Well, you can’t say we didn’t warn them.
The PPC had just over five per cent of the popular vote at last count. The party has notably done better in Ontario, where it has so far garnered just under six per cent of the vote.
And its stronger showing might have hurt the Conservatives. According to an analysis by CBC News Labs, vote splitting between the Tories and the PPC may have cost the Conservatives up to 24 ridings. They include a handful in southwestern Ontario, such as Cambridge, St. Catharines and Kitchener South—Hespeler.
The party, which describes itself as populist, classically liberal and libertarian, was founded by Bernier in 2018. It campaigned on lifting many COVID-19 public health restrictions, as well as expanding the oil and gas industry, balancing the budget, ending official multiculturalism, and reducing immigration levels, among other policies.
PPC also ran second in a number of rural prairie ridings.
The shiny new progressive carbon taxing, gun grabbing, Paris accord signing ‘Not your dad’s Conservative party’ lost two seats.
A national journo, in a private email yesterday: Well, you’ve always understood the Conservative base better than the, um, Conservative Party of Canada, so there’s that. 😂
Free advice: When your core argument against a Prime Minister is “Nobody Wanted This Election!”, don’t be surprised when millions of voters interpret that as “There’s no pressing urgency to remove the Liberals from government. Please let them carry on.”
I mean, I didn’t think it was possible to come up with something worse than “Just Not Ready”, but it turns out they could.
Morons.
I have more to say in the comments, in response to LyndaL — “Just not ready” was good and entirely appropriate. At this point, it is clear that Justin will never be ready. He holds the office of PM, but fails miserably as a leader.
No, it was stupid. Red hot midday sun on Mercury stupid. The underlying message of “just not ready” was that Trudeau had the core essentials to be Prime Minister, and only lacked experience. That’s a high price to pay to work in a clever word play on the name “Just”in.
These people are morons from top to bottom. When Conservative faithfuls are arguing “we know you aren’t happy with our new progressive leader but we have to stop Trudeau” you’ve LOST THE FUCKING PLOT.
Add this –> 400,000 identified conservative voters in Alberta stayed home last night.
Update: Mark Steyn checks in.
Has O’Toole resigned yet?
If he had any shame he’d resign within 24 hours. However, we all know that won’t happen.
The Tool ran a campaign that promised do to what they other guy did, but that he wasn’t the other guy.
Coulda had a Maverick in an Alberta riding or two. Kind of tired of vote splitting nervous nellies. Time to get some pro-oil, economy voices in there. Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec, gonna elect the gubermint by noon anyways. And what is this I see about 400,000 Albertan Conservatives staying home? Or just not voting for the flip flopper?
In his speech yesterday, he behaved like he had no intention of resigning.
That could be an indication that he knives are out. Won’t matter, they’ll just put another Lieberal in charge.
Trudeau first. But O’Toole after. I like how media is trying to blame Kenney, yet Alberta is not where he lost seats. So it’s O’Toole that’s the problem. Not that I agree with Kenney.
Yes.
To the CPC vote splitting whiners, that was your decision, not ours.
Go merge the CPC with the NDP and get it done. You’re splitting the vote staying apart!
Exactly. CINO’s … the whole lot of em
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here’s a thought… maybe you’re blaming the wrong guy…
“The CBC reports that Justin Trudeau has set another spending record:
at $610 million, this election will be the most expensive ever, a
full $100 million more than the vote the Liberal leader called just two
years ago. That’s $1.1 billion in total for two campaigns.“
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After all that money was spent, what did we get for it? Then again, when the government views the taxpayer as an endless source of money, why not?
Why don’t you tell us to consult the new minted PPC MPs. Oh right, there are none. Nice tradeoff – 24 CPC seats for 0 PPC.
Harper understood libertarians had to fuse with conservatives to overcome the socialists. Traitor Bernier helped undo that.
Whining about not being conservative while voting for a libertarian party is what keeps idiots like Trudeau in power. Nice job.
Shamrock, People like you that blame others for refusing to vote for a party that had basically given the middle finger to all of its libertarian, social and fiscal conservatives base remind me of dog beaters, they beat their dog and then wonder why the dog is to scared to come to them when their owner calls. When the dog does not go to the owner the owner get mad again and beats the dog even more. Not once does it ever occur to the owner that beating his dog is the reason the dog wont come to him. All the dog beater does is keep blaming the dog.
Your meandering word salad nonsense changes not one bit of reality. Maybe your dog bit you, who knows. Who cares.
Maybe you’re just cruel and ignorant. Don’t know except on votes and politics you are certainly part of the problem.
My CO always told me never listen to people who only bitch about problems or offer zero seats solutions like Bernier.
It’s not about blame it’s about results, which are obvious that the PPC failed itself, Canadians and our country.
Maybe in your world pointing out facts is the same as blame. If so I feel sorry for you, so removed from reality.
Don’t care if you blame me for that or because you maybe beat your dog.
PPC clowns have has yet to win a seat in Parliament. His build like Green comment is laughable. They have seats.
Go back to your separation fantasies as again politically chauvinist cannibal conservatives frig up the works.
Lol! It’s ok buddy, I know you can’t help but to keep blaming the dog and and blaming others for why the CPC can’t win elections.
The CPC keeps drifting to the left and they wonder why libertarians, social conservatives and fiscal conservative no longer want to vote for them?
You would think after 3 election loses they would figure it out but I guess Einstein is right.
Albert Einstein: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Once again, Canadians of all stripes get the government they deserve, good and hard.
Yes Thucy, we now have a true moronity government. Morons all.
Don’t be surprised when millions of voters interpret that as “There’s no pressing urgency to remove the Liberals from government. Please let them carry on.”…. Exactly. That is the very sentiment that one of my employees said to me yesterday before I let them off early to vote. “Better the devil she knew,” she said. And yet the Liberals treat the conservatives as the enemy every chance they get.
Is it better to elect a less hated leader to implement the same basic crap policies?
Tories are lazy. Come up with something interesting like funding nukes and giving people and businesses cheap clean electricity instead of allowing billions bleed in green initiatives that dont work.
