80.97% as of 10:00….
I’m sorta like that gal in Texas, that abided by the law and left her piece in the car and had her parents shot execution style.
I probably have the prowess of FREE and probably much more experience….which meant squat when the bad guys arrived and my stuff was locked down.
Yeah, the hand-wringers keep yapping about statistics (cherry-picked) but carefully avoid the inconvenient truth that most gun-crimes/violent crimes occur in “gun-free zones”.
I celebrate the expansion of the black bear range to include my region…..C68 allows maintaining an unsecured firearm and unsecured ammo in areas where dangerous wild-life is present.
Hi Derek, it is not the difference in value. I have read a little bit about self-defence trials on the gun blogs from the States and one of the criteria used by the court is the ‘recoverability’ of the thing being stolen. If there is a reasonable chance that your property can be identified and returned to you by the police then it is unreasonable for you to shoot the thief provided the thief is not a direct threat to your health. A lawnmower can be recovered, converting a pile of ashes back into your house and all your possessions is not possible. You have to use ‘reasonable’ force that is appropriate to the circumstance. You are allowed a ‘defence of necessity’ in order to preserve life, under English Common Law.
Let’s say you’ve picked up a hitchhiker who now wants to steal your car at knifepoint and you have a gun. In scenario A no one else is in the car and you’re in civilization, the car is insured hence it is recoverable, the reasonable thing to do is to let him have it and call a cab to the police station to file a report. In scenario B, you’re on a lonesome road in a blizzard, your infant is sleeping in the back seat and that hitchhiker wants to kick you out in the cold with no parka and no cell phone. Now two lives are at risk, so it is necessary to use ‘reasonable’ force to prevent him from taking your car in order to protect your life and your child’s.
The word ‘reasonable’ shows up a lot in self-defence cases. Be reasonable and you’ll be acquitted, be unreasonable and you’ll be convicted.
By the way, the question really should end ‘to protect your home.’ Property is too broad a description, it can be a stick of gum or a multimillion dollar family farm or a factory. Perhaps the question was deliberately worded to allow for future misinterpretation.
oops, turned the question around in my head. The question should be
‘Do you have the right to use a gun to protect your home?’
By the way, anyone breaking into my house had better run when he hears me slapping the magazine in and then racking the slide.
Some time ago, in the middle of the night, our neighbor had his door kicked in by a perp who was unaware the house was occupied. Of course our neighbor’s shells were stored apart from his gun, but the sound of his pump action shot gun and the cold steel on the perps temple in the pitch dark produced the desired result; he was on his knees pretty quick. I doubt the perp ever did get those pants clean and our neighbor no longer stores gun and ammo separately.
I believe that many Libs know very well that gun ownership and the right to defend property with one deters criminals from home invasions, especially when someone is in the home.
For many of them who refuse to own or use a firearm, they more than likely don’t want to be the only soft targets in a community, thus insisting that all become soft targets so that they aren’t singled out.
It’s the motto of the left, sharing in the misery and stupidity along with your money.
Why is it that the hard left loons at the CBC who are convinced Harper is going to turn the country into a dictatorship want to have the state take away your right to self defence?
They screech about him and a police state, yet don’t want people to have any right to self defence.
If they actually are concerned about a police state, why do they want to hand the police and the state more power?
It is absurd, as usual.
long post, but look at some of the key points in the article and see how they apply to you…and what consider what kind of article might have been written have happened if she hadn’t been armed ? then recall that this scenario was played out over 3 million reported times last year…and the liebrals don’t want you to know that there were all of those crimes prevented because it skews their ‘crime is going down’ fake statistics…as in ‘reported crime is going down’ because people don’t even bother calling property crimes in since they know nothing will be done anyway.
Mom Runs Burglars Off with Gun
Updated: Thursday, 09 Feb 2012, 10:04 AM CST
Published : Wednesday, 08 Feb 2012, 10:55 PM CST
DAMALI KEITH
Reporter
HOUSTON – A couple of burglars chose the wrong woman to pick on.
They came sneaking into her house, and she sent them running out. Perhaps they didn’t count on the woman fighting back, but that’s just what she did.
The mother of two was getting her 10-year-old son ready for school when the two bad guys broke in. She grabbed a gun and came face-to-face with not one but two intruders inside her Huffman home.
“It was scary,” she said.
She’s still shaken up, so she doesn’t want her identity revealed.
It was broad daylight, 7:30 a.m., and the deer that are always outside the family’s home were not the only ones out.
“We have trees and animals. You never think there’s someone watching you,” she said. “They had to have been watching because my 17-year-old had just left and I heard breaking glass.”
Her 17-year-old son had left for school and her husband for work. She was home with her 10-year-old son, her 4-pound Maltese and 200-pound English Mastiff. Turns out the burglars closed the Maltese in the washing machine and locked the Mastiff in the bathroom.
