Frank Valeriote does not favour a coalition government and instead hopes Prime Minister Stephen Harper can work toward rescuing the Canadian economy.
“I believe in working toward a solution, not working toward a coalition,” Guelph’s Liberal MP said Wednesday.
Valeriote added he does not believe a Liberal-NDP coalition, with support from the Bloc Quebecois, will unseat the Tories.
Update – Here come the Cossacks to the rescue!
The book was visible on the CTV news with Lloyd Robertson.
The book is over Dion’s Right shoulder. Top left of your screen.
Stephen, we will know when the Liberals start demonizing him, which is inevitable.
Looks like if this does not go through I look for the following narrative.
“Never really any intent to try to steal power, just wanted to get the PM to listen you see. All we ever wanted was to work together and get a little respect. Really if it wasn’t for the fact that Harper wasnt such bully and a control freak we never would have had to have concocted this whole fake power grab. Really.
This is effectively the end of the federal NDP, which will merge with the LPC at some point and probably soon because their socialist credentials is all but in tatters… Either that or Layton follows the same path as Rae and defects to the Liberals. How can he remain a New Democrat? He championed a roll back of the $50 billion corporate tax cut… I mean, that’s quite a significant promise to just break on a whim like that. It tells his supporters that he actually doesn’t really stand for anything. I mean, to just walk away from it just like that, and for a symbolic cabinet position? Truth is, the NDP realize they’ll never form government. This partnership gives them a taste of power… a little bit, but enough to get drunk on. They’ll merge like the CA and PC parties did. Just you watch. Oh, one or two diehards may peel away in protest, maybe sit as independents. But the vast majority will go along. Again, for the NDP — at least this current crop — to have just walked away from something as significant as $50 billion shows that they can so easily be bought and paid for. And doesn’t that make them suitable Liberal candidates in the next election?
I don’t know about that. I think he could be making a name for himself, but your speculation is possible. Also, I don’t mean to reduce him by saying he’s making a name for himself.
If he does that by doing the right thing and standing up for Canada, I can more than live with it.
Jon, you’re totally wrong. Getting some power for the NDP is seen as a victory within their ranks.
It’s potentially damaging to the Liberals and a blessing to the Bloc. Those two being related, of course.
Next step for a majority – all MPs must swear allegiance to Canada.
Jon, read this. Note Ed Broadbent’s reaction. I assure you it is not uncommon in Dip-turd ranks.
CBC is really spinning this whole thing against Harper and for the 3 Stooges. And they are fanning the fires in Quebec saying that Qeerbecers are not happy with Harper labeling them all as Separatists which of course he is not.
This amazing PM has had to fight 4 opposing Partys and the immense influence of the most of the Press who consistently attack him or spin against him.
I am just sick of this BS.
I think I’ll just take advantage of my 2nd amendment right and find myself a hole somewhere and hope to hell some socialist comes looking for me.
Click on my name to see a pic of Dion with the Hot Air book over his right shoulder.
Franks email addy ??
God Bless Mr Valeriote. We in Saskatchewan must never, and I mean NEVER, let Ralph Goodale off the hook for his stand on this issue. He is an Eastern Liberal Ass Kisser and could not care less about the West. We must do all that is necessary to get his sorry ass retired for good!
valeriote.f@parl.gc.ca
Mailing Address – c/o Frank Valeriote, MP
Confederation Building, House of Commons
Rm 713
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6
Office Phone – 519-837-8276 (Guelph Riding Office)
613-996-4758 (Ottawa Office)
Fax – 519-837-8443 (Guelph Riding Office)
613-996-9922 (Ottawa Office)
E-Mail – valerf@parl.gc.ca
Brent:
That’s the original copy and I saw that, but with the replays currently running on CTV, you can only see half of that book and none of the book to the left of it.
Maybe CTV agreed to this do-over.
Anon, the NDP has no credibility left. Jack certainly doesn’t and if the party doesn’t merge then at least he defects. What does he do as NDP leader in the next election? Rail against corporate tax cuts again? Promise to role them back? Makes another whopping promise like that but this time, promise to stick by it no matter what? He’ll be laughed at.
