Nazanin Mahabad Fatehi

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Iran is set to execute a teenage girl for taking the life of one of three would-be rapists;

One would think that just about anyone, in this country, anyway, would oppose a teenaged girl’s being hanged for an act of self-defense. Yet, among those who raised a hue and cry about Saddam Hussein being “taunted” before being hanged for the murders of thousands, there has been a strange silence about Nazanin’s case. It is a bit troubling that so far, all of the liberals who have weighed in at the Forum have been hostile to the idea of asking Ellison and CAIR to use their influence on Nazanin’s behalf. Why is this, exactly?
[…]you can telephone Keith Ellison’s office at (202) 225-4755 (fax is (202) 225-4886). You can call CAIR at (202) 488-8787, fax them at (202) 488-0833, or email at info@cair.com.
I think most people believe that moderate Muslims world-wide need to stand up against the insanity that now prevails in countries like Iran. This strikes me as a good opportunity for moderate Muslims to show that they do not accept the precepts of Sharia and have no desire to impose them here or elsewhere.

Read the whole thing.
The contact info for the Canadian Islamic Congress is here.
Contact these people, too – since the womens’ issue currently “top of mind” is the firing of the Canadian Wheat Board president. (I guess “Adrian” could be a girl’s name…)

50 Replies to “Nazanin Mahabad Fatehi”

  1. I just threw up in my mouth. How can moderate muslims world-wide continue to allow this? Islam may only be 500 years younger than Christianity, but they are about 5000 years behind it in maturity.

  2. Words almost fail!
    Elmasry MUST speak or forever be tainted.
    ==================
    Sent to CAIR just now:
    Are you going to raise your voice against the hanging of a teenage girl for killing one of her rapists in self-defence?
    When is CAIR going to respect the “Canadian” part of its title?
    Patrick B******
    Calgary, AB

  3. I also sent a post to the CAIR, with a cc to the Globe and Mail’s Margaret Wente.
    As many posts of the SDA as possible should do this. The Liberals/NDP may do nothing; remember, they are all just rhetoric, but I think that conservatives mean what they say – and act on their words.
    Send posts to them.
    You can also send them to np AT canadianislamiccongress. com
    Yes, that’s ‘two ‘cc’.

  4. The very idea of talking to the CIC is appalling. I am curiously anticipating Iran’s reaction at Israel’s training of its bomber squads preparing to bust the nuke plants. Something tells me that we shall see drastic changes in Iran’s politics soon. That part of me, that tells me so, also tells me that TALKING to Iran about the fate of the girl is POINTLESS.

  5. they won’t do squat ’cause they are two faced skanks that protect the thugs & mullahs who run those backward countries.
    If the Arabs & the Persians hadn’t lucked out in the oil lottery, they would be just a desert wastelands – despotic, chaotic, useless nations living on past glories, blaming everyone else for their problems and substituting a genocidal religious belief because they can’t handle the real world

  7. You won’t see any great outcry from liberals on this issue, they’re gutless. You can judge how gutless a liberal is by how much he/she/it mouths off on some “fashionable” issue in an attempt to be part of the pack and gain points with (?)’s peer group.

  8. Nope .. still no mention of this atrocity on NOW’s website.
    However they are taking contributions to send Nancy Pelosi a giant congratulations card and the wage gap is of course still growing.
    Do you ever get the feeling that feminism is really only for the benefit of relatively wealthy white women?

  10. Why aren’t the hypocritical liberal feminazis standing up against this???
    Because it would involve taking the same side as George Bush, Steven Harper, Tony Blair, John Howard, etc.
    Because it would actually involve stating that there are such things as right and wrong.
    Because it doesn’t involve them, and they (wrongly) think that it never can.

  11. Has anyone contacted the Women are Angry about this. Are they angry. Maybe we should tell all these people that the potential hangers are conservatives, that would make them mad. Will the hanging be videoed and shown on TV.

  12. Leftbots, like the so-called ‘feminists’ and other liberals who are better than me or you, admire the Mullahs for the power they have over people – condemning them is the last thing they want to do, and they’ll only be seen to condemn them if they’re pushed.

