More: Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson test positive in Australia.
Player tests positive, NBA suspends season indefinitely.
I think we can dispense with the Probably Nothing meme at this point.
If you didn’t watch the Rogan interview with Michael Osterholm I posted yesterday, you need to do so now. (link fixed).
The first 20 minutes and last five are Coronavirus specific.
Hand washing and sanitizer is not effective as the virus is inhaled. Distancing from others is more important.
Lay away a couple of months of food staples if at all possible.
Expect drug shortages for your prescriptions. Check your supplies now.
A vaccine is two years away. Unless Trump orders it tested on prison inmates, per Rogan’s suggestion.
Most of us are going to get this, a significant number will be very sick, and some won’t make it.
You can now not travel from Paris to New York, but you can still get to Toronto from Beijing.
— Keean Bexte (@TheRealKeean) March 12, 2020
Two cabinet ministers and a handful of senators are now in self-isolation as a precaution against COVID-19, just as the House of Commons and the Senate prepare for a possible outbreak of the novel coronavirus on Parliament Hill. Wednesday, parliamentarians began to release public plans for containment. So far, tourists are still welcome to tour the chambers,
Trump seemed hoarse tonight. Sounds like he might be coming down with something. It’s probably nothing. As for government action, the only solution is a Wuhan style lockdown but we have to wait for more deaths.
No, didn’t seem hoarse. Calm, reserved, reading from the script, as was necessary.
Meanwhile in Ottawa, as said, the planes from CHiner keep arriving.
While the US has taken significant steps on this, Canada has not. Expect our numbers to look like Italy, thanks to the lack of containment on international travel. Thanks Trudles
I didn’t know that Tom Hanks married his volleyball: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Wilson
Nah he’s just really bad at reading. All his teleprompter speeches are the same.
I agree James.
We noticed it right away…and a few friends have commented the same.
Hoarse, slight sniffles,a tight swallow as if he had a sore throat.
Just a matter of time before they shut cross border trucking. Brutal because I just started my own company. Cross canada rates will get even cheaper.
May as well stay home.
Ammo…make sure you have lots.
?
what, to shoot the virus?
/sarc off
or substitute this one where applicable:
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what? to shoot the locusts?
/sarc off
guns guns guns.
The Chicoms have been lying all along. What’s new?
I’m bit worried about war “breaking” out.
Think I’ll buy a bit more ammo tomorrow although I’m pretty well stocked.
As for the NBA, I Just Don’t Care.
“Hand washing and sanitizer is not effective as the virus is inhaled.”
Not true. These viruses can also be spread by contact, so yes hand washing is somewhat effective.
Also, it’s not a ‘flu’.
Yet you were saying it was the flu a couple of weeks back. Keep your lies straight, Chicom shill.
I hate to agree with UnMe,
but washing hands does count
the droplets that fly around when people cough can end up on your hands or on sufaces you touch,
then you may eat something with your hands, or bite your fingernails, or lick your finger to turn the page or rub your eye and that droplet has now entered your system
wash your hands often
Works to help prevent colds, flu, salmonella, food poisoning too.
Shut.
The.
FUCK
Up.
Sorry, no. UnMe and his fellow “libertarians” got us into this. Tucker Carlson was clear—never listen to these people again.
UnMe—I don’t know who you are or what you are playing at, but people close to you will probably die of this. If you thought the death of people who aren’t Randian heroes was worth it, why didn’t you just shoot them? It would have been quicker and less painful.
He does not have people close to him. That level of false libertarian autism is incompatible with empathy. The dysfunction results from abandonment issues, broken home etc.
Ugh ok retard, you keep voting PPC … just like UnMe.
Returning from the war, I wanted to shoot all the hair headed Hippies in California.
Now I don’t have to.
Like an SDA’ er said;
‘ something good might come from this pandemic after all.’
Really!? If we all die, then I will stand corrected, but, really!? Rogan and the pencil neck came across as reality tv fear mongering fools. And the comments here sound weird. What the fook dudes…are you serious. Kate, what do you mean? Sarc or…..?
Mortality rates
SARS = 9.6 %
MERS = 34 %
covid19 = 3.4 %
contagious does not equal deadly, and 3.4 % is a low mortality rate
but time will tell who is right ( Trump or Trudeau )
The H1N1 (swine flu) had a mortality rate of .02%. I wouldn’t call 3/4% a “low mortality rate”.
compared to SARS = 9.6 % and MERS 34 % yes 3 % is very low
and apparently the 3 % is too high and has been revised – by the WHO – to 1 .5 %
Yeah sure it has, meanwhile back in the real world it was 3.4% three days ago and now is 3.67% and that’s counting false Chicom and Iranian data that artificially lowers the true results.
Why did all of sudden WHO started estimating? Because actual calculations went the way opposite to desired.
It is still high. Much. MUCH higher than H1N1. Your comment is idiotic.
37 million people x 70 percent infection rate with 3 percent fatalities =777,000 dead . Yes it’s probably nothing.