Come up with and early detection and treatment plan for covid. Fund antibody tests for vaccine hesitant people.
Propose a change of the charter that forces new immigrants to labor markets in need for a period of 2 years and let all provinces determine their immigration needs.
Do something different.
Precisely – instead of offering a clear alternative and convincing Canadians of its merit, he chose Liberal Lite – “Hey, we’ll continue w/all the free stuff but we’ll be less arrogant and corrupt about it” – who gives a rats azz?
Never understood why people drank blue light beer. Just a lighter version of a shit beer.
Figuratively, the libs are the brand of labatts blue.
Well said John! The people … MOST ALL the people … are far more “sophisticated” (sorry Obama) than given credit for. They are weary and wary of tired old political platitudes and slogans … and WANT real concrete polices. Policies directly expressed by their so-called leaders. Trump was/is a non-politician to the People’s liking. He may … appear … “unsophisticated” in his manner, but he expresses CONCRETE polices … take em or leave em … like em or not. And the people LOVE IT!
Oh! And then, promises made, promises kept.
OTOH … O’Toole’s proximity to Justin and Leftist policies … makes John McCain’s bro-hug with Chuck Schumer look like social distancing
But that way they couldn’t express their newfound love of homos,trannies, and NEW Khanadians!! We want them to know we are Woke and stupid just like them.
Inflation is not pressing enough…..yet.
It soon will be. Does Canada have an Impeachment process?
Yes. It’s called Rule 308. The last time it was employed was in 1868 by Patrick J. Whelan.
I’m still wondering why he called the election now.
Option #1 = hubris.
But I’m really wondering about
option #2=bad news so massive that they wanted the protection of a majority. Massive Inflation? China’s economy collapses pulling the world down with it? Great reset rubber hits the road.
#2 … fo shur
Option 3. The jabs are not a long term solution, and vax injuries grow, where they can no longer bury the facts.
That one too.
Definitely #3
The bodies are piling up
One look to combined totals of EUDRA & VAERS
~ 38,000 dead
Over 3 million severe adverse reactions….
But but but “Its safe they say”
As if.
David Martin:
US PATENTS DO NOT lie….
Dr Judy Mikovits told us what would happen as far back as April 2020..she was near strung up for it….but was 100% bang on.
Dr Ryan Cole Pathologist shows you precisely what happens with this Spike Protein.
What most are unaware of is that under an EUA, Big Harma is under no obligation to keep the same mix of shit in their jabs…and it shows: millions unaffected (Saline..?..gee it’s “safe”), while the reporting agencies show what I posted above…..Let that sink in
The opposition, in a minority situation, must always be ready and willing to rumble.
Can we at least get some criticism of the government now? I mean that’s the job of the opposition isn’t it?
What “opposition”, James?
They’re all running on the same side with nearly identical platforms. It’s simply a matter of degree.
How can they, they’ve just spent the last 32 days saying how theyr are just like them.
Too true.
The opposition’s motto: “if you can’t beat em, join em”
The results are about what I expected. The CPC and whoever its new leader will be must oppose the government and not just say we want to be the ones doing what you’re doing. The fact that Trudeau failed in his bid for eternal power is a good thing, however. How much money did he spend just to break even? His claim that he now has a mandate to completely destroy the country is utter nonsense. He needs to go too.
When the people essentially cede all their power to The State … a strong, coherent “Leader” isn’t needed. Any Dear Figurehead will do.
However, I’m referring to the “leader” of the opposition whomever that may be. I can only hope that, if it’s still O’Toole, that he realizes that an actual opposition is required. The idea that we should maintain the same bus route merely with a different bus driver is absurd.
The Conservative Party, despite its moniker, is not conservative. The PPC platform, while it may not be electable at this moment, with its first two principles of “personal freedom and responsibility” is conservative. The CPC has not been representing the conservative interest for quite a while now. We don’t need big government, we need small government – nothing positive has ever come out of increasing the size of government.
Quite so CC. However, I don’t expect O’Toole to resign. He will insist on the second chance.
He’ll run the John Tory playbook
Good. John Tory was campaign chair for Kim Cambell.
Conservatives live big government. There is nothing so conservative as forcefully ordering others to your arbitrary values. The whole Trump thing demonstrated this in spades.
You’re still butthurt that PDJT suspended travel from certain Terrorist-exporting States …till our 17 vaunted Intelligence Agencies could … “figure out what was going on”. That’s what you mean by forcing “arbitrary values” on people … Right? Or was it his actual CONTROL of the American border … unlike “Illegal immigrant swarm-Joe”
There is no evidence that his travel ban was correlated with ‘exporting terrorism’ (Chad is actually a significant ally to America, and I would take them over Saudi anyday). It was another case of ‘racists gonna racist’.
Canadians clearly don’t want that.
They would be happy living like slaves.
Prove me wrong (ie – last night).
Wait till Wednesday when the mail in ballot count comes in and 13-14 seats auto magically end up being called for the Liberals.
Instant majority.
They just need to see what ridings are close and print enough ballots.
Lol I’m sure they have a surplus of photocopiers in the US somewhere.
Canadian voters turning out at the polls: https://www.sleepreviewmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sheep-sleep-spindles-1-1200×630-cropped.jpg
Another thing. You Canadians pride yourselves on the so-called “integrity” of a voting system that is under total government control and in the next breath you harshly criticize anything else under total government control. Are you seriously surprised at the outcome of this so-called “election?”
https://namibiafactcheck.org.na/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PHOTO-2019-11-29-09-01-51-226×300.jpg
One thing we do have is a trusted election system. You can’t rig an election here because it’s hand counted and observed by representatives of the candidates. Once counting starts no one is allowed in to the room until the counting is finished. No late night ballot drops. We know exactly how many mail in ballots were issued and where as well.
Another sheep who “trusts the government” There is precisely your problem. You “trusted them” to take your personal weapons from you too. Hint: you can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out.
