And I’ll show you an artist who needs a real job.
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Update – video has been rehosted here due to mysterious “copyright” violation claims.
And I’ll show you an artist who needs a real job.
(reposted to fix comments function)
Update – video has been rehosted here due to mysterious “copyright” violation claims.
Why is anything subjective being publicly funded? We need better roads more than we need lazy artists and the stripes they paint.
This is not to say we don’t need art, period, only art that will stand the test of time. We have perfectly good artists not getting noticed. Where is their money?
[quote]France was my manager at Nortel. Best manager I have ever had in my entire career. When I was laid off from Nortel, I got another techie job, [/quote]Bob Crooks
Re: Nortel Chapter 11 I think the employees are missing an important issue… If you signed an employee contract, like in the US, which assigns patent bragging rights to the scientist but the Company gets exclusive rights to the patent… The solution to Employee benefits may come through the claiming of those patent rights. (It is not unusual for a severed employee to successfully bargain for Patent rights) Those Patents are a huge profit center, going forward, and the Corporation has technically voided the contract
Existing Model: RCA was sold to GE. The RCA Patent rights & Employee benefits were placed into a RCA Trust…The licensing & revenue produced by the RCA employee patents was “huge”. That trust has performed beyond expectations. It was the right thing to do.
On subject: Support all Canadian ART.. Its the one thing that is, for sure, Canadian.
We can also thank arts grant for the horrid Hip Hop that has come out of TdotOdot for the last 20yrs. Had there been some motivation to sell records perhaps Tdot’s rap music might have been/ be decent.
What ignorant and juvenile comments, philboy. Farmers aren’t ‘welfare junkies’ and how arrogant and insulting of you to write such a thing. Nor are they taking subsidies like those so-called ‘artists’ who can’t and won’t get a wage-job and instead, insist that the taxpayer pay them to ‘feel emotional’.
Farmers get subsidies in the form of low interest loans, tax breaks, cartels (like Quebec alone gets to produce various dairy products and is sheltered from the open market..ahh. quebec), cash backs, wheat and grain subsidies. Why?
Because the farmers are producing commodities that SELL on the open global market and because our environmental realities constrain us to a short growing season.
This means that the produce is and must be competitive with subsidized farms and longer growing seasons in Europe, China, India, Brazil, the USA and so on.
That ‘artist’ isn’t producing anything that sells in the market. The artist isn’t competing with SIMILAR products on the open market that can be sold more inexpensively because of longer growing seasons, and because of government subsidies in those countries. The artist has no equity, no equipment to speak of, no operating costs.
It isn’t that subsidies produce more or less agriculture, but, the competition between large scale and medium/small farms makes agriculture a difficult enterprise. And yet, a robust economy is based around, not large megacompanies, but around small and medium businesses. Therefore, a national economy that supports this type of business enables more of its citizens to be locally self-employed, to employ local workers..than the big megacorporations.
The Luminatis are red faced about wearing their clown nose in public.
Many SDA commenters have a “problem” with subsidies, no matter who gets the taxpayer money.
Uh, no, not so so… you, the bear, cooper don’t seem to have a problem with some subsidies.
The CTF has certainly never met a farm subsidy they didn’t like.
The truth may sting, but it’s not invective.
At least we weren’t forced to fund him showing his body fluids in a jar. This is just another example of the art’s community fleecing the public to pay for their hobbies. A real artist does not expect the people to fund his/her work, the faux artist have no talent and resort to creating worthless junk like that giant rubber ball. A grossly obese man wearing grape smugglers passes for art in Quebec, the rest of Canada call it obscene and a man on a beach.
Slow day in mom’s basement for philbot.
I just remembered, here’s the Red Rubber Ball dedicated to philboy.
Actually Philboy, if the government stopped stealing from Western farmers, they wouldn’t have need for ‘subsidies’. Tough to call it ‘subsidies’ when they tell you what you can earn, who you have to pay your ‘earnings’ to, and then return a pittance (minus the red tape fees) and call it a subsidy.
Your point once again?
General, please, could you please expound on your
demented little theory. It sounds much more entertaining than the usual, predictable, small dead hypocrisies.
pillboy
I’m about to start haying, come and give me a hand will you!!!!!
and general is correct, the western farmers git screwed
“I’m about to start haying, come and give me a hand will you!!!!!”
You’ll have to explain the term “haying” to philbot. It’s a very good possibility that he doesn’t know a swather from a combine. Besides, he’s probably plagued by allergies and is prone to blistering of the hands when exposed to a little physical labour.
