I Want A New Country

Cold Dead Hands Western Separatism You Might Be A Liberal 201 Comments

Your open thread on the just announced Trudeau gun grab and instant criminalization of thousands of law abiding Canadians by Order in Council.

(Unless you’re First Nations and use these “military firearms which are only designed to kill people” to hunt, in which case — carry on.)

Keep the language clean.

201 Replies to “I Want A New Country”

        1. “The Regulations also prescribe the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15 and M4 pattern firearms to be prohibited devices.”

      2. It will likely come down to the confiscators having to make the choice of going home to their families that night or enforcing a useless law.

        How sad.

        Can’t fix stupid, but it can apparently be voted in to run a country….

        1. It is not a choice they will think twice about. They will kick in your door, kill your dog, ransack your house and take your property. They will be completely at peace about it. If you resits they will kill you. They may kick the shit out of you just for fun. Karens will cheer. MSM will write endless articles explaining how killing you made Canada safer. Lobotomized electorate will shrug and change the channel.

          1. What kind of man executes these kind of orders from a Karen. You mull that over for a while boys…

          2. Bdsm, the same kind of “man” who will ticket an old man for walking his dog, or a mother for playing with her child. The police are no longer what you think they are.

          4. It will be a long time before they come for me Colonialista, they have a big list to get through first. And on that list will be a few who will go willingly, some will attempt to fight legally, and those who will see no problem taking a few with them.

            I am well aware of what they are capable of, have been following their antics on many levels for decades.

            When they finally get around to me, I’ll be long gone….;)

  2. Repost from reader tips: Does anyone else find that the timing of the Liberal gun ban on 1 May, also known as International Workers Day celebrated by socialists and communists, to be very concerning? The amount of outright lies being spewed by the P.M. and his Minister of Public Safety during this morning’s press brief is sickening.

    Molon Labe

    1. Symbolism is everything to a marxist, so yeah, today’s announcement was not coincidence.

      There’s more coming, much more. Stock up on everything, absolutely everything, the green new deal is coming in the next 6 months and your life will never be the same.

    2. Trudeau’s dictatorial aspirations have come to fruition. I think he would love to be Xi Jinping.

    2. I identify as a dual US/Canadian citizen. It is so past time to leave this diseased and daecayed country for the US. The sheeple of Canada will never do anything except kneel or bend over and bleat yes oh great Justin.

        1. I’m reminded of the final scene from the terrific movie The Professionals.

          Ralph Bellamy’s character calls Lee Marvin’s a bastard. The response is:

          “Yes, sir. In my case, an accident of birth. But you, sir, you’re a self-made man.”

  5. Go ahead, please somebody from the left, tell us how you’re not fascist?

    Tell us how safe you will now feel?

    What is the next feel-good step in your world of taking rights and privileges away from law abiding citizens of Canada?

    1. Unless you are prepared to stand up and fight, bend over and take just as we always have. I have always said that if I stand to fight I will be standing alone.

      2. You are not alone. I promise and guarantee a bloodbath if and when they come.

    2. They don’t care how you feel about it. In their pathologically nanny state minds, they rationalize having the state either making you a criminal or stealing your property by gutless statist transference of the piety that “no one needs to own those kinds of firearms”. They also rationalize their attitude in “allowing” you to own a basic shotgun or bolt action rifle so that you can continue to kill defenseless wildlife as the neanderthal that you are. That attitude exemplifies most urban Canadians. Thinking only of the LPC, Greens, and NDP, it’s probably good Canadian politics.

  6. Ruger mini 14 is included according to young Fidel they have no use other than to kill people I wonder why that rifle is also known as a ranch rifle model?

    1. The “ranch rifle” is the basic model with 18.5″ barrel. The other models have shorter/longer barrels and are equipped differently.. there is also a ruger mini 30 that is chambered for sks/ak rounds (7.62×39)..

    2. It was said that when seconds count the police are minutes away.
      The RCMP just proved how wrong that is: When seconds count the police are HOURS away.