  13. I’m just sick to my stomach over this folks,I have emailed the CIC but I know they will do nothing.

  15. Liberals identify with to perpetrator and Conservatives with the victim. Right now Liberals all over the world feel sorry for the would be rapist and feel nothing for the true victim. Liberals are thinking:”The poor guy must of hand his peepee slapped by mommy when he was a youngster so how could he be held accountable for what he tried to do to that hussy”.
    Even if the CIC does nothing at least we can make them feel like shit so send those emails people!!

  16. Just sent my email;eventhough I think it is just a political gesture that will not save Nazanin. The point about sending the mail is, however, to send the message to the likes of CIC that Canadians are waking up to the hypocrisy and reality of Islam. There are no moderate Muslims at this point; I don’t believe it. There is no room in the religion for moderates. In fact, as soon as one begins to define what moderate actually means, you find out that likely a tiny minority of practicing Muslims are moderates.

  18. I read a quote somewhere which seems appropriate….
    A muslim extremist is just a moderate in a hurry.

  19. When women are murdered by the state for defending themselves against rapists and “feminists” essentially do nothing it says more about the “feminists” than it does about the perpetrators of this heinous crime. If “feminists” acquiesce to a rape enough times rape will cease to be a crime and become a legitimate access to property dispute.
    Critics said that women’s studies were a place to send rich white women who did not have the brains or ambition to go through to become teachers, social workers or nurses.
    Critics said feminists just wanted cushy government jobs and to go to conferences to safely whine about how bad women have it in the US and Canada over a frothy latte. Hard to argue.
    If the MSM, feminists and the “so called” moderate muslims do not stand and FIGHT against women being killed for defending themselves against rapists they share much of the guilt with the muslims who will ultimately murder the woman who was defending herself against rape.
    Will feminists walk the walk? Not a chance in hell. Muslim women, you are on your own. Submit to the dictates of Islam. No help is coming from your western sisters

  21. Why on Earth are you writing to the CIC?
    Do you ignorant conservatives have any idea what sovereignty is?
    If you conservatives actually want to do something useful for a change instead of clogging up the blogosphere with your bitching and bile, or sending, what are ultimately useless (and probably utterly offensive) e-mails to those who have no power to help Nazanin anyway, I would suggest you visit Amnesty International’s webite and get some advice on where to send a letter to someone who has some power to save her:
    http://web.amnesty.org/wire/October2006/Iran
    Hmm, it looks like us dhimmi liberals have been on this case since October 2006. Where were the compassionate conservatives then?
    And to Yukon Gold, I think you’ll find that Christianity hasn’t quite made it to 5000 years yet. And where was Christianity 500 years ago anyway, in the Year of our Lord 1507? That’s right, smack bang in the middle of the Spanish Inquisition, burining lots of Jews at the stake.

  22. To bad your liberal compadres in the MSM and feminist organizations haven’t been publicizing the case. Too bad Amnesty International didn’t lean on them for more exposure. Widespread exposure to this kid’s situation has been because of conservative blogs.
    And, Grant, who cares about Christianity 500 years ago, that was then, this is now. Time has a way of altering paradigms and people. You were probably less of a jerk 20 years ago. Too bad you didn’t follow the direction of most Christians.
    Besides the snark, Grant, got any reasoned analysis to share with us?
    Like the UN, Amnesty International hasn’t got a lot of clout anymore. It lost most of its luster playing games of political selectivity in recent years. Nothing stays the same, Grant.

  23. Penny, what makes this case so important that all these organisations should be publicising the case or pushing for more exposure?
    What makes it more important than this one:
    http://web.amnesty.org/pages/gtm-151206-action-eng
    or this one:
    http://web.amnesty.org/actforwomen/qtr-221205-action-eng
    or this one:
    http://www.amnesty.org.au/news_features/news/svaw/nigeria_government_fails_women_and_girls_raped_by_police_and_security_forces
    Too bad your conservative comrades on this blog and Christian organistions haven’t been publicising these cases.
    When women are so fundamentally deprived of their human rights and conservatives essentially do nothing it says more about the conservatives than it does about the perpetrators of this heinous crime.
    Why aren’t the hypocritical conservative fundo-nazis standing up against this???
    Do these kind of silly arguments sound familiar Penny?
    But I would like to know why (at least as far as I can tell) no conservative is making a stand for these women. Perhaps its because none of these human rights violations are taking place in Iran, the enemy of choice at the moment.
    Whatever your precise political motives for taking an interest in Nazanin’s case, parading it as some legitimate concern for this girl’s welfare and human rights is pure hypocrisy, and sickening.
    As for my comments regarding Christianity, they were not intended as a reflection of the true nature of the faith, now or 500 years ago but rather as an illustration of the stupidity of Yukon Gold’s point, as you well know.

