“The planet has a fever, If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, `Well, I read a science fiction novel that told me it’s not a problem.’ If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame retardant. You take action.”
The babies are plummeting. There is just time to catch them (with a tax shift to carbon). As a nation, I’d like to see us either save this generation, or at least stop pretending we care about them.
A WEST Australian medical expert wants families to pay a $5000-plus “baby levy” at birth and an annual carbon tax of up to $800 a child.
Writing in today’s Medical Journal of Australia, Associate Professor Barry Walters said every couple with more than two children should be taxed to pay for enough trees to offset the carbon emissions generated over each child’s lifetime.
Professor Walters, clinical associate professor of obstetric medicine at the University of Western Australia and the King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth, called for condoms and “greenhouse-friendly” services such as sterilisation procedures to earn carbon credits.
Oh, that didn’t turn out the way I thought it would.
“A WEST Australian medical expert wants families to pay a $5000-plus “baby levy” at birth”
This guy must be a Liberal party activist. They’ve finally figured out a way to tax us out of existance!
No, now they’ve finally figured out how to throw out the baby with the bath water.
No babies, no bath water!! But the environment is saved.
Next a carbon tax on sex for heavy breathing and thus exhaling too much CO2.
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Dang!!! My family of five kids would cost me $25G!!! plus an aditional $4G per year. I have a better idea. Since liberals like tax and the environment so much why don’t we just provide a carbon tax all liberal pseudo-intellectuals for every time they open there mouths. Is there no one sane left on this planet?
Scratch a Greenie and not far under the surface you will find a “500 Millioner.”
Why don’t leftards just earn their carbon credits by killing themselves and having their bodies buried? Oh, right! They want YOU to pay for it – and apparently your baby, too.
I know, why don’t conservatives get in on the action! We can hunt liberals.
“A WEST Australian medical expert wants families to pay a $5000-plus “baby levy” at birth and an annual carbon tax of up to $800 a child.
Writing in today’s Medical Journal of Australia, Associate Professor Barry Walters said every couple with more than two children should be taxed to pay for enough trees to offset the carbon emissions generated over each child’s lifetime.
Professor Walters, clinical associate professor of obstetric medicine at the University of Western Australia and the King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth, called for condoms and “greenhouse-friendly” services such as sterilisation procedures to earn carbon credits.”
This environmental idiocy can only go so far. It must stop. Now.
So when they put out these pronouncements like like papers printed or emails sent to electrical consuming devices called computers used?
meh…the only “doctor” a social Darwinist like Gore wants you to take your child to is a euthanist- eugenicist.
I hear the Kevorkian clinic has been renamed the carbon footprint nutralization center.
We need instead to dramatically increase the population so that our per capita emissions are lowered!
How come they weren’t thinking of the children when they banned DDT, which led to the unnecessary deaths from malaria of millions and millions of children in Africa?
To quote the title of a favorite book of mine – ‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’.
All the fraud, all the time.
There is a point here though. When we examine GHG emissions, we need to also view it from a perspective of population, and density. A small population over a very large area (Canada for example) doesn’t have the same impact in terms of emissions in PPM than say, most European nations, China, etc.
Now for the most part, I’m not all that worked up about Climate change. However, that doesn’t mean I’m not concerned about the huge amounts of smog being generated by an ever increasing number of coal plants worldwide.
If environmentalists are serious about climate change being caused by human activity, they need to take a serious look at what a sustainable population density is for the planet, and start setting emissions targets based on what the local environment can handle.
I find it absurd that a low density nation like Canada can be considered the #4 worst emitter in the world. Take a look at the number of emissions made by Canadians, compare that to the atmospheric area of populated Canada, and examine the PPM increase in C02. Then compare that to other nations, and tell me why Canada should be concerned about our emissions.
A WEST Australian medical expert wants families to pay a $5000-plus “baby levy” at birth and an annual carbon tax of up to $800 a child.
Talk about an incentive for a country to not re-populate itself. And I’m sure the “developing” nations like China and India will be exempt, forcing countries to rely even more on immigration to sustain itself.
Doesn’t China already have a ‘one child’ policy? It hasn’t done anything for their emmissions, has it?
Too bad this doctor’s father didn’t come up with this solution to all the worlds ills. We, at least, wouldn’t have to read his drivel.
Gore is desperately begging all of us to administer a mega dose of aspirin to this “baby with a fever” and we all know what happens when you do that. Same thing that happened to Gore’s brain.
Doesn’t Australia, like Canada, have a birth rate of under 2 children per woman? And since that results (without immigration) in a declining population, by this “professor’s” twisted logic, we’re actually helping the planet. It should be the 3rd world nations with skyrocketing birth rates paying a tax to the developed nations that have the low birth rates.
Do we accumulate carbon credits if we euthanize this moron and the rest of his ilk? Think about it…. helping the Earth AND society!