      And Trudeau’s response is to ban weapons like the Ruger Mini 14 Ranch that in the hands of rural Canadians could have ended this Nova Scotia fiasco a lot sooner with fewer deaths. No doubt with the encouragement of the RCMP… the same entity that really seems to have screwed up by taking twelve hours to bring the killing and arson spree to an end, while not using the emergency response system to alert the area’s potential victims.

      Yet American citizens in the area were alerted! Which confirms that it could have been done.

      1. You’re damn right I was, it was a sign, I think, time to head to the land of the free. Socialized medicine already killed my wife, my bad for staying.

        1. About that socialized medicine… I don’t know who said this first, by my father is the first person I heard it from many years ago, while he was talking to friends in the USA:

          “If you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it’s free”.

    1. He was always planning on doing that. Recent events presented him the opportunity to do so under the thin veneer of necessity.

  9. Remember: Never never let a crisis go to waste. This could and should of been predicted and anticipated. All governments want more power and money no matter who is in power and they will go to any lengths to get it. Even during a pandemic. But remember we voted for this and we are getting it good and hard.

  10. I feel like the Liberals are doing a jig on the graves of the Nova Scotia victims. Never let a crisis go to waste indeed.

  11. One of the standard steps of tyrants – confiscate the weapons. Remember what happened in Venezuela during the regime of Hugo Chaves and where the citizenry are now.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    This is only the first step and unless we yell loud and long about abuse of power, we will revisit a Niemoller.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    4. You’re a demagogue, if conservatives were in power there would be no ban. Libranos and their maxbot puppets brought this atrocity.

        1. No it was not. It was brought in by the Chretien government and last time I looked, he is a liberal.

          1. Yup. Harper repealed it and destroyed the registry all the K-bec fascists fought in court to keep theirs. Of course they won.

          2. Bill C17 was passed in 1991, Mulroney was PM. Google is your friend. Look it up.

        2. So what? How does change anything? You know very well that Libranos campaigned on the current ban and Conservatives campaigned against it. Conservatives also campaigned for removing previous regulations implemented by Libranos before the election. Conservatives were the best bet for us to keep our guns. You don’t have to idolize them to recognize that simple truth. End of story.

          Now just wait for Blackie to allow cities to regulate handguns.

        3. I was talking about Bill C 68. C 17 was a bill drafted by Kim Campbell that perhaps led the way to the gun registry. During her brief tenure as PM she moved things along but it was Chretien and the lovely and charming Alan Rock that pushed it through. Then there is the whole aspect of all these millions to be spent on this new cabinet order. The Chretien gun registry went WAY over budget and accomplished little. Expect more of the same.

    5. WZ, no bet. Apparently they intend to “grandfather” some of the rifles to be banned,but the article I read,(and I can’t remember where or I’d link to it,) said the grandfathered banned guns could not be taken out of the owner’s house. So I guess they will allow you to keep them as a museum piece.
      This is more Liberal strategy to NOT have to buy out million of dollars worth of guns, but G/F them knowing the government will eventually get their hands on them, for no compensation whatsoever.

      I think we all knew this would happen,they just needed an incident that outraged the public. According to the latest Angus Reid poll,over 70% of those polled were in favor of a ban on all assault-style rifles. They will soon include all semi-automatic rifles,including .22’s, on their way to a ” gun free” society the dream of every utopian.

  13. This highlights the importance of the work of Cody Wilson and the others at Defense Distributed.

    1. I have been screaming that for decades. Is everyone else that far behind the curve?

  16. We know this has Zero to do with public safety.
    And it isn’t just about gun rights, but all property rights.
    Every single person that is for gun control is your enemy even if you don’t own any.
    The eco-fascists can’t wait to take your boat, your quad, your classic car, your house that’s too big even your gas lawn mower ffs.
    Remember, 85% of Chinadians polled said it was okay to snitch on people not practicing social distancing.

  17. This list has been sitting around waiting for an opportunity for several years. My guess is they have had the list since before they got elected.