“I put him in the closet. I said no matter what you, do not leave,” she said of her son.
“She said stay here, no matter what, until the cops come get you,” her son said.
“I could hear people moving around. We don’t really own guns,” the mother added
Then she remembered her dad had given her son a .22 rifle.
“So I picked up a gun, and it was a BB gun, and I started to think we’re in trouble.”
But this mother was determined to protect her 10-year-old son. She found the rifle and went looking for the intruders in her home.
“The (front) door was open. They were bringing stuff in and out. I stopped right here (in the breakfast area before the living room) and I’m just listening and in walks this guy right into my living room,” she said.
“I started calling 911. I called five times. They kept hanging up on me,” the 10-year-old said.
“Every time, they (911 dispatchers) said we’ll transfer you, then he would get disconnected because they were transferring him to our precinct,” the mom said.
With her 10-year-old son in the closet frantically calling 911, mom found a burglar standing on her fireplace, stealing her flat screen TV.
“So I put the gun up and I’m going to shoot him. His back is to me and I realized I can’t shoot a man in the back,” she said.
She was obviously much more considerate of him than he was of her. A second burglar appeared out of the game room yelling she had a gun. The gun went off.
“It was very horrifying when she shot. It was very scary because I didn’t know if she shot the gun or if the robbers shot the gun,” the 10-year-old said.
Turns out it was his mom who fired. The bullet went through a candle and it’s holder on the wall.
The burglars bolted from the house. After about 25 minutes of trying to call 911, deputies arrived to investigate a crime that this community is not used to seeing.
“It’s a very nice family neighborhood. The lots have to be at least an acre. A lot of horses here,” said Capt. Jon Moore with the Harris County Sheriff’s Office.
The mother of two said the two burglars appeared to be in their early 20s. It does not appear they were shot, and this family said they will not stop enjoying their country home.
“We have trees and animals. This is our home. They’re not chasing us out,” the mom said. “I know that I’m safe now. We have taken precautions. If somebody comes in again they won’t be walking out this time.”
YAY! Another useless and misleading internet poll for the self-selecting!
Your tax dollars at work, baby!
82% for the Yes side now. The liberal elite in their ivory towers must be cowering with fear now that us mere peasents and serfs are not yielding our inalienable right to self-defense to their totalitarian ideas.
Heres a link …not the original though.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2011/05/21/the-gun-is-civilization-by-maj-l-caudill-usmc-ret/
oops…looks like this is the original and the Major was miss-accredited…doh!
http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/why-the-gun-is-civilization/
80.97% as of 10:00….
I’m sorta like that gal in Texas, that abided by the law and left her piece in the car and had her parents shot execution style.
I probably have the prowess of FREE and probably much more experience….which meant squat when the bad guys arrived and my stuff was locked down.
Yeah, the hand-wringers keep yapping about statistics (cherry-picked) but carefully avoid the inconvenient truth that most gun-crimes/violent crimes occur in “gun-free zones”.
I celebrate the expansion of the black bear range to include my region…..C68 allows maintaining an unsecured firearm and unsecured ammo in areas where dangerous wild-life is present.
Hi Derek, it is not the difference in value. I have read a little bit about self-defence trials on the gun blogs from the States and one of the criteria used by the court is the ‘recoverability’ of the thing being stolen. If there is a reasonable chance that your property can be identified and returned to you by the police then it is unreasonable for you to shoot the thief provided the thief is not a direct threat to your health. A lawnmower can be recovered, converting a pile of ashes back into your house and all your possessions is not possible. You have to use ‘reasonable’ force that is appropriate to the circumstance. You are allowed a ‘defence of necessity’ in order to preserve life, under English Common Law.
Let’s say you’ve picked up a hitchhiker who now wants to steal your car at knifepoint and you have a gun. In scenario A no one else is in the car and you’re in civilization, the car is insured hence it is recoverable, the reasonable thing to do is to let him have it and call a cab to the police station to file a report. In scenario B, you’re on a lonesome road in a blizzard, your infant is sleeping in the back seat and that hitchhiker wants to kick you out in the cold with no parka and no cell phone. Now two lives are at risk, so it is necessary to use ‘reasonable’ force to prevent him from taking your car in order to protect your life and your child’s.
The word ‘reasonable’ shows up a lot in self-defence cases. Be reasonable and you’ll be acquitted, be unreasonable and you’ll be convicted.
By the way, the question really should end ‘to protect your home.’ Property is too broad a description, it can be a stick of gum or a multimillion dollar family farm or a factory. Perhaps the question was deliberately worded to allow for future misinterpretation.
oops, turned the question around in my head. The question should be
‘Do you have the right to use a gun to protect your home?’
By the way, anyone breaking into my house had better run when he hears me slapping the magazine in and then racking the slide.
