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I once saw a survey of reporters and media workers that indicated about 85% supported either the Liberals or NDP. Don’t recall the precise breakdowns. Surprise, surprise. It was cited in a book by Peter Desbarats called “Understanding Canadian Media” in a chapter on, natch, media bias.
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Kate,
I think you were referring to this:
http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2005/01/cbc-board-of-directors-political-contributions-by-party/
So much for Fox being the evil republican mouthpiece…
I cannot believe that Fox give to the dems and not the GOP.
What is the source of that information. I cannot believe it.
I think part of the issue is that Fox News is on the GOP payroll, so they have no need to give them any $ in the form of contributions (they would just be giving them back their own money!)….
Standard Lefty Reply: “Well, that’s because conservatives are already in the back pocket of the wealthy and corporations, so things have to be balanced-out by the media.”
Hey Peter D,
What do you think is the bigger number:
1: all the liberals on Fox news, or
2: all the conservatives on every other news station, combined?
My money is on the former.
I am with John V on this one.
I am having a hard time believing these numbers.
Headline: “Obama’s 100 Times Better for You than McCain!”
This is a perfect example of that ole’ saying: “Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is”
John V – FOX is a different animal from FOX 24/7 News, they do the usual stupid network entertainment shows, so no surprise with that. They are Hollywood entertainment types. They probably never watch FOX news. Or any news for that matter.
John V, FOX is a -media company- with a “fair and balanced” -slogan-. Meaning they are advertising themselves as less than 100% biased toward the DemocRats, not that the people working in the company are less than 100% DemocRat.
As in, where are you going to find a script writer/editor/camera man/gopher/floor sweeper who isn’t trying to make it in Hollywood? They have to at least pretend to fit the mold, right? Otherwise they end up like Bo Derek, and when was the last time you saw her in a movie?
Now, this being the InterWeb natch you’ve got to take these things with a grain of salt, somebody may have pulled that out of their butt. That said, FOX is a media company, they make their money the same way all the rest of them do, and Brit Hume reads the telepromter just the same as Katey Couric.
Just as a ferinstance, compare the underlying moral compass of Bill O’Reily to a proper Conservative, and you’ll note that Bill is basically a Long Island small “l” liberal with a little street smarts grafted on. He gets a reputation by taking a hard line with the more objectionable loony Leftists, but he’s no Barry Goldwater. Listen to him talk about SUVs some time, its interesting.
I was in the Vancouver press club the day the NDP won the provincial election in the late 80’s or early 90’s (old age makes it kinda blurry)they partied like it was 1999 til about 8 the next morning. Bias, what bias? Nothing to see, here move along.
I’d be very curious to see what the Canadian numbers are.
Canadian numbers? No doubt we’d all be as equally “shocked” as Kate is with US media donor breakdown.
CF, have you looked at
http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2005/01/cbc-board-of-directors-political-contributions-by-party/
posted by Rob, above?
I realize it’s not a breakdown of the Canadian media, but it does show the political predilictions of the CBC Board of Directors, circa 2005:
Political Party donations:
82% to the Liberal Party of Canada
15% to the Bloc
3% to the Conservative Party of Canada
(I’m not sure what happened to donations to the NDP? Maybe the CBC Board of Directors realized that the NDP would never form a government…)
I’m not sure why there are posters here who don’t believe these stats. This has been the drift in the media for years. Could it be that lib-left supporters have had their heads in the sand all this time?
Yeah, but there’s no bias… right? Cue crickets.
Well, if FOX News is on the GOP Payroll then CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC/PBS/NYT are on the DNC’s Payroll. That’s Fair and Balanced ain’t it ?
,
“… where are you going to find a script writer/editor/camera man/gopher/floor sweeper who isn’t trying to make it in Hollywood? They have to at least pretend to fit the mold, right? Otherwise they end up like Bo Derek, and when was the last time you saw her in a movie?”
Good observation, Phantom.
Check out this Web site:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/23/hollywoods-conservative-underground/
It tells about a group of politically conservative and centrist Hollywood figures, who call themselves “Friends of Abe” after Abraham Lincoln, and organized by Gary Sinese and others. It’s what they themselves call an underground movement. Why “underground”? Because of fears that prominent industry titans with outspoken liberal views might retaliate. They’re reluctant to name members of the group in interviews for fear it might hurt their careers.
When I Googled Gary Sinese’s Official Web Site last night, my anti-Virus software went berzerk. I guess there are people who don’t want other people to see what Gary’s up to…
The same bias exists in Canada, I’ve only heard Canada AM mention Macain once and I think they were talking about the French fries not the Rep. Canadate.
MSM have determined Obama will win, I’m surprised they aren’t calling him Mr. President since they consider him to be it.
What ever happened to the “Fairness Doctrine” that Nancy Pelosi was pushing awhile back, because she felt that talk-radio was dominated by Conservatives?
Why doesn’t someone in the Republican camp “discuss out loud” the possiblity of setting up a Fairness Doctrine for the MSM? I would love to see the reaction to that!!!!
Or better yet, why not talk about passing a law that would ban all political contributions from Media organizations and their employees? I mean, seriously how can we count on the MSM to report important political items and discussions in a neutral way when they are so obviously supporting one party over another other?
Journalistic Integrity is an oxymoron these days so obviously fairness in the media needs to be mandated by government/law….and don’t lefties prefer government/law telling them what to do anyway? It’s a win/win as far as I’m concerned.
Honest to dog, FoxNews can’t contribute a few grand to the Republicans. They need to grow larger cojones. Everything that can be said has been said.
