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Dateline: Toronto….
***BREAKING STORY***
Be sure to get your Saturday Star for an explosive expose! The Star has just learned where the source of public money comes from. See how conservatives and ‘Big Business’ fund government policy. Oh the humanity.
Sorry Susan.
I want to talk “taxpayers”….
…Because, you idiot, THAT’S WHERE PUBLIC MONEY COMES FROM!!
Spoken like a true leftard.
Latter is inadequate term for all citizens.
Indeed. “Wastrel” would be more appropriate.
So Susan Deladork’s private income is now “public money”? Excellent – what’s your PIN, Suze?
Some people just don’t get it. Even if you are living on the government teat you are paying taxes. If you buy a loaf of bread at a convenience store, in addition to the sales tax, you are paying a small percentage of the following taxes
1)the corporate income tax that the store owner pays on his profits
2) the personal income taxes that his employees pay
3) the corporate income taxes that the bakery pays on its profits
4) the personal taxes that the bakery employees pay on their income
5) the taxes on the electricity that the bakery uses to heat the ovens
6) the excise and sales taxes on the fuel for the truck to deliver the bread to the store
7) the income taxes the farmer pays on farm profits
8) the sales taxes the farmer pays for seed, fertilizer and equipment
If you buy anything you are a taxpayer.
Changing the term from taxpayers’ money to public money is an attempt to deceive voters into believing that it is not their money that politicians are spending.
Today we will decide.
The Liberals say cutting back the civil service will affect our everyday life.
We need to learn from those before us. Detroit has voted in Democrat (Liberal) governments for 50 years straight. Decades of borrowing have come home in Detroit. Many of their civic workers have been sent home without pay or pensions. The bond holders who lent them the money now call the shots. Their politicians and taxpayers now have NO say on the disbursement of tax dollars.
ONTARIO is the most heavily indebted jurisdiction in North America and the Liberals are promising more of the same.
Are we Ontarians adults or will we give the Liberals time to finish us off?
I hate to agree with her but she is correct…. Taxpayer is a completely inadequate term for all citizens. It can only apply to those of us, 50% or so, who actually pay taxes and contribute to the public money coffers. The rest of my fellow citizens are government sanctioned freeloading parasites.
And she is correct that “taxpayer money” quickly becomes “public money” when a politician uses it to buy votes on programs designed to maintain the parasites.
The “public” has no moral lawful claim on any private property or personal productivity – except what it can extort via the threat of violence and incarceration through mafioso governing cartels enabled by Bolshy thugs like Delacour and her Lib-left brown shirt presstitutes.
No, Suzie cream cheese, let’s NOT talk dissolute parasitic public entitlement, let’s be morally stoic and talk about a governing structure that lives within its means, protects private property and personal productivity, has the moral imperative to abandon extortion and usury as a prime operating modus and sends degenerate bolshy thugs who want to normalize state theft/extortion crawling back into the slave-state ooze from whence they came.
Let’s do that instead Suzie – or is that asking too much of a hronically deranged partisan hack?
If people are passing the hat around and everybody throws in $20 but you take out $40 and throw in $20 technically you are pitching in. In reality you’re not.
You can’t take tax money and buy something and then claim you pay taxes. All you’re doing is returning some of the money you took out. When I take my my pay cheque and buy something I pay taxes.
I have been working since 1950 (if you consider going door-to-door selling little items my mother sewed to get food on the table – no welfare for us). I started to pay FICA in 1954 working for the park department. I paid income taxes, fica, and later medicare for 60 years. Never once did I not pay. I even had to pay in the Army to defend this country. I am mortified! This year, through careful control of my spending and the use of an old retired tax accountant, I find that I got away scott-free, thanks to Oklahoma’s almost total social security deduction and putting my money in munis. He also told me that I have been overpaying for years – I did my taxes myself Of course, I pay a gadzillion other taxes – property, fire district , state and city sales taxes, an in kind tax for internet purchases, energy taxes, Medicare taxes, BCBS medical, etc. I am now, by the definition of those who only have myopic knee jerk, programmed reactions, that I am now a bum. Hallejuah! I’m a bum! (look it up on google.)