    Conservatives will not be able to fix this if elected since they will already be destroyed. Any attempts to roll back the legislation by conservatives will not be taken seriously as they will only be temporary measures until the next batch of Libranos. It was a big mistake not to declare the Liberal Party a criminal organization after Adscam.

    #WEXIT.

    1. And if Conservatives (should they ever win government again someday) try to repeal this OIC they’ll be accused of importing American style gun culture into Canada. Book it.

      Stephen Harper turned tail and ran when he got his majority. He should’ve nuked the CBC on day #1 of that mandate and it would’ve been dead by now. Along with lots of other Liberal party infrastructure in the civil service that he & his government should’ve been burning to the ground. He got the long gun registry and he got the Wheat Board. He left all the rest. Look what that got him. And us.

      So Trudeau has it all now. Perhaps a fitting legacy for Harper, to be succeeded by a Trudeau, a living embodiment of the kind of Canada that Harper supposedly spent his life fighting against.

    2. #WEXIT is the only solution.
      Conservatives and Libranos trade tit for tat and continue their game….
      It’s time to change the game board entirely and remake the rules.

      An armed individual is a citizen, an unarmed individual is a subject.
      Gun control is not about controlling guns, it’s about controlling those who use the guns.
      ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
      Molon Labe!

  18. Son of a gun…descendant of a murderer.
    Justin Trudeau has survivor’s guilt for what his ancestor, Etienne Truteau, did in 1662:
    “He is best  known for fighting for the colony as a militia man, in particular a battle with the Iroquois in 1662 during the establishment of the colony. In 1663, he enlisted in the 6th squadron of the Militia de la Sanite-Famille, that was headed by Governor Paul Chomedey de Maisoneuve”…
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etienne_Truteau

  20. Liberal fascist logic. Great Leader Kim Sung Trudeau says you don’t need an assault weapon to hunt deer, but its ok for indians to hunt deer with an assault weapon.

    1. Maybe he figures the Indians need those weapons to defend themselves against pipelines.

  21. Is this even legal?

    If it is so, why is it necessary to have a parliament.

    He can apparently make rules of his own choosing and there is nobody in this country to stop it.
    “Conservatives” you say?
    Good bloody luck.

    A dictator by any other means.
    Canadians are cool with that.

    1. His abolition of Parliament was, in effect, a coup d’etat.

  22. I am really hoping this convinces the fence sitters and sentimentalists the importance of Alberta and Saskatchewan separating while we still can.

    Until we are able to separate, I would like to see Kenney start doing whatever is possible to remove any federal institutions from this province, starting with the RCMP. Not likely I understand, but every time they phone for a donation, please use the time to calmly and politely explain why you won’t be donating to the UCP until they start implementing the fire wall etc.

    Also, we need to find a decent and credible leader for an Alberta separation party. Brian Jean?

    1. Kenney has zero sincere interest in firewalling Alberta. None. He wants that power for himself and in his delusions sees himself wielding it. Also I hate to say it but guns are one of the worst issues separatists could lead with. It should be there, but that’s not how you’re going to sell it.

      “Also, we need to find a decent and credible leader for an Alberta separation party. Brian Jean?”

      Got it in one. Replacing him with Kenney is a mistake that Albertan conservatives deserve suffering for.

      1. You have never lived in Kaybec. Big gun culture, even in the cities. PET was not liked by the Frenchies, my friend and P’tit Patate is not one to emulate. You think Alberta is home to cowboy culture? There’s one in Kaybec, just as big. Armed to the teeth, too.

        1. I am aware that rural Quebec is truly unique. Thing is, the future is cosmopolitan and gun rights advocates need to start acting like it.

          “PET was not liked by the Frenchies”

          They voted for him en masse.

          2. Perhaps two laws are needed then. One for city dwellers and one for rural people. Many things restricted in cities make so sense in rural areas.

