“Here, listen, my dear daughter, do you know that this is the last day. Tonight, you’re going to die?”
Tina responds: “Huh?”
Zein Isa replies: “Do you know that you are going to die tonight?”
The girl’s mother asks her questions about items in her schoolbag. In the midst of her conversation with her mother, Tina begins to shriek in fear.
“Keep still, Tina!” says her father.
“Mother, please help me!”
“Huh? What do you mean?” the mother says.
“Help! Help!”
“What help?” the mother responds.
Tina screams, and Maria says: “Are you going to listen? Are you going to listen?”
Screaming louder, Tina gasps: “Yes! Yes! Yes, I am!” then coughs and adds, “No. Please!”
The mother says, “Shut up!”
Tina continues to cry, but her voice is unintelligible.
“Die! Die quickly! Die quickly!” the father says.
The girl moans, seems to quiet, then screams one last time.
“Quiet, little one! Die my daughter, die!” the father says.
Tina was stabbed six times in the chest with a boning knife, which pierced her heart, one lung, and liver, investigators said.
More pavilions at Folkfest: Kids today, right? It’s like Bye Bye Birdie – The Director’s Cut. But much of the media have rushed to echo him. Canada’s Number One news anchor went to weirdly contorted lengths to avoid the word ‘strangle’: “Her neck was compressed, to the point she couldn’t breathe.”
h/t
Barbara Kay has a good article today as well. The liberal left have much to answer for….
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=165018
If this does make you mad, I don’t know what will…
“I don’t want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue,” said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. “It is a teenager issue.”
“I don’t want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue,” said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. “It is a teenager issue.”
I think your turban is on a little too tight Dr. Dipshit. It’s a Muhammed-damned hate-crime issue. If some asshole kills his Muslim neighour because he wears a turban and makes his wife walk behind him, you going to advise Canadians that this is a Neighbourhood Watch issue?
Time for a new representative. This one has just made a horrible crime worse by trying to blame the victim.
If this doesn’t make you mad, I don’t know what will…
“I don’t want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue,” said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. “It is a teenager issue.”
Interesting how the Media, the education system, NGOs and Islam continue to work literally hand in hand over and over again.
What do they say, more than two makes it a conspiracy?
Chavez
Ahmadinejad
the rest of the Arab/Muslim world
Putin
China
MSM
EU
UN
the entire educational system from pre-school to university
the entire MSM
Maurice Strong
George Soros
Envirowhcako/peace groups
international socialists everywhere that vote in Canada and the US and the EU
The list goes on and on…..
/nothing to see here folks, keep on moving.
Amusing isn’t it that Mohamed Elmasry accuses Steyn of hate crimes while putting a spin on murderous dad’s hate crime. For sheer duplicty, it takes one’s breath away.
And the burqa clad morons in the MSM give him a pass.
I suppose the twisted mutts who can apologize for Islamic extremist ritual killings will counter with the many incidents of Christian fathers/brothers/relatives that have strangled their daughters for refusing to wear puritan clothing…
come to think of it, I can’t think of one…
If the msm cant find the nerve to vilify that imbecile elmasry………Well I just dont know nuthin any more!
Doug said:
“Interesting how the Media, the education system, NGOs and Islam continue to work literally hand in hand over and over again.”
There is more than a modest coincidence to the fact the largest voices in media, academia, pedagogy, jurocracy and numerous quasi authoritative bureaucratic organs are largely utopian leftists.
Not surprisingly the core element of Utopian statist socialism is the deconstruction of former and existing social orders …this must be done to engineer the new utopian order. Not surprisingly people in the media, academia and sundry authority positions who subscribe to utopian socialisn also promote deconstructionist ideas and controversies.
It is no coincidence that left-inclined media consistantly apologise for, and promote, orthodoxies that also want to deconstruct the existing order.
Radiacal Islam embedded in western culture wants to deconstruct Western society and culture as much as other utopian left orthodoxies…. such as radical environmentalism, radical transnationalism, parasitic capitalism, economic feudalism, social darwinism and global socialism….all want to deconstruct existing order to engineer the new wold order premised in their particular orthoxy…green commies want a green global feudalism, Muzzies want a global Islamic theocracy.
As always the press/media is a whore to this, and selfserving politicians, activists, academics and sundry camp followers facillitate deconstruction as they feel they will be part of the power elite in the new rising order…little do they recall the record of treachery of utopian ideologues or orthodox absolutists.
So we see, for now at least, Radical Islam and the utopian left are strange bedfellows in the common cause of deconstructing western culture.
&^*& me, that’s a transcript!