  25. “Whatever your precise political motives for taking an interest in Nazanin’s case, parading it as some legitimate concern for this girl’s welfare and human rights is pure hypocrisy, and sickening.”
    Grant, perhaps you’ve not noticed that your posting was only motivated and in substance was to take a swipe at conservatives. Re-read what you wrote. Your hypocrisy is appalling. So, is your lack of basic humanity. No one that has posted here, myself included, isn’t deeply concerned about this girl on a human level. To infer otherwise, makes you a big jerk.

  26. speaking of goings on in the middle earth aka middle east:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/
    seems things are hunky dory on the afghan side of the border, what with increased casualties among the bad bad bad taliban. on the other hand the increased casualty rate could be because THERES MORE OF THEM willing to die for their religion.
    all kinds of players, intrigue, double crossings, deal making, secrecy and naturally CIA involvement.
    how much outrage do you think would burst out if middle easterners took the war to american soil? oh right, that happened last time over 5 years ago and the yanks are still over there trying to change things to their perception.
    feel free to insert personal attack in the space provided:
    _
    |_|
    have a nice WW III !!!
    also regarding the state of christianity 500 years ago vs present day islam, I already tried to make a generalized comparison and got a hail of rocks for my effort to say there was hope in the long term.
    silly me.
    as far as Nazanin’s fate, here is the scoop: she is just a pawn, a convenient dupe and symbol of the hold the clerics have in iran. an intentional act of commission to illustrate the powerlessness the west has in ME affairs.
    the louder the outrage the more you seal her fate.
    IMHO the best chance to save her is some very private high level communiques pleading for the sake of fairness and the woman’s life that the mullahs ‘show mercy’ or some such tactic. the trick is give them a way out they can milk propaganda that spares her life and go from there.
    this is NOT the same as ‘appeasement’ and the naive ‘peace in our time’ chamberlain crap. you have to keep quite about the deal.
    cripes you people are so godam ignorant of the ways of the world.

  27. Exactly Penny, I posted to take a swipe at conservative hypocrisy and I never inferred that you weren’t concerned about Nazanin on a human level.
    What I am saying is that the posts on this blog are not motivated out of concern for Nazanin, rather they serve the dual purpose of attacking Iran, the enemy of choice at the moment and taking a grossly misdirected swipe at the left.
    How many of the posts on this thread actually mention Nazanin’s name? Half of them don’t even refer to her at all and most only casually so, instead using the opportunity to attack a person or group they don’t like.
    Out of my concern for Nazanin’s situation I will be sending a letter to Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, the Iranian Justice Minister, as the Amnesty International website suggests.
    What will you be doing Penny? Also, what will you be doing in regards to the cases of the other women I supplied links for in my previous post, who didn’t even rate a mention in your last post?

  28. Grant – Are we supposed to feel bad about every story the left leaning MSM doesn’t cover while they concentrate on the Bush-Harper Neocon atrocities?
    I mean hanging Saddam and eyeballing kooky Muslims at the airport, where is the humanity?
    Canada’s Armed Forces are currently fighting a war against the Taliban who indulge in the same kind of barbaric practices. Whats happening to the Left Wing support for that war?

  29. Brian, so you only feel bad about Nazanin’s story?
    Why this one exactly?
    PS. I can’t speak for the left in Canada as I’m not Canadian, but I supported the war in Afghanistan from its inception and still do. Have a nice day.