Some time ago, in the middle of the night, our neighbor had his door kicked in by a perp who was unaware the house was occupied. Of course our neighbor’s shells were stored apart from his gun, but the sound of his pump action shot gun and the cold steel on the perps temple in the pitch dark produced the desired result; he was on his knees pretty quick. I doubt the perp ever did get those pants clean and our neighbor no longer stores gun and ammo separately.
I believe that many Libs know very well that gun ownership and the right to defend property with one deters criminals from home invasions, especially when someone is in the home.
For many of them who refuse to own or use a firearm, they more than likely don’t want to be the only soft targets in a community, thus insisting that all become soft targets so that they aren’t singled out.
It’s the motto of the left, sharing in the misery and stupidity along with your money.
Why is it that the hard left loons at the CBC who are convinced Harper is going to turn the country into a dictatorship want to have the state take away your right to self defence?
They screech about him and a police state, yet don’t want people to have any right to self defence.
If they actually are concerned about a police state, why do they want to hand the police and the state more power?
It is absurd, as usual.
long post, but look at some of the key points in the article and see how they apply to you…and what consider what kind of article might have been written have happened if she hadn’t been armed ? then recall that this scenario was played out over 3 million reported times last year…and the liebrals don’t want you to know that there were all of those crimes prevented because it skews their ‘crime is going down’ fake statistics…as in ‘reported crime is going down’ because people don’t even bother calling property crimes in since they know nothing will be done anyway.
Mom Runs Burglars Off with Gun
Updated: Thursday, 09 Feb 2012, 10:04 AM CST
Published : Wednesday, 08 Feb 2012, 10:55 PM CST
DAMALI KEITH
Reporter
HOUSTON – A couple of burglars chose the wrong woman to pick on.
They came sneaking into her house, and she sent them running out. Perhaps they didn’t count on the woman fighting back, but that’s just what she did.
The mother of two was getting her 10-year-old son ready for school when the two bad guys broke in. She grabbed a gun and came face-to-face with not one but two intruders inside her Huffman home.
“It was scary,” she said.
She’s still shaken up, so she doesn’t want her identity revealed.
It was broad daylight, 7:30 a.m., and the deer that are always outside the family’s home were not the only ones out.
“We have trees and animals. You never think there’s someone watching you,” she said. “They had to have been watching because my 17-year-old had just left and I heard breaking glass.”
Her 17-year-old son had left for school and her husband for work. She was home with her 10-year-old son, her 4-pound Maltese and 200-pound English Mastiff. Turns out the burglars closed the Maltese in the washing machine and locked the Mastiff in the bathroom.
“I put him in the closet. I said no matter what you, do not leave,” she said of her son.
“She said stay here, no matter what, until the cops come get you,” her son said.
“I could hear people moving around. We don’t really own guns,” the mother added
Then she remembered her dad had given her son a .22 rifle.
“So I picked up a gun, and it was a BB gun, and I started to think we’re in trouble.”
But this mother was determined to protect her 10-year-old son. She found the rifle and went looking for the intruders in her home.
“The (front) door was open. They were bringing stuff in and out. I stopped right here (in the breakfast area before the living room) and I’m just listening and in walks this guy right into my living room,” she said.
“I started calling 911. I called five times. They kept hanging up on me,” the 10-year-old said.
“Every time, they (911 dispatchers) said we’ll transfer you, then he would get disconnected because they were transferring him to our precinct,” the mom said.
With her 10-year-old son in the closet frantically calling 911, mom found a burglar standing on her fireplace, stealing her flat screen TV.
“So I put the gun up and I’m going to shoot him. His back is to me and I realized I can’t shoot a man in the back,” she said.
She was obviously much more considerate of him than he was of her. A second burglar appeared out of the game room yelling she had a gun. The gun went off.
“It was very horrifying when she shot. It was very scary because I didn’t know if she shot the gun or if the robbers shot the gun,” the 10-year-old said.
Turns out it was his mom who fired. The bullet went through a candle and it’s holder on the wall.
The burglars bolted from the house. After about 25 minutes of trying to call 911, deputies arrived to investigate a crime that this community is not used to seeing.
“It’s a very nice family neighborhood. The lots have to be at least an acre. A lot of horses here,” said Capt. Jon Moore with the Harris County Sheriff’s Office.
The mother of two said the two burglars appeared to be in their early 20s. It does not appear they were shot, and this family said they will not stop enjoying their country home.
“We have trees and animals. This is our home. They’re not chasing us out,” the mom said. “I know that I’m safe now. We have taken precautions. If somebody comes in again they won’t be walking out this time.”
YAY! Another useless and misleading internet poll for the self-selecting!
Your tax dollars at work, baby!
82% for the Yes side now. The liberal elite in their ivory towers must be cowering with fear now that us mere peasents and serfs are not yielding our inalienable right to self-defense to their totalitarian ideas.