A couple of nice charts in here on all cause mortality.
This decentalized mindset served Alberta well during the C19 response. Public health regulated lightly and despite a few significant missteps, none were fatal. Public health objectives were presumably met and that afforded a quiet glide path to exit a non-pandemic pandemic.
Enter Ontario, the problem child of the Canadian confederation. Its public response has been stubbornly slow, remarkably destructive and inflexible. By any reasonable measure, outcomes have been consistently poor.
Read the whole thing.
Aw that ‘group think’ where our politicians pass the buck so that they themselves abdicate their leadership roles.
Damn Assholes!
“A small vocal group, fronted by the murky @masks4canada, protested in the 10’s, but the public ignored them.”
Calgary CTV news didn’t ignore them, it was a leading story for a few days, reporting on the big protests by people who want everyone to keep masking. Oh right, CTV…
But they ignored all the other antilockdown and anti mask demonstrations which were not led by a doctor who gave the Liberal party $20000.
NDP actually. Part of Notleys bunch.
Analysis mostly wrong and failing to deal with the fundamental differences between Ontario and Alberta.
oh yeah, you’re right, I noticed that too… the primary fundamental difference being most Ontarians have their heads shoved firmly up their own assholes.
Another asshole. Tell me, would you also go by the name UnoMe? So just fuck off and die.
I can’t be the only one in Saskatchewan wondering if this author noticed that Alberta was pretty heavy handed about covid up until recently. For the last 6 months I was looking at Kenney’s Conservative government and thinking WTH happened to Alberta.
A better comparison might be Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Similar population, population density, land mass and demographics. Saskatchewan had the fewest restrictions in Canada and had about half as many deaths as heavily restricted, locked down and vaccine passport Manitoba.
Which leaves me to wonder if maybe mask mandates, at least in part be the cause of the Covid 19 spread.
I couldn’t even come up with a reasonable guess. We did have similar mask mandates as Manitoba.
The usual factors for killer covid are age, health and obesity but Sask and Man. are about the same. Seasonality is also what determined the majority of the waves but Sask. and Manitoba have the same weather patterns. I assume our medical protocols and procedures are very similar.
Is it possible that being more open helped Saskatchewan residents become naturally immune through infection faster than Manitoba, resulting in fewer deaths?
They do. Lockdowns spread covid it’s pretty clear. Most people get covid at home from close contacts from family. Locking people up with family for extended periods guarantees more spread.
You could be on to something. I’ve long believed that wearing a mask while infected drives up the viral load and makes people more ill, faster.
I may move back to Saskatchewan yet.
Maple Creek. I consider it more often, lately.
Indeed. The mask mandate went from September to the end of June. If 10 months of doing it didn’t help, why continue?
Regular treatments were denied to patients due to fears of overloading hospitals – which never happened – and people did die as a result. My aunt Jean was one, denied her cancer treatments early during the covid panic.
Truth is, there was a drone picture of the premier and a bunch of muckety-mucks living large and dining on a rooftop patio, in a big group with no masks. It’s as bad as Gavin Newsom and the French Laundry. That didn’t poll well at all.
More…
https://threadreaderapp.com/user/DonaldWelsh16
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No images in the article so less HTML breaking it up.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/07/top-scientists-remain-puzzled-covid-spreads/
Prof Jefferson gets the last.word.
“The only thing the virus seems to obey is Farr’s Law (which states epidemics rise and fall in a symmetrical bell curve),” he said. “I am not convinced the path of the pandemic has much to do with our interventions.”
And Toronto assholes are the ones lecturing knuckle dragging Albertans about opening up. We need an asteroid to hit that city big time.
I hope it hits dead centre at Nathan Phillips Square and leaves no survivors. Far too many Toronto clowns are fleeing the city and bringing their brand of nonsense to the rural areas of Ontario to the dismay of the locals.