  30. For God’s sake Grant stay on the issue which is this poor young girl Nazanin. Your concern seems to be more about Conservatives and your false belief that we have a “hidden agenda” whenever we respond to something. How dare you assume that my concern is anything but genuine. As for speaking for all of the others you listed, I am sure you have missed million in your LIST and should I assume that because you don’t fight for EVERY person that has been wrongly persecuted that you have a “hidden agenda”. I would be a fool if I did. Try to keep your partisan comments out of it.

  32. Grant – My point was that the 24 hour news culture doesn’t actually cover very much news about the world. They are too busy trying to program us with their left wing sensibilities.
    I feel bad for Nazanin Afshin-Jam because hers is one of the few stories of the injustices in the world that leaked through despite the left wing MSM not wanting to hint that any part of the Axis of Evil might actually be evil.
    Trust me the left wingers in this country are renowned for their sympathy with the Taliban.

  33. Frances, why are you telling me to stay on topic and not Philanthropist, Reginacon, Silicon Valley Jim and Fred (the worst among several others) who either don’t mention Nazanin at all, but rather take the opportunity to take a swipe at liberals, feminists, Muslims etc etc. Why I am told to keep my partisan comments out of it and not JD, who posted this:
    “You won’t see any great outcry from liberals on this issue, they’re gutless”
    Is that, somehow, not partisan?
    I didn’t assume your concern wasn’t genuine Frances, as you hadn’t posted anything yet.
    I also didn’t say there was anything hidden about this conservative agenda. Its a rather blatant and open attempt to use a minor on death row for a conservative groupthinker attack the CIC, liberals, feminists etc etc.
    Sadly yes, I have not include millions, possibly billions in my list and just because you didn’t stand up for these women doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives have another agenda.
    What does reveal the conservative agenda is that out of the millions, possibly billions, you chose girl, Nazanin, an Iranian, a woman, a victim of sexual assault. You posted her story, no one elses, on your blogs. Am I to believe this was a coincidence and that there is no other agenda at play, or is there something else about Nazanin that makes her case worse, or makes her more deserving of you help than everyone else?

  34. “I also didn’t say there was anything hidden about this conservative agenda. Its a rather blatant and open attempt to use a minor on death row for a conservative groupthinker attack the CIC, liberals, feminists etc etc.”
    Grant, partisanship on any side is harmful when you are trying to deal with a serious issue, such as this. Your’s included and you proved my point by your statement implying, no stating as fact, that any conservative opinion is an “open” agenda.
    I could apply the same logic to everything you have said so far. You accuse us of the very thing you do yourself.
    Your ability to suck and blow at the same time is breathtaking.
    Please just take my word for it from my heart what they are doing to this young woman Nazanin is what we have spent all these years trying to change. It is wrong of you to assume that the only time we speak up for a cause is to “take the opportunity to take a swipe at liberals, feminists, Muslims etc etc.” I would suggest that you think too highly of yourself to think that I spend any time trying to prove that you have an “open agenda” to discredit all Conservatives.

  35. I find that taking shots at feminists and liberals is just therapeutic and I do it for my benefit alone. A mechanism to cope with the fact that other than the ability to send emails that will probably go unread, I, an insomniac in Ontario, have no power at all to affect Nazanin Fatehi’s fate. The outcome of her story will be decided in a tug of war between moderate and primitive Muslims in a far away land speaking a language I do not know.
    However I still retain the right to sympathize with Nazanin Fatehi and to offer encouragement and thanks to Nazanin Afshin-Jam and others who have tried to help her.

  36. Frances, tell me when did I state, and read this very carefully, that:
    “…any conservative opinion is an open agenda.”
    I did not, in fact, say that any conservative “opinion” was an open agenda, whatever that might mean. I said that this “tactic” of using a girl on death row to attack liberals, Muslims and feminsits etc etc revealed a sickening, political and typically conservative agenda.
    You do go on about my partisan comments but you still do not ackowledge that of your conservative groupthinker comrades. It seems that your ability to suck and blow is the one that is truly breathtaking, twisting my words and adding a few new ones along the way as well.
    I make no attempt to hide the partisan nature of my views here but I didn’t start this thread – or start the partisan attacks. Your ilk turned Nazanin’s case into a political football. Am I required to be too gracious to play Frances, is this kind of dirty game for conservatives only?
    It seems Frances, that you can give it out, but when someone tries to give it back, you just can’t take it.
    I don’t have an open agenda to discredit all conservatives Frances, just the hypocritical ones pretending to hold a place on the high moral ground.
    You still haven’t managed to answer my question either Frances. Why do you think its Nazanin’s story on this blog, and not some other person’s?

