Reader Allan T. writes;
CUPE has been kind enough to tell us that the Liquor Control Board of Ontario carries more than 30 Israeli wines.
I shall be buying some on my next trip there.
Perhaps you could start a thread where your readers would tell us what other Israeli products are available in the stores.
Consider it started!
Well, as commented below, the Golani Wines, there are several varietals, are fabulous, World Class, and cheap at thrice the price. Several names, just look for Katzrin or Golan on the label as the geographic source. Try them all!
Otherwise,…let’s see, where to start? How ’bout a large pill like capsule, which when swallowed gives a video of one’s entire gastro-intestinal system, as opposed to the usual, shall we say, ‘invasive’ techniques of medical investigation? How ’bout parabolic solar collectors that reach 250C at Fort Nelson (Solel Industries)? Lycopene for prostate, prophylactic and therapeutic? Vaccine for Bird Flu? (very soon) Oh! A Centrino processor for your laptop? Elite Coffee w/cardamon (green package)? World’s best Avionics? Communications Satellite? Spy Satellite? Desert Eagle? (heh!)
Try this: –
http://www.israeliconsumerproducts.com/
With Search Engine by Category…including some nice sandals for our hot summers… đ
Covers all North America, by City and Product.
“Spending money on Israeli products helps Israel right where it counts”
Don’t construe this for one minute as meaning I have one iota of respect for the rabid leftist oligarchy that rules in Israel, nor Israel’s “so-called democracy” )not(. When that Gang of Law is tossed into retirement/private life, things will get better all round.
Till then, gotta love the People and their Courage – ’cause they’re gettin’ zero help from their lords and masters….
And The Land. So ya…Shop till ya drop! đ
I buy Canadian wherever possible. No politics, I just like to support the local guy.
Maybe the local guy carries some products from Israel.
I like to buy American products whenever I can.
Support the country that keeps us free.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Yep, its a Judeo-Christian conspiracy!!
That Jesus of Nazareth guy, undercutting the locals by turning water into wine again. And I hear HE’s flogging it, on the cheap, at wedding parties all over Cana!!
Apparently, the stuff tastes pretty good too; but then HEs fudging a bit as its aged ~2000 years old. Wait until we find that wine cellar HE hid in the desert.
Now we know what that 40 days of solitude was all about. HE was hiding all the GOOD stuff!!
Hey, when does the party start and where is my invite?
I don’t generally buy Israeli wine.
Not because it’s Israeli, but rather because here in the UK, with its marvellously varied and unrestricted privately-run wine marketing,* Israeli wines just don’t make a big impact and their availability and price doesn’t routinely stack up to other wines on the racks at the merchants and supermarkets.
HOWEVER, I will now make a point of seeking out Israeli wine on principle (something I rarely ever do: I buy wine for what’s in the bottle not to promote trade).
Still, “ALBertan Technophile” will be cheered to know that, being a true son of the Great White North, I serve both Niagara and Okanagan wines to guests whenever possible.
The Mission Hill Cab Sauv is a BIG HIT with the Brits.
* LCBO and other democratic provincial monopoly booze marketing offices take note.
Me too. Toby Keith CD’s and Oak furniture. Holidays too with my American made truck & trailer.
Check out your supermarket for Israeli produce like avacadoes or various nuts.
Definitely buy from Israel, as well as from any nation who fights jihad.
Perhaps it’s time to try imported matzo balls for the first time… I’m pretty certain “matzo” isn’t hebrew for “pig”… must refer to a kosher animal…
I’ll be looking for Israeli wine next time I visit the local hooch hut. I’ll raise my glass and yell “mazel tov!”, whatever it means…
Oh, as for the CUPE: Feck the damn CUPE!
Whenever possible I boycott all products from Ontario and Quebec.
Good thing you freaks are a tiny, dwindling minority or I might find this disturbing đ Silly goyim!!!
Israel is no friend of USA or Canada; indeed, its history of terrorism, ethnic cleansing, human trafficking and race-based policies means that those who support Israel support ethnic cleansing, terrorism, slavery, and racism. That is not opinion, that is a factually accurate statement based on Israeli research.
You’d be better on higer moral ground by supporting Burma, or Pakistan, or Zimbabwe, or any rogue state other than Israel.