Maybe it’ll split and half lands in Vancouver. What you describe about what’s happening in Toronto is what’s going on in Lotusland. Many of them head to the remote parts of B. C. Far too many of them are in the Fort St. John area.
This is still the province where pastors were arrested and church buildings confiscated.
Yes I was thinking that too.
And if Red Rachel gets back into power, watch the Orwellian course correction.
I thought, short term, about Alberta again.
But, like informed consent on vaccines, I choose to wait and see about the 3 to 5 year developments.
This is the same province where pastors were arrested and church buildings confiscated.
This isn’t a duplicate comment, but the system says it is.
Hmm–guess it was a duplicate!
Is this author in the same Alberta,I know?
Alberta’s population is 3 times lower than Ontario’s population. Alberta’s population equals the population of Toronto and one of its suburbs.
The Communist Republic of Toronto has public transportation that includes subways, trams, regional trains, all of which tend to be very crowded.
While we would have loved to see Doug Ford, Ontario’s premier, to tell the public health crazies to go fuck themselves, if he did that, he would have been crucified by the media and likely overthrown through violent means by the left.
If the opposition (NDP) had the power in Ontario, we would have had a full lockdown for 16 months and mandatory vaccines would have been imposed 6 months ago.
John70 – much of Alberta’s population is located in a few large centres – Edmonton, Calgary, Red Deer, etc. And for both Edmonton and Calgary, transit is an issue. In Calgary, the most infections have been in the northeast quadrant which happens – not coincidentally – to be the area where most immigrants live – often in multi-generational households – and where the workers must be physically present at their jobs. Special efforts were made to take both testing and vaccination centres into that quadrant, along with outreach to the various ethnic communities to try to help them through this nasty virus.
The rest of the province is seriously rural, and never should have been subject to the strictures placed on the larger cities.
Further, as Dr Hinshaw correctly noted, locking down everything to prevent the spread of Covid has serious but unintended consequences. Early on, we heard of a couple of young men died because “routine” procedures were shut down. I have a friend who lost mother and uncle (in Ontario) not to Covid, but because of Covid. In their ’90s and facing what amounted to solitary confinement in order to “save” them, his relatives just said “no”. Sadly, I think – though am not sure – that they weren’t allowed much comfort from relatives in their last days.
We’re seniors and were rather shocked to discover – back in March 2020 – that, due to our ages, we were seriously at risk. We’re both still working, though not always – in spouse’s instance – for pay. Took precautions early on and also did get the jab – though do wonder at times if will have repercussions next ‘flu season. But I have seen too much damage done to the economy (which does involve real peoples’ livelihoods and futures) to want any more shutdowns to “save Granny”. This is Granny speaking: open up everything, get back to normal living, and let Granny take her own precautions.
So the smoke has rolled into my area of Manitoba again. And guess what? The plain masks don’t work on smoke. So how exactly do they work on viruses?
Asking for a friend….
Damn, Justin…I am still waiting for the mask to help with dog farts.
Ain’t happening.
Excess deaths tell a story if you look. I got looking at excess deaths when I read a stats canada report that stated that excess deaths were no longer being driven by the virus. Their conclusion was that long lockdowns were driving excess mortality for most of 2020. What I don’t understand is how are people not up in arms about this? The lockdown potentially killed more people than covid did, but the government gets a free pass. Why? Because they have men with guns.
People aren’t up in arms about it because the MSM doesn’t report this type of information so they are actually clueless.
The majority of people get their news/information from Facebook, Twitter and and main stream media publications (online, print, or cable) which means they don’t get the truth. The masses have no clue that this entire thing has been crafted by big pharma and the global oligarchs.
Total mortality, all causes (including cancer, heart, accidents, etc) is the only reliable metric. It bypasses all political manipulation; the person is either alive or dead. Every theory about Covid must be tested against this data.
Here is cumulative data from 29 European countries:
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Here is US data (scroll down the page)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Missing from this data are bad flu years 10 to 20 years ago. They were as bad as 2nd wave of Covid but nothing was closed.