How can people excuse and whitewash such, such…Aargh. words fail me.
The US has asylum cities for illegal immigrants. Why not write to your local counselors and ask that your town be declared an “honour killing free zone”?
Had this been a fundamentalist Christian father and a rebellious daughter, would we ever hear the end of “the Truth of Fundamentalist Christian Violence and Oppression” from the MSM? Would NOW, SOW (and COW?) waste a second in organizing rallies, protests and candle-light vigils to “Stop the dehumanization of women by christianity”? Not b@#$$y likely!
But on this one? Listen to the crickets chirping.
Well, okay, then. This was a “teenager issue”. The problem was this teenager had a father whacked out on cult-like religious beliefs. He deemed this imagined “teenager issue” so severe that the only recourse available was to take the extraordinary measure of strangling his disobedient “teenager” to resolve the “issue”.
Compounding this “teenager issue” was a whole family that appear to have been infected by the same problem.
strangled with her own hijab ??
Doug and WLMR, right on.
An example: a friend of mine was recently in a big city school. There was a bulletin board divided in three: one third for an Eid display, one for a Diwali display, and one for Kwanzaa. Christmas, anyone? Nowhere did there seem to be an equal display of the very foundation religion on which are based the rights that allow these other religions (or quasi, in the case of Kwanzaa) to practise freely in this country.
A lot of teachers are very uncomfortable about this. Do they speak out? Psst . . . do the prisoners in a gulag speak out? Teachers are terrified of their PC masters–actually, all toadies of an amazingly corrupt system, which has little to do with either education–in its true sense–or character formation.
I’m mad as hell about this. But most Canadians don’t like anger: they much prefer “nice”. (As the Beatles wrote, “Wouldn’t it be nice . . . ” if we lived in a world where there was nothing to be angry about?) How on earth is “nice” going to help these complacent Canadians when the thugs come for THEM, as they surely will?
Meanwhile, those of us who see the trainwreck coming, and are trying to warn people, are dismissed, demeaned and discriminated against, e.g., Mark Steyn.
Kyrie eleison.
WL Mackenzie Redux, you write with the certainty of someone who has never used or fully understood deconstruction. If I am wrong please link me to some examples of your deconstructivist writings. I am curious to see who your influences are.
Don’t you just love how the moral relativists (read: MSM and sissy socialists) claim this to be a “cultural issue”? Anyone who equates the concept of the golden rule with beheadings, suicide bombings and murdering one’s own child as “cultural differences” needs serious psychiatric intervention.
“Kids today, right? It’s like Bye Bye Birdie – The Director’s Cut”
Who the hell is the director Quinton Tarintino?
Why can’t the MSM see that radical Islam poses a real danger to the very way we live.
The MSM keeps preaching that Islam is a religion of peace, that only a small percentage are radical fundamentalist. What is that percentage? 10%, 5%? Let’s go with 1%. There are approximately 2.5 billion Muslims in the world so 1% would represent 25 million people who want women to be classed as cattle or chattel if you prefer. 25 million people who want us to convert to Islam or die. 25 million people who want to “behead those who insult Islam” I wonder how many are living next door to you. How many are smiling at you at work talking about last nights hockey game.
I may be becoming paranoid, that doesn’t mean I’m wrong though.
Damn I think that vein that throbs on the side of my head finally popped when I read the comment “a teenager issue”
The collective crickets are chirping. CBC, CTV and Global have all buried (pun intended) this “teenager story” on thier websites.
I guess they don’t want to rush to judgement, eh? Funny how they will jump all over any story should it shed negative light on anyone that happens to lean one millimeter to the right of center.
The MSM doesn’t want to scare away the Muslim voting block from backing Dion.
AutherL Your presumption leads me to belive you are someone who has lived in deep denial of cultural/social deconstructionism (which is a well documented function of social more upheaval first documented by Heidegger) or perhaps you are engaged in it to some degree and have justified your deconstructing activism as being progressive.
From your presumptuous tone and Socratic ironic prosody, I suspect providing you with any evidence would be a pointless exercise as you obviously have some arcane insight the rest of us don’t.
Why not be honest and counter point my argument instead of making snide innuendos?
WLMR is exactly right. That’s why the left calls itself “progressive”. The use of “progressive” in itself demonstrates their disdain for the culture and values that got us where we are today. Any departure from tradition is deemed to be “progress”. Muslims leftists both have a common enemy – western traditional culture and values. And given that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, they are bedfellows. Most on the left would deny this and dismiss it as ludicrous, but its an ugly truth.