Yes, there have been so many ‘Murrcans shooting their way out of their failed election system. The Patriots have been really active in using their firearms cleaning up their cities and their political mess. It has been astounding to see how many of them have taken up arms and changed virtually everything.
Turnout was 60%
Sadly (or not) the Liberals don’t need to steal Canadian elections. Canadians are more than willing to give the crooks the keys to the house. If the Libs and NDP ever realized they are basically the same party, they would be in power forever. Woe Canada.
Proving the veracity of my first graphic link. That is very sad indeed.
Canadians aren’t interested in moral leadership. It’s all about the dole, and how much they can expect to get from government. The main parties seem to be in a race as to who will promise the leaches the most goodies. Personal freedom and accountability means squat to these people. They love it when they can blame their personal failures on others rather than look inside themselves for the cause.
james
hahahahahahaha, you know how full of shit you sound?
Rigged Media = Rigged Election.
The right never had a chance this election, no matter which faction you supported. If Liberal polling showed conservatives coalescing behind the CPC, then their lapdog media and other loyal foot-soldiers would have tripled down on the fear-porn and hate-mongering of conservatism. O’Toole would have sold even more of his soul under such intense pressure, the spineless man that he is. It is quite dismaying when you see followers attain positions of leadership.
The US election was CLEARLY stolen from Trump, and it was mostly done right out in the open with a stunningly biased legacy media and equally corrupt big tech controlling the movement of information.
“The US election was CLEARLY stolen from Trump”
You have zero proof of this. You got nothing.
And spare me the whining about the media. Conservatives had decades to do better and NP and WSJ aside it’s one disaster after the next. GB News being the latest awfulness.
Well, look who decided to show up to get his digs in.
Couldn’t you at least wait for the mail in ballots to come in before you start gloating?
It’s not just the media, you moron. It’s the politics, the justice system, and the education system all working in unison to crap out the most useless, twisted minds, of which group you so sadly belong.
And if you think this post is a little out of character from me, you should have seen the earlier draft that I had to tone down.
Conservative Victim Complex going into hyperdrive.
Huh? So BIG TECH suppression of FACTUAL reporting and FACTUAL information doesn’t equal voter suppression? Vote fraud? And you consider yourself “educated”? I consider you a Fascist Totalitarian Twit.
Exactly. There is zero proof the US election was stole from dRumpf.
The US media is constantly boasting that Biden smashed the previous record total of 69 million votes. Biden talks about it all the time.
I have seen a couple of documentary specials on The Story of the Most Popular President in US History, Joe Biden.
Also, the media is always scolding the Republicans for opposing Obama’s agenda, as Biden’s 81 million legal votes proves he has a mandate from the country!
unDork
Tetra bite of CCTV footage refutes your bullshit, throw in that they also have oodles of Cell phone pings to show that it was quite often the same person stuffing ballots in drop boxes. Just because you are and uninformed idiot lacking critical thinking skills, does not mean your lies aren’t lies.
“Tetra bite of CCTV footage refutes your bullshit”
No it doesn’t.
“So BIG TECH suppression of FACTUAL reporting”
There is no such ‘suppression’. You just suck at this.
Yes, the US election was stolen but the Canadian one was defaulted.
Elections in Canada are no safer than in the USA.
by the way those suspicious Dominion machines, their head office is in Toronto; they are a Canadian company deeply involved in cheating…
Voting machines are not used in Canadian federal elections. Unlike the US election, this is totally on the voters … and an inept opposition.
I was a scrutineer last evening, the candidate representative that can oversee the ballot counting… I can tell you from my own eyes you could rig this election while blindfolded and one hand tied behind your back.
#1 Apparently knowing how to count over 10 is optional. I just about fell asleep as a man counted out loud over 150 several times while getting a different number each time from the same pile.
#2 Reading comprehension is not required. The counters get a book with detailed step by step instructions and out of 8 polling stations only 2 of them seemed to be able to understand the very basic instructions that included pictures and diagrams. I had to stop many who were just “winging it” and this was my first rodeo. I was able to point out their mistakes by using simple logic.
#3 There was a situation where a family of 5 young adult men (at the same address and a little odd in my mind with a mother looking over them arms crossed) was stopped from voting because they were marked as having mail in ballots. The young men also had their voter cards and claimed they did not submit in the mail. Despite my contesting and questions they were allowed to place their vote. There is nothing saying they couldn’t have voted twice in this case and clearly the rules in place didn’t stop that possibility from being true.
#4 Interesting that while every party may have a representative at each polling station to scrutinize the counts, I was the only one there. I learned back at the candidates office that not a single polling station in our district had a representative from the Liberal party to oversee. That sort of makes me wonder if they don’t bother because they know they have this in the bag no matter how many errors might take place. Conspiracy? Maybe but likely true based on the outcome.
I will add that this stations counts did not end until 1:30 am and I addressed and forced corrections on many errors. Ballots mixed between parties and counted as one party… voided votes that were clearly not void… double counting, wrong counting, unbalanced totals, envelopes being stuffed in the wrong area, in addition to the “I’ve got them on the phone can we just call this thing now?” When we were not even half way through! I made sure it was not finalized until all numbers were final.
Keeping in mind I am just a person who volunteered to do a job to oversee operations for my Candidate of choice. No matter the outcome I wanted to be sure that the process was true and honest. All I could think to do was volunteer and see for myself how the votes were counted. I expected a circus but not one of the 3 ring kinds! Not in a million years did I expect the window for error that was in front of me. While my designated polling station was small in the big picture, every vote counts and must be counted properly. No way they are double checking this stuff.
Pleasetellme
I had an instance, in South Ottawa, in a Provincial election a few years back. A muslim and his four wives (it was obvious) were trying to vote. He had driving license as ID and was arguing with the clerk who decides if you can vote . The only ID three of the women, oh, and the mother, could offer was their QUEBEC health card.
For those who don’t know, South Ottawa is in Ontario
O’Fool’s job – if he got in – was to run the cattlecars to the gas chambers on time better than than the incumbent.
