The recent outrage over the election of the BNP — a racist, whites-only party — to the European Parliament has been propelled almost exclusively by the power of the word “racist.” The word is obviously an apt description of certain BNP candidates, but it is too pat to suffice as a description of those who voted for them or for the complex social forces in play. When it comes to the BNP’s gains, the proverbial elephant in the room is not race, but rather citizens’ concerns about a creeping Islamism; the BNP is functionally the only party that — perhaps by default, or incidental to their racist ideals — addresses the issue openly.
One need only read the endless chains of comments under online British newspaper stories to know that large numbers of Brits who, by their own word, didn’t and never would vote for the BNP, have had longstanding concerns about creeping Islamism on British soil, and are angry that the ruling classes, whether out of fear or complacency, have not only comprehensively refused to acknowledge or address their concerns in any real way, but have abetted in portraying those holding those concerns as pariahs and – yes — racists; the real concerns of the citizens, in other words, are illegitimate, ill-founded and dismissable.
BNP leader Nick Griffin was charged with incitement after the BBC secretly filmed him condemning Islam. Despite being utterly unrepentant in his view at the trial, a jury found him and his co-charged not guilty. This wasn’t acceptable to those-who-rule. Mick Hume:
On hearing of this disgraceful display of independent thinking by the jurors of Yorkshire, New Labour and the rest of the anti-racist establishment immediately threw all of its toys out of the pram. No less a figure than chancellor Gordon Brown, prime minister in waiting and a man not noted for hot-blooded political speeches, immediately intimated to the BBC that this sort of thing would not be tolerated on his watch. ‘I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we have got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. And if that means we have got to look at the laws again, then we will have to do so.’
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If there is one thing worse (and a lot worse) than the feeble far-right, it is the state using that little political faction as the pretext for another political clampdown on liberty and democracy. After all, it is not the BNP that is now planning to introduce new laws further to limit freedom of expression, laying down new rules about what we are allowed to say about religion, or floating ideas in high places about the ‘problem’ of jury trials. Griffin can only vent his illiberal prejudices at private meetings of his party activists. The government has the power to try to turn its illiberal prejudices into public custom and law.
When British police take to the streets to protect mobs of men calling for the death of Jews, or dhimmis, or the Pope, while opponents of Islam are in hiding, or are charged by the government, or barred from entering the country, a certain number of citizens are going to see their only chance for representation in whoever will address the issue, however vile their other views may be. As Richard Pendlebury of the Daily Mail put it:
Almost overnight, it is no longer a matter of what the BNP is – a marginal group with a rotten ideological core – but what it is not.
It’s a lesson that the ruling class in Europe is learning the hard way.
The BNP represents a political force that many mainstream Brits dislike but look to as the only party that will address their concerns over the creeping islamification of Britain.
They’ll vote for them in numbers sufficient to get them to a point where the mainstream parties will have to deal with the islamic elephant in Britain’s immigration living room.
People are willing to buck the politically correct Labor/Liberal crowd for some common sense, even if it comes tinged with unsavory elements.
“They’ll vote for them in numbers sufficient to get them to a point where the mainstream parties will have to deal with the Islamic elephant in Britain’s immigration living room.”
Exactly.
That article described, in a nutshell, how political cranks (or ‘cranks’) get into power.
Nick Griffin was secretly filmed by the BBC at a meeting where he condemned Islam, he was charged with incitement.
If Nick Griffin is at a private political meeting with people sharing his views, how can it possibly be incitement?
If this becomes the new standard of incitement in Britain, then I expect every Imam at every Mosque in the UK will, with Gordon Brown’s personal imprimatur, soon be in chains./sarc
And thus the system, having been disturbed from its equilibrium position to the degree that its mitigation setpoint is triggered, overcomes its hysteresis and begins a phase transition. This is just the way it should be, for without the hysteresis one ends up with all these noise transitions, and that really wastes enthalpy, yet still it must be possible to overcome the hysteresis when mitigation is appropriate, and now it is, and it is. Ah, I love it when a plan comes together.
Sounds dangerous, isn’t it? Ha-ha, at least they are doing something:
DEMOCRACY – letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best.
On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues.
