The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year (2006) in which skeptics were compared to “Holocaust Deniers” and Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate alarmists.
The Weather Channel’s (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global warming program “The Climate Code,” is advocating that the American Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their “Seal of Approval” for any television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is creating a climate catastrophe.
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Cullen’s call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News 60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to “Holocaust deniers” and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as “global warming deniers.”
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Cullen’s call for suppressing scientific dissent comes at a time when many skeptical scientists affiliated with Universities have essentially been silenced over fears of loss of tenure and the withdrawal of research grant money. The United Nations Inner Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process has also steadily pushed scientists away who hold inconvenient skeptical views and reject the alarmist conclusions presented in the IPCC’s summary for policymakers.
There’s that “consensus” we keep hearing about.
Update – A challenge for Al Gore – declined;
Al Gore is traveling around the world telling us how we must fundamentally change our civilization due to the threat of global warming. Today he is in Denmark to disseminate this message. But if we are to embark on the costliest political project ever, maybe we should make sure it rests on solid ground. It should be based on the best facts, not just the convenient ones. This was the background for the biggest Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, to set up an investigative interview with Mr. Gore. And for this, the paper thought it would be obvious to team up with Bjorn Lomborg, author of “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” who has provided one of the clearest counterpoints to Mr. Gore’s tune.
The interview had been scheduled for months. Mr. Gore’s agent yesterday thought Gore-meets-Lomborg would be great. Yet an hour later, he came back to tell us that Bjorn Lomborg should be excluded from the interview because he’s been very critical of Mr. Gore’s message about global warming and has questioned Mr. Gore’s evenhandedness. According to the agent, Mr. Gore only wanted to have questions about his book and documentary, and only asked by a reporter. These conditions were immediately accepted by Jyllands-Posten. Yet an hour later we received an email from the agent saying that the interview was now cancelled. What happened?
A “climatological apostate”?
Well whose going to be our saviour now?
Well I’ve always favoured the time honoured version of Divine Providence.
Thus far, for the last 5 generations, it was more likely that governments were going to put us in the grave, than the climate ever was. Why on earth would I start believing these two bit hucksters with their apocalyptic clap trap.
If I want to read about the Apocalypse I can consult the book of Revelations.
Well God help us, because these climatological doom sayers sure aren’t.
Given the last three dumps of snow in Lotusland of Greater Vancouver, the danger of global warming is overstated to say the least.
The old standard of nuclear apocalypse has at least solid scientific basis like releasing the power of the sun to a balmy 10-100 million degrees C. And at least its all over in a flash, rather than a long lingering global warming like a frog in a warming pot of water.
I mean if your going to play harum scarum, at least put the ‘fear of God’ into everybody.
Of course this might cast into question the notion of responsible government, but then the last couple of centuries of ‘human development’ haven’t been exactly awe inspiring.
The time honoured version of Divine Providence is still more appealing than the current lot of nonsense.
And BTW what is the penalty for being a ‘climatological apostate’?
Obviously, China doesn’t believe in climate change seeing as they are reportedly planning some 525 coal fired plants around their country.
Anything we do is cancelled or superceded by the Chinese GHG planned outputs. But I forgot the Chinese governments are atheists and so don’t believe in either God or Climate change.
So, a la Front Page Challenge, will the real terrorists please stand up!
Thus we conclude that the Chinese are climatological and human rights terrorists; while the Islamo-fascists are your garden variety terrorists.
Joanne (TB):
Right, I forgot about Dufus Suzuki’s fig leaf pose! Wonder if the leaf was organically grown?
Apparently…in post-WWII Germany, you couldn’t find anyone who admitted to being a Nazi, knowing a Nazi, or who had even HEARD of the Nazis…………it’d be interesting to see if the same applies to Global Change adherents in 20-30 years.
Interesting analogy re: cults ET….maybe they’ve all been promised those 70 virgins when they get to heaven thingy
Best line on Kyoto:
“Overspend-wise, think of the gun registry as a National Film Board documentary short and Kyoto as Waterworld”
– Mark Steyn –
I’m not sure I’ve seen any supposed scientific body so adverse to scepticism as climatology.
It reminds of scientific pioneers like Galileo, Kepler, and Newton that faced similar oppression from the church.