  37. The question is, was and remains “where are the feminists when a woman is slated to be murdered by a muslim state theocracy?”
    The first thing the left responders do is jump in with their anthem. Don’t just do something! Talk about it.
    Since there is no morally defensible answer to the question “where are the feminists when a woman is slated to be murdered by a muslim state theocracy?” the second thing left responders do is bring up their own off point questions that are meant to obfuscate and get off topic as soon as possible.
    Why don’t you use her name?
    Why don’t you use her name more often?
    Why are you picking on Iran?
    What about your hidden agenda?
    What about the Jews who died during the Inquisition? The lefties loved the old style Jews who died like sheep in the Inquisition and the Holocaust but have nothing but hatred, contempt and boycotts for stand up, gun-in-hand male and female Jews who stand up to fight for their right to exist. The lefties and the islamoterrorists share a nightmare; a feminist Jew with a gun.
    There are other dozens of other questions that the left responders will try to bring up in order not to face the question “where are the feminists when a woman is slated to be murdered by a muslim state theocracy?” but after you see through the obfuscation ploy you realize that by responding to their off topic answers you are letting them off the hook.
    I am sure of two things. If the left responders react to this post it will be by way of personal attack. If the left responders react to this post they will try to pose questions to get off topic but they will not honestly and directly address the question “where are the feminists when a woman is slated to be murdered by a muslim state theocracy?”

  38. I fired off a stinging e-mail to Elmasry and I signed the petition. I read that she gets a judge set aside the conviction and she gets a new trial today. Maybe they’re beginning to feel the heat on this. Hopefully they will come to whatever senses they have.

  39. robertbollocks said:
    “seems things are hunky dory on the afghan side of the border, what with increased casualties among the bad bad bad taliban. on the other hand the increased casualty rate could be because THERES MORE OF THEM willing to die for their religion.”
    In a war with religious fanatics this would probably be the guideline:
    The idea is not to die for your religion, but to make the other poor bastard die for his.
    (appology to Gen. G. P.)
    To Grant:
    You are very verbose. Maybe you should start your own blog? Of course you won’t be able to expect the kind of traffic seen here on the best Canadian blog of 2006. Any idea why that might be??? (hook, worm, bobber, bz-z-z-z-z-z, wait…)
    Yoop

  40. Grant you are unbelievable. The scary part is you probably believe what you are saying.
    First, answer to your question: “Frances, tell me when did I state, and read this very carefully, that:”…any conservative opinion is an open agenda.””.
    To quote directly from your post,”this conservative agenda. Its a rather blatant and open attempt”.
    Excuse me but that is exactly what you were saying.
    Now your accusation that I don’t address “your conservative groupthinker comrades”, which by the way is a nasty, un-necessary and juvenile statement, here is a direct quote from my post, “partisanship on any side is harmful when you are trying to deal with a serious issue”
    “Your ilk turned Nazanin’s case into a political football”.
    My ilk Grant, I was just responding to your nasty accusatory post, you have no idea what I am about. I will also use another quote from you “Am I required to be too gracious to play Frances, is this kind of dirty game for conservatives only?”
    That Grant is your suck and blow. Accusing me of just exactly what made me respond to your post in the first place. I am “playing”. Are only Liberals allowed to play?
    Lastly, there is this “Why do you think its Nazanin’s story on this blog, and not some other person’s?” My first thought was “huh”.
    The only answer to that one is “BECAUSE I WAS RESPONDING TO THIS STORY ON THIS BLOG ABOUT NAZANIN’S PLIGHT AND NOT THE BLOG ABOUT THE COST OF PORK BELLY OR WHATEVER ELSE IS OUT THERE”.
    Have a good life Grant and try to be more open minded.