The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.
Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people.
We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.
ENVIRONMENT – a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms.
We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage.
“The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan.
In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
FOREIGN AID – time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid.
We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning.
The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
PENSIONERS – pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace.
We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions.
Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
HEALTH – first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens.
We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention – low pay.
We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
EUROPE – back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures.
At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket – political unification.
Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us.
Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
ECONOMY – British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them.
Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers.
When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people.
To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants.
Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes
LAW AND ORDER – crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly.
The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims.
We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
IMMIGRATION – time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.
To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.
We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
Maybe they clean their own moats.
Vitruvius:
Agreed. It is the hysteretic character of the BNP (nobody knows how big a “fly in the ointment” the BNP might become) that makes this interesting. With any luck, we’ll see some cranial exothermic enthalpy from Britons, ie, perhaps they’ll get “hot under the collar” and actually do something to climb back up the thin end of the Britishlamic wedge.
Aaron, please don’t post an entire article/screed. If you can’t help yourself, at least include a link or, barring that, identify the source of the piece — newspaper, blog, whatever.
I’d prefer you select a choice sentence or two, then give your comment/take on it.
When one factors out the chaotic dynamics, Aureus Puer,
political trends are strangely similar to Focault pendulums:
they keep swinging back and forth, even as history rotates
under them.
Apparently the British People are aware of the bizarreness of the ruling political elite and are even willing to vote for odious parties to send a message that they must stop being crazy and destructive, or else bring about the rise of something, well, crazy and destructive, thus pretty much continuing the crazy situation, except with change.
The message for the Leftist political elites: Stop exalting Islamists above all who are non-Islamic. Stop persecuting innocent, freedom-of-expression-practicing non-Muslims to appease hateful, inciteful, rights-abusing Muslims.
I don’t know very much about this party.
But I remember the years and years that the compassionate left in Canada showed great amounts of “tolerance” to us Westerners by insinuating we were racists… and sexists… and Bible bangin’, gun-totin’ rednecks and, well, just plain “icky people.”
Mzzzzzzz. May still likes to imply we’re icky. I think Dion did too, but I’m not sure, because I couldn’t understand a damn word that Donald Duck was saying.
It’s to be expected…
From the More Vibrant Tales from Zinnlandia department:
“It was almost funny, when a left-leaning German journalist recently confessed that she had moved from West Berlin to East Berlin (for various reasons West Berlin has many foreigners and few skinheads, whereas in East Berlin it is the opposite). She embraced multiculti with all her heart, yet the conditions at school for her daughter just became unbearable, and forced her to seek out the protection of the skinheads against the foreigners by moving to East Berlin. She recognized all this very well, and was feeling terribly guilty for betraying her ideals, yet the circumstances forced her to do so.
Hmm- I’d reject the pendulum metaphor, vitruvius, for that suggests, to me at least, that the system returns to a previous state. Now, that might happen in a cyclical lifespan, where a tree is dormant in winter, then moves into spring and summer, and then, in the fall, returns to a dormant stage.
But societies don’t do that. Modern societies, at least those with a middle class, are not stable but are open to adaptive change.
What we see here is that a systemic structure is moved, by energy input (population increase is energy input; so is non-normative behaviour)beyond its organizational capacities..then, at the precise ‘far-from-equilibrium’ moment, the system will flip and switch to a different mode of organization.
What is interesting is that the articulation of this new mode – and by that I mean the new laws, the analysis, etc – usually comes AFTER the flip in structure. Not before. So, the analysis of the role of the middle class, the laws that protected that class, etc..came after, in the 17th and 18th and 19th c the actual emergence of that class in the 14th and 15th and 16th c.
What I think we are seeing here is the development of a new global societal structure, a global network, made up of various key hubs of economic and political influence. Note – the links and sub-hubs or nodes of this global network are NOT equal in power. We are not moving to a global realm of equality, for equality of forms is only found in a bowl of congealed jello.
Yeah, ET, but what goes around comes around.
Edward: do you have a link, or the name of the site/paper/book that excerpt is from?
vitruvius, ‘goes around comes around’ is valid only if you are dealing with the same energy content. You can certainly melt a bowl of jello. But, can you deconstruct a strawberry-rhubarb oatmeal-butter topped crisp?
