One of the undiscussed results of the vote on C-391 yesterday can give our head-exploding friends on the left a little comfort. There will be no election until that baby gets Royal Assent.
The slew of polls since Mr. Harper’s time was up caused no end of headache to the Liberals and Dippers, all fearing the Conservatives pulling the plug or injecting a poison-pill into some confidence bill.
They can rest easy now. Yesterday’s vote effectively ties the CPC’s hands on killing the gov’t. IMO, the PM wouldn’t dare let this Bill die on the table after having it pass second reading…after the euphoria of the CPC base over its passage. Now, if the Committee tinkers with it too much, as some are hinting. All bets are off.
Course, I really can’t see either the Libs or the Dippers playing that dice game.
Cheers,
lance
– My thanks to HJB for noticing the mistake in this post. Where would we be without anons pointing out our grammatical mistakes.
interesting how a billion dollar mom-and-apple-pie-if-it-saves-just-one-person-it’s-worth-it boondoggle can affect the life expectancy of a minority gov’t here in ol’ compromising conciliatory Canuckistan.
I don’t understand why the cops were behind it when there exist vastly better initiatives in their interests. unless, oh wait, unless the top echelon cop attitude is ‘ifn we cant gets the money directly in our pockets we dont give a flying BEEEEEP how much it puts back the taxpayer’.
Well, I wouldn’t call them “friends”…
Um, lance dear, try to learn how to use the word “it’s.” Using it wrong, which you do again in this post, is so, well, indicative of a certain lack of education and writing skills.
a clarification: cops behind it, ‘it’ being the gun registry.
HJB your name shows a certain lack of maturity.
Gee, HJB, you could try a new pseudonym to show us knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers your surfeit of culture, education and breeding.
I suggest Hugh G. Rection. Seeing as how you usually act like a dick and all…
Garth
Garth maybe Hugh G Rectum?
Paraphrasing Winston Churchill, grammatical nit-picking is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put.
ps, did you mean ‘using it wrongly’, or will you claim this as an attempt at irony?
grep ‘^it.*s$’ /usr/share/dict/words
What is pathetic is this frequent claim of “The Police” wanting the registry.
The Canadian Police Chiefs especially the GTA top cop is not “the Police”….just a bunch of civil servant administrators dancing the jig that they think the politicos favour.
Then there is that nonsense about the thousands of Police references to the registry per day—is dispatchers following orders from the brass—the registry enquiry accompanies even a simple vehicle licence plate search….irrelevant according to the cops on the street.
The cops on the street have NO FEAR OF LICENCED FIREARMS OWNERS OR REGISTERED FIREARMS….as they remark the registry has not clue one about unlicensed/illegal firearms and the felons who carry them.
The only ones who like the registry are the zealots like Cukier and the GTA top cop who used the registry to do a confiscation sweep of registered firearms from legal owners who were technically in violation for expired POL/PAL’s.
If the Libs or the dippers vote against this it would be like putting the toe in the trigger.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/page/view/gun_bill-11-2-2009
Tories target rural ridings on gun bill, trying to build majority
===
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/2009/09/Security_violated_by_CFC.html
Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair has begun a crusade against legal firearms in Toronto. His much touted ‘Project Safe City’ is nothing more than a witch-hunt targeting lawful firearms owners, seizing their private property without compensation, and describing them as ‘criminals.’ Their crime? Allowing their Firearms Licenses to expire.
===
jesse.kline.ca/blog?start=10
Their strategy is to declare Bill C-391, the PMB that repeals the long-gun …. It simply is a matter of reinstating the Alberta Advantage of low taxes,
===
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ei=xIHzSrK-OYbnlAeA3pmkAw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAYQBSgA&q=advantage+and+disadvantage+bill+C-391&spell=1
===
http://www.swbooster.com/News/Politics/2009-11-05/article-185724/Bill_C-391_passes_second_reading_in_the_House_of_Commons/1
news.google.ca/news?hl=en&source=hp&q=vote+on+C-391&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=J3_zSrvUEJKxlAei27imAw&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQsQQwAA
-timestranscript.canadaeast.com/news/article/838461
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/720167
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/the-perils-of-politicizing-a-pandemic/article1349330/
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/entertainment/Gargoyle+Interview+Monarchy+Constitution/2187429/story.html
http://www.edmontonsun.com/life/sexfiles/2009/11/05/11641731-sun.html
“HJB your name shows a certain lack of maturity.”
Good point, but what makes me cringe is the “um” cliche he leans on. That tired, fey attempt at sophistication just seems, um, gay.
I wouldn’t mind being corrected by HJB, but there is no need to be snotty about it. It’s a simple matter of manners.
“Using it wrong”
It’s “wrongly” in that instance and I’d suggest your own skills are obviously limited.
The GTA top cop is an example of an Ont. politician/cop type. These cops refuse to enforce the law when identifiable political groups block major highways, or occupy private property for months on end. I would pay no heed to his statements,as he has forfeited all credibility.
The real story would come from the cop on the street.
My nephew is a Mountie, and he’s definitely for dumping the long gun registry. Anyone, who deals with life threatening situations, knows the registry is just a diversion.
Police associations rely on grants for a large portion of their operating capital. They rely on scaring people for the rest. They are not a good indicator of what regular cops, or regular citizens really want.