  23. Are Canadians sufficiently cowed by their liberal betters or will they finally rise up and admit that sometimes there are things worse than dying. Alberta Independence is looking better all the time. We must get rid of Kenney for this to happen.

  24. I wonder if Kenny can use the non withstanding clause and instruction all police forces in Alberta to ignore this afront to lawfull citizens.

    1. Well first of all Kenney would have actually care about Alberta and Albertan’s freedoms. I can not find any evidence of that.

  26. Our current premiers, cabinet must do their best to prep for autonomy.

    We need institutions of autonomy.

    Credible autonomy party may be helpful, not sure, yet.

    Getting rid of Kenney right now makes no sense. We need preparation, need to focus. Not more chaos & division, we have quiite enough of that already.

    I’ve wondered about not withstanding clause also.

    1. Kenny has a corrupt, commie horde of Sibble Serpents and their commie unions to deal with. Especially in the Alberta Health Services. I met one of those last year. Didn’t hide their thinking on folks over 65 using the HC system after paying their freight for 30 odd years. The younger crop of home growns did not take the Hippocratic oath, that I’m sure of. Notley is waging literal warfare behind the scenes to keep the cash flowing to her band of kleptocrats. Separation won’t solve that problem. The media run cover. You’d be surprised at the numbers of outright commies who think like Chinah in this province. Nasty ones.

      1. PO’d in AB,

        I agree…
        no disagreement at all wrt the massive, organized opposition to anyone who leans towards smaller gov & bigger citizens.

        Kate’s posting of Professor Stephen Kotkin video was extremely timely, yet next to no one watched it. Its germaine, its vital & its ignored.

        Watch Frank Vaughan, he reflects my mood, exactly.

        https://t.co/FhGrsDtH92?amp=1

        We need to build up our local, democratic institutions. Now.

        I’ve always liked this:
        If not now, when?
        If not me, who?
        If not this, what?

        Now, I’m going to have a beer on my deck & enjoy the spring sun. Tomorrow is another day.

        Cheers

    2. “Getting rid of Kenney right now makes no sense. ”

      It makes sense. He has no inclination to take sensible and easy steps to firewall Alberta ex exiting the CPP. Kenney’s push for making a North American oil cartel was vastly more dangerous than any carbon tax.

  27. Wexit is the only way out of this mess. Trudeau will get elected again – media bought. Dole loving maritimers and corrupt elite in Quebec and low information 905 ers will ensure that. Plus a Lib lite CPC wont do a damn thing about any of it.

    I’m not a gun owner, but I can sure as hell see where this is going.

    1. “…and low information 905ers….”
      Not so….Low information 416ers is more likely.

  28. So what happens if a premiere invokes the notwithstanding clause on this issue? Better yet, what if more than on premiere invokes the notwithstanding clause on this issue?

    1. They need to be invoking the notwithstanding clause on everything from jaywalking to thermonuclear war.
      Use it for everything every chance they get to gut the federal powers.

      After all, we are the first post national state…

    2. I’m not a legal scholar but I think there’s only certain sections of the Charter where one could invoke the notwithstanding clause.
      And if memory serves Alberta tried this already with the Firearms Act which was soundly smacked down by the SCOC.
      Y’know…”public safety” and other worn out tropes Liberal judges like to trot out when they want to justify their overreach.
      Maybe others could weigh in.
      In the meantime, firearm owners have to endure this slow death by a thousand cuts.

  29. I’m interested in how much provincial autonomy we can develop, acquire, assert. As fast as possible.

    Also develop allies with other similar jurisdictions. Sask is obvious I think but may be there are others.

    Not withstanding clause is a tool.
    Break glass in case of fire.

      1. I hear ya, not disagreeing.

        I believe autonomy measures need identification & moves towards their assertion beginning now.

        And not withstanding clause at the ready.

  31. So why is the sock monkey surrounded by armed and not disarmed security?
    Why do they need assault weapons if they claim nobody else does?

  32. Apparently they have to send notices to every firearms owner by registered mail about this and an appeal to your local provincial court can be filed for every firearm you own. If that’s the case it’s time to plug up the courts forever.