Captcha problems.
If I give you four apples and then demand one apple back, then I’ve only given you three apples. Pretending I *actually* gave you four is a fiction.
And this is what most government can’t wrap their heads around. Government workers do not add to the wealth of the country. Once upon a time (a very long time ago) the only government workers that actually added to a country’s wealth was the army because they would take over lands and allow those without land in their country to move to the newly conquered territory, farm it, make it productive and pay taxes to the government. Sadly, this is not the case anymore.
Socialism at it’s finest.
Actually I think just saying “taxpayers” is an inadequate term that doesn’t convey an accurate enough reality of who is actually paying for present day government spending.
We – and they should be saying “present and FUTURE taxpayers”.
“Paid for by the Government of Ontario”=”Paid for by you, the taxpayer.”
Like!!
How about taxslaves? It embodies present and future taxpayers.
No Susan, it isn’t public money unless I as one of the public get to dip into it and spend it as I please, just like the politicians do.
Bottom line, there is no public, the word is a mythnomer.
Idiot-is wholly inadequate term for this socialist / fascist.
Taxes are taxes.
Unless we are all wrong, it does appear that the various government unions run Ontario.
No need to apologize, Susan, you are a broken record. Especially because “broken” is a term for something that doesn’t work.
Well, she certainly sound likes something – and a broken record isn’t what comes to mind.
Poor Suzie Red Boots, things are just so complicated these days, hard to know public money from taxpayers’ money. The Unionistas might be able to set things straight for her.
No wonder the dumb airhead wasn’t elected.
Gord, now that I have some caffeine in me let me try again. Everyone who buys anything is paying taxes, but those of who have an income are making a positive contribution to the pot while those people on the dole are making a negative contribution taking out more than they put in. Every person who is moved from the welfare rolls to the ranks of the employed is transformed from taker to a giver.
In his general theory of economics Keynes proposed (but didn’t prove) that government spending has a multiplier effect of 1.65, so for every $1 spent $1.65 of wealth is created. If it is true that government putting money into the economy is a stimulant, then is the opposite not also true, that government taking money out of the economy by taxes is a depressant with a multiplier effect?
Sigh. Inane comments like that usually come just before saying that “I don’t mind paying higher taxes to maintain essential government services.” My response is to ask the leftard who says that just what he (she) thinks his real marginal tax rate is? In Ontario, assuming you spent 100% of your income, the government (federal. provie and local) would end up with 60%/65% of it! Well, responds the leftard, “Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.” That’s an old line from Oliver Wendell Holmes, but those who quote it never mention that when he said that, the US income tax rate was 10%. I have no problem paying 10% in taxes for a civilized society, either. But when you’re paying 65% to a useless, corrupt, incompetent and metastatizing socialist bureaucracy, then that’s a HUGE FREAKING PROBLEM!!!
A war was once fought over the principle of “no taxation without representation”. One of the great problems we have today is the number of people who get representation without really getting taxed. If anything the more you pay in tax’s the less say you get on anything.
Remember, that Suzie Cream Cheeze has been the Red Star’s resident scribbler in Ottawa for more than two decades. That’s longer than the duration of most Senators and all MPs. She’s got the Beltway Syndrome like nobody’s business, far more than most of the resident denizens. She’s about as out-of-touch as it gets.
Remember too her plaint a few months back that she keeps writing about Shiny Pony on the excuse that this is what the public wants.
She is either manipulative or a dolt. Way to go, Susan…:)
“Government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods.”
– H.L. Mencken
I addition to Mencken, might I add that someone once stated that there are only two kinds of money: my money and your money.
My money is sacrosanct and to be used only by me as I see fit.
Your money may be expended in any manner hat I see fit.
Yeah well, Haynard Keynes wuz a funny boy (gay) and such folk having no issue/offspring are totally indifferent to the impact of their theories on future generations.