This just typical of all leftists you sensor the critics and i bet AL GORE apluads such actions him and the raddical GREENPEACE freaks. If they do that then we should just turn off the WEATHER CHANNEL and those who are sensored should sue over it
Fewer particulates in the atmosphere means more solar energy on the surface. Particulates from? Human activity, of course. Volcanoes, of course. What does science tell us about the transmissiveness of our atmosphere over the last few decades?
Our efforts to reduce air pollution have resulted in clearer skies. More solar energy. Global warming.
Liz J. – Wonder if the leaf was organically grown?
lol! I’m sure it was never tested on animals, anyway.
Kyoto says…China, Russia and India, (and the developing world) should be allowed to increase their emissions.
Kyoto says…the western industrial nations, should cut their emissions and pay fees to allow the developing nations to increase theirs.
The western media, says without the wests complete submittal to Kyoto,
the planet is doomed….doomed I tell ya.
Well ah…
Is there a climate change problem or not?
China, Russia and India seem to disagree.
Building all those new power plants, says to me…What climate problem!
They don’t seem too concerned about any climate change problem at all…
Their only concern seems to be ..who is going to pay for all those power plants, now that Harper has cut 12 billion out of the Kyoto (gravy train) pipeline.
What a scam the socialists had cooking….
Why is this climate change problem, linked to our cutting emissions, but the rest of the world can increase theirs?
One more time…is there a climate change problem or not???
It seems the Kyoto environmentalists have a major credibility problem.
Just asking.
OT: Shadow cabinet to be announced soon and goodale stays as house leader. But, poor dion has named codere to some post. That will help erase scandal from the liberal scene, isn’t he the guy being sued for 900M for refusing to allow someone into Canada, another Arar in the making. At least dion has his wish for equal opportunity, a former liberal female is being sued along with him.
Look at who he appoints, as JVD says, this is what the cabinet will look like if dion wins.
Why doesn’t dion ever mention the word liberal or liberal party. Must be ashamed of it. Also notice the media seldom uses those words, just dion. Wont work with the public, we remember liberals are corrupt, and we will continue to link the word dion=liberal.
not_so_amused I love water world!
🙂
Mary T. – and wasn’t Coderre one of the ones who marched in a Pro-Muslim demonstration? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Giggles will take questions re the shadow cabinet today, but, in order to get questions posted you must first register. G&M must be afraid of the true feeling of cdns. Can’t you just vision her having orgasmic moments over dion. Let’s hope she can translate what he says. Dion want equality in the next liberal caucus. I vote it will be Fry and Dion only.
Words cannot express the outrage I have knowing that the MSM will NEVER ask the questions that need to be asked about Y2Kyoto. The fact that the 500 odd coal fired plants to be built in Uncle Mo’s/Paul Martin’s adopted country of China will effectively cancel out any emissions reductions implemented by the west. This needs to be SCREAMED from the rooftops. But all you will hear is the do-gooders of the First Church of Climatology spew thier junk science. Alberta is bad, so tax her. Conservatives/big business is bad, so tax them into submission.
Funny how no one ever did an energy audit as to how much Jet-B gets burned schlepping the likes of Al (Captain Ozone) Gore and the furry little gnome Suzuki around their respective countries preaching how bad the rest of us are for owning a Chevy Trailblazer or a John Deere diesel powered combine. Does no one see the irony here?
#$%&-ing left-lib double standard is alive and well. Hang onto your wallets fellow Albertans/Right thinkers. Should that Iraq Osamma….er…Barrack Obamma character ever get the keys to the Lincoln bedroom that will spell the beginning of the end. How much you want to bet he names either Al Gore or Oprah Whinfrey as a running mate?
Step one is to keep the likes of Stepahane Dion/Power Corp. away from 24 Sussex. The next is to expose the MSM as what they are: shills for the lunatic left-lib establishment of nepotism and brown paper bag payoffs. Step 3: sell off the CBC and destroy any evidence of it ever existing (like the Avro Arrow, except this time there’s good reason to destroy everything).
I need a drink….and it’s only 9:00 AM!
Scotland has made it illegal for a teacher to challenge global warming, they are now forced to teach it as fact. On the other hand, Washington state has ruled that if a school is to show Al Gore’s movie, they must present opposing views.
The envirofascists are already attempting to strip scientists of their degrees. Others are losing their jobs. What will they attempt next? Death by listening to Al Gore?
It seems the rest of us, and I believe it’s the majority, are being forced to become just as militant, if not more. Imagine a civil war over the environment, started by these leftard limp wrists? Like ‘Quantuum Liberal!,’ oh boy, supercharged, and his French Citizen surrender monkey leader.