3.4% that’s so last week. We’re just under 3.7% now, and climbing fast. Tenth of a percent every day three days in a row. And that’s with artificially lowered rates by Chicoms and Tehran Turbans.
So far, tourists are still welcome to tour the chambers,
Good
May they all die
In both cases more than likely AIDS Sorry still refuse to panic and will continue to shun foreigners as has been said on here many times pray for a famine this might be as close as we will get
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf
Aerosol and surface stability of HCoV-19 (SARS-CoV-2) compared to SARS-CoV-1
// We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. //
Proportionally most people die from the seasonal flu that have from this new virus. And those that have died from thishave been elderly or frail, most of the deaths in the US are residents of care homes. That may change but the panic is way out of line. If you are not frail, elderly, or with a preexisting lung or heart condition it is unlikely that you will die.
Yes maybe stock up on a few essentials and remember toilet paper makes a good barter item.
What do you mean by “proportionally”?
Yeah proportionally to what? Conditional on infection Wuhan Kung Flu is muhc deadlier than regular flu.
You’re pretty heartless, aren’t you? Don’t have any older relatives?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/
Yea…gee thanks. I feel sooooo MUCH Better…./sarc
2 weeks after 5 bypass surgery.
But I will in the AM stock up on my Meds. All 6 of them.
+3 X Tylenol Xtra strength
+ 2 X Vit D.
+ Cpl 25 lb bags of “Go” Dog food.
Take Good care my friends…I’m not the praying type, but wish ALL of you good fortune during these times….yea, even you unthing. Only one I don’t….just grew a beard.
good call on the Meds Kate..!!
Hey steak man, that quintuple bypass sure put some juice in your tank, based on your post bypass comments! Quite enjoying it.
As a rural resident, hunter ,grow our own vegetables,wood heat,can catch fish 100 YARDS not meters from the house may the biggest pox on earth occurred in every liberal hovel on earth.Mostly Toronto and every other Trudeau loving swine
The travel ban won’t apply to US citizens, legal permanent citizens or their families.
Democrats Abroad counting on their US passports to let them escape a European lockdown should be denied entry and arrested if they try. As it is, this is far too little, far too late.
Mike Bloomberg must be laughing himself sick. (Joe probably has no idea what’s going on.)
I guess it will depend on whether there are any flights back to the U.S.
My daughter’s two close Irish friends had flights to LA for the end of their month … to come visit. Not any more. And my Canadian in-laws are stuck in Barcelona … having had their entire Italy vacation utterly destroyed. At least they’ll be able to get back to Canada, eh? Thanks PM-do nothing!
However … puhleeze! The hysteria is completely overboiled. What MY President did tonight is all completely reasonable. And every narrow branch of infection spread needs to be thoroughly investigated, and everyone tested and quarantined as necessary. But life does NOT need to come to a halt.
But the “prepper community” just LOVE this shit.
You may not be interested in the globalist counter-revolution, Kenji, but it’s very interested in you.
The whole point of acts of terror is to bring normal life to a screeching halt and blame it on the lawful authorities. That was the point of releasing the Wuhan virus. So far, everything is going according to plan.
Up to six million people—mostly elderly, mostly male, and mostly ready to re-elect your president—may die of COVID-19. Millions more will lose their jobs and face financial ruin. Probably nothing compatible with a free society can stop it now. All because the Politburo and their assets in the American Deep State oppose the re-election of Donald Trump.
That President Trump will be re-elected anyway (because Americans will see through the plan and go to the polls to support their president) will be very cold comfort.
Your anger proves… you just love this shit
That was so undeserved. You are always so fun and funny and informative, my American friend. Don’t mind him, Kenji. He has new names everyday — has multiple personalities.
Thank you Nancy. I don’t take these sorts of outbursts seriously. You’re right, I’m simply too affable to take this sort of crap seriously. I prefer an intellectual discussion to flame fests.
As for our “societal collapse” … nonsense. This will be a short-lived PANIC/Prudent social distancing thing … for a while. All I can say is that as much of a haircut I’ve taken in the stock market … I am fortunate enough to have enough cash on the sideline to buy-into the MOTHER of all buying opportunities in my entire lifetime in the coming weeks/months. Yes, I expect to live long-enough to reap the benefits. Ha ha ha ha!
Hanging in! Stocks are plunging today.
You’re right. Time to buy.
“OOOhhh Maaaama!”
prepper community.
had to lOOk that one up.
no kidding. like the WANT their worst case scenario to happen for bragging rights. or is that ‘rites’?
Not sure if one is to prepare for the pandemic or just the wave of hysteria that the pandemic (however severe or mild) generates. Bottom line is, supply may run out for any number of reasons, not all related to health. Once everyone senses that supplies can run out, the pressure grows and supply grows even shorter.
I think this is being overblown to some extent. So Tom Hanks has a cold, that’s not exactly a good reason to cancel 99% of public events around the world.
In any case, governments are soon going to need to start balancing realities. Just as with climate change, you can over-react and wreck the economy just to achieve very limited (and some might say unattaiable) goals. Common sense is one thing, a mass over-reaction with a global depression as a result makes no sense to save a few of us from a premature end, and let’s face it, we all come to that end sooner or later.