    2. James, As I understand it, there is no judicial recourse for an order in council. I’m thinking my AR will have a funeral just before I do. Also, don’t hold your breath for a conservative reprieve! Did anyone notice the final date of the amnesty will be before the next “Scheduled” election. One tiny chance is if we get the Lib/liars out early with a vote of no confidence in parliament, for a minority government. Don’t hold your breath on that either! I sure as Sh&t don;t have any confidence in the Turd and his crew, but I/we don’t count anyway. We are truly screwed. I just hope his base is pissed cuz he didn’t following through with actual confiscation

      1. Peking Buoy will have a fight right in his home province on firearms. Big gun culture, lotta hunters. They’ll hide them. What’s he gonna do, have the SQ kick in doors like High River? Bring it on, Peking Buoy.

  33. According to my friend who owns an AR15, there is also no compensation. So we have seizure of property without compensation by order in council. Just great. We are well down the slope to a totalitarian dictatorship.

    1. Because that involves money, which involves a vote in parliament. Can’t let a little thing like democracy get in the way.

      1. After just a brief read of the order it looks like this is why he’s just “idling” these guns for now. They can’t be bought or sold or used. Safely stored until they figure out how they’re going to institute a buy-back program which will have to be voted on in parliament. Given the current make-up of parliament and canada, I can’t envision them having a problem passing this. 2 year amnesty until April 30, 2022, then you comply or become a criminal.

        AR15, M14, mini14, 50BMG, and several other “scary” type guns. Looks like I get to keep my double barrel goose gun…for now.

        We get what “they” vote for.

          1. Mine were all gifted to my treaty card holding relatives two days ago.

          3. STFU with boating accidents. You’re not allowed to take restricted firearms boating. You do that and you lose your RPAL. Stop giving people misleading advice.

          4. Fuck everybody.
            Sell them to Islamists.
            Report lost.
            Buy a black market weapon.
            Make popcorn.

    2. That is correct, Libranos are promising “just compensation” eventually when they get to it, in the meantime they will rob you off your property in order to placate their soccer mom and their imported electorates.

      1. BS. They blew a wad on Corona Virus Beer, ’cause Mommy Kaneduh has yur bak. Canadians are stupid, no matter which Area Code. They haven’t printed up the Corona Bucks yet. That’s a load too.

  34. “Young fella, you go out in them woods and just dig anyplace, anyplace at all, and you’ll find yourself diggin’ up a gun. Probably some ammo with it too. Don’t take much to keep ’em from rustin’. They’re just sittin’ there waitin’ for when they’re needed”.

  35. Curious that they went to the “list” approach, then included pages of missile launchers and assorted mortars on it. TOW and Milan missile launchers, and a host of soviet designs are now all prohibited fire arms in Canada, as are the 120mm mortars of a select group of countries. But apparently a Blowpipe missile launcher, or a 120mm mortar made by any of a host of other countries would be just fine! Just to be clear, it is unlikely, bordering on impossible, that any of these exist in private hands, those that did would be museum artifacts; The dangerous bits are their ammunition, which The Explosives Act already effectively bans.

    Likewise the list of newly banned “black guns”: great lists of variants for some; others (including some fairly common ones) are not on the list at all. More confusion to come, I am sure.

    Can anyone tell us how this dovetails into current law? Are the holders of 12(6) PAL endorsements still able to own and buy and sell?

    Might be worth recalling that the potential for regulatory abuse in Alan Rock’s Bill C-68 was raised at the time, and the government of the day promised that it would be used for fine tuning of detail, and that any substantive changes to the firearms control regime would, of course, be effected only after public debate and by Parliament. And they wonder why no one trusts or respects them.

  36. Oh dear me. Justin is a couple of months away from being removed by his own men in uniform because Ottawa has run out of hard cash to pay them with. And this is how he plans to save himself from being overthrown? This doesn’t even make sense as a way to stop a coup before it starts.