We are seeing extreme social conservatism at work, shall we say. I suppose, for purposes of cultural equivalence, we should note that the early Romans maintained similar paternal and patriarchal rights, a mere 2200 years ago. The social conservatism is an attraction, and probably accounts for some conversions in England and on the Continent. But killing teenagers, though many parents have wanted to, does strike one as drastic.
The girls probably thought that they had “rights”, other than the right to obey their fathers. Sharia, and more generally the maintenance of male honour, is the perfect antidote to feminism.
Pity that the leftards are too stupid and too ignorant to realise these things.
“Radical Islam is a real danger to the way we live”–NO IT ISN’T–it is our social engineers who dare not call murder murder and instead bleat about ‘cultural values’! Murder is murder no matter who does it. Why do certain people get a free pass? This is Canada and our laws should apply to all equally. Maybe Picton should plead that he hated prostitutes–that could be his motive and how could our Injustice System argue that–motive has become the be all and end all–not the result of that ‘motive’. This makes me sick. Don’t point fingers at ‘radical Muslims’ but rather at our weak-kneed ‘system’ that doesn’t have the courage to defend the victims. Multiculturalism kills! The MSM assists in the burial. And we are no longer a Christian nation.
A former president of NACSOW once declared that Canadian women aren’t safe in thier own kitchens, implying that all men are spouse abusers, yet they remain strangly silent in the wake of REAL abuse and downright murder.
Even the Post said: “The strangulation death of Ms. Parvez was the result of domestic violence, a problem that cuts across Canadian society and is blind to colour or creed.”
It seems to me, what is being protected here is the fact that multiculturalism is an abject failure, at least as it applies to political Islam and its inherent cultural savagery.
That and fear. People are oddly afraid of being called names by the intolerant, bigoted, misogynist, racists of Islam and their pals on the left.
There are commentors on the last thread on this topic who are doing the same. ‘dander’ comes to mind. I suspect that he is a muslim, well versed in the art of taqiyya. He offers only praise for Islam, based on his reading of one book, written by an Islamic apologist. He offers no facts or evidence to back up his opinion, rather, he falsely attacks Christianity in an attempt to create a moral equivalence argument. A common tactic. He also flings around ad hominems.
This is the battle. Passive jihad is the precursor to aggressive jihad. Taqiyya and Kitman are weapons in their attacks.
Constant exposure of their violent and political ideology, as written in their own texts, as well as exposure of their monstrously evil prophet is our defence. This is the foundational inspiration for all of the attrocities Muslims have created throughout history.
They know this. That is why their terrorist front organisations, such as CAIR and CIC are constantly challenging freedom of speech. The more people know, the more their ideology unravels. It cannot survive the light of truth.
Islam is neither rational, nor good. It creates hate and death, the evidence is everywhere.
As for Mohammad, evil actions and sayings do not beget good.
You know, all religions are pretty much the same.
Of course the left are OK with this. The parent(s) have merely taken abortion-on-demand, that leftist cause, to the logical next step. Think about it. The limitation of the “right” of a parent to terminate the life of an offspring to only the period before birth is an arbitrary decision.
WL Mackenzie Redux: May I compliment you on really splendid posts! And, seeing that lookout is looking in here, may I also compliment you on the enormous improvement in your spelling which marred so many of your earlier posts. Damn good, man.
And, “understanding” de-constructionism. Well, I thought if you “understood” it you really didn’t get it :).
National Revue Steyn Quote,
“Canada’s Number One news anchor went to weirdly contorted lengths to avoid the word “strangle”:
Her neck was compressed, to the point she couldn’t breathe.”
Thumbs may be to blame
“Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at December 13, 2007 12:19 PM”
WLMR,
I have been saying the same things for some time now, but not nearly as eloquently nor as succinct. You packaged it all up very nicely.
Please keep saying it as often and to as many as possible. You are not alone.
And may I quote your comments?
‘Neck compressions’ – sounds like an innocuous Yoga thing?
The debate on the defense of Western Civilization from Marching Medieval Mysticism is one that needs to be framed in terms of free speech. That is, the natural right to totally unconstrained (other than by fraud and libel) free speech.
The MSM and Trudeaupian Multi-Culti culture is constrained by the Jack boots of Political Correctness and (likely by fear of) the equally fascist Human Rights Tribunals and their contrived so-called hate crimes.
The Silence was deafening when it came to opposition to the state persecuting and eventually extraditing Ernst Zundel. Other than his Lawyer, Doug Christie and small following, I can’t think of anyone of influence defending his right, no matter how distasteful, to free speech. Unless free speech is considered of prime importance, as goes Asshole Ernst, so goes gems like Mark Steyn.