Seriously though … don’t give this guy an audience. He thrives on attention which motivates him to distribute crap in all directions. Much like a manure spreader.
Anyone comparing a farmer who actually produces something that people want and need to a subsidy based artist producing …. well, nothing of value, is not worthy of conversation.
Didn’t propose a theory, Philboy, this is what you call facts and reason.
Don’t know which words you were having a problem with, but I’ll try and dumb it down without having to employ the sock puppets for ya:
In 1984, NZ embarked on a then-almost unheard of program of privatization, they lowered agricultural ‘subsidies’ (as well as wage and price controls)
At the time everyone screamed bloody murder about how the NZ farmers were going to literally die in their fields – if they could still afford them – and go bankrupt to boot.
Feel free to Bing it for yourself, but there’s one of the first I found:
http://newfarm.rodaleinstitute.org/features/0303/newzealand_subsidies.shtml
When you stop stealing (“Canadian” Wheat Board) from WESTERN farmers (’cause EASTERN farmers aren’t Canadian, apparently) you realise that you no longer have to bribe them with their own money. Ain’t economics great?
If you’re still having a problem with this, talk to Captain Capitalism. We don’t know each other, but I’m sure he’d have a good time telling you that normal corporations don’t enjoy the same revenue/profit ratios that the good ol’ “Canadian” Wheat Board does.
Again, a quick search reveals that in 2004 the Board took in just over $4 billion (4.02 or something) with $3.91 billion in profit. That’s terrific margin. Succulent even.
Happy to entertain.
Why not leave the money in the hands of the people and let them decide what their culture is by spending it on what they, not the government, believe to be worthwhile art and cultural events?
If each individual got to choose whether or not to pay an artist to drip blood out of his anus wouldn’t we be giving people more choices and more control of their own culture?
Perhaps we would do support an ‘artist’ who drips blood out of his anus, or perhaps we would all spend it on monster trucks shows.
Or beer and popcorn.
But it would be our choice, not some idiotic bureaucrat sitting on a grants board in Ottawa.
“There is absolutely no need for governments to fund the arts. Art has existed since long before anyone conceived of the idea of either government or money.”
Yes the way art has been perverted is with the idea of the “professional artist” who does nothing but their craft… Not the cave man, who drew on the wall after hunting all day, or even the Greek sculptor, who in his youth would’ve defended Sparta/Athens etc. just like every other male citizen.
I strongly support arts education for children, it has mental-development fringe benefits; but the idea of adults whose business plan consists of Applying for Canada Council Grants, just sickens me.
Former musician with University degree in music speaking here. Hey everyone’s allowed one big mistake in life. Now I work in healthcare (non-union, for commision. Saves the taxpayers money and I get paid better than a paramedic. It rocks.)
“I’m about to start haying, come and give me a hand will you!!!!!”
Ah, biff, the arrogance of the welfare junkie.
You want me to fund your lifestyle and do
your work??
Anyone comparing a farmer who actually produces something that people want and need to a subsidy based artist producing ….
If you were producing what people want, you wouldn’t be a welfare junkie.
Stan’s got the right idea:
Why not leave the money in the hands of the people and let them decide what their culture is by spending it on what they, not the government, believe to be worthwhile art and cultural events?
That should go for red rubber balls or biff’s hay.
And General, I am touched that our mental health facilities allow patients access to the
interweb.
How come I can’t get the video to play?
Pillboy…you are touched,just not the way you mean it,brain dead left wing hypocrite.
Yeh, the video has been pulled due to some bogus claim of violating the terms of use? What the hell does that mean? No porn, no violence, what else is there? Maybe the OHRC felt threatened…
The CTF’s entire You Tube channel was shut down due to copyright violations. Three BNN clips were highlighted in this revoking of the ENTIRE CHANNEL!
The red ball video is back up at the new channel, http://www.youtube.com/ctfcanada.
The video itself is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgbOr3O-3JA.
If the “art” shows are such a great revenue generator, as claimed by the “artist”, then why do they only survive on extorted taxpayer dollars?
My guess is the claim itself, that the shows are revenue generators, are simply progressive lies written by an individual or group who gets their funding from … Taxpayers!!
Maybe they should convert the big red ball into a giant condom to protect us from the screwing over we are getting from the political elite and the tax slurping useless pieces of crap that they keep giving our money to.
They could then claim they are helping society practice “Safe Tax”. That’ll make us serfs feel better about our contribution.