What’s The Opposite Of Diversity?

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1. Wow!! Great stuff. Power to the democracy loving and defending student body!!!

2. Employers need to know that if they hire a U of Vic student they are getting a radical left wing freak who is disrespectful of the most basic institutions of society.

3. And parents should know that in sending their little tykes to UVIC they are ensuring they will emerge as unemployable welfare sucking, fascist communists.

4. What this group of young leftists need is a basic course in critical thinking. Their two axioms are completely illogical – and operate in ‘circular thinking’. That means – they are empty of thought.
   Axiom One. They are “opposed to the militarization of Canadian society”. This is a general axiom and utterly meaningless in the situation. Having a military is not equivalent to the “militarization of Canadian society”. To achieve that axiom, ALL citizens would have to be members of various levels of a military order.
   A professional military system – which is found within all countries – has nothing to do with any ‘militarization’ of a society.
   Axiom two. “a Canadian military establishment that violates international law and human rights’.
   Heck – we can all agree on that. We don’t want our military to do either. But, first, you’d have to prove that they are actually doing this.
   And even before that, you’d have to prove that there IS such a thing as ‘international law’ in all issues (there isn’t), and you’d have to define ‘human rights’.
   Some people define ‘human rights’ in such a broad manner, that if someone doesn’t have their own home (provided by the govt) it’s a violation of their ‘human rights’.
   So- what were the students thinking – or rather – not thinking, when they passed these two axioms that are, in themselves, utterly without meaning?

5. Not fair Andrew. The piece makes it clear that the wackos are a small minority. There are the kind of people that get elected to student councils–lefty weenies usually. Normal students have better things to do. It’s always been this way…

6. Not fair Andrew. The piece makes it clear that the wackos are a small minority. There are the kind of people that get elected to student councils–lefty weenies usually. Normal students have better things to do. It’s always been this way…

7. “The Society is opposed to the militarization of Canadian Society, and is unsupportive of a Canadian military establishment that violates international law and human rights.”
   The banning of recruitment officers (and, presumably, military personnel from invited to speak on the military or Afghanistan?) is just plain stupid.
   The accusation that the Canadian military routinely violates international law and human rights is offensive. Did they provide even a single example or evidence?

8. “Not fair Andrew”
   Neither is life. It took years of ridicule for my alma mater to pull up its socks and if that’s what it takes for U Vic students to see the errors of their ways then so be it.

9. Employers need to know that if they hire a U of Vic student they are getting a radical left wing freak who is disrespectful of the most basic institutions of society.
   Posted by: Andrew at September 24, 2007 9:58 AM
   And parents should know that in sending their little tykes to UVIC they are ensuring they will emerge as unemployable welfare sucking, fascist communists.
   Posted by: johnboy at September 24, 2007 10:11 AM
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   That’s actually the point of the letter, folks; i.e., that the student government is acting against the wishes of the student majority.

10. I find it interesting that a Chinese ho voted against Canadian military…

11. I see the leftoids in charge of the Student Union at UVic subscribe to Cretien’s “da proof is da proofs” theory when accusing, trying and convicting the Canadian military of violating international law and human rights.
    Clearly they do not have a full course load as they seem to have too much time on their hands to think about conspiracies.
    Caitlin Meggs : “…the Canadian military misrepresents what is happening.”
    Tim Founrier: “They are liars… They do not tell the truth, and they manipulate us.”
    A. E. Neuman : “What, Me worry?”

12. Growing in socialism under communists, it is easy to view the comment by the chairman/woman. It is all exhaling hot air and not knowing what sound comes out of his/hers mouth. Talking alot without actually saying something, talking in key words without context.

13. So the very council that bans Canadian Military Recruiters is the same one who would invite Iranian President Imanutjob to speak ?
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14. *
    These empty headed students have yet to learn that
    EVERY COUNTRY HAS A MILITARY … THEIR OWN OR SOMEONE ELSE’S
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15. Victoria is a military town, so nonsense like this won’t be accepted.