Well there’s the answer, do them both in and there will be that much less CO2 and noise pollution. They can be the first of many enivromartyrs.
I like Glen Beck’s solution the best so far. Let’s blow up the sun.
Speaking of singing, wonder if Steffawn has any singing ability? Perhaps if he could sing in English we would be able to understand him better.
He could aways get a few tips from Celine.
irwin: The sun may be to blame, but we have to ask ourselves “why does the sun hate us?” It must be because there is a Republican in the White House.
If we all ate organic, drank soy lattes, sang kumbaya and voted for Al Gore, then Mommy Nature would cut us some slack. What’s that? Oranges froze in California? I thought global WARMING implied a RISE in temperature….
What’s this?….oh a new hymn book published for the First Church of Climatology…..we will now be singing about climate CHANGE….
Eskimo:
My selection of the first climatological hymns you learn will be:
“How Gaia Thou Art”
“The Book of Biomass”
“May the Albedo Be Upon You”
“The Coming of the Homeostasis”
“Baptized in Biodiversity”
and the all time favorite:
“May the Daisy World shine upon you.”
“I am very thankful that the scientific community didn’t force everyone to agree to accept global cooling and the coming ice age as fact back in the 70’s”
Well the “scientific community” didn’t believe in it back then. Outside of a magazine article or two you wouldn’t have heard nary a peep about it back then. Its largely being referred to now purely as a talking point.
“What’s that? Oranges froze in California? I thought global WARMING implied a RISE in temperature….”
Well we still have this thingy called “Winter” which is still expected to occur once a year.
The fight continues. Apparently, the producer of Al Gore’s movie on ‘global warming’ has tried to get the US National Science Teacher’s Association to send its members free DVDs of Gore’s tutorial on climate change. The NSTA is refusing. So far.
Activists are trying to smear NSTA, saying that it has ties to ‘Exxon Mobil’, a company, they say that “has spent millions misinforming the public about global warming”. heh – I thought it was Al Gore who has done that.
It’s in Science, Vol 314, Dec 8/06. Another tidbit in that same issue, is that about 55 million years ago, the earth experienced a phase of warming that lasted about 170,000 years – and coincided or led to massive biological responses, including the appearance of modern types of mammals. And of course, there were phases of cooling within the longer warming phase.
The basic reality is that the climate changes. Constantly. Humans are hardly the basic or sole cause – and I think we must differentiate the very real problems of pollution from climate change.
yes the diagnosis is Official…
Jack Layton has been Diagnosed with Mad Cow Disease…
sources indicated that the possible source is from all the bullshit he spreads about Global Warming……possible?? of course it is…nothing is impossible…..stay tuned to today’s NEWS about the Climate changed today…..friggin IDIOTS…it changes everyday…it is always changing….that is why they call it Climate Change……friggin idiots
Given the pictures of the Martian ice cap melting I think the present burst of hysteria is the last gasp at grabbing whatever they can get before the wheels come off.
BTW, anybody heard from Sarah Brady lately? I believe all these shrills will soon be found in whatever purgatory she’s hiding out in.
I wonder if the growers in California were allowed to use smudge pots or are they illegal now because they might contribute to global warming. Oh well, there is always Tang. Or as one poster said drink a glass of water and take a vitamin c. And speaking relatively, frozen oranges is now a billion dollar emergency for Californians but 20 billion a year of taxpayer money spent on illegal immigrants is status quo. Wasn’t Arnold Mr. Freeze in one of the Batman movies?
Ever heard the one about the boy who cried “Wolf”?
The enviro-cultist watermelon marxists have cried “wolf” far too many times…
It is to scream. Listening to Dion spouting there has been nothing done on the environment for a year is enough to send the meekest among us into a rage. What the ‘ELL WERE ‘IM AN”IS PARTY DOING ‘BOUT IT FOR TEN YEARS?
It’s become urgent for that pack of sore losers because they have no other issue to run on.
Being as it’s an issue high in obscurity, it suits their purpose to try to fool as many people as possible by giving vague answers and citing “Experts” from their Church of the Gospel of Environmentalism.
OT: Looks like the shadow Cabinet is going to cast a large shadow over Parliament. Everybody has a job, even Volpe. Now doesn’t he serve as a reminder of SOMETHING?
years ago , Dr David Suzuki did a “Nature of Things” special on primates , gorillas, chimps, bonabos and humans. He was standing in a shower , nude at least from the waist up talking about sucessful breeding structures , he said gorillas use dominance and have a small peni s , bonabos use multiple matings, then he said he as a human had an ABOVE AVERAGE sized peni s.