The MSM (Heaven forbid!) will never align with social conservatives but they might tag along in a purely secular argument for free speech. If Steyn or anyone else can’t venture an opinion on the prognosis of a future dominated by medieval mystics (or even calling them that) without fear of the gestapo tactics of the HRCs then how long before the MSM can only publish thoroughly pasteurized PC mush or are we there already.
Self-censorship is every bit as dangerous as that imposed by the state if you value fundamental freedoms.
My Islamophobia meter just exploded – again !
Silence — or I keeeeellllllll you
I think this whole Steyn issue will prove that the press IS free. That is, they allowed themselves to be bought….for cheap.
They chose to sell themselves out to evil. I’m reminded of the 3 speak/see/hear monkeys.
“Neck comressions” eh — Yea, that’s the ticket !
“Thumbs may be to blame”
Registry anyone? Anyone?
If anyone should be put in front of a Human Rights Commission,it’s the likes of him.
Then he should be put in front of a firing squad.
Me No Dimmi:
“WL Mackenzie Redux: May I compliment you on really splendid posts!?
(sorry if spelling errors put you off the messages I was putting forward…for the record I have an old keyboard where the key markings are almost worn totally away and I have a nasty habit of typing fast and posting without a spell check…firefox cured both problems)
Well thanks…I guess? :-/
John West:
You don’t have to ask permission to repost any of my off the cuff mutterings…..first because this is Kate’s site and she owns whatever is posted here AFAIC…and second because most of what I am saying are repeated expressions of philosophers and lettered populists far more articulated than anything I scribble.
Skim over; Aristotle, Friedrich Hayek, Lyndon LaRouche, Lew Rockwell, Von Mises, Friedrich Bastiat, JT Gatto, Carroll Quigley, Anne Rand, Paine, Locke, Mill, CS Lewis and Blackstone and you will find a lot of the impetus in my messaging…I just frame their reflections in terms of current events.
I’m firmly anchored in the old school of “leave-me-the-Frick-alone” thinkers.
what the hell is with moral relativism. jesus. islam is the most evil thing to come down the chute in 1400+ years. damnit people are stupid. do you and yours have to be killed before something other than words are used in self defence. i am sure that the majority of canadians are stupid. i don’t care who the hell i insult. i am sick to death of pc bullshit. i have said it before and i will say it again. we will have to kill the politically correct among us to save ourselves. this will be painful.
I had one of those “teenager issues” with my son the other day. He would not wear a decently warm coat in the dead of a Manitoba winter. Of course, I never resorted to strangulation. I just admonished his choice with a warning of potentially grave consequences (frostbite). Do you think I made a mistake?
WLMR: Snide? I was being quite serious. You throw the word about like a journalist. You talk of it like its a weapon that can sweep aside one order and replace it with another. Logic, reason and religious fanaticism can all do these things, and do them better. At least they leave some solid footing to build on once the rubble is cleared.
You say you can provide links. Perhaps you’ve said something about what ‘justifying deconstruction’ means. Now that would be an interesting topic. How would you justify the affliction? I might try an evolutionary argument, but I’ve never felt the need to justify any way of thinking. They’re either useful or not.
As for the rest, you hit as much as you miss. I happen to have knowledge of the sort that one normally wouldn’t expect to find on a conservative blog, though I wouldn’t go so far as to call it arcane and I find the word knowledge troubling. That alone should cause you to re-evaluate your suspicions about how firmly I hold my insights and what evidence I could honestly refuse to consider.
Provide a link if its no trouble. I don’t see what you have to lose. Or gain. Either way this is veering too far from the core of the thread; What happened to that girl is a tragedy, and what a supposedly respected Islamic guy thinks of it is horrific. I’ve included my real email this time to help demonstrate my sincerity.
Someone very near and dear to my heart is recorded as having said, “He who is without sin cast the first stone”.
I find the deaths of these two beautiful girls abhorant beyond description and sincerely wish that in some way, someone had been there to stop the killing. Then I read these comments and many if not most echo my deepest emotions but at the same time I have this niggling fear that as a culture we are heading down a similar path.
Abortion on demand and euthanasia bear an uncanny resemblance to what these parents did to their children. But since we are in the habit of excusing the slaughter of innocents how long will it be until almost any kind of murder is accepted as being moral and ethical?
They came for the Jews and I remained silent for I wasn’t a Jew……
It was absolutely essential that the Parvez family name restore that sense of damaged Wajh. Asqa’s natural yearnings for freedom from the draconian, (that of cultural apostasy and self expression) befouled family honor and that young beautiful girl therefore had to be murdered to reconstitute it. Guiltless. Systemic. Backward. Ugly. Incomprehensible.