Rick, did you also notice how CBC showed a Bloc supporter on the street who said she was upset because she feels the Bloc “has a role to play “in” government”? Their was no mention by the reporter, indeed no clips of what Duceppe has said many times himself…. that the BQ doesn’t run to be in government. It was absolutely ASTONISHING that that was not mentioned in the report. Also, Hebert continued on the Quebec-bashing theme. She said it’s dangerous for the Conservatives to attack the Bloc for playing an active role in supporting the government when it’s the BLOC THEMSELVES who have said they are against that very thing yet doing it now. Surprised Coyne didn’t respond.
The fringe is unfringing. The part of the Liberal Party with brains will put this sad and short chapter of Canadian history to rest.
I was just listening into Rob Breakenridge’s show on CHQR in Calgary. Being interviewed was Gil McGowan is, President of the Alberta Federation of Labour.
He had the audacity to say that “the Liberals and NDP are the most staunch federalists in Canada.” He said it with such conviction that I perhaps he didn’t even know how much he was lying.
How else to explain such a comment?
Why do I suspect it won’t be too much longer before Coalition supporters are saying “2 + 2 = 7” and screaming at us when we dare to disagree?!
From Mark Steyn:
To recap: the soft left (Liberals), hard left (NDP) and secessionist left (the Bloc Quebecois) have entered into a backroom agreement signed in blood (and with many billions of dollars and Senate seats changing hands) and are leaning on the Governor-General to fire the Conservative Prime Minister and replace the present government with a “coalition” – a misbegotten pantomime horse comprised of three rear ends.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTI5MTBhZjgxYzdjZTE2MzI0N2IzMzExNGIxZGViNzM=
It’s over. Warren Kinsella has (sort of) played his card – right after Valeriote goes first of course.:
“I was in Guelph last Friday for a meeting. I wish I had met Frank Valeriote then. Maybe someday soon.
Here’s another brave man, Michael Chong, from the other side of the aisle. We were at a wonderful Sikh wedding last weekend, and Michael was there – and I can attest to the fact that he, too, is a very impressive person.
We need more MPs like these two in the House of Commons, don’t you think?”
He would have posted nothing of the sort if he was in with the Cabal.
My sense is that unless Stephen Harper has to prorogue tomorrow because of the parliamentary rules he will not but rather wait for more defections.
It was said of Lyndon Johnson that his greatest skill was his ability to count noses accurately. In all his years as Senate Majority leader he always had the votes counted coreectly and only allowed a vote to happen when he knew had enough.
I hope the whip (jay hill?) or someone else has a similar accumen and will be able to reliably say whether Stephen Harper has enough votes/abstentions to win on Monday or Pro-rogue. He cannot lose that vote – especially now that he has said he will do whatever he can to keep the government in place.
people get real…
We hate you all… wait for 2-3 more months and Gilles Duceppe will be Prime Minister of Canada..
He will simply rename Canada to Quebec… don’t assume it is not going to happen..
We are going to rule you.
Soon every francophone will have a anglo slave.
i’ll be laughing… ah ah ah
Dave in Guelph – thanks for Frank’s email. Thankyou sent!
Goodale took a stand on the issue? I thought he was too busy taking care of his constituants in some province that wasn’t Saskatchewan?
“After that address by Dion, I am having a difficult time being serious about this comedy coalition. The three stooges with an entourage of adoring media and the cheerleading team headed by uber-separatist Parizeau.”
Speaking of the coalition and adoring media, the Globe and Mail news site is now moderating comments, which may not show up there for 24 hours, if at all.
YET, Scott Reid, who is a Liberal strategist and has a vitriolic tongue, worse than vitriolic, according to a report by Charles Adler…Yes, Scott Reid wrote a column about this coalition coup for the Globe and Mail news site. The Globe and Mail must know Scott Reid by now.
Here’s the ever subtle and eloquent Liberal strategist, Scott Reid, according to Charles Adler:
“After all, Stephen Harper is the most dangerous animal lurking in the jungles of Parliament, writes Scott Reid. Kill him. Kill him dead. Do not, whatever you do, provide him with an opportunity to extend his hold on power. Because you can be damn certain he will never again be so reckless as to give you a chance to finish him off. ..The other elephant in the room is leadership. Stephane Dion has bargained his way to the drive wheel of the new government. Good for him, but only if it suits the greater good. If Mr. Dion can make his case, then great. If he can’t, move to an alternative – and do it fast. Mr. Harper knows that his greatest advantage lies in Mr. Dion’s weakness. The coalition can’t let that impulse triumph. Don’t permit the defeat of Mr. Harper to depend upon Mr. Dion’s personal credibility – or that of any single individual, for that matter. There’s too much at stake.”