I sent a nasty-gram to the Wall Street Journal during the 2004 election cycle after discovering one of their reporters had donated a grand to the Democrats. Of course at the Journal, the news leans left while the editorials continue to remain libertarian.
great link batb
I think it is appropriate for anyone who supports GWB(even in Canada) to be weary of sharing those views in the work place. As I’ve mentioned before it is practically a crime to speak positively about GWB or Iraq where I work. It is not that the majority of people have a problem with my political views, it is a small group who would suppress my views yet they spew theirs like it is gospel. I have been told not to discuss these racy issues at work yet our offices bulletin boards are filled with clips from news papers supporting B.Obama and little mottos posted like “change we can believe in” ect. I suppose Obama and Democratic rhetoric is settled science and to support GWB is in fact denying what has been settled. Fortunately I work in an office with 300+ ppl, but I could easily see an employee of a small business getting canned if they supported GWB and their boss was a loon.
I’m blown away by these numbers. I double checked them with the Huffington Post’s FundRace tracker and another site that looks at donations and the numbers match up…essentially nobody in the media is donating to the Republicans.
This political discrimination I speak of at work applies to provincial politics as well. When the Station 20(not sure if that’s right) got scratched by the Sask party there was a rally soon after to show support for the project. Flyers and posters and anti Sask.Party rhetoric were posted at my work. My naivety lead me to believe that some people might be interested in knowing where the Sask.Party would be spending health care $$ so I posted an article. Unceremoniously it was removed, I don’t know by who but it wasn’t to make space.
There is also tons of AGW propaganda but I haven’t found any support for Green Shift policy yet, I don’t think anyone can be that stupid.
How could “OUR” CBC support any political party?
All the Newsies/Talking heads,Newman, et al, repeatedly tell us they don’t BELONG to any political party. That of course means nothing, they can toss a few bucks to any party they wish.
The US numbers are no surprise, the bias is played out in their media unabashedly. Ditto here.
John V: “I cannot believe that Fox give to the dems and not the GOP.”
Maybe rather than give at the office, they give at home…
Of course at the Journal, the news leans left while the editorials continue to remain libertarian.
iowavette – being a decades long WSJ reader, I would never say that their news leans left, most of it is financial news for starters, and I would hardly say the editorials are libertarian, they look pretty mainstream conservative to me.
P – You must have missed their several columns on immigration. The Journal carries general interest stories in section A. While not as maudlin as either of the LA or NY Times publications, they will cover individuals who have made poor decisions and are now living the consequences with the inference being that Big G needs to move in. Plus, the Journal shares the regrettable mainstream media penchant for hammering our Big 3 auto manufacturers. I find that unforgivable groupthink coming from the only national newspaper fit to read.
And, for my Hoosier friend, I work in the last of the truly red states. I keep the RNC calendar displayed in plain view which this month sports “W” wearing aviators and a very nice straw cowboy hat. A handsome prez he is indeed. The little Gen “Ys” scurrying around keep their thoughts to themselves. I also wander the floor carrying my “OK, McCain Then” campaign mug. I even carry it onto the union floor as I did my Bush/Cheney ’04 mug. Another of my vast conspiracy in Chicago regularly addresses the crowds waiting for the trains with embarrassing assessments of the fine young Irish lad. Even the Chicago crowd won’t argue with someone armed with the facts. So, we’re covering your back in the meantime. Think I’ll now refill my McCain mug in your honor. Oh, don’t forget. Order McCain yard signs. When I put my Bush/Cheney signs out, they blossomed throughout the neighborhood. It appeared everyone had them but were afraid to use them. We have to be bolder than the Dims or the country is lost.
“What is the source of that information. I cannot believe it.”
What, are the scales falling from your eyes regardgin your gullible belief in whatever talking points your leftard leaders feed you? I seriously doubt it. It would take more than mere facts to make you see the truth.
As an employee of General Electric, I would like to humbly apologize for the leader of this list. (Hangs head in shame and resolves to dethrone current leader).
Otherwise, GE makes excellent products that are buy-worthy.
You must have missed their several columns on immigration.
penny
“”””They got nailed in the 70’s for this same story, how stupid can you be.””””
not realy, it was american motors (the maker of small cars) that bit the bullit back then. A lot of ppl cashed in their two smaller cars and bought one big tank.
This list of political contributions is highly suspect. It is not believable that the most conservative Media, Fox and Fox News, show zero contributions to Republicans.
“It is not believable that the most conservative Media, Fox and Fox News, show zero contributions to Republicans”
I wonder if you actually ever have watched fox news. If you watch it, you are sure to get your daily dose of Democrat, even leftard, talking points. But if you prefer to “believe” in your own worldview, reinforced by non-stop propagandization to keep you from watching Fox News, like Medusa, “don’t look at it or you will turn to stone!”
It is like Obama. His ideology said that the surge couldn’t work, and therefore didn’t work. The evidence means nothing to him.
Actually, after reading the article, there are so many holes in the methodology, that I don’t think it counts for evidence of much. Especially in terms of suggesting that some organization gave zero on some issue. A better method might have been to match names to names of journalists, rather than relying on self reported employer and job classifications.
I still think that you guys don’t understand Fox News, and that one of my pet peeves with it is how they let the leftard blowhards get so much airtime. I wouldn’t mind if they gave each a rotating time, first and second, to give their views, rather than the sniping, overtalking, and competing for air time that you always see in those segments.
It is kind of interesting that Hillary said that Fox News was the fairest to her of the news outlets, and I think this is true.
And yet Fox News is the laughing stock of anyone who has even the most rudimentary understanding of objectivity.
It is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party. A group by the way which is very slowly being reduced to little more than a few remaining idiots who somehow think everything is peachy. Or if anything is wrong, it’s somehow the fault of the Democrats, even though the GOP has pretty much controlled the US Gov for the past decade.