What if the energy being processed increases by virtue of decreasing its temporal values (eg, so that the metablism goes faster)or by increasing its mass (an elephant is larger than a mouse) – beyond the capacity of a particular structure to process that energy? Wouldn’t you then have to change the actual morphology? The single celled bacterium would morph into a complex multicellular organism…
Fascinating metaphors, ET. I think I get your meaning though. One just has to think about it a bit and see the application.
Just speaking for myself, I know pretty much -nothing- about the BNP other than what I get from the media. Which I know for a fact is total horse poopy.
Therefore, I can only say I have no time for people who hate Muslims. Life is too short, kids.
I also have no time for people wanting to use the power of government (aka naked force)to make me do things their way, be they Leftists, Muslims, Christians or whatever new form of idiocy may be hatched in the future.
So, should the BNP be proposing to limit immigration and punish bad behavior regardless of race, religion and what have you, I’m for that. Should they be proposing to march all the wogs into the English Channel, that’s going to be a problem.
If we stay within our species, ET, for the sake of discussion, there are I think very deep consistencies that oscillate between bi- or multi-stable states on a historic scale. From time to time, for example, we, as a net winning force (unless one’s on the losing side, of course), implement some changes pursuant to some plan X. Needless to say, after a time, or a few times anyway, we overdo it. Eventually, folks start to catch on, and so we begin a de-implementation methodology. Which we eventually overdo, and bada bing bada boom, ’round and ’round we go. Even as your thermodynamic model rotates under us. Which, as I hope you can now see, is why the Foucault analogy is so elegant, at least in a clever-boy sense.
And which leads to my famous aphorism: “Humans do two things: they try to make their lives better, and they try to fix the problems that were caused by the last time they tried to make their lives better”.
The elephant in the room that is being ignored by the elegant marxists of Britain is that their bending over backwards to provide cover to encourage radical Islam to drive all religious morality from the public square has come a cropper by pissing off the British working class Labour Party voter of all races and origins.
Some voting BNP is an irritation to their betters, not voting for Labour at all in large numbers is a catastrophe.
Backlash in Britain …. looks like the toilet is backing up!
…get yer Wellies out…
vitruvius – yes, I fully agree with you. I’m talking about something completely different, which is the morphological form of a species, and I include societies as a ‘species’.
So, for example, I think that a tribe is a different species of homo sapiens organization than a democracy. The internal ‘parts’, i.e., cells or homo sapiens, are the same. But the morphology of organization of these cells (humans) is quite different.
Your outline discusses, I think, what is going on in a ‘bricolage’ mode of organization (I wish you’d read Karl Popper’s The Open Society and Its Enemies)…which operates exactly as you say, by ‘piecemeal’ tactics, where a government and a people are not focused on a utopain ideal, nor even a state of happiness. Only an attempt to reasonably improve the life of the population, using approaches which are pragmatic, open to adaptation. So, when these attempts go too far in one direction, they will swing back to a more realistic and attainable agenda..
Obama, for example, is a utopian elitist, who is operating via a blueprint, which he or his backroom handlers want to instil. Whether it will benefit the people, whether the people want it, is irrelevant. The blueprint is supreme over reality.
Aha! It’s the old “societies as a ‘species'” trick, 99.
Chief: the Cone of Silence! “It doesn’t work, Max”.
Closest to port? Are they acquainted with Jamsine Macdonnell or the Bishop of Norfolk?
Crap!! Hit preview before post! Jasmine Macdonnell..
and Vit, I’ll keep milking this as long as I can..
Phantom, I don’t know how hot it’s going to get in many European capitals in the next decade, but I have a feeling that “marching wogs into the English channel” will seem tame by comparison with what is going to happen in this clash for civilization..
Many people think (as before) that once the public has voted enough people like the BNP to power, the traditional ruling elites will come to their senses and things will go back to normal.
Not this time.
The old bosses of Europe are going to be on the outside looking in at a different order, a different kind of politics, based around historic nationalism.
