdog of the ruling party.
Morally, linguistically, and intellectually challenged types such as mock puppet suggest we adopt an air of world-weary cynicism; just accept that corruption is all well and good and part of life. Mark Steyn, in “Everybody does it” has some interesting things to say about that approach.
To actually express concern about crime, theft, and corruption is to be viewed as whining. Good grief. With moral and legal arbiters such as this, we can understand a great deal about the present state of our nation.
“Yes, Minister” was a great show. That doesn’t mean we should aspire to live that way. Even if we did, the show didn’t have the level of decadent corruption, the bottomless contempt for taxpayers, the regular breaking of the law that we are asked to see as the Liberals’ divine right.
Holmwood
And returning to Mike P’s point (just had to respond to the bizarre approach of mockpuppet, troll though he may be), yes, Coyne’s doing a reasonably good job. One can hope the media will go after this, but I suspect it’ll be just one more thing the Liberals get away with.
Holmwood
I salute you Holmwood. Excellent commentary.
Newsbeat1 !!!!!!!!!
Layton backs Duceppe’s call for investigation.
This Canadian joins with Duceppe and Layton in calling for an investigation.
Now there are 3 Canadians joining in asking for this.
What say you? Will you join us?
Did Murphy, Martin’s Chief of Staff, commit a crime/crimes?
Did Paul Martin, Prime Minister of Canada, commit a crime/crimes?
What say you?
We await answers.
It’s just one more crime in a long long list of them. Hear no evil, see no evil, move along folks there’s nothing to see here.
Speaking of whores wheres Monica Lewinsky when we need her.
Im thinking we just need a little more cleavage in ottawa and we could bring down our P.M.
AC being sued…dont newspapers have some kind of liabilty insurance…Im thinking just a scare tactic to cause him to back off, sorta of like shots across the bow, try to make AC look like a nut case and discredit him.
We need another lawn sign photo with Belinda and Monica side by side…..Kate where are you?….
OT A rookie conservative mp apologized for a racial epithet, this of course makes the news trying to brand cons as haters.
He said something to the effect that the japs were bastards in world war two.Well the japs were bastards in world war two, just ask the (chinks) oops.
Political correctness, what a wonderful thing.
I personally would not have apologized.
The only apology I want to here is from the Liberal Guvment and I aint holding my breath.