Update 2 – I pulled down part of the original content of this post for a few hours, while Anthony Watts checked it for accuracy. I’ve now updated it with excerpts of his corrected version.
I’ve been following this issue a few days and looking at a number of stations and had planned to make a detailed post about my findings, but WUWT commenter Steven Douglas posted in comments about this curious change in GISS data recently, and it got picked up by Kate at SDA, which necessitated me commenting on it now. [And he didn’t give the “what for” I deserved for that – ED]. This goes back to the beginning days of surfacestations.org in June 2007 and the second station I surveyed.
“Remember Orland? That nicely sited station with a long record?”
Note the graph I put in place in June 2007 on that image.
Orland, CA station
Now look at the graph in a blink comparator showing June 2007 and today:
And it is not just Orland, I’m seeing this issue at other stations too. […] The timing could not be worse for public confidence in climate data.
Continue reading here….
Now, take a look at this
“Chalk up another for the flattening the past theme. Here’s what Calgary Int’l looks like:”
(Click to enlarge)
“I added a 15 year moving average to both the raw (in blue) and adjusted (in red) data and what they’ve done is quite striking. The warm “blip” between roughly 1915-40 has been adjusted down by as much as a full degree C while leaving the cold years in the late 1800’s and warm years post 1970’s more or less alone. Niiiiiiice.”
Who’s the minister in charge of Environment Canada? I bet he’d be a great interview.
I am very sorry if Environment Canada are doing this.
My own recollections of a couple of very strange days, weatherwise, don’t seem to square
with official records.
Another matter about Environment Canada. Back about
20 years ago they had one of the world’s leading
glaciologists, Simon Ommaney, working for them.
One of his major projects was mapping the Canadian
glaciers, which are numerous. The small ones should be good indicators of limate change, if any.
He was not treated sympathetically in Environment Canada, and left,
for Cambridge, to become chair of the International Glaciological Society.
I don’t know what happened to his mapping project-
I had a couple of draft maps from him, which are now in the Memorial University Library, but the
one map librarian I hve talked to about the matter
can’t find any ther sheets, and didn’t know anything about the project.
Yet another dereliction of
successive Canadian governments in regard to environmental monitoring.
One does wonder.
Seriously, when is there going to be different content on SDA again? Your readers are the choir, Kate. We believed AGW was bs before climate gate. I can understand the desire for keeping tabs on it, but it’s all you post about now. We don’t need long articles about it everyday. Make a list box with links or something, and bring back was once a great blog. Obviously you own the place and can do what you want, but I thought I’d let you know that myself and a few other people I know are getting a little frustrated with this one issue blog. Again, you’re not convincing anyone who has not been convinced. Just being blunt.
Thanks for all your work over the years, btw.
The collusion on the AGW narrative is so widespread that the average folks will have a hard time believing that it’s real and not a crazy conspiracy theory. The trained seals of the MSM embedded in the narrative are trying to reinforce that skepticism by continuing with the “nothing to see here folks”, “its all settled”, and the statist variant, “might makes right”.
Thanks to Kate and the blogosphere, minds are changing.
Post by: Stan at December 11, 2009 12:12 PM
I completely disagree with you ‘Stan’. This “climategate” is very newsworthy item. Keep up the most excellent work ‘Kate’ because it sure isn’t being covered by ‘lame stream media’.
Stan, I appreciate what you’re saying. However, the traffic here at SDA since Climategate broke is 70% higher than in the weeks preceding it, and remaining stable.
Please check the traffic stats on those Blogging Tories pouring over details of Afghanistan detainee abuse, and get back to me.
If the information being posted here was available in the Canadian mainstream media, I’d be doing what you suggest already. But it’s not, and until it is, I’ll continue to follow it closely – particularly in this currently “Copenhagen” heated media atmosphere.
All the better to justify global skimming operations like Enron type cap n trade operations which are now having their cover blown!!
http://www.europol.europa.eu/index.asp?page=news&news=pr091209.htm
Carbon Credit fraud causes more than 5 billion euros damage for European Taxpayer
The Hague – The Netherlands.
The European Union (EU) Emission Trading System (ETS) has been the victim of fraudulent traders in the past 18 months. This resulted in losses of approximately 5 billion euros for several national tax revenues. It is estimated that in some countries, up to 90% of the whole market volume was caused by fraudulent activities.