16. Remember that quite a few of the CF personnel posted to Esquimalt and Pat Bay take courses at UVic, not to mention all the reservists. Just because you see UVic on the diploma doesn’t make the holder a complete numpty. Avoid the broad brush, folks.

17. Banning the military from campus is ok. I went to Queen’s and we did something similar: We banned UVic students from coming. Although we did use different methods… we just raised the academic requirements.

18. Taliban means student. Enough said.

19. If the students of UVic do not want to be represented by left wing fascists then they should not have elected them. That was my point. A democratically elected body supposedly represents the majority of its consituents. If only 7% of the student pop chooses to vote then they are foregoing their right to have a say in how that body operates.
    If they didn’t want to be branded as left wing fascists maybe they should have taken a few minutes away from a bar stool and voted. I hope this a lesson they take with them when the next election rolls around, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. So…until UVic elects a different student council they are a bunch of left wing commies. And frankly, if I were an employer (and I am) I’m not sure which is worse, someone who votes for a leftwing fascist council or someone who could care less who they are goverened by.
    Having 5% of the population vote for a fringe element is not very dangerous as long as everyone upholds their DUTY to vote for the government of the country/province/municipality/university. But when 95% of the population is too apathetic to even vote…tough luck.
    “The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.” – Plato
    Just my 2 cents.

20. If UVic required students to take a course in military history this sort of stupidity wouldn’t happen.

21. Itiot lefties. Free speech for those who agree. Censorship for those who don’t.
    Wouldn’t the “democratic” thing be to let the military have their presence on campus and then follow them around protesting and disproving what’s being said? But that’s too much effort. It’s just easier to ban them.
    This quote really got me going:
    Director-at-large Christine Comrie said it was important to ban the military from recruiting because some students are ignorant about the issues.
    “A lot of students don’t know about the issues and don’t know about the facts,” she said. “We have to make this decision for students.”
    Isn’t it the lefties that want to lower the voting age to 16? Of course they do. Because they know that kids aren’t aware of the issues and they can make the descisions for them. The left knows they benefit from the “uninformed” portion of the voting public so naturally they want to make this voting block larger.

22. Kudos to Jon for quote of the day.
    ‘We banned UVic students from coming. Although we did use different methods… we just raised the academic requirements.’

23. U Vic has long had a reputation as a left wing institution. The people who chose to attend it voluntarily should assume the risks as well as the benefits associated with attending a left wing institution and suck it up when they are quite fairly portrayed as being graduates of an extremist institution that no reasonable employer wants any part of.

24. “And parents should know that in sending their little tykes to UVIC they are ensuring they will emerge as unemployable welfare sucking, fascist communists.”
    No, they’re future NDP politicians. UVIC is well known in B.C. as the starting point for people who later run for office, or work for , the provincial NDP. Several cabinet ministers in former NDP governments were grads of this institution.
    A friend of my son has attended there for the last two years, and is currently a student there. The young fellow is what I’d call ” sensible” left, and he complains to me that many of the professors at UVIC are so left wing, he finds their rhetoric quite disgusting.
    The result is he’s starting to see my point about extremism at either end of the political spectrum.
    Probably will vote Conservative by the time he’s forty. 😉

25. Let me get this straight. The Leader of Iran, who has repeatedly called for the annihilation of the state of Israel and sponsors terrorism against the west and east alike is allowed to speak at a University in the United States….
    …and the Canadian Military, which protects our rights, spreads freedom abroad and establishes peace in wartorn nations isn’t allowed on campus in Canada.
    The argument for allowing Ahmadinejad at Columbia is Free speech: What’s the excuse here?
    Of Course, Student Unions banning groups they disagree with isn’t a new tactic; MUN banned a shelter for pregnant women from appearing on campus because of their pro-life stance. Ironically, this was spearheaded by the Women’s resource centre at the university. They all had to back down afterwards after the University Admin laid the smackdown. Glad to know the Adults are still in Charge around here.
    Didn’t we used to arrest people like those at UVic for treason back in the day?