Ive seen him in fig leaf – he has had no credibility with me since.
“According to him, Nairobi was founded right where it was too cold for malaria to occur. However, with global warming advancing, he tells us that malaria is now appearing in the city”
Too cold for malaria? The Great White North isn’t too cold for malaria!
But maybe things were warmer them. It’s not part of my life’s personal observations, which is what most people seem to be judging their beliefs on.
“malaria was in Ontario both before and after the building of the Rideau Canal.”
“During the time of construction of the Rideau it was referred to a “Lake Fever” or “Swamp Fever”.
Excerpt from “Three Years In Canada” by John MacTaggart, 1829.
“Canada has a large, share of disease, like most other countries: it is not so very fine and healthy, as has been reported—
This is the most prevalent disorder: sometimes it proves fatal, but not generally so by any means. It leaves, however, dregs of various kinds behind it, which often end in dropsies, consumptions, &c. Those who have had it once will most likely have a touch of it every year.”
http://www.rideau-info.com/canal/history/locks/malaria.html
cal2:
That was back when Dufus Suzuki was getting his jollies in the Jungle.
Heidi Cullen, eh?
Hmm…..is she any relation to “Buffy Denver”, the weathergirl from that Bob Newhart episode; you know, the gal that forecasts “frizzy-hair” days?
“I am very thankful that the scientific community didn’t force everyone to agree to accept global cooling and the coming ice age as fact back in the 70’s”
“Well the “scientific community” didn’t believe in it back then.”
Sez Jose.
Well, looky here Jose. Same hype, scientific experts, and fear-mongering words and phrases. WE’RE DOOMED!
You really need to acquire a modicum of information/evidence before posting your dumb-ass opinion.
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The Cooling World – Newsweek April 28, 1975 (excerpts)
There are ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard pressed to keep up with it. In England farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950.
Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in thirteen U.S. states.
To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down.
If the climate change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences…
A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3 per cent between 1964 and 1972.
Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about 7 degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average.
The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
Wasn’t Suzuki charged with poaching for once catching a salmon out of season? I’ve heard this before. It was also rumoured that he cried like a baby while the RCMP wrote him up…..maybe this is just folklore/wishful thinking on my part! Just kidding! (Fear of litigation disclaimer-hey the dude may have Kinsella on retainer, I’m not going to risk Kate’s good name!)
Anyone catch the Rutherford show last year when Dave had Suzuki on as a guest? Rutherford kept pestering him with the “why should we listen to you regarding the environment, isn’t your expertise in fruit flies/genetics?” Finally Suzuki had to admit “hey man, I’m just going by what other people tell me”. I could almost picture him sparking up his bong while he tucked in the hand sewn hemp shirt tail which came dislodged as he reached down to strike the match on the sole of his “Columbia” hiking boot.
It was a great moment in Canadian broadcasting history, but the tumbleweeds danced slowly across the deserted street in the warm prairie wind…..a quintessential “tree falling in the forest” moment.
“You really need to acquire a modicum of information/evidence before posting your dumb-ass opinion.”
Umm, you didn’t refute me one bit. I don’t deny that Newsweek ran a story on an upcoming Ice Age in the 70s. It’s a big leap from that article to extrapolate that the “scientific community” was all abuzz about a new Ice Age.
Straw man argument. Ad hominem. Insult. Repeat. You need to work on your debating style.
“Welcome to the Church of Climatology” ?
No no, I’m sorry but I’m a …”Climatological Apostate”
I love it.
Jose,
So I suppose you in your infinite wisdom believe the scientists and scientific organisations cited in the article are not actually, duh, scientists?
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Seeing as how David Suzuki’s and Al Gore’s CO2 footprint from flying all over the freakin’ world is at least 100x greater than the average person, I modestly suggest a better solution than Kyoto:
Eniviromartyrdom.
Then both left and right would be satisfied.
A Quantum Liberal wrote: “P.S. Is SSM or the LPC’s CC policy really how you define a lefty?”
Quantum and Jose are quintessential examples of liberal/left ‘wishful thinking’. The rest of us live with reality as it is, while they mold their reality into what they wish it would be.