Indications of suspicious trading activities were noted in late 2008, when several market platforms saw an unprecedented increase in the trade volume of European Unit Allowances (EUAs). Market volume peaked in May 2009, with several hundred million EUAs traded in e.g. in France and Denmark. At that time the market price of 1 EUA, which equals 1 ton of carbon dioxide, was around EUR 12,5.
As an immediate measure to prevent further losses France, the Netherlands, the UK and most recently Spain, have all changed their taxation rules on these transactions. After these measures were taken, the market volume in the aforementioned countries dropped by up to 90 percent.
With the support of Belgium, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, Spain and the United Kingdom Europol has set up a specific project to collect and analyse information in order to identify and disrupt the organised criminal structures behind these fraud schemes. There are reasons to believe that fraudsters might soon migrate towards the gas and electricity branches of the energy sector.
Mr. Wainwright, Director of Europol, says “These criminal activities endanger the credibility of the European Union Emission Trading System and lead to the loss of significant tax revenue for governments. Europol is using its expertise and information capabilities to help target the organised crime groups involved”. Europol has therefore offered its support to the European Commission – DG Environment to safeguard the integrity of the Community Independent Transaction Log.”
Background information
Missing trader intra-community fraud (MTIC) is the theft of Value Added Tax (VAT) from a government by organised crime groups who exploit the way VAT is treated within the member states of the EU.
The EU has the objective of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, to reduce climate change and meet its obligations under the Kyoto Protocol. Each MS has granted its emitting facilities a certain amount of emission rights by means of a National Allocation Plan. These emission rights can be traded like any other commodity on the market. The transfer of greenhouse gas emission allowances is a taxable supply of services.
In Europe there are 6 trading platforms: European Climate Exchange (London, UK), Nordic Power Exchange (Oslo, Norway), European Energy Exchange (Leipzig, Germany), Energy Exchange Austria (Graz, Austria), Climex (Amsterdam, the Netherlands) and BlueNext (Paris, France) and various other market platforms such as SENDECO2, Italian Power Exchange GME and most recently Greenmarket, set up by Deutsche Bank at the Munich exchange. More than 2 billion EUAs have been allocated to 12.000 emitting facilities in the 27 MS. The EU carbon market is estimated to be worth about €90 billion a year!
The Emissions Trading Scheme (EU ETS) was created as a cap-and-trade system for transactions of European Unit Allowances. Each transfer of EUAs is recorded in a national registry before it is centrally stored in the Community Independent Transaction Log (CITL) at the EU Commission.
Carbon credit fraud is a variation on the VAT carousel fraud. The attached graphic shows how carbon credit carousel fraud works.
Hey Soros says the the carbon credit slush fund should be $100 billion!!
Soros pitches idea of 100-billion-dollar climate fund
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091210/sc_afp/unclimatewarmingaidsoros
GLOW BALL warming scam is justification for the cap n trade trillion dollar skimmers.
You just need enough dupes to vote for the schtick and you have a never ending revenue stream.
That where the real game is…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
I am glad Kate’s been focusing on Climategate. This is my “go to” site for all matters climategate. Like a good denier, I am in the process of trying to educate by less interested friends as to the implications of Copenhagen etc., and in order to stay on top of it on a daily basis, all I need to do is come to this site. Keep up the good work Kate!
Kate, keep focusing on this BS warming issue because the intent of the socialists/commies in the UN is to make Canadian consumers and taxpayers much poorer and people need to be made aware how much cap and trade will cost them and the country.
We know MSM will not do that so keep up the good work.
how does that saying go….
“the road to valhalla is strewn with those of good intentions”
Fruitflyguy
goreacle
O – both of ’em
keep it coming Kate. we can take it.
My only question: When does it cease being sloppy science and cross the line into outright fraud?
Folks:
As many here know, I’m a big fan of Marshall Macluhan. He once wrote “All myth is compressed wisdom”.
May I suggest, that on climate change, the operable myth is neither “Chicken Little” nor “A Stitch in Time”, but rather “King Canute”?
Extreme temps for Sask. for the next few days. Windchill in the -40’s. Hey Al baby, want to stop by and feel that global warming b.s. of yours? The normal temps are somewhere around -5 to -16 I think.
I’m beginning to seriously believe these enviro turkeys are really trying to kill us. I’d say this goes beyond just fraud. It’s closer to a declaration of war against the population. They want to put us back in the dark ages because of a bloody non-existent problem. If Harper signs anything, we should go marching in the streets, for starters. I’m really sick of this crap. There are more of us then there are of them.