26. If we go back through the mists of time to when these student unions were formed, we discover they are entirely creations of the Left.
    I have this idea. We should have a TAX CUT, and the universities can save money by de-funding the student unions right across the country. Let the student Lefties have their powows out on the front lawn, they don’t need a multi-million dollar building to do this kind of stupidity in.
    They could also save money by cutting off all the dead limbs from the Tree of Knowledge currently hiding all manner of no-talent trough wallowers. Start with Women’s Studies and anything that has “queer” in the title, then go after the Liberal Arts and Social Science departments with a chain saw.
    We pay these people to do this stuff. We pay them handsomely. We should stop.

27. Here’s a thought to smack the silly twits.
    How about every member of the CF, regular, reserve, SHR,or CIC,who attends, teaches, or has anything to do with that university, all show up wearing their uniforms tomorrow. They need not say anything…
    😉

28. Kudos to the students who are speaking out against these sanctimonious little twerps.
    They should make a habit of it!

29. ISnt this where public funding is supposed to make a difference. If you are a private organzuation that receives no funds or support you can reasonably restrict the use of your facilities.
    However, if you reveive 1 iota of public funding you need are required to accept all comers as long as it is not illegal….see the case of the lesbian wedding reception at a Knights of Columbus Hall.
    So either accept everything that comes with public funding or refuse to accept the funding

30. here’s the url of the pro-military facebook group that’s organizing against the student union board. 350 members and counting…
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5990473827&ref=share
    (need a facebook account to view this)

31. Good one, Jon.

32. Ok, let’s list some war crimes committed by members of the CF.
    1. fighting forest fires in Canada
    2. fighting floods in Canada
    3. conducting search and rescue(normally saving moonbats who should not be sailing) missions in Canada
    4. aid to civil power for snow storms, ice storms, etc
    5. feeding and providing essentials to victims of disaster around the globe
    6. providing security for 5 million innocent Afghani civilians from the terrorist thug taliban
    Oh ya, all of those things are war crimes. F&^%ing idiots sound just like their a$$hole parents. Brainwashed commies, every last one of them! GO ARMY – KILL TALIBAN!

33. Yet another import from the United States…..military = baby killers.
    The Canadian left is more like their US cousins than the Canadian right, not that there s anything wrong with it…..just ironic

34. I bet several of these wing nuts are known supporters of the NDP. When it comes time for the next election make this an issue. The NDP has run far too well in the island despite its obvious dislike of the Canadian military.

35. I’m with the Phantom – cut off funding to any and all organizations that are trying to subvert our society.
    In Australia, participation in student unions was made voluntary 2 years a ago, resulting in a marked drop in militant campus politics

36. I have said it here before, but it is worth repeating. The loonie left just cannot process how well the Canadian troops are doing in combat. They seem to have no knowledge of the history of the Canadian military, as we have been feared by any enemy who has engaged us in the field. Canadian soldiers are the most efficient killing machines in the world, always have been(since this country was formed)always will be. Ask the taliban, for they know the truth. Canadian soldiers rock! GO ARMY!

37. jlc…..oohhh I like that one.
    Thats the way it should be.

38. These empty headed students have yet to learn that EVERY COUNTRY HAS A MILITARY … THEIR OWN OR SOMEONE ELSE’S
    Except for Costa Rica, and a couple of other shoebox states without formal defence arrangements with nearby military powers.