If you examine emissions compared to landmass for several nations you get:
Japan: 347 (Million Tonnes of GHG/1000 km2) -2002 Data
Germany: 275
UK: 265
France: 98
US: 74
India: 37
China: 33
Canada: 25 (Considering only 30% of our landmass)
Russia: 23 (Considering only 40% of their landmass)
Australia: 13 (Considering only 50% of their landmass)
If you want to consider that really only half of China is populated, their number jumps to about the same as the US.
According to my numbers, Canada is a world leader amongst industrial nations in GHG emissions! We’re up there with Australia & Russia.
I’d like to propose a Winnipeg protocol, whereby the nations of the world commit to reducing population & emissions to the point where the emissions/area is below a factor of 20.
This reminds me of an episode of the British satirical programme Yes, Minister. In the episode a hospital is found to be super efficient and is held up as a model to be followed. Then the minister finds out that the hospital is so efficient because it has no patients.
The New Left of the Seventies has been recycled into this extreme environmentalism culture of life-haters.
There’s a quote that I seem to remember out there which states (I’m paraphrasing because I can’t remember exactly) that there could be no more terrifying idea than a world where experts got to run things their own way.
I have an idea. All these idiots who raised dogs instead of children should not be eligible for any benefits from the state upon retiring, as they will not have any offspring paying taxes to cover their fair share.
Take this one step further, and amend all marriage laws to cover couples that have children only. No kids means no alimony, no survivor’s benefits, etc.
The way that I see it, no children = no future.
MOONBAT IDIOTS!
So let me get this straight. Aside from the fact that this doctor has obviously accidently injected himself with one too many hallucinogenic drugs…This is the way I see the outcome if any of this climate change bs is actually true:
The people who actually care about this planet will stop breeding and therefore die out. Then the only people left will be the people who do not care/respect the planet and they will continue breeding.
I am sure that everyone can think of a few very vocal minorities who will be exempt when they scream racism and that it is against their religion to stop breeding (I am thinking of the “veiled and peaceful” minority as an example) . So really…this is a great way to ensure that the planet goes straight to h*ll.
Rex Murphy explains it well.
with a tax on children we could put the muzzies out of business. a un jyzia
schawrze, 500 millioner. haven’t heard that in a long time . isn’t that the number of people that the planet can handle if all are hunter gatherers?
Can you name the Canadian who made these statements ?
[“It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle-class… involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, small electric appliances, home and work place air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable… A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmental damaging consumption patterns.”]
[ ..Baca an international spiritual community which they hope will serve as a model for the way the world should be if humankind is to survive – a sort of United Nations of religious beliefs.]
[So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?]
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“500 Millioner” is a tag for the insane environmentalists who believe the planet can sustain a human population of between 500 million and 1 billion. You are right, OWG, about the hunter gatherer part. I think they imagine the ideal as being: humans buck naked, shivering in the cold, hungry, frightened, and wondering why on earth they have an opposable thumb.
“500 millioners” are scary people folks. They are not to be underestimated. I consider their mindset to be identical to those of the Nazis, who believed that only a certain select group of people should dominate and inherit the earth. The doctor’s thinking punctuates the slippery slope of this thinking. The words are all there: head tax (baby levy), sterilization, institutionalizing the process for carbon credits. Not a giant leap to concentration camps, forced immigration and emigration, culling of undesireables. All for the supposed “greater good.” This is where the AGW guys are trying to take us.
Human beings as pathogens per Paul Watson.
http://www.seashepherd.org/editorials/editorial_070504_1.html
“I was once severely criticized for describing human beings as being the “AIDS of the Earth.” I make no apologies for that statement. Our viral like behaviour can be terminal both to the present biosphere and ourselves. We are both the pathogen and the vector. But we also have the capability of being the anti-virus if only we can recognize the symptoms and address the disease with effective measures of control.”
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“We need to radically and intelligently reduce human populations to fewer than one billion. We need to eliminate nationalism and tribalism and become Earthlings.”
Okay who decides who is part of the current 5 billion that need to be eliminated? Step aside Mao, Stalin, Hilter.
Yes, it is the ‘radically and intelligently method ‘that has me concerned.
If this is Paul Watson’s idea of “Earthlings” then bring on the Martians.
ron in kelowna,
No need to click on your “Answer” link. That famous denizen, long ago of Oak Lake, Manitoba; more recently of his sprawling ranch on the Colorado plateau; late of the “University of Peace” in the Central American rain forest, and now hiding out in China from well-deserved justice in the U.S. for his little escapades while at the UN. This is the righteous environmentalist, with his scenario of doom for 88 percent of humanity. “My philosophy is socialism; my methodology is capitalism”, he says. According to my elderly uncle, he is the “greatest master of bullshit-baffles-brains ever produced on the planet”. He is probably right behind Associate Professor Barry Walters moonbat lunacy; maybe even funds his “research”.
Why is he staying in China so long? Does he need a cheap organ transplant?
Nazi ugenics!
Is “Skeptic” a good thing, or a bad thing. I guess it depends who you are.