Keep the heat on Kate. Good job.
It is an interesting coincidence, that once I said to myself: ‘these new 2 Terabyte hard drives really make a difference in data storage – one can store entire history of humankind on an array size of a second bedroom these days’, the data deletion story came up.
Climate-Gate has already exposed GISS and NOAA as socialist conspirators and we suspected that Enviro-Canada was similar…now we have some evidence.
The question is will it need an election and/or a Macabean-like event to purge the commies from the swivellel service?
We see the same single minded continuation/propagation of LIBRANO policy at Justice Canada…..BS statistics supporting the registry etc….
Where’s the surface station at YYC? That airport has gone through a lot of changes in the last 20 years.
I suspect that Alberta readings are more accurate than most other locations. The never ending wind would tend to cool down any heat from local sources, allowing the ambient temperature to stay constant.
The Environment Canada office at McCall in Calgary was actually shut down for nearly a decade, starting in 1999?, so I don’t know how they were able to come up with this data.
There’s something wrong with the blink comparator graph, the “now” data from GISS today doesn’t match up with the plot in his graph which purports to be now.
I’m looking into this.
I’ve used the resources here, and at WUWT, to deprogram at least four “greenies” who had no idea of the nature of the hoax they were propping up until the Climategate e-mails hit the Net. Now they’re out trying to deprogram their friends.
SDA really DOES get results.
It is this kind of data adjustment without apparent reason that needs in-depth investigation. The e-mails, while interesting at revealing the mindset of the climate scientists, only hint at the extent of their ‘tricks’. The graphs of statistical tweaking provides evidence of how they did it. The refusal to comply with FOI requests and raw data destruction then reinforces the data manipulation theory. If it can be proven that it is manipulation then the AGW theory should be dead in the water.
I appreciate all the energy you and others (WUWT, M&M etc.) have put into exposing the AGW deception.
Interesting conversation here:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/climategates-not-evil-its-just-unhinged/article1396256/
Does anyone know of a good ‘letter to Grandma explaining climategate’ type article that one could print out and leave in the coffee room at work or with the magazines in the doctor’s office or slip into those stacks of the socialist rag Planet S or other spots where people have time to read while they wait for something?
Most of us here are news junkies but there are people who aren’t and who are just getting the spin from the MSM.
The MSM won’t do their job so someone has to.
We could call it our Climategate Action Plan.
This is the fraud of the century and the more people understand that the better.
Any suggestions?
Here is a simple fact of climate science, the Climategate scientists and data modelers at the heart of the issue developed the adjustments for homogenizing the data, it is used in some form by all the climate records. See Canada adjustments recently here.
If everyone is doing the same thing that is why you get the same results from three different records. This is a key part of addressing the argument that all long term climatic temperature records show the warming.
These adjustments were pioneered by NASA GISS and basically replicated through out the science community. When they are all basically applying the same adjustments they all get the same answers.
Three Monkeys trained to push the blue button when together and then are sent to three different labs will continue to push the blue button…
Kate: keep up the awesome work – this is the most important peacetime issue and scandal
of our lives and deserves the attention.
I trust that Adler rutherford et al will be getting minister prentice on air pronto. Heads should roll.
Gore and Suzuki, and millions of cultists, believe that AGW is the most important issue facing humanity. I agree – because I don’t want my son and his descendants to live like worker bees in a hive filling the pockets of totalitarian scum like Gore and Suzuki.
Kate, thanks for compiling and publishing so much of what the world really needs to know about this, and please do keep up the good work.
Kate: keep up the awesome work – this is the most important peacetime issue and scandal
of our lives and deserves the attention.
I trust that Adler rutherford et al will be getting minister prentice on air pronto. Heads should roll.
Kate, Stan is dead wrong!
This story is huge and I am relying on SDA to gather the latest on this story.
I am a private researcher and have never seen a more serious case of fraud with such a detrimental effect on the globe’s economy.
No other story really matches up to what you are doing here.
These guys want to keep 1.6 billion people in perpetual poverty while at the same time enrich themselves with both money and power.
I am deeply grateful for what you are doing, so continue to keep up the good work!
Well it looks like things are about to hit the fan big time as the US and China are in a brawl at Copenhagen about … guess what … enviro$$$ !