Tonight’s coronavirus numbers from Johns Hopkins
Total Deaths 4638
China deaths 3112
Italy deaths 827
Iran deaths 354
France deaths 48
Spain deaths 55
Subtotal deaths 4396
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Total deaths rest of the world 242
Can we trust China’s numbers? China claims that virus infections have plateaued. I don’t know if this claim is true but taking the claim and the numbers at face value we have:
Total infected 80,932
Total deaths 3,112
Total recovered 62,682
If China, with a population 1.4 billion, represents the worst case scenario then Canada, with 1/40th of China’s population, would get 2,000 infected, 80 dead, and 16,000 recovered when the virus infections will have plateaued in Canada at a similar stage of the disease’s progress.
I am leaving out of the comparison that Canada has a much healthier population and is, therefore, less vulnerable.
We’ll see.
Wuhan Pneumonia.
I prefer to call it the Wuhan Pneumonia, since the pneumonia is the real killer.
As the doctor in the middle of the carnage in Northern Italy said, BILATERAL INTERSTITIAL PNEUMONIA. Every diagnosis was Bilateral Interstitial Pneumonia.
The next “discovery” will be the permanent damage to the victims’ lungs from the pneumonia.
Do not get infected if at all possible.
Practice good hygiene, wash your hands.
Stay out of public.
Merkel says 55 million Germans and people in Germany will get Wuhan Pneumonia. Even if only 1% die, that is 550,000 people. Half a Million plus German corpses. Welcome to a World War carnage.
I dunno….
I think I prefer to call it Pangolin Flu. That way people may consider why anyone in an urban population would be eating pangolin. It’s a pretty strong indication that communism is backward as …
Which brings me to wonder about this sudden epidemic of f bombs. Perhaps its an early symptom. F bombs, fever, fatigue, … flatulence… flacidity, fatality. Huh… must be the Fuck flu.
Oh crap!
So do something.
1) read this article: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
2) send this article to your municipal, provincial, FN and Federal gov’ts
3) As far as you can self-isolate
4) When you can’t do the social distance thing
5) Be prepped for two months of isolation
6) Enjoy the ride
The cleansing of the world had began. Since the ratio of scumbags and douchebags to decent people is 10:1, the world will be a better place once this blows over. Soon we can start looking at doughebags through a different lense. Karma is a beotch.
I didn’t know that Tom Hanks married his volleyball: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Wilson
Support one another=yes!
I think the health care workers in our lives, in our neighborhoods, are going to need a ton of support.
No one leader is talking about the importance of community. Rather we panic and talk to isolation and a hermits existence.
The question I’m asking myself is that if this is true and we (mostly) all catch the flu then 96% of us will develop immunity. What then?
Being hardwired for fight or flight we do not respond well to slow motion train wrecks.
And the expectations that our institutions can and will be able to respond quickly and effectively to a pandemic are somewhat naive.
They are government,crisis is their reason for existing.
But crisis planning is a lifetime of waiting with very brief periods of extreme terror.
We live in our own little bubbles,friends,family,work and future plans..outside that, a larger world occassionly imposes itself.
But most of what we “know” of the larger world is fight or flight reporting.
If it bleeds it leads.
The last few decades have shown us the “Reporting” may be the problem.
If you base your world view on our North American Media’s product, you will suffer major confusion.
“Yes we have always been at war with Oceana”.
Now we have a spreading viral infection that drowns the inflected inside their own lungs.
We know there is no good reason to trust the “reports”,nor those government numbers shamelessly spewed out, cancelled and changed daily.
So a distant dread,hangs on the horizon,the drums of doom pound away as background noise and those with time on their hands speculate and chatter endlessly.
What has changed inside our life bubbles?
Where is the immediate harm?
Were you planning on living forever?
Forever young and healthy?
As the manufactured hysteria spreads.
Trust,whatever is left,in institutions(Government expertise) falls.
Our dollar is tanking,if you planned on buying any imported toys,now might be a good time.
Sorry Kate, not impressed with Olsterholm. Half the people graduate in the bottom 50%. He was all muddled around school closings. It’s not hard. The data show a death rate for 10 – 19 yr olds @ 0.2% – because kids don’t get it or something. C’mon it’s really not hard to find the official announcements that have infecty kids. Just look at the Tree on the Lawyer patient zero out of New Rochelle. Let’s be wishy washy about keeping a hot pool of super spreaders, YAY. Did he give wrong advice around hand sanitizer too? Yikes. Yes he did get it right about cytokine storms and vaccines (that’s what I meant when I said SARS vaccine causes small dead animals) but there may be other ways to skin the cat.
Here’s some math posts that are more interesting. https://arguablywrong.home.blog/2020/03/10/epidemiological-modeling/ and all models are wrong but some are useful but Toilet paper in back packs – priceless. Almost as good as a gaseous plume https://wmbriggs.com/post/29734/