Everytime these “intellectuals” or “journalists” attempt to dilute the morally revolting, they themselves edge closer to that world of licentiousness.
The dhimmitude is spreading like an epidemic, diminishing the world’s hard-won stock of wisdom and morality, and civilization will fall, if we are not wise to it – not necessarily from a massive event but from a thousand cuts.
When I see a muslum on the street I tell them to go back to the middle east as they are nothing but terrorists in MY country. Everyone needs to start standing up to these scum. SEND THEM PACKING.
“He who is without sin cast the first stone”.
Now, let’s compare that exactly to what Mo said and did:
“Do not stone the adulteress who is pregnant until she has had her child.” After the birth she was put into a ditch up to her chest and the prophet commanded them to stone her. Khalid came forward with a stone, which he threw at her head, and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and he cursed her. The gentle prophet prayed over her and she was buried.
– Hadith No. Muslim 682
This is what Islam does and says. It completely twists and distorts morals, values and logic. It’s so shocking that we in the west disconnect. We would rather assume it to be a religion like others, than confront the truth.
Notice that the evil monster Mohammad, after passing judgement and carrying out this murder against a helpless mother is called, “The gentle prophet…”
Sick.
Let me guess (the great carnac says) — she just fell on the fillet knife (6 times) and her hand naturally contracted around her neck as she fell down –“die quicker infedel, die”…wow — if Jihad Johny said it, I’d believe it… D’ho !!
FREE
You sound like a good little liberal trolly-polly.
Relativism for liberals
One man’s Shawinigaw handshake is another man’s teenage problem solver.
Related from an earlier thread:
irwin daisy, Good job for pointing out those verses. It makes my task of explaining things much easier. Those verses were revealed in the middle of war, when the Muslims were defending themselves against their oppressors. It would help to pick up a history book for the first time in your life for further reference. The Muslims were not as plentiful as they are today. They were a mere 100 people or even less than that intially when they were being oppressed. When it came time for liberation, war broke out, so these verses refer to only those times of war – not presently. They do not apply today. Since you show great citing abilities, I think you can also point out those verses in the Quran that teach tolerance, love and peace. Islam, after all, means “peace”.
Posted by: micheal at December 12, 2007 11:33 PM
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“Islam, after all, means “peace”.”
No it doesn’t. It means submission.
See, taqiyya. Or in other words, blatant lies.
‘michael,’ obviously a muslim, writes other blatant lies on his posts. None of which he can support based on his own religions texts.
This is an excellent example of how they work.
Posted by: irwin daisy at December 13, 2007 2:01 PM
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Irwin Dasiy, yes, I am a muslim, a convert, in fact. I converted based on my interactions with a number of great muslims at my workplace. I have never regreeted my decision, but feel bad for people like you that choose to take so many of these verses compeletly out of context. I only wish you could see the big picture, my friend. alas, it seems that you are so filled with hatred, that I don’t know if that would ever be possible.
btw, in response to your meaning of islam comment – Islam is derived from the Arabic root “Salema, which means peace, purity, submission and obedience. so yes, islam does mean peace…
Posted by: micheal at December 13, 2007 3:26 PM
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Oh, that old canard.
I don’t take any verse out of context, I leave that up to the Muslim apologists practicing taqiyya, dissimulation and dualism.
Do you understand the Islamic principal of abrogation?
In actual fact, other than the Mecca and Medina periods, the Quran has no context and makes no sense whatsoever without the Sira and Hadith.
Hatred? I don’t feel hatred. Other than towards the ideology of Islam. Understanding, then exposing and criticising Islam for what it is, isn’t hatred. Despite what the Quran (read, Mo) might warn against. He only did this to preserve Islam from the light of reason – where it whithers and dies. You know, keep the mushrooms in the dark and feed them shit.
Islam means surrender, and/or submission according to every Islamic and Arabic scholar and source I’ve ever read.
BTW, Allah does not mean God in Arabic. Ilah means God. Allah is the name of the Islamic god. Originally from the old Arabic pantheon of 365 gods. That’s why Muslims are always saying Allah is the greatest. Greatest implies other gods. Mo’s father’s name was Abduallah – after this idol. The Judeo/Christian God is named Yahweh, in case you didn’t know. Completely different. Also Jesus’ name is not Isa in Arabic. Isa is Esau. Yahshua would be Yesuwa in Arabic.
The Quran is full of this kind of nonsense.
Also, did you know that Mohammad and his followers broke every single one of the ten commandments?
Take the blinders off.
Posted by: irwin daisy at December 13, 2007 5:14