  41. I read the book by Carl Estes on the life and career of George S Patton who overcame dyslexia and was the wealthiest general in the army at the time (before embarkation he financed repairs and maintenance on the equipment out of his own pocket). I also have both of the George C Scott Patton movies.
    the trick indeed is the make the other guy die for his religion/country.
    unfortunately suicide bombers do tend to take some of your people with them and inspire other ‘martyrs’ to follow in their footstep. read the headlines.
    what the immediate and medium future holds is uncertain. the long term future must be a middle east run by middle easterners.

  42. “Funk-meister”:
    “Sounds like a great plot line for ‘Little Mosque on the Prairie’.”
    Damn. You beat me to it.

  43. I just saw a FOX News feature story on Nazanin this afternoon. It was heart wrenching. They had a video of a call she placed to her mother from prison.
    Thank God for FOX. They have time and again, as just about the only one in broadcasting, had the courage to expose the rotten underbelly of Islam without equivocation and sanitizing.
    Oh, and, Grant, FOX is a conservative station responding as it should to the concerns of its viewers. Your smarmy and hypocritical insinuation that everyone BUT Grant is politcizing this girl’s situation isn’t working out too well for you.
    Here’s hoping that FOX’s coverage spills onto other networks. Putting this front and center on the news will probably be what saves her life.

  44. Why aren’t the hypocritical conservative fundo-nazis standing up against this???
    Grant
    Nazi’s are socialists like the NDP and Canada’s Fed Liberals.
    That’s what the Z stands for in Nazi , idiot!

  46. OMAG
    You cannot achieve independence for women or Angry Women or feminists while at the same time being totally dependent on government funds.
    If women or Angry Women or feminists truly cared about their sisters in muslim servitude they would find a way to do something; they might even use their own personal resources.
    If women or Angry Women or feminists truly cared about their sisters in muslim servitude being murdered by a theocratic state they would be a 24/7/365 plague on any theocratic state that dared to murder a women for defending herself from being raped.
    The financial impotence rhetoric is nonsense and everyone, including you, knows it.

  47. New trial, 4 judges says murder not intentional. Things are looking up, verdict in 3-4 days.Nazan was smiling according to her lawyer. International pressure has had an effect. Too bad that pressure didn’t come from the nag and sow and waa groups

  48. Penny,
    When did I insinuate that”…that everyone BUT Grant is politcizing this girl’s situation…”??
    Hmm?
    I have freely and openly admitted that I have been responding to the political aspects of this story, but only in response to the poltical “arguments” bandied about by groupthinking conservatives on this blog.
    As for your desire that yesterday’s FOX News coverage will spill into other networks, this CBC news story was posted to youtube on December 22:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNhCwAiawc
    Seems that FOX is actually the one that’s a little late on the uptake.
    Frances, people that twist other people’s words are very annoying. But lets try this again. When did I say:
    “…any conservative opinion is an open agenda.”
    And with emphasis:
    “…ANY conservative opinion is an open agenda.”
    As for your comments on your comrades, ” “partisanship on any side is harmful when you are trying to deal with a serious issue”. Goodness, what a scathing, vitriolic attack, showing a complete and utter lack of bias. If you are so even-handed, why didn;t you start by attacking the author of this thread, the one who made Nazanin’s story political in the first place.
    As for my the last quote you refer to, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’ve misread it. To make it more clear, and I’d still appreciate an answer, the question is:
    “Why do you think its Nazanin’s story on this blog, and not the story of some other victim of human rights abuses?”
    I’ll endeavour to be more clear in future. I hope you have a nice life too Frances, and hope that you can learn to practice what you preach about being non-partisan a little more convincingly in future.

  49. I’m a liberal and I wrote in protest of this abominable sentencing to death! Got all my liberal friends too as well! This is a feminist issue, Iran is very cruel to women, punishing them for being raped, and allowing the death penalty for girls as young as 9 years old, while boys cannot be executed until they’re 15. Which is bad too, but it all just reeks of gross sexism. Let’s hope our letters, from liberals and conservatives and everyone else, make a difference and something like this never happens again in Iran.

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