Scott Reid’s “soul.”
“When it comes to swear allegiance to the Queen, what will the Bloc do?”
Yell Sacre Bleu!
This should wait for the “reader tips” post, but I’ll be asleep by then (damned work)
over 202,000 votes so far for an online petition (that appears to have all of the necessary fields to be considered a valid petition) saying that, as voters, we don’t want the last election nullified.
Read, consider, sign if you agree (and have not signed already). And spread the word.
http://www.petitiononline.com/CANADIAN/petition.html
eh, QS, you laugh fonny. “You t’ink its izzy to spell in da Franch dialect?”
You can tell by the reaction from the media arm of the Lieberal party (CTV) just how much respect you seperatiste types are held in. As in, even the in-the-tank MSM hates your guts.
Go shrivel up somewhere cold,
Gord Tulk,
I think Kinsella is very disappointed with Iggy, hence the post you referenced.
I hate WK at times, because he’s on the ‘other’ side and he’s good at what he does. But he’s a fighter, and you have to respect that.
Ditto for Chretien.
Iggy, on the other hand, is a turtle. The chips are down, and the guy has made like Houdini.
You can’t put steel in someone’s spine.
So WK’s left to compliment a backbench Liberal MP who has a pair, when everyone else has handed them over to Layton and Dion.
Kinsella is a pro… so he’s still refusing to allow posts on his site, making fun of his Iggy web banners on the side of his own page, where Iggy is described as “STRONG” and “UNITED”. But it’s obvious where his head is.
Yesterday, WK urged people to do the right thing, so that they might get a good night’s sleep.
I don’t think WK’s sleeping too well these days… because he hasn’t brought himself to tell the world what he thinks of Iggy and the rest of the Liberals are doing to Canada and his party.
While I’m glad the MP from Guelph has made the right choice, it’s clear that he’s only looking out for number one, because he’s the same guy who was advocating for “uniting the left” during the by-election in Guelph!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWtmMNJfDVs
Cripes! This is the most attention Guelph’s gotten since Gwen Jacobs strolled down Grodon Street.
Which my senior citizens were witness to. According to my Mum, she was strolling about like she was rather proud of herself. According to my Dad, Hummana Hummana, Hummana!!!
Cripes! This is the most attention Guelph’s gotten since Gwen Jacobs strolled down Grodon Street.
Which my senior citizen parents were witness to. According to my Mum, she was strolling about like she was rather proud of herself. According to my Dad, Hummana Hummana, Hummana!!!
When WK is so conflicted about his party, the Liberals should know they have crossed the line.
Good for Warren Kinsella.
If there was ever a time for giving credit where credit is due, it’s right now. He’s on the right side on this one, and at a critical time.
We have a lifetime to excoriate him, later on, on other issues.
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Here too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmddfJiQmmo
The MSM are now trying to silence Canadians. Don’t call the Separatists, Separatists. That might upset the Separatists, who’s constitution states their goal is to Separate Quebec from Canada. OH,OH we better start sending out the cheques to Quebecers or they might have a temper tantrum and hit us all with the false threat that they might Separate. Does anybody actually beleive that charade any more? Maybe if we spend 100s of billions of dollars forcing french on an English nation we might be able to convince them to stay. Yeah, go ahead and separate and see how long you’re Tribalism lasts without the bank of Canada paying fot it.
Valeriote won by what? a 150 votes. There are about 30 to 40 LP MPs who are very, very scared that they will be unemployed before June. The abandonment starts tomorrow. Dion’s performance (or lack of it) tonight may have just made the number grow to well over twenty.
If the GG is a stand in for the Queen of England then can we not petition the Queen to overstep her representative and deal with this insurrection on her own. The Bloc would be thrilled.
Kinsella, like his mentor, leads from the back of the column. Once the outcome is in the bag he moves right out in front. Opportunist and not much more.
How do you think Iggy feels about the endorsement? Well, let’s see what Count Pavel Ignatiev would say about the Bolshevisks shall we?