So a plate full of BUThurt Oozing Colon, with a side order Lizzard Jerky. You idiots never learn!
Can anyone translate? Mine just keeps blinking : NPC…. NPC … NPC
so beagle, Nutless, Prickless, Colon you say you are?
“Just not ready” was good and entirely appropriate. At this point, it is clear that Justin will never be ready. He holds the office of PM, but fails miserably as a leader.
No, it was stupid. Red hot midday sun on Mercury stupid. The underlying message of “just not ready” was that Trudeau had the core essentials to be Prime Minister, and only lacked experience. That’s a high price to pay to work in a clever word play on the name “Just”in.
These people are morons from top to bottom. When Conservative faithfuls are arguing “we know you aren’t happy with our new progressive leader but we have to stop Trudeau” you’ve LOST THE FUCKING PLOT.
This. In spades.
This, but they never had the plot. To be fair none of you ever did.
When you go after a political rival, you target an area of weakness that people will find credible. At the time, Justin had little experience — he had never served as leader of the opposition — and he seemed very immature. “Just not ready.” captures this. I think his immaturity continues to be a significant problem. He lacks empathy and an ability to think logically about issues. . . or perhaps he is just very ill informed. So, on balance, I did not think it was a bad line of attack at the time. Our problem now is how to get rid of the creep. I just don’t know. I think all of Canada has lost the plot. No one seems focused on things that will help the country. We are a bunch of special interest groups looking to destroy one another.
And who got their ass handed to them? The Ultimate Lying Ass Shitcon Harper. So sick of the incrimentalist shitcon philosophy. Harper had the whole fucking enchilada. A super max majority. And what did the bed pissing thumb sucking loser do. Stood and pissed his wool suit. He could have taken the axe and chopped root and branch and set the Socialist Agenda back 100 years. Instead all we got was piss running down his leg filling his boot. Useless Twat.
Strong language rom you Kate. I wonder how all the nose holders are feeling this morning – sore noses?
“Just not ready”, was so bad that it boggles the mind how they came up with it.
It does not mean anything, its an opinion, you got to run on facts that the so called “Liberal” government is incompetent and point blank to the incompetency, with a commentary that shows what can be done and is not.
As Trump once said, there is plenty of material to go on.
There is this thing about so called “Conservatives”, they don’t want to appear as though they are mean.
They don’t want to point to the fallacies of the so called “Liberals”, you may note that those pointing out the crap of the so called “Liberals” always are put down, shut out and with the help of the media cartel done away with.
All of that with the approval of the so called “Conservative” leader. After all he can’t be overshadowed by somebody else.
Lev
Exactly, the stupid on the right is so bad it hurts
From where do the backroom strategists hale?
C C
Life experience, is a pretty good haling point, kapeach?
I think effective campaigns are more about whipping up people’s emotions, rather than presenting them with “facts.” In a short campaign, people will be presented with facts, and counter facts. Most won’t take time to investigate the truth. Just look at how the picture of Little Allen Kurdy was used against Harper– no one bothered to investigate the facts surrounding this (that his father had not saught asylum in Canada) but Harper was blamed for children dying while people were seeking asylum. It was nonsense. I think Liberals are masters at manipulating people’s perceptions and using mis-perceptions and often irrational emotional appeals to their advantage.
For meaningless slogan’s (although this one was something of an own goal) Trudeau pere’s The Land is Strong great for a meaningless election. The sky is blue would be in a similar vein.
Did the Liberals have a slogan this time? Did the Conservatives? If yes, I am afraid I missed them. Unmemorable slogans for an unmemorable election.
The only party that even tried to contact me personally by telephone was the PPC and even that was a robocall.
I remember that slogan and the horrible ditty that used it in the TV ads. If I remember correctly, it was for the 1972 election, which he had to call sooner or later because of the 5-year limit and he had been in office for well over 4 years by that time.
Now we can all concentrate on how we are going to celebrate the new whiny indian holiday on Sept. 30th. I guess with Blackie being crowned dictator again, the flags will remain at half mast forever.
They are going to double the height of flag poles. That way, they can fly at the same height as before, but still technically be at halfmast
heh !
Will the Trudeau government be providing some Queen Victoria statues for them to topple and behead? It seems not possible to “celebrate” anything native without tearing down some aspect of traditional Canada. What is so sad is that I think many natives value Canada — or did.
1) Potential results if seat counts were roughly proportional to vote counts (vs. FPTP):
Libs = 108 (vs. 158)
CPC = 115 (vs. 119)
NDP = 60 (vs. 24)
Bloc = 26 (vs. 32)
PPC = 17 (vs. 0)
2) With over 4% of the vote, PPC auto-qualifies for the debates at the next federal election. So there’s that.
If you don’t think the parties that set the rules for the debates won’t move the goalposts you haven’t been paying careful attention.
Nope, they’ll just change the rules again.
Proportional representation would ensure minority coalition governments forever. Italy had a stretch of almost 30 years where there was an election every frigging year. Do you really want that?
No, but it is funny that only the losers would prefer proportional representation. First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.
Win or lose I have always accepted first-past-the-post.
Italy’s political culture and history and the specific form of PR it employed makes it a bit of an outlier. In most other mature democracies, frequency of general elections is not much different between PR- and non-PR countries. See chart here: https://www.fairvote.ca/factcheckstability/
There would be growing pains, of course, if Canada abandoned FPTP, but most parties will quickly realize that it’s not in their own interest to trigger elections every 12 months.
So we ended up pretty much where we started. On the upside, for a mere $600,000,000.00, Climate Barbie is off the payroll sooner rather than later.
The vote splitting argument is false.
People weren’t buying what O’Toole was selling. Simple as that. They weren’t going to buy his crap just because that was all that was available to them.
BTW, I wonder how many ridings the Quebec Milk Producers delivered to the Conservatives, given they started this mess.
On top of that, O’Foole didn’t do what he was supposed to: go full-scale Defcon 1 on the Liberals. He, like his predecessor, had so much material he could have used against Prinz Dummkopf, but he frittered it away.