Example? Since Quantum raised the issue of SSM, let me point out the Ontario Supreme Court judge who recently ruled that a child can have three parents, as shown on his birth certificate. This is clearly a case of trying to get reality to conform to ones personal beliefs. Unless biology has changed recently, you can still have only one spermatozoa and one ovum create a new human being – hence, only two biological parents, regardless of their personal living arrangements.
The judge found that the ‘feelings’ of the non-biological parent and the ‘nurturing’ of the child, trumped the physical reality of conception. And liberals are good with that – bend, twist and re-invent the biological imperative – after all its’ simply an inconvenient truth.
Jose wrote: “I don’t deny that Newsweek ran a story on an upcoming Ice Age in the 70s. It’s a big leap from that article to extrapolate that the “scientific community” was all abuzz about a new Ice Age.”
C’mon, Jose. It doesn’t become a feature article in Newsweek until it becomes the defacto belief of the age. Newsweek and other mainstream media are not leaders, they are followers who trumpet what is already widely the prevailing wisdom. Newsweek was not a ‘one off’ article – it was simply an earlier iteration of what we’re seeing today. Same coin. Different side.
Liberals. As Jack Nicholson so famously said, “You can’t handle the truth!”
“Quantum and Jose are quintessential examples of liberal/left ‘wishful thinking’. The rest of us live with reality as it is, while they mold their reality into what they wish it would be.”
Randy, another way of putting it:
“A paranoid when confronted with evidence sees reality as a plot.”
I watched a program on PBS last night, China from the inside, that dealt with the Chinese environment. They were showing shots of Beijing and other cities and the massive smog, as well as the unbelievable water pollution. I commented to a family member that, under Kyoto, these are the people we’d be buying carbon credits from, as they were clever enough not to sign onto Kyoto.
The scope of the pollution was unbelievable. One village was shown in which the cancer rate would be expected to be 1/1000. Instead, it was 1/100!
Supposedly they are trying to address the situation, but how much of what was shown is party propaganda for the foreign devils?
A recent issue of Bicyling magazine has a feature on the Flying Pigeon, a 40# Chinese bike which was at one time the major form of transportation for the masses. And now, with the rise of the middle class, bikes are seen as what the poor ride and owning a car proves that you’ve “made it” as well as giving you freedom/mobility. Just like North Americans. Think they’ve got smog problems in California? Wait until you get all those gazillion Chinese in SUVs. Kyoto indeed.
“C’mon, Jose. It doesn’t become a feature article in Newsweek until it becomes the defacto belief of the age.”
Then there should be dozens if not hundreds of other articles and published studies on the subject. People who were around during the 70s should remember being bombarded with news of the impending Ice Age on the news.
It’s revisionist history pure and simple. Does anyone here that is old enough to remember the 70s (I am) actually remember an impending Ice Age theory that dominated the “scientific community”?
Personally I think Heidi Cullen is Hot. A nutty environmentist to be sure but still hot. Wait a minute……Could Heidi Cullen be the a cause of global warming??????
Jose,
The ice age we heard of in the 70’s was barely a blip on the radar compared to the Cult of Kyoto we are now “enjoying” today. This whole Eco/Enviro/Kyoto CRAPOLA is second only to radical Islam in terms of rabid fundamentalsim.
The charismatic far right Bible thumping Christians are pussies compared to the Kyoto Kool-Aid Krew.
I think what we have developing here is a faith based on a Religion of Environmental nature worship.
Whose foundations are humanistic socialism with faith In a nebulous force called Nature .Whom they must bow before with sacrifices made by the wasters ( Read tax paying citizens, certainly not Suzuki & his class of leftists. Indeed they will suck in the loot for themselves aligned with there political masters.). To appease the Global warming Mother Goddess while plundering our wallets . The tenants of this faith based ideology are the idea that man is both the cancer of the planet, as well as the grand despoilers. The gross egotism to imagine creatures like us changing a whole biosphere, is an unconscionable form of vanity. If not a complete break with realism. We are only mortal , not gods. Nor can we fix a whole planet or kill one. Life always triumphs.
Fact is the real pollution is killing us in our cities. Water tables poisoned, air pollution & chemical overkill. None alone or in tandem could never destroy the entire Earth. This is what where doing bad & its fixable. Has been in the US & many other Countries without the bag men with ad agencies. Making C02 a vital component of our atmosphere into an instigator, shows them for what they really are . Snake oil salesmen, lower than a snake in a wagon rut.