How come it’s ok to be a skeptic when it comes to appraising Canada’s announcements on new funding for climate change (Critics skeptical of government’s environmental commitment), but it’s not ok to be skeptical of the IPCC’s “chicken little” (The head of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Rajendra Pachauri, called Canada’s Conservatives a government of climate-change skeptics)reports?
WTF?
Maybe We should shift our attentions to the real threatening people like Mr Barry Walters and other people of his persuasion. I think these guys are more a threat than the radical islamists ever will be, they also have the effect of weakening us when we do fight for something that is right.
Our society can only be beaten from within and people like walters doing their best to cause our fall. They should be identified and dealt with! (though with our society that’ll probably never happen)
Any doubt that the enviro-nuts, the UN committees on (anything having to do with ‘families’ or ‘health’) and Planned parenthood, feminists and the Gay lobby are all on the same bandwagon?
Deconstruct the family. Depopulate .
Here’s a link to a photo of a poster used by Planned Parenthood in Africa. As one of the commenters mentions, it puts one in mind of Evelyn Waugh’s ‘Black Mischief’.
http://www.americanpapist.com/2007/12/repulsive-planned-parenthood-ads-in.html
Speaking of children. I have a daughter that is in grade 7. I am finding that more and more environmental misinformation is being pushed within her school. I believe that the best way to deal with this is inoculation.
Here is my problem. Rather than me continuously informing her of what is going on, I would rather let her read information on a site that is more focused to her age group.
Does anyone know of a site like this?
When are all these population control/global warming fanatics going to take there own advice and kill themselves? CO2 emissions would be cut dramatically just by eliminating all of the hot air coming out of their mouths.
As anyone here done the research to see if Gore has started his own baby offset company yet?
The Africans would end up sending us money!
Oops,sorry I forgot…we already have baby offset companies.
They’re called abortion clinics.
A carbon tax on babies: fabulous! (Nigeria will have 25% of the earth’s population by the year 2050).
Uh……how much will it cost me, to keep Nigeria’s population in Nigeria? (You sprouted them- you keep them, okay?- I don’t personally want them living next door).
Same thing for Catholics- talk to our Department of Froggy Affairs!
Anyone catch Jean Cretin on George Strombofoolus tonite?When asked about signing the Kyoto deal,George mentioned the division in the party,and the worry that it would pi** off the oil patch,Crouton’s response was rather interesting.Said he basically didn’t care about it,cuz he was leaving.I think the old bast**d knew it was unachievable,impossible to implement,and he deliberately left that mess for Martin to deal with,as well as future gov’t’s to fight over.Nice one Cretin
Human beings as pathogens per Paul Watson.
http://www.seashepherd.org/editorials/editorial_070504_1.html
Paul Watson , seashepherd and the looney left. – I can only reiterate the story of Paul Watson in the early 80’s , he was walking up the Alaska Highway ( about 10 yards off) regarding the plight of the wolves. In Ft. St. John he did a speech about saving the wolves. A women chimed in saying maybe instead of killing the wolves we should castrate them , making them less sexually agressive and less inclined to breed.
one of the farmers answered,
“look lady they arent fccking our cattle, they are killing them”
even famous Paul of the dont hold a real job crowd was dumbfounded.
First, all envirowackos must pay 5000.00 for being born and 800./yr for every year they have lived. That money could be invested and the interest could offset the cost for having a baby.
How many gallons of fuel has Gore used flying from here to there and back.
These idiots will not change one thing in their life, but expect us to do without and pay for their excess.
Send this xspurt to Hans Island to plant trees to save the planet.
Why dont we instead slap a insanity tax on crack-pots this him how about making this yoyo pay for his rediclous idea and at the same time how about calling the guys with the streght jackets and hall this wacko off to the loonie bin
If every couple had just two children then the population of the earth would decrease and that would no doubt help the environment in many ways.
I can’t see how this will ever happen in an equitable fashion though.
Associate Professor Barry Walters is recommending that only those couples that can afford $5,000 down and $800 a year per child will be permitted to have a third or fourth child
This sounds like an interesting approach to eugenics.
While proposing to use the money raised to plant trees makes me think that he is aiming for a breed of affluent forest dwellers.
And rewarding those that don’t procreate with the absolution of their carbon guilt speaks for itself.
Only the Lib-leftists could figure this is a credible solution.
Murders are now to be known as “carbon supressionists”. Abortion is now to be known as “pre-emptive carbon supression”. War should now be called “mass carbon balancing”. Hey, if we play our cards right we may be able to bring back the death penalty to minimize the carbon footprint of inmates uselessly eating up precious carbon credits! Why not encourage suicide as it obviously reduces CO2 output therefore it is good for the environment? We could even send medals to the remaining family members as a token of appreciation for the “heroic efforts” of thier dearly departed!
I weep for the future.
A kangaroo and emu must have kicked this jerk in the head a few dozen times his ideas are as crazy as they are i mean from what asilum did this wacko escape from he needs to do returned