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Another argument for Thorium reactors and Canada having Tarawa class amphibious mother ships both to assist in international emergencies and to be able to provide relief along our own west coast where a major quake will certainly occur at some point.
What is that in Degrees?
The BBC source that is used to highlight how dangerous the situation is, “Chatham House” is fully bought into global warming & carbon = poison. They tout their independence, yet offer none of the sort, it’s as though they and the BBC are joined at the hip. Although, I did go to the CBC site this morning strictly to view the comments regarding Stockwell Day’s announcement that he won’t be a candidate in the upcoming election, we all have our confirmational bias’ to tend to… 😉 Mine were yet again, confirmed.
Here’s how Stratfor is covering the news regarding the reactor:
http://www.stratfor.com/
“Thus while the official statements suggest some progress, potentially making this incident more similar to Three Mile Island than Chernobyl, nevertheless details are sparse and the situation remains precarious.”
This seems to be the way to report news, whereby one doesn’t really know what’s going to happen in the coming hours, as opposed to selling boggy men to promote the cause.
Let’s see how this will be played out by the greenies: more than a thousand people killed by earthquake and resulting tsunami = ‘natural’ occurence (ho hum);
three people possibly exposed to minor radiation = Chernobyl type ‘disaster’ (ban all nuclear power plants).
I’m having trouble even processing the reality of this event. How does an entire country get pushed 8 feet? I think the last couple of centuries have been a brief lull in the normal workings of our planet. We’ve come to believe things only happen when we make them happen. This is a reminder of the insignificance of our existence. In the end, all we’ll really leave behind is a bit of trash. Even that will disappear, in the blink of an eye.
Okay, enough 60s philosophy. GPS technology has given us the means to detect movements that went unnoticed until about 20 years ago. As Bill Nye said on Fox this morning, We have more people living in vulnerable areas, and more news coverage of every event. What we need to do now, is get busy helping the victims rebuild.
Kind of put Lybia and Wisconsin on the back burner.
The Cable Nutbar Network seems to be the only source for this story, notwithstanding the comments from the guy at USGS. Have not been able to confirm the sources, including that of the Italian institute mentioned in the story. Would like to see corroboration, if anybody has it.
How does an entire country get pushed 8 feet?
Posted by: coach at March 12, 2011 1:16 PM
Hell, over the last 50 years we’ve been shoved 8 miles…to the left.
In the very first picture of the Daily Mail site linked in the post (“Photos”), the building (a pair together) in the immediate centre forground is a 6 story hospital. Japanese television (NHK) reported that the tsunami reached the 4th floor of that building as about 300 patients awaited evacuation. What the picture doesn’t show, is the area in front of the hospital, which extended city blocks to the sea. Everything in front of the hospital is gone.
It has been said, regarding continental drift theory, that the Atlantic is expanding and North America is sailing towards Asia at the same rate as our fingernails grow. Fine but this is not a steady rate due to the nature of rock.
It’s sorta like anyone who has ever split firewood with a hammer and wedges. It’s a series of pops and cracks. Japan had the unhappy chance of being on one of those pops.
The force…like the wedge, in the wood, is steady and the resistant is temporary. when the stress overcomes the resistance there is a massive shift. This is sorta like that block of wood which resists then suddenly breaks into 2 pieces.
DrD
And there I thought I was the only one that appreciated the Tarawa class….assault ships.
The ship itself is not that remarkable…it’s it’s ability to rapidly deploy the mass in it’s belly.
The Boston Globe, as is usual in their Big Picture Blog, has some excellent photos of the quake and tsunami: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/massive_earthquake_hits_japan.html
Oh dear…
I fear that some people may never be recovered.
Please forgive me, but the non-stop coverage of this event is….. boring.
I hope the axis shift moves Alberta 4″ closer to the equator cause I got a boat load of snow to get rid of and this global warming thingie just isn’t performing up to its ads.
The reactor leak/meltdown/oopsie is starting to get a lot of coverage that IMHO it doesn’t deserve. From a technical/design POV its interesting, the pump failure makes an extremely good argument in favor of passive cooling designs that work no matter what happens to the power supply outside. It also makes a good argument to have some kind of air-deliverable AC generator capacity for when TSHTF.
The really -big- problem though is all those fields that just got soaked with sea water. The Japanese have clearly dealt with salt contamination before, but not on this scale. I have no idea how one goes about cleaning the salt out of a rice field, but along with clearing out all the wreckage left behind I bet it won’t be cheap.