It will get uglier, I promise you.I go to many European cities for business and I get the straight dope from people there.They are fed up.Fed up with the socialist elites, the cow towers, the cultural rapists and the Islamists.They are tired and getting a very large chip on their shoulder that soon they will be begging to have knocked off.
Vitruvius & ET:
I don’t know whether to worry about myself because I understand what you are saying or to worry about our society because I know that many cannot.
I agree with you Kursk. The ruling elites are what they are. An adjustment on their part is not likely to happen. They will hold on and either prevail or get run over by what is coming. We humans do not seem to do the middle ground thing very well.
Option 3, dkjones: Why worry?
What, could you fix it, anyway?
The “hard way” that Europeans learn is by Canadian troops tossing packages of Player’s into the the street.
Everyone deserves a second chance. Nobody deserves a third.
et/vit; on drugs or should be!!
The BNP are not a “far right” party, the are a “far left” one. Outside the fact that their racism is overt, their policies on a cradle to grave welfare state are the same as those of Gordon “British jobs for British workers” Brown. Think of them as nationalist Labourites and you’ll have a more accurate view. That’s why their two MEP seats came from Labour strongholds.
Ha-ha, gotcha! Not a single one of you actually read the BNP policies and platform. Otherwise you, EBD, would have immediately recognized where I quoted from. Odious party my ass! They speak for at least 6% of the Englishmen and women fed up to the teeth with the scum of the Earth being dumped on their front lawn, all while they have to work their ass off to feed and provide medical care to that scum, who insists on blowing their hosts up.
At least BNP is doing something!
I dont worry o much about it
1) Isnt this what is supposed to happen when you get Proportional representation systems….fringe groups win. Left, right, nutty or sensible it happens
2) They won 2 seats in the European Parliament….tell me again why that puts them in the anteroom of power
Now. There is a bit of “I told you so” going on. The “Broken Britain” movement has been bubbling for a few years now. It is NOT synonymous with the BNP but the BNP picks up some themes. Labour has ruled the roost for awhile and has ignored and in fact denigrated “britishness” without proper explaination. Stomping on folk festivals and memories and myths, largely squishing the rural over the urban.
It is hardly a surprise that there is a response. Especially in Europe when you think that the “aboriginals” of Europe are Europeans. I dont justify it, it just is what it is. Any reasonable government would recognize the state of its society and govern accoringly. But the expereince of most of the government is in the Superurban melting pot of London. Even the second and theird largest cities have significant, immigrant populations. But it drops off in the suburbs and anywhere else.
Trying to make Britain into a North American country is difficult. Here, we have enough trouble but do it relatively successfully. Being Canadian is a political idea not birth certificate one. The locally born idea is stronger in Britain but not complete, stronger in Italy and France.
We will see how discredited the Boken Britain movement becomes, or if the movement finds a voice away from the BNP. The cons have courted the idea. There are big things brewing and it isnt just in Britain. There are uglier natavists in Hungary and Italy.
Abandoning the legitimate concerns of the population to the ultra nationalists is a mistake. They will ride those concerns to something bigger. I repeat, there are legitimate concerns here but they need a mainstream, non looney voice.
“It’s a lesson that the ruling class in Europe is learning the hard way.”
Fine. But why do the wankers need to learn it more than once?
Kursk and Stephen: If groups like the BNP were given a free hand ‘right now’, we could probably avoid the worst of the backlash. Probably. Unfortunately, that’s not going to be allowed to happen, as the politicos play their games.
The long-term consequences are not something I care to contemplate, but that I know more and more people are already aware of.
Kursk
If WWII Redux is what the Eurotards are after, I think they best learn to goosestep cause we ain’t bailing them out again. Twice was more than enough.
If they can’t behave themselves then they’ll have to be abandoned to their fate. I see no reason why we have to keep dying on European battlefields to save people who aren’t worthy of the sacrifice.
That said, the idea that fighting Islamist colonialism is “racist” or in any way bad is dense. There is a difference between the racist notion that no one but white dudes can stay and the notion that if you come, you must assimilate. I have no problem with expulsion of all who refuse to tow the line. After all, it isn’t the majority of “immigrants” who are the problem. It’s the islamists, many of the worst of whom where UK born and aren’t even immigrants.