FDR was alleged to have followed Keynes theory but his new deal just prolonged/deepened the Great Depression.
Hitler et al did unawares followed Keynes formula of massive government spending and brought Germany out of the Depression and then subsequently the rest of the world.
Susan Delacourt / Please hand in your pen and paper and step into my office / You are Fired!
Oh yes, the term public money has such a nice neutral ring about it as if it just comes from out there, somewhere and doesn’t really belong to anyone while taxpayer money has such a personal feel, like they’re stealing it out of mine and your pockets. No wonder the left prefer the term public. Hey bimbo there is only one source of public/government money and it comes from the tax payer.
Her imaginary friend Don Burroughs told her to say that.
She could be on to something; may I recommend instead taxpayers and taxsuckers?
Could someone please ask her to explain where this ‘public’ money comes from?
What a moron. Presumably by “public” she is using the term as in “public parks” and “public restrooms” (a look at the latter makes one hope there’s a clean pay toilet nearby). Based on her use of “public”, it means that I should be able to go to any government office and demand some of my “public” money.
I prefer to use the term “parasite” or “useless eater” for individuals such as this statist moron. What’s needed is a graduated vote which is a positive function of the logarithm of the taxes one pays. This wouldn’t deprive anyone of their vote; just that the votes of the parasites would count for nothing. The logarithmically scaled vote would prevent the emergence of a plutocracy as having $1 billion would only give one 9 votes whereas paying taxes of $100K would give one 5 votes. Paying no taxes would give one 0 votes. This is a possible solution to how to deal with the parasite class in a democracy without having to resort to more brutal means. Guess that means that reserve Indians don’t get a voice until they start paying taxes; again, a solution to the vote early and often problem and a very large number x 0 is still zero. Also, snivel servants should either not be allowed to vote or their vote should be worth nothing given that they are clearly in the parasite class.
Under your system, Loki, if one pays zero tax then they get -1 votes (the log of 0 is -1). Not saying it’s a bad idea, but watch your math.
It is not true that government spending has a stimulative effect on the economy. Government doesn’t “put money into the economy” unless it prints new bills, which is inflationary (this may help reduce unemployment, which makes it look like it’s a “stimulus”). If government doesn’t print money, then it’s either taxing or borrowing, and both of those take money from one part of the economy (the payer) and give it to another (the government).
Some government spending on goods and services (like paving the roads) is useful, to be sure. Some spending on necessary government services (police and courts) shouldn’t be used in any public-private comparison. But much government spending goes to people who don’t produce anything, and that is a drain on the economy.
A person on welfare might collect $10,000 while putting $0 back into the economy, which is bad enough (but blame economic policies that push people onto welfare by killing jobs). But a bureaucrat might collect $50,000 or $100,000 (or more) while his activities subtract from the economic total, so that’s a lot worse. The catch is to figure out which bureaucrats need to go. Most of those in regulatory agencies are top of the list, along with the “department of industry” or whatever it’s called whose function is to dish out subsidies.
Contrast this with private spending, which goes almost entirely to productive activities. Most government spending is a drain on the economy, not a stimulus.
In order to stimulate the economy, the first things that need to be done are:
– streamline the tax system to get rid of the complexity
– deregulate as much as possible
– end subsidies to business and other organizations
Everyone, including those on welfare pay taxes. All utility bills and consumer products are taxed(GST/PST)-gas, liquor/beer, and tobacco products have the highest hidden taxes in addition to GST/PST taxes. The only items that are not taxed, are second hand products bought from Kijiji or Craigslist (except used vehicles-taxed at registration) and of course drugs and other black market items.
Anyone on welfare or government assistance is making the same contribution to the government take as a child that receives an allowance from their parents.
That process is called redistribution not wealth creation. In that example the spender didn’t create the wealth, they took over the discretionary role from the wealth creator. The result is that the ones that put the effort into creating the value do not recieve any benefit for their labor…. We call that slavery.