I’m waiting for that great carissssstian leader pat robertson to blame it all on the Japanese and their ‘deal wit’ da debbil’
3w dot youtube dot com/watch?v=59NCduEhkBM
p.s. I predict the death toll will top 20,000.
more ammunition for mr robertson no doubt.
Phantom: “The reactor leak/meltdown/oopsie is starting to get a lot of coverage that IMHO it doesn’t deserve.”
No kidding. Greenpeace took the opportunity today to claim that it’s justification for shutting down all reactors everywhere. We all KNEW those swine were going to go there, which is why those filth cheer every natural disaster.
Beagle: “I predict the death toll will top 20,000.”
Ghoulish, much? Are you predicting or wishing?
Beagle,…Ffffttttt!
The reactor’s explosion is really scary, especially when the blast is zoomed in on.
The Japanese “official” news is far too minimized in its declarations as to what is really happening. Saving face is all important to them, kind of reminds me of the Russian news stories. Just give us the facts and lets us deal with them, not having to decipher what is true and what is partial truth. There is no time for this now.
This is an awful natural disaster and I hope these good people can get the help they need in an expedient manner. On the other hand it took this horrible event to move the headlines, for a day, in Canadas CBC CTV Globe Starwipe and Bourque from We All Hate Harper, But We’re Independant Thinkers to covering Japan. The ongoing Hatefest towards a good man, Steven Harper, from our so called media is sikening. These Fifes and Martin Simpson Omalley bastards cannot stand any longer, to not get the handouts from the stinking liberals they used to get. So thank God you media twits, he gave you time to catch your breaths and refill your ink and rest up for your ongoing character assasination assignment.
Guess what caused the quake? Go on, guess!
“57. Matt
This is going to be truly devastating for the Japanese nation. Many parts of rural Japan were already deep into entropic decay before this tsunami. Does anyone here read Spike Japan? It is a series of photo-journalistic essays chronicling the ennui afflicting Japan outside of the bustling city-centers. Fascinating, beautiful, and tragic.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2011/03/11/a-wired-world-in-its-own-mirror/#comment-148409
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Spike Japan: Hide the Decline*!?
http://spikejapan.wordpress.com/
“These travelogues have two favorite Japanese words. The first is 衰退 (suitai, decline). Let’s take a closer look at it.”
*H/T AGW’s Jones/Mann ClimateGate.
Black Mamba, and you were going to blame Bush! 😉
I think albertaclipper (1:13PM) has the right elements, but how soon will the left reconnect the dots to show the nuclear plant caused the earthquake, or will they just go Tucson and blame Sarah Palin?
The comments at Ace of Spade’s first post about the reactor are excellent as several commenters there are current or former USN nuke technicians. (Especially Vic’s and Sandy Salt’s comments.) It discusses events up to about 1 p.m. EST.
http://minx.cc/?post=313275
Comments 61, 136, 153, 168, 250 & 415 cover what’s going on with the reactors themselves; and comments 194, 200, 205, 364 & 548 cover the lack of danger of radiation leakage outside the plant’s immediate area. (Counteracting fears of it affecting California or the rest of the Americas that had some commenters worried.)
There are two new posts that I haven’t checked out yet. I assume they cover the afternoon (here) period and are probably worth a read especially if the nuke guys are still commenting.
Solution – Give Al Gore a Trillion Dollars in “Carbon Credits” and this will never happen again. Promise.
Greenpeace aside – Doesn’t it seem a little foolish to build a 100 nuclear reactors on a small earthquake prone island?
p.p.s.
100 times the strength of the Haiti quake and 100 more radiation than Chernobyl. let’s see if the Japanese are up to the task.
I’m betting the affirmative.
and cg: don’t be misled by my previous comments on doing Hiroshima on my own. this isn’t 1945.
my revised estimate is 80,000. minimum. Japan has a LOT of cities and towns on the coast. God help them keep their wits about them. I want foreign aid to set a precedent with this one. the Japanese will put it all to good use.
that enough of a clue for you cg?
beagle>
“I want foreign aid to set a precedent with this one.”
Didn’t you say the other day that you don’t work and milk a disability check.
I hope and pray that such a tragedy shall never befall another human being but at the same time I hope this is a object lesson for Liberals. Words do NOT equal Actions. Word – Hillary says that the US Navy delivered coolant to the Japanese reactors. Action – no coolant equals explosions and meltdown. Words are not enough.
Knight 99
Keep it classy….leave the ad hominums to the lefties.
I realize there are some malingerers on disability but that is the result of corruption/negligence by the medical establishment.
However, the vast majority are genuinely impaired from gainful employment and many have abandoned disability payments to work low paying jobs.
Smearing disability recipients as parasites is as vile as the lefty smear of racism.