“the proverbial elephant in the room is not race, but rather citizens’ concerns about a creeping Islamism; ”
I reiterate: the backlash was not primarily against Islamism but against old line political elitism. Modern Euro political elitism is just an administrative reworking of the old aristocracy’s doctrine of enlightened absolutism or benevolent despotism.
I’ll wager many a Brit had to compromise their personal opinion of BNP policy to vote for them but the message sent was that the establishment political class disrespect the majority and are not responsive to the majority will.
I cite the official response to Islamic terrorist cells operating in the UK. Normally a responsible government would surveil and investigate the few sources that produce such narrow discriminative extremist violence but instead they use this threat to lock down the majority. Everyone in Britain is a suspect if the intrusive public surveillance and pseudo-martial law policies are any indication.
Brits are repressed by their government and they are lashing out at the oppressors. That is the old line parties who support these civilly repressive paranoid public policies.
I think that Brits understand that by sending BNP to European Parliament is a safe way to send a message to the elite – back off. There is little chance of BNP ideals ever effecting EU policy.
But I can’t see angry voters being silly enough to send BNP extremism into 10 downing street. I think the protest voter realizes that BNP is as bad a solution as the problem.
As I said, this was a warning from the middle class that intrusive elitist civilly unresponsible politics are no longer tolerable. I suspect the UK will see a large majority Conservative government soon and the BNP will remain in the marginal fringes with the other nutters.
“I suspect the UK will see a large majority Conservative government soon and the BNP will remain in the marginal fringes with the other nutters.”
For that to work, there has to be a conservative alternative to turn to. Cameron is Labour-lite and is no conservative.
Aaron at 8:46 AM ~ Ha-ha, gotcha! Not a single one of you actually read the BNP policies and platform…Odious party my ass!
I read the BNP platform on Sunday, and I completely agree with you. Most of their positions deal with motherhood issues that many agree on but no party seems to be able to implement.
So the only bold statement they’re making is about immigration, and the lefties are obviously terrified that, on this point, the BNP have quite a following. The lefties should be terrified because Brits are starting to wake up and lash back even in the face of the usual hysterical shouts of racism.
Scrib,
I think the BNP will burn itself out. It isnt racism that is fuelling this….it is a “values” thing. Unlike Italy where it is more overtly “nativist”. Britain has a long history of accomodation to others, as long as they become British. This is like the US, in some ways. Pledge the oath, buy into the myths and fly the flag and largely you’ll be accepted (notable exceptions granted). Britain is similar, what is appeneing though is in the last few years there has been a denigration of British folk culture..the essence of Britishness.
This is going to sound familiar to some Canadians, it was sold as being open to others but became a denial of self. Now you run into problems with things like St Georges Day…which includes a Turk as a villian (there is history behind that). But rather than explain it gets banned, although most take it as harmless.
Small example but illustrative.
There will be expulsions from Europe, it is a question of which country will do it first. I used to think Italy. Not sure anymore.
Like Kursk I hear it from Europeans I meet on trips. I have said this before but if you are connected into an Italian community, who always have good contacts back to extended family in the old country, ask them whats going on. What are their male cousins doing, who is joining the “police force”.
The legitimate concerns need to be addressed or they will emerge with uglier fellow travellers. Not a crisis, yet, but it is a foreseeable and predictable outcome. I have been making this comment for a couple of years now. I am disturbed that it is moving to the next stage.
Kursk, I agree with you. Europe has a long an bloody history of over-reacting to things, which came to a head in the 20th Century and killed 100+ million people. I include Stalin in this, because his government was fundamentally identical to Hitler’s. An outside observer would notice no functional difference between them.
I would very much like to see the Europeans LEARN SOMETHING, finally, about totalitarian governance. Primarily that it is incredibly destructive of human life. To date it appears they have learned precisely nothing.
voltaire’s bastard, I also agree with you. People don’t care about Islamism per-se, they care that the cops won’t arrest the little cruds burning their cars. They care that the call to prayer is sounding five times a day in their formerly quiet little French village. They care that Gordon Brown is making it illegal to complain about “Asian” thugs taking over the middle of Luton.