From Wikipedia:
Ignatieff is the son of Canadian diplomat George Ignatieff (Russian: Георг Игнатьев) and Alison Grant, and the grandson of Count Pavel Ignatiev (Russian: Павел Игнатьев), Minister of Education to Tsar Nicholas II and one of the few Tsarist ministers to have escaped execution by the Bolsheviks. His Canadian antecedents include his maternal great grandfather, George Monro Grant, the 19th century principal of Queen’s University. His mother’s younger brother was the political philosopher George Grant (1918-1988), author of Lament for a Nation. His great-grandfather was Count Nikolay Pavlovich Ignatyev (Russian: Николай Игнатьев), the Russian Minister of the Interior under Tsar Alexander III. In his book called The Russian Album, Ignatieff explores the importance of memory and obligation to ancestry in the context of his own family’s history. Ignatieff is fluent in both English and French, and has a basic knowledge of Russian, the native language of his father.
I’ve just had a hateful Radical Left commenter (Anonymous of course) criticize this posting: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/constitutional-legitimacy-vs-democratic.html
He said two telling things:
1. Because I’m an engineer and not a Law Professor, I have absolutely no right to an opinion about this matter. Can you say Liberal Elitist?
2. My strident belief that Democratic Legitimacy is as important, if not even more important, than Constitutional Legitimacy is completely invalid. Can you say Supporter of Totalitarian Regimes?
Where on earth were the Radical Left thugs in our country educated? Were they all kicked around in their childhood and are now seeking their revenge?
CTV’s Rosemary Thompson ran an equally misleading piece tonight suggesting that Harper is threatening national unity by his attacks on the Bloc’s decision to prop up the coalition government… again, like CBC, not mentioning that Duceppe himself has said many times that the Bloc doesn’t run to prop up the federal gov’t because he says it’s antithetical to advancing sovereignty.
Also in her piece a Quebecer was interviewed and of Mr. Harper’s actions said “it’s prejudice”. An analyst that followed added more blame to Harper. The entire theme was that Harper is threatening the stability of the country. The MSM is the one fanning the flames on this matter. They can easily diffuse it by playing back Duceppe’s own words that the Bloc doesn’t run to be in government. And they can also tell Quebecers to grow up, to stop accusing the RoC of being anti-French when we get upset that a separatist party will gain legislative power while a duly elected PM who ran in EVERY DAMN PART OF THIS COUNTRY is completely stripped of his!
That’s GORDON Street. Right by where the Red Lobster used to be. That’s where my senior citizen parents saw Gwen Jacobs have her big, old, floppy boobs flashing about. This was something like 14 years ago…so apparently there’s no Youtube video kicking around.
Sure.
She won’t do squat, but sure.
BTW, if you live in the west, or if you have various feeds from different time zones, be SURE — please, even if you’re otherwise disinclined — to check out the first seven or eight minutes of tonight’s National. It’s the worst yet.
CBC, in a desperate hope to influence events, has gambled on an outcome. Whoops. If the subject of this thread is any indication of what’s to come, they may well and truly — finally — pay for it.
Michael Ignatieff has a chance now to do the right thing and stop this coalition nonsense. More than that, he would probably save the country and his own party.
When WK is so conflicted about his party, the Liberals should know they have crossed the line.
Posted by: Ryan at December 3, 2008 11:17 PM
Meh. WK has been “conflicted” about his party since Martin took power and he was booted from the inner circle of the LPC elite. He’s been in a perpetual political hissy fit since. I don’t give him any credit for his stance on the current crisis, right as it may be, as I’m certain it’s motivated only by his desire to re-enter the LPC inner circle and back into the machinery of political power.
jon – the crucial argument against the Bloc’s role in being the Essential powerbroker in this coalition, is that it, as a political party, is electorally out of reach of over 80% of the Canadian population.
That in itself, is what makes it untenable. You are setting up a government, where all decisions must be vetted by a party whose members are unelectable by over 80% of the population affected by those decisions.
THAT’S the problem – not simply their agenda of separatism..which is, by the way, just a cover. Quebec has no intention of separating; the goodies from the Canadian taxpayer are indispensable to their way of life.
Absolutely right, Belisarius. If Ignatieff’s primary concern pertains to ensuring that a portrait of Stephane Dion up on the wall in perpetuity — can you say memento mori? — he’ll support the coalition. If he’s concerned about his candidacy, and, more importantly, the long-term prospects of the Liberal party as federalists and centrists, he’ll do something…dramatic. Say, tomorrow.
Quebec Separatist A.K.A. Quebecois Separatiste:
In English, “Ha Ha Ha” would be the correct spelling, not “ah ah ah.”
“Ah ah ah” is what we say before we say “Choo.”
I don’t think you’ll be ruling anyone any time soon.