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    1. Not as long as the Greens are kingmakers.

      Most of their followers seem to think that an ecology is a static system that never, ever changes. After all, it was like that last year, why shouldn’t it be the same this year? And humanity lives outside of nature in their world.

  1. “The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe.”

    I stopped there.

    Get back to me when the media is willing to admit that their antifa heroes are the ones setting those fires, and Gov. Newsom is willing to do something about it—or is replaced by someone who is.

    1. From a DM article this morning …

      “This comes as the National Weather Service (NWS) revealed a staggering 87 percent of all wildfires that have ravaged America this year were caused by humans.”

      I grew up in a country, where people had respect for the land, and conducted themselves in a civilized manner. That included NOT starting fires. NOT burning down your neighbors homes. I grew up in an era where Smoky Bear warned us how to be careful with fire. Now, the State is filled with people who have no respect for anything … including themselves. Masses of immigrants who have brought their disrespect for our nation, and our people with them. The tone and tenor of my State is disrespect and destruction. Everything is cynical. Everyone is a nihilist.

      But in their zeal to ascribe EVERY fire to “global warming” … my State has systematically IGNORED the actual cause of fire … Humans. Go ahead … name ONE prosecution for setting one of the many thousands of devastating Fires in CA over the last 30 years? They’re as rare as an FBI Agent charged with misconduct.

  2. Residential housing located in steep forrested mountains is part of the problem. Not allowing controlled burns is another.

    Forest fires in CA is not a new phenomenon. Drought and high wind has always been present.

    If the green fools who run the state and their voters can’t figure that out….

    1. Yes. When you see rebuilt neighbourhoods after a major fire that incorporate a lot of local greenery in the landscaping, right up to the new houses and businesses, you know that they’ve learned nothing.

  3. This article is in essential agreement, with some elaboration.
    sorry if the mentions of ‘climate change’ offends:
    […]
    “But fires aren’t necessarily surprising,” said Lake, of the forest service. Before European colonization, 4.5m to nearly 12m acres of California would burn annually, researchers have estimated. Most of those fires burned less intensely and many were set intentionally. For thousands of years, hundreds of tribes across California used small controlled burns to clear out fire-fueling vegetation, renew the soil and prevent bigger, runaway wildfires. Indigenous people burned throughout the year.

    “They worked in partnership with nature, when lightning strikes occurred – they let fires burn,” said Hankins, the Plains Miwok fire expert.

    European settlers disregarded and outlawed the ecological and cultural practice, however. Starting in the 1880s, the US adopted a policy of putting out all fires to protect homes and timber, fining Indigenous people for burning their own lands. California’s forests became unnaturally dense, with overcrowded trees competing for increasingly scarce water.
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    Climate change further degraded the landscape: tree species like the Sequoia, which over thousands of years had adapted to not only survive fires but thrive with them, have been less and less able to withstand progressively hotter, more extreme fires. In tandem, warmer, drier weather and a landscape deprived of fire are wrecking the region. […]
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/12/california-oregon-washington-fires-explained-climate-change

    1. Ah yes. Everything was lovely when the natives lived in harmony with nature. Then the white people showed up and everything they touched turned to cinders. That about right?

      If you’re going to blame white people for everything that’s wrong with the world, at least get a few new canards.

      I agree it’s mostly white people setting those fires.

      Firebugs who get a sexual thrill from arson.

      Antifas trying to make President Trump look bad.

      Eco-terrorists who have a problem with humanity in general.

      Globalists who consider it morally wrong for proles to own land or live in more than one room in a dangerous urban anthill, and hire the antifas and eco-terrorists to do the dirty work of destroying thriving white communities that stand in the way of the construction of their next palatial “country cottage.”

    2. The Indians burned forests to encourage forage for ungulates, not some mystical ‘partnership with nature’.

      1. and to renew the berry patches when they got overgrown. When successive burns and harvests of berries dropped too low, the village would move.

        See the published books “The Downfall of Temlahem” and “Men of Medeek” for how this applied to the Gitksan of north-western BC.

    3. The first occupiers used fire extensively as a management practice both here in Canada and the US. They burned the forest and the plains. They understood what regrowth meant to the animals they hunted. Over mature dead forest or grassland isn’t good for a lot of wildlife.