Lance includes a link within which there’s a suggestion of ‘decriminalization’. How Canadian of us. An already useless program/bureaucracy has its (okay with you HJB?) teeth pulled but is left in place, for what purpose exactly? Why on Earth would any rational person register his/her rifle or shotgun? A billion dollars for voluntary registration?!
As a resident of Toronto, I can attest that the average officer differs not in intelligence from the average bus driver (I grant they seem to do a better job of shaking people down, but driving a bus doesn’t usually present such opportunity).
And we can all attest from the news every day that the average officer can’t do what would be perceived by the pleb’s to be his/her job.
Cops are just a bunch of hustlers now.
Sorry, I should have clarified in my haste: Toronto bus drivers. Other cities I’ve lived in usually have better drivers, so I don’t mean to generally insult anyone here who is a bus driver. And I doubt anyone from the TTC would venture here, but if you are: quit the mafia and get a real job. Nobody likes you.
anybody siding with tranna cops needs to be reminded of the shenanigans of one craig bromwell. that fu manchu mustache of his made him look more like a gangster than the gangsters.
police in Canada’s big cities is another area you really need a program to tell who the bad guys and good guys are. it’s all so mooshed into a big ball of plasticine now.
Police in Toronto first they arrest you then look for evidence and talk to victim
they are weired people some times
if you faced family kind of men who are experinced police they are ok the young one are funny and some times jerk they do not know the law
they go if they like you or not
Endicu – I suspect that hearing from Balsac, will tonite, not be likely to happen..(or something like that).
Good catch.
I’m sure that we all remember Balsac types in our high school classes – couldn’t stand them then – could stand them no better at those class reunions.
OK Balsac – now you know – hope its not too hard on you.
BTW – did I use “its” correctly just now?
just
Would you please stick with one handle,like “new”,so as I can just scroll past your post,please please!
Rural overrepresentation defeats the people’s will by jibbitson@globeandmail.com
If the House of Commons reflected the will of the people, the gun registry would not once again be threatened with the axe.
…
Within that poll are stark contrasts. Urban voters support the registry, and any other measure that limits gun violence. Rural voters oppose the registry, seeing in it an insidious government conspiracy to pry rifles and shotguns out of hunters’ and farmers’ infuriated hands.
Eighty per cent of us live in cities. If the House of Commons were representative of the nation, the gun registry would survive; the voters of greater Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver would insist on it.
…
More at:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/rural-overrepresentation-defeats-the-peoples-will/article1353380/
————————
Would it be karma for this guy to be taken out by a junkie with an unregistered gun?
It’s actually a punctuation error, not a grammatical one.
Actually Henry, it’s a grammatical error, expressed with punctuation.
BTW, the expression, “progressive friends”, is an oxymoron.
I find the language used(a useful tool) by the Police Chief more reveling if you apply an American glossary
“A Useful tool” is not something you actually use. It is like the snow shovel you buy, but don’t look forward/intend to use in Arizona.
I guess “a useful tool” fits a 3 billion dollar database of legal gun owners. It would be more useful to marketing, or midnight supply folk
“Balsac” in Dutch would be called a “balzak”.
But then that’s a usage error.
When you look at what the gun registry is, basically you have a -list-. It is not a list of who has a gun, it is a list of who felt like telling the government they have a gun. AKA a list of conscientious, law abiding citizens, where they live, and what rifles/shotguns/pistols they own.
Let us assume, amusingly, that the registry functions perfectly.
This is of -zero- use to a policeman on a call to a house owned by a conscientious, law abiding citizen who registered himself and all his guns. Having looked up the registry, the cop does not know who is in the house. He does not know if any of the guns on the list is in the house. He does not know if a gun -not- on the list may be present in the house. All he knows is that at some point the owner complied with the regulations.
Therefore, he must assume guns are present and the call could involve shooting.
Consider now the opposite case where the house is -not- on the registry. The cop does not know who is home, if there are guns present, etc. All he knows is the owner did not register himself or any guns he may or may not posses.
Therefore, he must assume guns are present and the call could involve shooting.
It is upon this rock of adamant that Liberals are making their stand. Because they are incapable of (or unwilling to) do the above piece of logic themselves, and are furthermore incapable of understanding the implications having read it.
They are either morons or crooks.
I would go with crooks, but that’s just a guess.
Curry is in a slurry.
Curry pleads for the return of the Separatist Coalition.
Here is Curry’s vision: “The three opposition parties each have one “opposition day” left before the House of Commons breaks for Christmas in early December.”
…-
“Why prop up the Tories?
Bill Curry
The New Democratic Party’s main reason for voting with the Conservative government has left the building.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/why-prop-up-the-tories/article1353988/
jibbitson@globe and mail .com says that urban voters support the registry and any other measure that limits gun violence.How does my lawful ownership of a firearm affect his safety?Perhaps he should research the large number of shootings that take place in his beloved septic tank by the lake.How many of the weapons used in these incidents are registered?My guess would br zero or close to zero.Taranna should clean up its own act before preaching to the rest of the country.If your cops can t maintain order get some new ones who can and quit trying to blame the rest of us for your problems!
jibbitson@globe and mail .com says that urban voters support the registry and any other measure that limits gun violence.How does my lawful ownership of a firearm affect his safety?Perhaps he should research the large number of shootings that take place in his beloved septic tank by the lake.How many of the weapons used in these incidents are registered?My guess would br zero or close to zero.Taranna should clean up its own act before preaching to the rest of the country.If your cops can t maintain order get some new ones who can and quit trying to blame the rest of us for your problems!