39. ++Mike
    Wearing uniforms is a simple way to make a good point. It may cause a few heads to explode when they realize just how many people are involved with the military in one form or another.
    Cheers,
    lance

40. glamorize its brand?? their commercials on TV make them look pretty good? “propaganda” or “truth manipulation”??
    What about McDonald’s or Starbucks.. or pick any other company? Doesn’t their advertising glamorize the brand? When have you ever had a Big Mac that looks like it does on the commercial? Please… all entities glamorize their brand.. and yet us silly consumers still seem to be able to make a choice.
    Perhaps the twits running the SUB and UVic (my alma mater – ’88) should consider banning all organizations that partake in “propaganda” and “false advertising” (like Starbucks and Labatts) instead of discriminating against just one organization.

41. BTW.. I’ve just called the Development office at UVic and told them that I will not be giving my substantial annual alumi donation.. you know, the one they target me for because I’ve actually achieved some finanical success being the dirty conservative I am… because of the inflammatory and polictical actions of a University endored organized.
    Sometimes putting your voice into $$ can make more impact!

42. In Australia, participation in student unions was made voluntary 2 years a ago, resulting in a marked drop in militant campus politics
    Excellent idea – since students are always in need of money to buy drugs and clothes and pay cover charges (oops, I mean cover high tuition fees and buy books), I imagine something like this could be quite popular.

43. “If only 7% of the student pop chooses to vote then they are foregoing their right to have a say in how that body operates.”
    Speaking as a former engineering student who never once voted in a student election, I can tell you exactly why that is. Student unions are all about the artsy-fartsy types, the types who’ll spend ten years in school gathering up useless degree after useless degree and going on to either work for government or not at all. Those of us who were there to learn something useful can’t be bothered with that crap. We engineers mostly stuck to our own turf and let the artsys do their meaningless fluff – we, after all, had work to do. When you’re spending 5 hours a day in lectures, 3 hours a day in labs, and hours after that doing assignments, lab reports, and studying for exams, you don’t have time for the useless gabbering that passes for politics on campus.
    So put me down with Ted: don’t condemn the entire student body for the actions of the left-wing nuts. The good students are too busy learning for their future occupations (which sadly will end up supporting these losers who’ll be unemployable).

44. Traveling country wide for a living, I believe out here on the wet coast we have a monopoly when it comes to leftoid views.

45. “as well as a major takedown of the radical lefties who have hijacked our democratic process.”
    This is what the radical filth on the left do. They hijack commitees, create special interest groups to acquire taxpayer money, etc. all to foist their undemocratic will on the vast majority.
    However, it is the fault of the majority to allow this to happen.
    Once again, Australia is ahead of us in solving this problem.
    We should all be aware and actively involved in smoking out the leftists and crushing their obscenely ignorant, yet totalitarian tactics.
    If we were half as organised as they, this conversation would be moot.

46. In a similar vein on leftist mentality while delivering pamphlets for John Tory I met a lady doing the same thing for the Liberal candidate. We got talking and I asked her how she felt about McGuinty lying about his huge tax increase when he stated and signed he wouldn’t raise taxes if elected. She replied “I’m a retired teacher and I don’t know much about that stuff.”
    With nothing more to say I wandered away.

47. On display is unabashed liberal elitism, folks. The message is always that you/we are too dumb, illiterate, hoodwinked, feeble-minded and ignorant to decide how we feel or act in any regard. A government manned by progressive liberals must decide and dictate everything, from whether you may sign up for the military to whether or not you can choose to spend $200 from the government on beer and cigarettes.
    THIS, my conservative friends, is what we must fundamentally oppose. It’s a question of freedom versus authoritarianism.
    GO UVic PROTESTORS!

48. I wonder if the CFs are going to come to campus if allowed or invited now? Would the tension be too high? Would they need the police to protect their booth from enraged students? What kind of image would that look like? It’s nice that the “principle” is what is being discussed about freedom of speech etc… but from a practical point of view – I’d be surprised if anything comes from this.

49. Re: UVIC. I say nuke em!!

50. UVic has had a very militant, leftist Student Union for decades. They’ve stirred up controversy in the past too, most notably when they banned CF (and RCMP) recruiting ads in the Student newspaper and disrupted CF recruiting booths.