    The stupidity he got from his mother is matched only by the arrogance he got from his father.

    If he’s serious about stopping white men from violently snapping, he can start by giving up on destroying their livelihoods and letting them go back to work.

    Gabriel Wortman is the first Canadian to protest against the lockdowns in language even a Liberal can understand. He won’t be the last.

  37. What a bizarre world we live in.
    Blackie hates and is afraid of white men, especially English speakers. He has stated as much.
    And all of his attacks on white men have succeeded.
    Identify, Demonize, Disempower, Destroy.
    This one will as well.
    There will be millions of women cheering this because they hate and fear white men and the society they have built.
    If I lived to be a thousand years old I could never express the level of contempt I have for men who voted for this sociopathic pseudo-rapist weirdo fuck.

    1. Well said, they will cheer and will clap their hands like the trained seals in UK. Pathetic, worthless subhumans.

    1. White people don’t get to get away with protesting conservative causes.

        1. Right, and they don’t even have to be Indian, they just need to identify as such.

  39. “I want a new country”. We are getting one and it has been happening for 50+ years. WE have had no property rights since PET brought home the constitution . We sat idly by while we were told what languages signs had to be in and what had to be printed on your cereal boxes. There is not a political party sitting in the house of commons that is going to help you. They aren’t here to just take your guns. If you were hard working and prudent they are going to take your money. They Liberals will be elected again. All they have to do is promise to keep filling the trough. If we could convince enough people to join our Provincial Parties it may be possible to install a leader who will fight for a new country under much better terms. Unlikley but possible. Any new parties would probably insure the current path for 15 year after which they will have total control. The other option is they may create enough pestilence in the West before they get the firearms confiscated that they loose control. It’s ugly and will probably get much worse.

    1. There’s a better country to your South.

      Your human rights are being violated. Seek asylum to the South in the USA.

      Leave. Contribute nothing to the Leviathan. Let Canada either and die.

  40. Anyone who owns such firearms should consider doing the right thing by putting them in a PVC pipe after greasing, sealing the ends and burying until whenever. With zero compliance (100% civil disobedience) the government should start to worry about the efficacy of such legislation.

    1. Indeed. Then, en masse, everyone report their weapons as stolen, just DONT know what happened, they just disappeared. Someone took them. Oh well……..
      Low Info Canuckistanis love their basic dictatorship.
      What do all former dictators have in common?
      They’re dead. Just sayin……….

  41. I think there will be no more CPC elected Federally in Alberta. Can’t wait for the election call. Wexit is registered in Alberta Federally. Bye Bye CPC. And Jason Kenney is on very thin ice. Most Albertans have been anticipating and have made alternate arrangements. Going to be a lot of NZ style non compliance.

  42. Dear Canadians: You get and deserve the government you put into office. (NICE AND HARD)

  43. We were warning you about it, before the last election but so many here voted with their principles. Thank you so mach Kevin, Enema, UnMe and the rest. This one is on you, as much as on Libranos. You made it happen. You sabotaged the only alternative that could prevent it. You had principles. Remember, when Jackbooted thugs knock at your doors to confiscate your property, you tell them you voted for Max. That will show them.

    1. There’s really not much reason to believe Scheer or Harper wouldn’t have done something similar. Harper loved cracking down on guns.

      1. You’re beyond hopeless and are arguing against history and facts. Harper scrapped the long gun registry and on other fronts he did not make lives worse for gun owners and in some aspects made it better. If your interest in guns was more than theoretical, if you actually had guns and were familiar with the rules you would understand that.

        However, even if you think that Harper would do it (despite that he did not) and Scheer might do it (despite that he literately campaigned against it and it would be an electoral suicide), it was certain that Blackie will do it. You helped to enable it.

        It is just another part of the world you hate and want destroyed. Go swallow a tidepod.