He may think he’s a Ulysses Grant or Bill Sherman, but he turned out to be another George McClellan:
https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/george-mcclellan-lost-many-chances-destroy-714114
Oh but, “Conservatives” can’t be seen as angry, or pointed, mean, etc., to be successful. That’s what the media says.
That’s what mushy CINOs follow for advice, gotta be seen as mushy.
The vote splitting argument is false.
Of course it is, and it always has been. Most PPC voters were not going to vote Conservative — most of them were not going to vote at all. It was the same when Harper lost his last election — his voters didn’t defect to the Liberals, they stayed home. As long as the Conservative Party is a globalist operation that tries to be one compass point to the right of the Liberals, they will lose. There just aren’t enough voters who will go for that.
Yup, good question.
Too many parties!…The Bloc, a Quebec regional only party should have never been accepted in a Federal race…This country is a farce, a clown world full of morons. I hate Quebec, my birth Province, I hate Ontario, my home Province and I hate this once great nation…Since P.E.T, it’s been downhill ever since.
Enjoy the now accelerated crash and burn under king SOros’s puppet you big cities left voting dipshits…
Today, I thank all mighty GOD for the fortunate fact that I live in the country, far enough from any big Sodom or Gomorah.
Keeping my powder dry.
Just a thought.
Have you ever considered what would happen to the Bloc if ridings outside of Quebec set up Bloc riding associations and forced them to run a campaign outside of Quebec?
This is suggested in a mischief is important kind of way.
And if the Bloqheads didn’t exist?
Majority Liberal governments. While I think the Bloq are a bunch of troglodytes, they serve a purpose.
Every province should have their own version of the Bloq and they could all get together and arrange the dissolution of the federation.
I feel like I’m looking into a mirror — except for the “living in the country” part, which I wish I was.
Happy now, degenerates?
Fukkit. I am not going to bother voting anymore. Cuck conservatism is no better than neoliberalism. Canada is too diverse to function as a country. Talk to those morons out east, and most of them WANT cradle to grave welfare, gun control, all the froots of the rainbow, and more socialism. They expect the rest of the nation to pay for it too.
We out west need our own country, and the shitlibs need theirs and they need to pay for it too.
The feature of this country is that when they established it there was still this UEL anti American attitude that retained the hope that the rebels would fail and the colonies would beg to have a government structure built on privilege and patronage back in place.
So if you want to keep such a government in place waiting for a return to the natural order this is what you get.
Could have had Leyslyn Lewis. On the plus side electing the dull tool would have bought 18 months and a lifetime of blackface. The reason the turd called the election is they aren’t so stupid they didn’t realize the challenges coming wouldn’t preclude them from winning in 2 years. Dippers won’t like their “free” money disappearing.
For most Canadians, this is a big yawn. If you blinked, you missed it and nothing’s changed. In an adult country the results of this “unnecessary” election would be the eventual end of the winner. An expensive, embarrassing, mighty swing and a miss is no big deal here, I guess. Face palm.
I was wrong yesterday. I thought it would be 337 commie rats and 1 freedom fighter. Looks like instead it was a clean 338-0 sweep. For all the difference it makes.
Canada won’t elect another (C) majority government for at least a decade if historic norms hold up.
1930 Bennett majority -> walloped in 1935
1958 (+28 years) Diefenbaker majority -> downgraded to minority in 1962, then defeated in 1963.
1984 (+26 years) Mulroney majority -> repeats in 1988, then obliterated in 1993
2011 (+27/23 years) Harper majority -> defeated in 2015.
That’s amazingly consistent actually.
So it’ll be the late 2030s or so, before the ever-present stench of Liberal corruption finally gags enough Canadians that they oh-so-hesitantly remove them for some flavour of conservative-but-not-really government, only to return Liberals to power in <8 years time, where they will squat for another
20+ years.
I suspect it'll be even longer or more likely, by the time the (C) government "comes due" the country will be truly coming apart at the seams.
Gird your loins for the vaccine mandates (including our school kids, no later than Christmas I'd bet), vaccine passports, internet censorship, sucking off Big Telecom, big ol' taxes, big ol' spending, the next round of Liberal scandals, another round of Conservative uselessness… y'know. Canada as usual.
We may not even have a country by then, or if we do, we wouldn’t be able to recognize it, once the libbies get done with it.
Loins girded.
You inbread SDA gave Justine 12 seats…. congratulations.
You can spin anyway you want, but… a win is a win. PPC is a cult.
Enjoy losing your guns, vaccine for our children, more debt, more tax…
We’re supposed to take criticism from someone who can’t even spell “inbred”?
Yeah, think I’ll pass.
spell checker and I’m a little angry…. my point is still clear though.
We have only ourselves to blame.
boob
angry is not how you spell stupid
O’Stoole was going to do the same thing as the TurdHole. Not being able to tell that LPC and CPC were running virtually identical platforms might be a sign of inbreeding.
CPC voters caused the split and prevented a REAL Conservative party from winning seats. There fixed it.
“O’Stoole the Inbred” actually has a nice ring to it.
Great band name. Eric O’Stoole and the Inbreds.
Error O’Foole and the Inbreads.
And we should have trusted OFool for no vax mandates?
Like trusting Kenney? PFFFFFFFFT! He rolled over like a sack of potatoes. OFool would too!
The Tool man never promised to get rid of the vaccine mandates in the first place, but yes, he would have rolled just as easily as Kenney and Ford did.
You mean exactly what we would get if there was a Con majority, Lib majority or NDP majority?
Ah, so you think we’re rich because we “inbread” are rolling in dough? Maybe we’re the upper crust or do you believe we’re a bunch of crumbs?
Apparently, Canadians haven’t learned the lesson and it’s probably too late for you, now. Your conservative party is as useless as the Republicans, and you blame those that voted for principle, not contingency. If the Conservatives were actually smart, they would have embraced the people, not tried to emulate the tyrants. But this comment section is full of people screaming that principles don’t matter, even though the results prove that doesn’t work. You did the easy thing and lost. Now you’re impotent in front of the nancy boy. Keep screaming and vilifying those you should have followed. It will probably change reality.