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hBdzKbBanVB0GNtHwKbyQzCvsc7AD9CH7DDO0
> Chinese official calls US negotiator irresponsible
>
> By KARL RITTER (AP) – 25 minutes ago
>
> COPENHAGEN — China’s Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei on Friday said the chief U.S. climate negotiator either lacks common sense or is “extremely irresponsible” for saying that no U.S. climate financing should be going to China.
>
> In unusually blunt language, He said he was “shocked” by U.S. climate envoy Todd Stern’s comments earlier this week that China shouldn’t expect any American climate aid money and that the United States was not in any debt to the world for its historical carbon emissions.
Good work Kate press on indeed! We CAN handle the truth! Particularly with the EU and PM Brown in England falling all over themselves to give Billions to this Greenie Ponzi scheme. A little strange how Al Gore has disappeared down the “rabbit hole” the last few days,
Go for it Kate. I love the series.
Freedom of speach at the UN Climate Summit. NOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtzMBfDrpI
Stan is wrong. I’m a regular reader as well and I’m checking SDA, wattsupwiththat constantly. This story is massive. And deserves the attention with what is at stake it is the most important story.
The climate change AGW crowd is trying to get away with a massive bastardization of capitalism with carbon trading.
A Financial Post editor echos the position of the Chinese government in favor of a global one child policy. Advocating the biggest infringement on personal liberty possible.
All of this because a small group of scientists have manipulated temperature records.
I don’t know of any other story that is more important right now.
Getting back to the thread’s (actual)topic…;)
My beef with statistics couldn’t be better illustrated than here. The graph apparently shows nodes at Summer highs and Winter lows; the averaged temp tells nothing except a homogenized meaningless trend.
A record setting brutally cold and long Winter, followed by an exceptionally dry and hot Summer, is reduced to porridge.
5 years of Cream of Wheat instead of a Prairie dustbowl…
Rob @ dailyrasp, I watched that video and once again the folks who have been caught with their pants down are falling back on this useless meme that the emails were private.
In the last two jobs that I have had (in Alberta and Saskatchewan respectively), the law says that any document produced on the employer’s computer resources on employer time is the property of the employer. By extention, it would be considered as releasable in a FOI request. If the law in the UK is similar, and it certainly should be for a publicly funded institution, then this notion that the emails are “private”, like the research conducted at CRU itself, simply doesn’t stand.
These folks are desperate.
@Stan: well, it’s only you then. Live with it.
Importance of climategate cannot be underestimated.
The seduction of scientists by the ‘dark side’ is truly frightening and we need to get to the bottom of that – what their motivation was and how exactly they were motivated to undermine Western economy and establish global policies for transfer of Western wealth to the so-called ‘3d world’, which strangely includes Russia and China.
For the sake of balance I have to state that if Russia and China did not have a reputation of countries which shoot first, ask questions later, on the premise that end justifies the means, I would not have worried as much.
For me it is blatantly obvious that the whole thing was engineered by the commies as the next round of Cold War, and a very clever one.
This is an issue of strategic importance to our survival and only relentless efforts of several individuals, not affiliated with the government and not supported by taxpayers, was able to undermine the looming crisis.
Great! Thanks for the update. I can have lunch now.
Climategate is the most important issue out there and without the internet blogs it would have been spiked in the MSM. The huge increases in taxes, electricity and virtually everything you buy if a carbon trading scheme goes ahead justify every word to expose the warming sham. In addition we will have government with the authority to regulate every aspect of our lives in the name of climate change.
Go Kate!
Calgary would be an interesting case. For years the temperature was taken down near the Bow River (av. temp 4C), later 5 miles away at the Airport on flat open plain. Any assumptions as to the effect on temperatures between the two is guesswork and could never be claimed with any degree of statistical accuracy.
Bogus science done for grant money.
It still boils down to the Enviromental Minister will sign on to whatever the USA decides. If the Government of Canada signs anything, before studying the facts, then I would join those on the streets protesting.
All this because the PM is afraid of losing a few votes from enviromentalists and the fear spread by Dr, Fruitfly. At this particular time, the first time, I am losing faith in the PM doing what is right for Canada. Like I said before, we will know by Christmas.
I’m with all of your other supporters, Kate. Keeping this travesty alive is the most important thing that we can do for ours and future generations.