Now we have the Jimmy Swaggart of environazis David Suzuki, & his fellow asylum inmates. Trying to thump up an inquisition in the name of holy science. There version anyway. Against any perceived violation of there computer models , sanctioned in unreason. To totally discredit any who are unbelievers. This is not science. Its Faith!!!
Where are the free speech lefties decrying this cattle call? I see no outrage at going after other scientists, because of a group with a fanatics agenda mixed without divide a religious favor with bogus stats. That wants to persecute anyone who challenges them. Shut them up entirely by revoking credentials . All for our & the Earth s good of course. This is not the scientific method, its pure dogma devoid of facts, based in assumption with faulty computer models. A con game like Y2K.
Frankly its becoming sickening watching these charlatans pimping there love lorn odes to the Mother Goddess. I find it as repugnant in different ways, as the Jihadists trying to force there beliefs on us. As destructive you can be sure. Only this group claims to be above criticism, with the right to reproach those that disagree with them. If not destroy there livelihood, lives or work.
It has truly become sordid. Considering this will violate our economy, while suckling our enemies, by giving them money to pollute forever. To build their industry while we dismantle ours. What pray tell happens if these folks decide to attack us when we have weakened this polity with these delusions?. Oh I forgot all but Anglos, or Europeans, are monstrous imperialists with bloody hands made in a benign world of other who only desire peace. Yeah right!!!
More Socialist suicide hogwash. The real beneficiaries will be China , Dictators, Mo Strong & the Jihadists. As well as those compromised scientific institutions, who will along with the corrupt liberals, plunder us into a new age of there making & greed.
Just my opinion
Thanks Revnant Dream,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post.
buy carbon credits from China!….GREAT idea!…We can ship the money over in the boatloads of under priced wheat we sell ’em through the Communist Wheat Board….not to worry though… it’s only the west that’s getting screwed….don’t bother mentoning the millions of acres of western farmland that can (and does) soak up CO2!….better to pay China than have any Kyoto blood money leak into Canada’s “hinterland”……We’re so unworthy out here!
Revenant said: “Read tax paying citizens, certainly not Suzuki & his class of leftists. Indeed they will suck in the loot for themselves…”
Too true, Rev. In parallel to the idea of GW/CC and Islam being the two new pets of the left, I have often thought that the left falls conspicuously into two camps. Those who ‘lead’, believe that any blow they might inflict on the economy won’t affect them personally. They’ll go on being the darlings of the idiotarian universe, shilling and collecting their speaking fees.
The other is the ‘follower’. Those who so often are either unwilling or unable to compete in the game of life. Forever envious. Forever doomed. They don’t care so much that they haven’t succeed in the material world, so long as they see that the wealth creators are hobbled.
In Islam, it’s the immams, mullahs and radicalized young preachers of the Wahhabi schools who exhort others to die. (ALERT: if you haven’t seen the six part Britain CH4 documentary: Dispatches-Undercover Mosque, do so immediately at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k&eurl=) This is part 3 of 6.
They’re not quite ready to die themselves, as their work is more important than a few young lives. They’re recruiting for Allah.
Dr. Heidi is performing damage control after having said “ If a meteorologist can’t speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn’t give them a Seal of Approval.”
She now has posted “I’ve read all your comments saying I want to silence meteorologists who are skeptical of the science of global warming. That is not true. The point of my post was never to stifle discussion. It was to raise it to a level that doesn’t confuse science and politics. Freedom of scientific expression is essential.”
http://climate.weather.com/blog/9_11592.html
Revenant “I think what we have developing here is a faith based on a Religion of Environmental nature worship.”
Your right to identify religious elements in the environmental movement, they’ve always been there. It’s worth noting that the AGW didn’t come from them although some of them have certainly jumped on the bandwagon.
There’s also magical thinking on the other side of the argument. Basicaly christian dominionism, the same people who still don’t grok evolution. Not exactly titans of rationality either. So if you’re looking to side that’s devoid of adherents whose thinking is devoid of religion I’m afraid there isn’t one.
The new world religion ” Climentology ” , an unholy marriage of Scientology and Climate Science . The only stipulations are the norm for both , undeniable faith , and 20% off the top from every man , woman and child in Canada .
Randy, I call the imams that exhort others to commit suicide in the service of Allah (i.e. them) Chickenmartyrs. If it’s a muslim’s duty to die for Allah, then what are they waiting for?