There is a meme I cannot find. It depicts sheep heading to the slaughterhouse kill floor. One sheep says that they should revolt. The rest scream at him “Now is not the time!”
Basically sums up this country.
Found it for you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/mx28lf/if_we_comply_now_we_can_push_the_farmer_left_later/
Oddly enough, that site seems to use it as an argument FOR the left. Heh.
The argument that people “didn’t want this election “ was always idiotic. I’ve wanted it since 2019, and I’d wanted that one since 2015. If you’re not willing and ready to crawl a mile over broken glass to vote these unprincipled, corrupt, incompetent neo-Marxists into history’s waste bin, then you haven’t been paying attention. And I’m ready for the next election right now.
Happily voted PPC in a super safe Liberal riding (the wet got 56%) just to get that national % counted.
Why would I vote for a party that promises everything the others do…they’re just going to do it slower?
Hey, if the MSM is consistent (cough, cough), they’ll have to go with the ol’ Green Party “The PPC are gathering momentum”, even though after 20 years the Greens never had PPC numbers in the first real election.
Unfortunately, as has been mentioned above, this is just the middle of the inevitable conservatives time in the desert. Just re-read the Reform to CRAP to Conservative and 2030 sounds about right.
Keep your powder dry. The next Harper or Mike Harris will absolutely petrify the new generations who think O’toole is scary.
Have not done the number crunching, to see what the affect might be. But the one change i’d like to see in our voting system is a follows. If no candidate gets more than 50%+1 of the votes in the ride, then the riding goes into a run off vote. Much like what happens in party leadership races. The top two candidates in that ride get a additional week to campaign, then the people in the riding vote again. With only two people running in the riding getting the 50% should be mush easier. Bonus to this, it should end the vote-splitting debate. As any seat that is affected by vote-splitting rarely is won by over 50%. Sure, we will be stuck in ‘progressive’ hell, but how is that different than what is currently happening to this once good country.
Sadly, this will only consolidate the left vote and increase liberal held ridings.
That’s what the TurdHole wants to do. It will ensure we are ruled by Lieberals forever.
Yeah and if the NDP and Liberals didn’t hate each other, they’d realize they’ve become the same party, unite and rule forever.
I’d like to have None of The Above on every ballot. And whomever loses to NOTA is barred from elected or appointed office permanently.
The CPC stupidly listened to the bought-and-paid-for Lieberal pundits. These pundits said be like Lieberal. Thus, the CPC hired the likes of Cory Hahn and other gender studies graduates. They allowed Liebrals to purchase CPC memberships and put Error O’Stoole at the helm. They shunned their support base and wooed the stuck-up snooty girls.
Now they want to blame PPC for their own ineptitude.
Conservatism in Canada is gone forever as over 62% of the electorate is left. The Trudeau dynasty is in full swing. Justin will remain in power until his oldest son assumes leadership. Thankfully I will be dead.
Canada is a socialist country full of socialists. Canada will always elect socialists except in exceptional instances where the libs have egregiously trespassed on good behavior (adscam for example), but will revert to its natural state of socialism and fascism eventually.
The left make up 70% of canada, give or take. NDP, LIBS, BLOQ, and some of the CPC no doubt. We will never even get a taste of conservatism or liberty staying in this country. Even Harper had to move left.
Westerners need to grow up, acknowledge these facts and take our fate into our own hands, or accept being ruled by Ottawa, Toronto and Quebec. This dream of electing a conservative govt in Canada is a fairy tale. It has never happened and never will. Break open your wallets and start donating and supporting separatist parties.
Enjoy the decline.
“Westerners need to grow up, acknowledge these facts and take our fate into our own hands, or accept being ruled by Ottawa, Toronto and Quebec…”
Agreed. And we will have to accept paying through the nose for it, too.
I actually don’t blame the SDA people as much as the fuked Cons party…We should have had Mackay or Lewis, NOT O’toole and Sheer.
The party is messed up.
Several comments ago you called SDA people “inbread”. For a pejorative that’s kind of up there.
when I am wrong I am wrong….
‘When I am wrong I am wrong’
That’s what’s missing in politics. Those guys are never wrong, it’s always the electorate that’s wrong for not getting behind their policies.
Well he’s not wrong about that or Lewis.
Mackay could have done worse. That guy would probably drool on himself partway through speeches. He was a total disaster Ivison had a column where an insider said that he simply doesn’t want to do the work.
Lewis was the only one with value. She’s also pretty hot. Honest to god, I wish O’Leary had been put in charge back in the day. He would not have won but he was the guy to set the CPC up for growth and long-term success.
Sorry, Unme. You only get one response out of me per thread… DARN! BROKE MY OWN RULE!!!
Did someone say “Mackay” ???
The sad thing about the Commie-lites winning is redistribution won’t add any seats to Alberta and BC. They will just gerrymander the existing seats within each province instead of adding 30 or so seats to the west and Ontario.
Thank you Kate. That is a great summary of my exact thoughts on the election and this party.
You guys are having a cow over this result when it is objectively THE BEST [likely] RESULT.
1) Trudeau has to be done. You don’t get to have all these tailwinds-son of The One, Orange Idiot of the South for contrast, lousy opposition, the massive success of MJ legalization, handling of COVID that contrasts well with the situation south of the border-and not only fail to gain a majority, but gain all of one (1) seat in an election you called. For no good reason. Inshallah, he will be replaced by the boring technocrat center-statist that is a natural fit for Canada. Prime Minister Carney comes to mind.
2) F(*& O’Toole, his platform, and his party. His platform was in critical areas the NDP platform of the ’70s. FTS. He might have been worse than Trudeau in some ways! If Scheer could not survive a *gain* of the vote share AND seats, there’s no way O’Toole is going to stick around after all his crap. I hope this also shortens the lifespan of the CPC and it can be replaced by something viable. If the Liberals replace Trudeau with someone boring, I don’t see what holds the CPC together.
