“Seriously, though, how screwed up must you be to post about how much your party supports the troops, but not know who your troops are? ‘Embarassing’ hardly begins to describe this [photo] error.”
Didn’t anybody at this Democratic Party website wonder what the funny red flower was that this soldier was wearing? And I agree that the stock photo of alleged “Democratic Supporters o’ the Troops” at the top of the page is even weirder. What’s with the fists and goofy faces?
steve d: Factually-challenged again. “They will be their own masters…that is fundamentalist shia law islamists.” Problem is the Pathans are all Sunni, as are the Tajiks and Uzbeks. The only Shia group in Afstan are the Hazara–thought to be descendents of the Mongol conquerors/conquerors of the country–and discriminated against severely by the Sunni groups. The Sunni Taliban were especially harsh in their treatment of the Hazara.
http://www.bookrags.com/Hazara
Mark
Ottawa
“Yes, but Harper extended the mission…”keep on driving on those bad tires boys-you’ll get new ones soon.””
Sigh….The liberals sent them there in green uniforms with crappy hardware, that’s not going to be upgraded overnight.
Name me an army that ever went to war equipped as well as it wanted to be. Even the mighty Wehrmacht in its battles before 1939 and in the early years of WWII, when it triumphed over all its opponents, regarded itself as woefully and even suicidally underequipped.
War is very much of a “come as you are” affair.
What a pile of BS by the lefties here.
1) Didn’t the Libs cancel the purchase of some helicopters that Mulroney ordered? Thought so!
“The Red Book highlighted cuts of $5.8 billion for what it described as Cold War military helicopters and $325 million in additional defence cuts. Mr Chrétien did keep his promise to scrap the helicopter purchase; he did not save the full amount he mentioned because various potential suppliers, quite rightly, insisted on being paid cancellation fees. In fact very large sums of money were paid out by our government as compensation for projects cancelled by Mr Chrétien. The Pearson Airport affair comes to mind. Returning to the Sea King helicopters, which have been described very accurately as “flying coffins,” they are now quite middle aged and occasionally drop out of the sky killing the odd service man or woman, but that doesn’t seem to be important because Mr Chrétien kept his promise not to replace them.”
2) Since the Afghan area started out as a Buddhist state and they are now Muslim tell you that they were conquered? Thought so!
http://www.afghan-web.com/history/chron/index.html
3) Since when is being in the Navy for five years equal to being an expert on anything about the armed forces? It doesn’t!
The left are starting up the lies once again. Will it ever end? Not in our lifetime!
Mad Mike and Dave:
Unfortunately, penny ALWAYS responds to my comments with insults and name calling. I would prefer to leave out personal attacks, but she had it coming for a long time.
odie441:
I didn’t say anything about being an expert…I was responding to penny’s comment that others are doing all the hard work while I’m not. Well, I did my five years (which is not the same as 25), but it’s still more that most, and more than many of the tough talkers around here.
…In CANADA!
LGF has the crowd photo up. Look way up, real closely: Taliban Jack-Olivia are behind the red maple tree in the background, waving a white flag. …-
How the Dems Support the Troops
Remember that photo at the top of The Democratic Party’s page, of a crowd of people cheering and pumping their fists? The theme is that only the Democrats really support the troops, and this is the page where they previously featured a faked image of a Canadian soldier.
Well, the irony doesn’t stop there, because that crowd photo doesn’t even show a real group of people genuinely supporting the US military. It’s another stock image. (Hat tip: Raymond.)
Steve:
“I am sure there are some Afghans who would love to benefit from a westernized Afghanistan. How many Afghans will be flying into Canada? A small connected group of perhaps affluent and or educated elite who would benefit handsomely. What most want is peace. As long as there are occupiers there will be no peace. It would be the same in Canada. Nobody wants occupiers.”
You’re right, nobody wants occupiers. What you fail to realize is that the Taliban are as much occupiers as we are, and that they are actually oppressive and destructive, whereas we provide freedoms and opportunities. Why is it ok for the Taliban to occupy Afghanistan, but not ok for us to assist the democratically elected government? Is it because they’re brown and we’re white? Because they’re home-grown tyrants? What sort of logic is that? Would YOU be happy if tomorrow some ultra-militant evangelist congregation took over Canada, and implemented religious law? That would be ok because they’re white and Canadian, right? And if, say, China were to send troops to help us elect a new government, rebuild our country, and keep the evangelists at bay, well, we’d ofcourse have to fight the Chinese because it’s much better to be oppressed by fellow Canadians than liberated by Chinese, right?
What it comes down to is that in the current conflict there are only two sides. Nationality is irrelevant in this war, just like it was to some extent irrelevant in WW2. You’re either on the side of freedom, or on the side of oppression. You either stand up and fight for the right of all people to chose how they live their lives, or you fight for the opportunity to oppress all people and dictate how they live their lives. There’s really no other options.
Iberia..more than a few folks( myself included..)that post on SDA have served significant time in the CAF.
One of the best ways to have an informed conversation about military affairs (and how they relate to the average Canadian) is to hold them with the people that have actually had the boots on the ground,or in your case,the paddles in the water.
I think we are blessed in abundance with such people here. Their commentary is insightful and provides context in which we all better understand events of a military nature that involve all of us.
John Lewis..are you specifically referring to the Spanish civil war when talking about battles fought by the Wehrmacht before 1939?
If so, i would think that the Condor Legion was intentionally under equipped as an expeditionary force, but still possessed some of the best weapons extant as well as developing inter-arm techniques used later in the second world war.
I suppose it is all a matter of perspective as well, as most of the world regarded the Germans to be fairly well armed and equipped by the standards of the day.In the aftermath of world war two this thinking was downgraded when it was revealed how much the German military relied on captured enemy material.
Kursk: As I’m sure you know the PzKpfw I (machine guns only; the only German tank confirmed as used in Spain) and II (20mm cannon) were the vast majority of German tanks in Poland, 1939, and France, 1940. They were distinctly inferior to most French and British tanks. The comemporary Czech tank used by the Wehrmacht, the PzKpfw 38(t), was superior to both.
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/germany/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tanks_in_World_War_II
Mark
Ottawa
First off I’d like to thank all the men and women who have served this counrty. There will always be people who will take from others that which is easily taken. eg:(France, Norway, etc)To all the doves that think running from trouble or negotiating with tyrants will save the day…Look at the history of the world. I find it reprehensible that people the likes of Jack Layton et al would give away what honourable men and women have died to pass on to us. As far as I’m concerned these lefties may as well be digging up the graves of people that have died for our freedom and taking a big shit on their remains.
Just my 2 cents.
Kursk, I have to jump into the fray as it were to tell you I don’t think iberia’s paddle is completely in the water. Rude is rude dude and he crossed the line with Penny. And yeah, I’ve done my time (23+) but have been fortunate not to have anyone shooting at me in anger (that I’m aware of).
It is a fact of life that most militaries never have everything they need to wage war. However, any army that the politicians send to the dance without a dress, cannot be faulted for not being prepared. Duct tape has been in my toolbox and most every Canadian serviceman’s for a long time.Until now the Canadian military has been in a long slow death spiral since an idiot by the name of Hellier.
Any history buff knows of the previous military build ups and cuts in Canadian history. The only problem is that now the “build up” takes only weeks, if that. That doesn’t leave much time to build the world’s third largest navy again.
They better support us we’re doing their bidding.