That said it has become evident that regardless the cause of the dependance on government…there is a definite political mentality towards supporting more government from that dependancy class. Which is regretable.
I have not noticed this trend in seniors…..
hi knight.
what does one have to do with the other?
p.s. the money I am taking out of disability is the same cash I put in when my earnings were the same 100 times as much.
If I could speak Japanese I would be headed there right now.
what do you plan on doing?
p.p.s. today’s skill testing question: what small island industrial country with long experience dealing with earthquakes ALWAYS sends its people to earthquake damaged locations all over the world?
andycanuck, thanks. Also found comment 417 interesting: “I saw an ex-pat mom on Fox last night, who was planning to get the hell out of town with her two boys. She said the Japanese are being very laid-back about the danger of radiation, but the ex-pats….not so much.”
The Japanese have a historical knowledge of how much radiation it takes to jeopardize health.
sasquatch >
I meant “bragged” about milking disability and not adding to the system like the “rest of us fools” to paraphrase. There’s a difference.
Beagle >
“what do you plan on doing?”
Well at the moment I’m just south of Japan and will be going there in less than two weeks. Not to be physically working with any relief efforts, but I will be “hands-on” contributing to the economy for a couple of weeks.
This site comes recommended for nuclear updates from credible sources:
http://ansnuclearcafe.org
It gets worse.
Godzilla has recovered from his last “B” movie, and is coming ashore for Gamma radiation and an espresso.
Something about not able to stomach the constant “Sheen” on cable.
a series of videos showing the terrible destructive force of the wave:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/watch-raw-footage-japan-earthquake-tsunami-20110311-065851-258.html
The real question is, “Which Bush policy caused this disaster?”
The next hit will be North America’s West Coast most geologists think for one this size.
150 miles by a width of 50 miles is one mighty big pot hole.
Lets not forget though that Global warming by humans is the bigger danger, so the Religious nature worshipers of the green would have you believe.
Anthropomorphic much?
JMO
Two posts on the radiation exposure from a radiological control technician:
incalcuable-danger
radiation-poisoning?
“The reactor leak/meltdown/oopsie is starting to get a lot of coverage that IMHO it doesn’t deserve.”
hi phantom,
how’s about you get over there and take a look around the reactor core in this one:
ca dot news dot yahoo dot com/japan-plant-frantic-efforts-govt-says-partial-meltdown-20110313-010300-994.html
I see it as a win-win proposition. for everyone but you. LOL !!!
i would be interested to find out about those cars that caught fire. The first shots of them was just piled up cars, and all of the sudden they are on fire. Insurance move? Hybrid batteries exploding from sea water?
The best comments on the actual events and dangers of the Japanese nuclear plants can be found at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2688108/posts.
Quote: “This post is by Dr Josef Oehmen, a research scientist at MIT, in Boston.
He is a PhD Scientist, whose father has extensive experience in Germany’s nuclear industry. I asked him to write this information to my family in Australia, who were being made sick with worry by the media reports coming from Japan. I am republishing it with his permission.
It is a few hours old, so if any information is out of date, blame me for the delay in getting it published.
This is his text in full and unedited. It is very long, so get comfy.
I am writing this text (Mar 12) to give you some peace of mind regarding some of the troubles in Japan, that is the safety of Japan’s nuclear reactors. Up front, the situation is serious, but under control. And this text is long! But you will know more about nuclear power plants after reading it than all journalists on this planet put together.
There was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity.
….”
It’s because of AGW, of course (commentator in the earth axis article):
“This probably won’t mean very much to most people, but when you heat the atmosphere,(global warming) assuming a stable core heat production from the centre of the earth, then it allows heat production from the centre to have more effect on the surface of the plnet becauseit is not cooled by the the conditions on the surface of the planet. The deepest mines we have drilled are the hottest. When that core heat meets the surface it is cooled, but in the scenario of global warming that heat meets much less resistance. Heat is a major determinant of chemical and physical reactions. It is very likely that if global warming continues we will see increased plate tectonic activity. Japan’s coast moved 8 ft to the east. The earth’s axis moved 4 inches. I wish they had told me in which direction. Are we going to have colder or warmer winters? From what I can gather the tusnami was caused by an uplifting of at least ten metres, a slope leaning towards Japan, a slope that caused Japan’s tusnami. It didn’t affect anyone else very much but caused huge destruction on that coast of Japan. I expect there will be at least 30,000 dead when the final tallies come in. What I really don’t understand is why we don’t have a scientific anaylis of what happened. We have many experts in many fields who could explain what actually happened, but CNN and BBC have not interviewed them at all. less”