That being said, the PPC is bad. They are just the Bernier show they haven’t even had an AGM. Their proposal to limit immigration is extremely anti-liberty. The Maverick Party also has a silly name but they are serious folk. And Kate is completely right: ‘Just not Ready’ was more flimsy Conservative ‘cleverness’ with no substance.
Agree with you here on most.
You can’t underestimate the power of ego and celebrity. Trudeau can’t go. Mark Carney really is just Ignatieff with a calculator. I can’t see him carrying the urban Toronto / Montreal women over 40. Concerningly he is a global statist with a brain.
Agree on the Mavericks. We need our own bloc.
I didn’t have a maverick candidate so crossed out Marxist from my Marxist-Leninist candidate. Tuning them into the Maverick-Leninist candidate.
They don’t make you use the $30 gold pencil. I brought a sharpie to vote.
Trudeau does have a death grip over ‘wine moms’ for sure, but there’s more to Canada than that. There’s more to Canada than Toronto for that matter. You can ring it up there all you want but that’s just winning already won seats but with bigger margins.
“Their proposal to limit immigration is extremely anti-liberty.”
Since when?
Since freedom of association-including freedom to hire who you want-was a critical part of liberty, which it always has been. See also ‘freedom of movement’. Immigration is also the ultimate economic supply side upper.
Since this dingbat is anti-PPC, I know for sure I did the right thing voting for them.
True conservatism.
“True conservatism” = rehashing the left’s old nostrum’s.
Put on another mask, slave.
People are not widgets. Appeals to abstract vagaries “immigration is liberty” sound great but ignore the negative, real world societal and economic consequences of mass immigration.
There are no negative societal or economic consequences of mass immigration. You’ve been crying and whining over this for 100 years and wrong every step of the way. It’s been nothing but a boon. Only thing keeping this place afloat. We need vastly more like 10X more immigration. Would disrupt Canada’s self-reinforcing dysfunction good.
Feel free to prove that with the uneducated cab drivers who hate Jews piling into this country (or what remains of it).
No nurses or doctors are coming in but I guess we don’t need those.
“No nurses or doctors are coming in”
They are. I had a doctor named Mohammed literally refer me to a specialist also named Mohammed once.
Nothing wrong with cab drivers. They can drive for Uber and Lyft too!
I find that adorable!
How long did he keep you waiting?
How many cab drivers does it take to build a bridge?
We had a merit-based immigration system that sort of worked. Useful people came in. Not anymore.
Good luck with that plethora of cab drivers to choose from.
You are an expert in obtuseness and non-sequitor and not much else.
Yeah, some of those Dr.Mohammeds are refusing to examine women below the waist.
Does not matter if the cab or uber driver can’t speak English properly. It does matter if the doctor can not speak English well enough to communicate with the patients. There have been instances where I did not understand them and vice versa. Waste of time and resources.
Good thing people can learn English.
I find it quaint when leftists trot out the old “freedom to hire who I want” trope as if they just binge watched multiple Milton Friedman videos to sound like their the biggest free marketeers on planet Earth.
How laughable.
And some are over examining women below the waist.
Doesn’t matter how ‘quaint’ you find it, it’s the truth.
What’s your address? I’m feeling like some freedom of movement coming on.
As I’ve said before and will say again: Canadians’ desire to vote pragmatically (read: the alleged fiscal conservative and not those silly social conservatives or actual conservatives) – whether it be Scheer or O’Toole or any of the other wimps in the past – has led people to this point.
The vote was split years ago and now we know nothing short of a nuclear holocaust will change that in this country.
Canadians are fine with a racist f@ggot who continues wasting money and squandering whatever good will this country has just so that China can remain on top (it’s not like people didn’t know that Justin LOVES China to bits).
The free stuff will last for a month or two before even the Liberals realise that you can’t get money where none is made.
So, everyone of all political stripes, enjoy the last few bits of reprieve you have before Justin doubles down on his promises to punish his enemies, censor all media, strip away the charity status of his ideological opponents, lock down the unvaccinated lepers and bleed the country dry.
Point fingers if it makes you feel better but I think we all knew what was coming and why.
I just posted on two sites:
Erin O’Toole’s – asking him to step down.
Pierre Poliveau’s – asking him to step up.
Aren’t you conservatives out there sick of milktoast leaders with no guts. Aren’t you sick of losing?
BRING MAX in
A Real Conservative….?? and pray tell, why we NEVER heard a Word from ANY of these so called Conservatives over the utter NAZI BS of the vid since Mar 2020….not 1 word…???
SCREW the CONS.
Pierre has been very quiet (sheepish?) re: jab mandates. Why is that?
I appreciate his hard hitting ways of going after the Turd, but freedom and liberty are being threatened.
Pierre Poilievre told anybody that want’s to hear that he is not interested in the job.
If his heart is not in it, he should stay away, as much as he is respected for his work.
You don’t want to force him, then be disappointed if he is not to your standard and call on him to quit.
You gotta hava guy that has fire in the belly, as the saying goes.
WE can clearly see the LEGACY of PM shitferbrains quasi Daddy.
Multi Cult – todays “diversity” has completely Changed the political landscape and firmly ensconced the LIBERAL party as the perennial winners in ANY Federal election. Pierres disgusting spawn, continuing that policy with fully open borders….just wait till Bidens Haitian horde comes…??
One Look @ Calgary NE (SkyView), CLEARLY tells the tale…
ALBERTANS need to wake up…Big time. Do we want our Industry utterly Shut down and destroyed…??? Cause that will literally turn this province into a WASTELAND of empty “barns” or are we willing to show some True Western COURAGE and leave this Filthy Rotten 3rd world shithole country.
Bring on a Provincial Election.!!:
THOSE of you within the WILD ROSE LEADERSHIP had better get your ENTIRE pile of shit together….cause It is TIME TO LEAVE
” firmly ensconced the LIBERAL party as the perennial winners in ANY Federal election.”