  4. Why stop there? With the “natural” or “noble native” burning of our forests … to “save our forests”. How fucking DUMB are we? Why not just salt the land and make sure NOTHING ever grows back, eh? Then we’d have no more fires. That’d make us all safe, eh?

    Sorry … I am SO weary of the “fires are natural” nonsense. So are earthquakes … but we don’t capitulate to earthquake … we use science, math, and experience to design stronger, more resilient buildings. We CAN both preserve our forests and not burn them down, like some savage native who hadn’t even invented a written language! We can both LIVE in the Forests and MANAGE the forests. We can thin trees, and cut the dead beetle-infested timber. We don’t have to “harvest” everything … we can drop some for soil nutrient enrichment. We need to stop with this all-or-nothing nonsense.

    We have rampant forest fires now … because of the … ‘all-or-nothing’ … environmentalism. We have rampant forest fires because … they’re wonderfully frightening advertisements for “global warming”. We have these rampant forest fires now … because of an “us or them” public policy of EXTREMISM.

    We need a return to intelligent BALANCE in managing a natural environment which includes man. Man living in the forests. Man recreating in the forests. A modern, intelligent, scientific, advanced, mankind. The forests have not responded well to eco-politics. So, it’s time for all these so-called believers-in-science to start using science to properly manage our forests. And just stop with this “hands-off” … “natural” … do-nothing nonsense.

  5. Use it or lose it
    “Status in Canada
    The largest recorded mountain pine beetle epidemic occurred in the 1990s and 2000s in British Columbia. Over 18 million hectares of forest were impacted to some degree, resulting in a loss of approximately 723 million cubic metres (53%) of the merchantable pine volume by 2012. The epidemic peaked in 2005: total cumulative losses from the outbreak are projected to be 752 million cubic metres (58%) of the merchantable pine volume by 2017, when the epidemic will have largely subsided in British Columbia.”

  6. The USFS has essentially practiced “stand and stare” forest management in the North West since the greens exploited the Endangered Species Act to great benefit through the Ninth Circuit Court ( for around the last 35 years). “Let it burn” management is also a green piety. The reality is that if you don’t manage a forest, mother nature will and she is a harsh mistress.

    The article didn’t mention the impact that Clinton’s Roadless Strategy has on the ability to fight fires nor did it mention the litigation that will prevent most of the proposed measures to manage the hazards.

  7. Forest fuel build-up was the cause of the Okanagan Mountain Park fire of 2003. I had one resident tell me the brush and dead trees in the park were as high as his saddle riding through it. So, the same in California today. Fire suppression creates an enormous fuel load. At the inquiry following the OMP fire, I recommended coniferous trees be banned in urban and interface areas. Where residents want shade, they should plant (and water) deciduous trees. Also, it would be a small alteration to the building code to have new house builds include a kicker sprinkler on the roof line. Finally, surrounding towns with pasture watered with clean sewage effluent (like Vernon), orchards and vineyards watered by overhead sprinklers and golf courses would go a long way to protecting them. The 2016 Fort MacMurray fire was the classic case of building right up to the tree-line. Why do people do this? Insane.

  8. I caught something on another news feed yesterday…I think, apparently they found a charred body at a spot in one of the Cali fires, a spot that they think, was the point of ignition. So yeah, I would bet there are enough loony idiots out there who would start a forest fire. Not just delinquent fire bugs, but radical greens, to fan the flames, (npi) of climate change. I wouldn’t put it past BLM and Antifa either, if they thought it might advance their radical agenda’s. At least with this fire starter, karma fried his (_!_) No loss there as far as I’m concerned. Unless the fire was started to possibly cover up a murder, it wouldn’t be the first time. Oh and yeah, Trump did suggest they police and clean their forests. Which is probably why they won’t or didn’t, TDS and orangeman bad, same as refusing to use chloxiquaraquine (No idea how to spell that one)
    Heck, they even shut down and disappeared those doctors, that as a group, recommended using it.

      1. pronounce it as though you’re in a conga line. “Hyyyy-droy, Chloro- Quin-NEEN! Hyyyy-droy, Chloro- Quin-NEEN!”

  9. I question the quote, “Indigenous people would just let the lighting strike fires burn”. Um… How could they stop those fires?

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