Btw, you were terrific on Adler today and I am a proud supporter of all the great things you do to enlighten engaged Canadians.
Too bad that the meeting is being held in Copenhagen and not here in Saskatoon. Windchill warnings -40 to -45 C. But it’s a dry cold.
Trillions of dollars rest in the balance here , stay the course Kate .
can I do the same thing with some of my less-than-stellar high school marks?
LOL !!!
has this hit the late nite comedy shows yet?
you’ve all noticed the traffic here at sda too. 400,000+ since the last and very recent milestone. keep at them Kate.
trillions of dollars at stake hinging on lies lies and more lies. still no word on the identity of the whistleblower, God bless them.
I think I posted on this subject of “period of record adjustment” in another thread.
Before people go off on too big a rant, you need to become aware that the “climatological day” was changed at some point 60-70 years ago, which tended to make later records colder … the reason is that days with constant temperature falls that produce daily minima in the evening hours (and these are not rare in Canadian winter patterns) used to be cut off earlier so that you would get higher monthly averages “back then” than you do “nowadays” given the same actual data.
As an example, say that it hovers around -18 C all day then starts falling sharply at sundown to reach -35 C at midnight. Nowadays, that would go into the records as high of -18, low of -35 … but in the 1930s a day like that would go into the books as more like -18, -20. That happens often enough that an adjustment is required to compare data sets. I think the adjustment being used is a bit generous, but it’s not just an outright fraudulent attempt to add to the “evidence” for AGW.
As for the California station that supposedly was warmer in the 1880s than nowadays, that would make it the only place on earth that was, as the 1880s were a very cold decade generally. I suspect that station may have been relocated to cause the discrepancy.
The winters of the 1880s were even worse than the past two, so it was no MWP that’s for sure.
Last winter I was convinced that E.Can, was fudging the coldest numbers.
Their weather site would say for example, the high today is -12c then it’s clearly not any higher than -22c for the day.
The next day their site DID not corrected to what the actualy temp was but left at what they predicted.
This happened several times.
Never use their site for weather predictions/conditions any longer. AccuWeather.com’s much more accurate.
And NEXRAD Radar is the best for tracking bad weather -proiding you reside close to the border.
Kate thanks again for doing the job that our publicly funded corrupted cbc skanks won’t do.
dp I’m not sure about the veracity of Alberta temperatures but since they built the Edmonton International Airport the Urban Heat Island effect was announced every morning. The temperature at the downtown airport remains a degree or two warmer than the temperature at the International Airport.
For Stan, the other one, @ 1:47 p.m., who asks, “Does anyone know of a good ‘letter to Grandma explaining climategate’ type article that one could print out and leave in the coffee room at work or with the magazines in the doctor’s office or slip into those stacks of the socialist rag Planet S or other spots where people have time to read while they wait for something?”
I think this article by the incomparable Charles Krauthammer fills the bill.
http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2009/12/11/the_new_socialism
In Canada, David Warren at the Ottawa Citizen is writing great stuff too.
Keep up the heat, Kate! Thanks.
Peter O’D at 5.26 pm
According to my old geography textbook, the maximum- minimum thermometer was invented in the 1780’s, so recording temperatures when it was convenient to go to bed likely stopped shortly after that. People have always had a morbid curiosity about the weather, and they wouldn’t have stood for a data entry that they knew was wrong. Systematic rearrangement of data was only invented when politicians got involved.
The Canadian Delegation .. . 4 pages of tax payer funded Christmas Shopping in Copenhagen.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009/cop15/eng/misc01p01.pdf
Who are these people?
Kate,
Fully support your emphasis on climategate. This is unfolding as the greatest scientific and economic scandal of the last 100 years.
Governments, NGO’s, corporations, and other rent seekers are in Copenhagen right now attempting to to implement a global command and control economy. They believe what history denied them in the 20th century junk science will unlock in the 21st.
We are still in the denial phase. It’s going to take a while for honest scientists to go through this and start publishing, for “climate change correspondents” to re-tool their careers, and for co-opted political leaders to slowly back away.
Keep posting on this Kate. If this isn’t a situation calling for tenacious bloggers there never will be one.
Fred at 5:46pm
Skimming through the list I actually see one or two brave souls who are likely skeptics. The vast majority, however are hacks, sycophants, followers, and opportunists looking for “green” handouts.
Few, I fear, have ever held a real job, and many of them most likely got fired.