Uh…they got a minority. I’m a ’90s kid. I know what Liberal Domination looks like and this ain’t it.
“continuing that policy with fully open borders….just wait till Bidens Haitian horde comes”
Angry racist is angry.
If UnMind is happy, we have been proven correct.
The Liberals are firmly the party of urban Canada now. The part of Canada that is growing rapidly through immigration. Although the points made about Conservative strategy and campaign stupidity are valid, it is not clear that there is a path to unseating the Liberals now. In the next few years Canadians who value freedom are going to have to get serious. This isn’t a game. Trudeau wants to shut sites like the Rebel and SDA down, and control every bit of information accessible to Canadians. This is the next step. How can he be stopped?
He can’t.
Not unless China pulls the rug from under him.
We know who runs Canada.
I don’t see Trudeau sticking around. This was a disaster. There will be a contest to replace him. The obvious step is for us to participate in that contest and assist the Liberals in making the best choice possible.
The reason that the Dems/Liberals get to own urban centers and therefore the future is because the political right spent the 21st century going Full Retard and alienating all the people that really matter. The conservaderp parties get the cletuses of the world, their opponents get dominance.
For one, websites like this need to be hosted in another country to skirt the censorship laws, and not the US. As we”ve seen from others, web hosts there have deplatformed conservatives.
Posters and personalities need to use a VPN and a third party email (not from your service provider) when posting. Trudeau’s secret police are watching. Those are the minimal protection steps required. They can’t regulate websites hosted in Mexico, or Britain, or Japan…..
Dan
My SIL used to do that with gambling sites, when Boosch banned them, but the USA put pressure on the hosting country, and made things difficult
O’Toole thought he could win by essentially adopting the Liberal playbook. But if your campaign consists of simply mimicking the opposition, why not just join them? When two political leaders share the same basic premises but one comes across as inconsistent and uneasy with his platform, voters are going to pick the one who is most at home with those premises. And that leader is Justin.
Correct! Why vote for neo-liberal, when you can vote for the real thing?
Newfoundland and New Brunswick are bankrupt. Ontario is super broke and Quebec cannot survive without the Federal government propping it up with money from the rest of the country. Alberta is now broke as well and unable to keep everyone else afloat anymore. Canada and its Provinces owe a ridiculous amount of money. What sovereignty will the Liberals cede to China in order to keep the young socialists of Canada living in the only standard of life they’ve ever known for a little while longer?
All of it.
Canada goes to China and the people asked for it.
This fixation on China is part of the reason you aren’t winning and won’t win.
We should have been fixated on China a long time ago. They are the only ones who are winning and they’re doing it at everyone else’s expense.
China is neither here nor there. Doesn’t matter if they are ‘winning’ either.
The Chinese don’t like you, Unme.
Fixate on that.
The Canadian economy is on a downward spiral that the Spawn/Dipper/CPC/bloc/Greens own. Two years out, there will be a sovereign debt crises due to the NIRP/MMT-induced $0.50 Loonie. Capital has been fleeing since the Spawn’s first term. His NDP supported tax increases will accelerate that trend. The Spawn, if he hasn’t been replaced with the globalist green messiah Carney, will call another election and run on his “record”. O’Toole will insist that they can do a better job while maintaining all of the Spawn’s policies. Max will go to 20% popular support and the wheel on the bike goes round and round, round and…………
To all the moronic commentators here that blame vote splitting on the PPC please be aware that voting for the PPC was a vote for what we believe in and they are not the same values as what Trudeau and O’Toole were peddling. Also please note that two million voters stayed home for this election. Why? Because they were political niave and/or stupid. They could not or would not examine their own beliefs and align them with the party that most closely espoused those beliefs. On the political IQ scale Canadians fall well short of the moronic level. As an example we import oil from halfway round the world and leave Canadian oil in the ground, imbecilic or what?
Turtle Island chose Science over Holocaust Denial. Clearly, raising taxes prevents the pollutant CO2 from rising and destroying our planet. The Science is Settled!
An additional goodie from last night. More brown people coming into Canada to replace the racist genocidal white colonizers.
When Doug Ford won in Ontario, it was not because he ran on a progressive platform.
When Jason Kenney won in a landslide in Alberta it was not because he ran on a progressive platfrom.
The fact that both these hacks quickly became progressive is irrelevant. When they ran on solid conservative platforms they won big.
If we can get a leader that will stand up unashamedly for true conservative values and policies, – and treats the media like the enemy they are – we will win federally in a landslide.
Bait and switch seems to be the order of the day. The bad news is that we are down to shit sandwiches and are running out of bread but the good news is that there is plenty of shit.
Your first two points, maximum yes.
Once their knees become week, they slide into nothingness.
The proletariat does not care much for that.
“Their proposal to limit immigration is extremely anti-liberty.”
No it’s not.
“The Maverick Party also has a silly name but they are serious folk.”
Seriously mistaken.
Mark Steyn heads his column today by quoting “My great compatriot Kate McMillan…” and linking to this post.
https://www.steynonline.com/11705/the-long-term-express-check-in
Bravo Kate!
Sad but true. Steyn is always a step ahead of what’s happening.
I haven’t yet counted the number of seats in Ontario that the PPC “stole” from the CPC, but hopefully it’s a lot. Let’s face it, losing is they only way they’ll ever learn.
The PPC vote was relatively weak in Ottawa and the inner GTA, getting less than 5% of the vote in most of these 50-odd ridings. But they won more than 5% in almost all of the rest of Ontario’s 70 or so ridings, and more than 10% in around a dozen of them.
The PPC are generally stronger in traditionally conservative areas, naturally, but also won around 10% of the vote in old, industrial-left bastions like Windsor, Hamilton, Niagara, and much of Northern Ontario. Not even the prairie metro areas voted for the PPC at that clip.
Has Windsor unexpectedly replaced Calgary (and Quebec City in French Canada) as the urban heartland of rightwing nationalism in Canada? Going by percentage of rightwing votes (for the PPC, and if applicable for the Maverick Party and Free Party as well), maybe so.