        1. As usual, you’re the one who needs to be properly educated.

          The registry was bad but arguably the least offensive part of the legislative package it was a part of, the rest of which Harper didn’t touch. Further, once in power, Harper went all in for bringing the hammer down on people for the “crime” of carrying a handgun. This included mandatory minimums, since mercifully struck down by the court system.

          “Go swallow a tidepod.”

          I don’t take my medical directives from Trump.

          1. Again, you have no clue and are talking theory. Registry scrapping was absolutely crucial with permanent long term consequences for guns purchased before the scrapping of registry and the imposition of the mandatory sales record keeping that RCMP retaliated with against Conservatives. Records that coincidentally are not kept for private sales. Try to figure out yourself what the consequences are.

            Further there were a number of model specific bans that Harper lifted, some VZ, some Sig (IIRC Green Riffle). Even further ATT was abolished. I realize that none of this matters to you, because those are abstract concepts that you can’t relate to.

            Carry is prohibited in Canada, that is bad, it has been for decades, Harper did not change those rules. None carries in Canada for legitimate purposes. The only people who carry in Canada are criminals who almost always have illegally obtained those guns in the first place. Are you even aware what are the storage and transportation requirements regarding restricted firearms? Of course you’re not. And yes, those requirements are stupid and unnecessary, it does not change the fact that law abiding gun owners were not harmed in any way by Harper’s gun crime bill. Only lowlife scumbags who stolen their guns or had them smuggled in, lowlifes with no license and no intent to comply with any law carried them.

            Yes Harper did not fix all our problems (not your problems because you probably never even held a gun) Blackie made everything worse and continues doing so.

          2. Nothing you said contradicted my point that C19 (IIRC the registry’s mother legislation) was largely untouched by Harper. I’ll give him credit for what good he did do I always do but the lack of concealed carry does not in any way justify more penalties for those doing it illegally. The idea is to move the needle to freedom, not the other way around.

            Didn’t C19 impose private sales record keeping?

          3. Increased penalties for illegal carry by criminals did not in any way affected gun rights of law abiding citizens. Those are not gun rights. Stop purposefully confounding the issue.

            It wasn’t C-19 that imposed record keeping it was RCMP in their mutiny to Harper.

            In any case since the moment the registry was abolished they no longer knew (in theory) who had what unrestricted guns, the issue of private record keeping was moot. Records effectively only apply to guns bought in stores once the record keeping was forced on sellers. They have no idea who has what unrestricted guns purchased from stores prior to the requirement.

    2. I voted for Max. Likely the last time I will ever vote for a federal party. It will be only separatist parties from now on. Years of voting for “conservative” kanadian parties has accomplished nothing remotely conservative. Kanuckistan is lost to the commies and will never return to sanity. To be honest I really don’t think Alberta is too far behind when it comes to being populated by ignorant parasites.

      Just as a friendly reminder. The last time actual jack booted thugs (RCMP) were kicking doors in confiscating firearms Stephen Harper was Prime Minister. He did nothing about it…same for our provincial “conservatives ” at the time.

      Harper is likely the closest Canada will ever get to being conservative and will never be repeated. He wasn’t much of a conservative.

      1. So long story short, you helped to enable Blackie, congrats, you own it as much as Karens and Enrichers voting Linrano.

        1. No, this is owned by those that voted CPC. They are the ones that voted liberal lite to keep an actual conservative out of power. But I don’t hold them in contempt nor do I have any hard feelingsforthem. . They voted their conscience and were ok settling for status quo.

          1. Yes, that is the consistent logic that can be expected from maxbots. We voted not to let it happen. You voted to let it happen. Therefore it happening is the fault of us not you… Ocular Penetration Prevention Act is sorely needed.

          2. Liberal lite is BS and that’s the just some of the nonsense that people refused to buy from the PPC.
            Remember this as you seem to have forgotten, the PPC did not win any seats.
            You do realize that?
            Thankfully Max and the PPC presented so poorly they did not affect much.
            Smart voters were trying to get rid of Trudeau.