My fear is that some unscrupulous, evil men are going to use that discontent, to milk it, get themselves into office on the strength of it and then kill a bunch of people. That’s what I’m afraid the BNP may be doing, Aaron’s trolling to the contrary.
The thing Europeans seem to fear more than anything else is a lapse in the control of the underclasses by government. The sad truth is the government could vanish tomorrow and most of their problems with the Muslims would vanish along with it. European government have killed more people faster than mere anarchy could ever hope to do.
The situation we have in Caledonia is a perfect microcosm of the general problem. Without the OPP intervening in their hundreds, the DCE would never have been taken over by the Mohawk Warriors. The house owners and their neighbors would have settled it with the Mohawks in under a week. If the OPP were allowed to actually apply the existing law, again the situation would have been resolved the first week. Two or three agitators would be jailed, everybody else would go home.
Instead, we have a corrupt provincial (and possibly corrupt federal) government justice apparatus keeping this thing stuck, on purpose, illegally, for three years now. Provocations from the Mohawk side are relentless and ever increasing. Sooner or later something bad is going to happen (and by bad I mean Israel/Palestine kinda bad), there will be bad feelings over it for at least a generation or two, and the whole thing could have been avoided by letting people settle it man to man, with fisticuffs or even firearms if necessary. A couple of guys shot in a biker brawl is no big deal. A couple hundred people killed and a town ruined in a race-based war is a big deal.
We had a list of un-Conservative things the CPC has been doing. Letting this thing fester is right up near the top.
Europe is Caledonia writ large. Its idiotic, and incredibly dangerous.
I think Kursk is right insomuch as it’s going to get MUCH worse before it gets better.
One thing to remember, however, is that the states of Europe are the only ones holding firearms at the moment. The people, particularly Britons, have been disarmed. Britons, therefore, cannot effectively take matters into their own hands; they have no mechanism to defend against a warring state. The *possibility* of state actions against citizens deemed “enemies of the state” is reason behind the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
The absence of arms paves the way for creeping to total state control. Disarming the populace is a key component of totalitarianism of all flavours.
Canadians ought to take note.
Do someting, “Phantom”. I am begging you, please do something! For years I am just hearing typing on the keyboards with exactly zero action. The line chart of “conservative” activity is parallel to the X axis and is at the height of 0 above it.
At least BNP is doing something. They will mistake, as to err is human and only the one who does nothing makes no mistakes. Those mistakes will be captured by the people, who will criticize the BNP and cause it to change its course, as well as the other parties to capitalize on their mistakes.
But at least they are doing something.
If my activity is ‘trolling’ I will be wearing the title of troll with pride. It’s better than armchair quarterbacking.
Voltaire’s Bastard, I don’t disagree with your 10:28 post, and as far as I can tell you’re not making a contrary case to the one I made, appearances to the contrary notwithstanding.
You began by quoting my statement that “the proverbial elephant in the room is not race, but rather citizens’ concerns about a creeping Islamism,” and replied, “the backlash was not primarily against Islamism but against old line political elitism.”
I agree with you that the backlash was primarily against old-line political elitism. One — just one — of the things that people are angry about is the unwillingness of the political elites to reflect their concerns about the — in effect — state-enforced double-standard that allows Islamists to freely scream and preach for murder and genocide — with police protection, typically — on the streets, in the Mosques, in front of Westminster Cathedral and Buckingham Palace while the Islands’ original inhabitants are legally charged, or forced to lay low, for simply voicing generalized opposition to the anti-British force that is creeping Islamism.
This backlash against old-line political elitism cannot be described, however, as the elephant in the room in the sense that such opposition may be openly expressed and, more to the point, is *allowed* to be openly expressed, so in that sense, it’s not the proverbial “elephant in the room,” a phrase which refers to something that no one is supposed to mention or talk about, i.e. something that the mention of is socially proscribed.
Again, I don’t disagree, and nothing I said in my post was contrary to, anything you said, as far as I can tell.
Aaron, what you’re suggesting is that starting a “we hate the Indians” party is better than sitting around doing “nothing” in Caledonia.
That makes you not even a troll. You are an agent provocateur, and not a subtle one.