  44. So now that these “assault” weapons are now banned is this supposed to make something happen?
    Is some kind of magical force now in effect to make people stop doing something?
    Is that thing they asked for going to get them what they want?
    When the next shoot out takes place in Montreal Toronto or Vancouver will there be some random acts of journalism, or will the story be jammed down the memory hole?

    I will stand on the position that those that asked for this should get it good and hard.
    If they currently have a security detail, their guards should be given nothing more lethal than a paint ball gun.
    Same goes for any state agency that issues weapons to its personnel.
    Everyone means everyone.

    Yeah I know it will never come to pass.
    But that’s the argument I’m using.

    1. If banning firearms made people safer, they should make it illegal to murder. Oh wait, that’s already on the books and not being enforced.

  45. Bienvenue en République populaire démocratique du Kanuckistan

    It’s been turning that way since Pearson was elected. PET confirmed it. Mulroney and Harper did nothing to stem it. Chretien and Dear Leader just crapped on everyone that died fighting against the Nazis.

  47. Possibly related:
    ‘An emerging situation’: Individual possibly armed with guns at an Oakville home and residents are urged to stay inside.
    https://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/9967545–an-emerging-situation-individual-possibly-armed-with-guns-at-an-oakville-home-and-residents-are-urged-to-stay-inside/
    If it is a response to Blackie’s latest atrocity, please don’t do it. They will kill you if you resist. They will enjoy killing you and your family. They hope you give them the excuse. They will always be exonerated no matter how hamfisted and sociopathic their response is. This is what they are looking for, the cops, the MSM and Libranos all of them.

    1. There are several of the previously unrestricted now banned guns on store shelves, Norinco M14s, Mini 14s, Beretta Storm etc. These will be confiscated, bankrupting gun stores is a part of the agenda. Also RCMP thugs required gun stores to keep records of sales. They will visit those gun owners and interrogate and harass them. They will be looking for slightest excuses to step on them with a jackboot. And suppose that you have managed to hide that M14 or the Mini, what then? You’re a criminal, you cannot take it to the range and if, God forbid, you end up using it for self defense you’re double fucked.

      1. The stores will get to send them back to their suppliers.
        They have not been banned globally FFS.
        C71 has not been implemented yet.

  49. If every environmental group in the country can plug up pipeline construction forever then it can and should be done with this. SHUT DOWN THIS GOVERNMENT. Sue them in every court in the country. File so many cases they won’t even be able to hear them.

  50. Its interesting they would do this right after every Torontonian with a brain just found out how hard it is to buy a gun in this country. And do it on May day too.

    Dear Liberal voters of Canada:

    I know that before COVID-19 you were not paying attention. You did not think you needed a firearm. You did not have any doubt that the government was on the ball and getting all their work done.

    But now you have seen them completely drop the ball in every possible way. Now you have seen the shelves at the grocery store go empty. You went online to try to buy a firearm, and you discovered just how badly you’ve been screwed while you thought everything was fine and dandy.

    Now, you are paying attention. I suggest you consider never voting Liberal again.

    1. Canadians by and large are complacent, moronic, self righteous cretins. They voted for this and judging by what I’m seeing online, most of them can’t grasp the simple fact that a government who will remove the rights of people they don’t like with a simple stroke of the pen will eventually remove all our rights. This country deserves to break up.

    2. Sorry but you’re talking to Canadians who overwhelmingly believe that Blackie, Karen Hajdu and Tam are their saviors. I am afraid that they cannot get unlobotomized.

      1. I was reminded of that earlier today.

        I was waiting in the checkout lineup at a nearby grocery store and I started chatting with the lady behind me. She was about as old as me, so she remembered PET.

        I voiced my displeasure at what Dear Leader Prinz Dummkopf the Magnificent did and how he completely mishandled the entire matter. I even cited his abolition of Parliament.

        Her response was along the lines of “you can’t be too careful” or “better to over-react”. Worse was her passive defence of him, saying that she wouldn’t want to make the tough decisions he is faced with.

        Good heavens, people really are that stupid!

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