All good suggestions, especially the “Feck the damn CUPE!”
And “pray for the peace of Jerusalem: ‘May they prosper who love you.'”
The UN Security Council has issued a number of resolutions in the past condemning Israeli terrorism. But unfortunately, all those resolutions remain just on paper. On Dec. 11, 1948, the UN Security Council issued a resolution on the status of Al-Quds (Jerusalem) which supported the right of the Palestinian refugees to return to their homeland in a way that would have led to lasting peace in Palestine.
Resolution No. 271/1996 condemned the Israeli practices with regard to Al-Aqsa Mosque and called for a halt to all operations that could change the status of Al-Quds. Resolution No. 452 issued on June 25, 1979 demanded that Israel stop all settlement activities in the occupied Arab lands, including Al-Quds. Many more resolutions followed, but all of them turned out to be just futile exercises.
Nonadherence by Israel to the UN Security Council resolutions amounts to a clear challenge to the international communityâs attempts to bring peace in Palestine. Flouting of the resolutions by Israel shows that Israel is intent on continuing the violence and mayhem it has unleashed in the occupied territories. Despite all this, the US administration and some EU countries are trying to force Hamas to recognize Israel without any reservations.
It could all be settled if Isreal moved back to the pre war borders.
But lets see all these years they have taken all access to shipping and for most a way to make a living. The two countries are still at war so how can you call one side the terrorest? They weren’t even the aggressor.
Why is it that isreal can ignore UN resolutions but others can’t?
“Bob”:
Oh dear. You need to see a doctor about your condition post haste! It would appear to be some form of anti-Israeli Tourette’s Syndrome.
“neutralsam” (ha ha – now there’s a laughable moniker):
You seem intent on conflating UN resolutions on Israeli settlement activities with terrorism. Whatever the pros and cons of such activities, they’re not terrorism.
Alas, most of the “violence and mayhem” in the “Occupied Territories” is of the home-grown Palestinian variety. And with Hamas now the government, expect much more of it soon. Indeed, there’s every reason to believe that violence and mayhem will be Palestinian-on-Palestinian.
No matter what you think of the situation, I doubt much would be settled by Israel moving back to “pre-war borders.” In electing Hamas, the Palestinians have simply confirmed that they are not content to co-exist with Israel at all; they want to eliminate it entirely.
“Why is it that isreal [sic] can ignore UN resolutions but others can’t?”
Oh come now, all kinds of countries ignore UN resolutions every day.
I happen to think Isreali women are particularily attractive. But, as I’m married (and happily) I guess I’ll stick to Isleali wine. Our grocery store also carries nice matzo ball soup from Isreal.
Hey, the Bob 9000 spoke some real human-looking words! And no bolding!
Still full of it though.
Loblaws has a small Jewish foods section. I’ve tried the potato pancakes and they’re pretty good and pretty easy to make.
Anyone wanting to see what the LCBO has, go to http://www.LCBO.com, select Product Search, then select Israel. You’ll find cabs, chardonnays, brandy, champers, triple sec, vodka, a chocolate liqueur, as well as those sacramental wines that come in at about an 18 on the sweetness scale. you’ll rot your teeth out!
I always found it annoying that there have been so, so many UN resolutions against Israel and almost NONE against the Palestinians…the UN is such a joke! There is no comparing Israel to the terrorist hotbed countries like Iran, Syria, etc. (but unfortunately it’s these rogue countries that get the louder voice in the UN, that tells you something right there about how corrupt the UN has become). The UN has long ago become totally ineffective in trying to attain any kind of conflict resolution in any part of the world, they should just close up shop! I find it absolutely astounding that “lefties” will side with the terrorists against the U.S. & Israel – which would you prefer to have as your neighbour??!!It’s a no brainer for me!!
Even though it isnât Israeli, the Shmaltz Brewing Company of California brews HeâBrew, The Chosen Beer.
The LCBO carried it back in 2003, and it was actually pretty good. The label is pretty funny too, enough to make the Bob 9000 discom-bob-ulate.
I’ve actually heard some really good things about Israeli wines — Tidings (“Canada’s Food and Wine Magazine”) had a recent article that was quite flattering.
Can’t say I’ve seen an “Israel” section at my local high-end booze shop, though…
Does Israel have an ice wine? If yes, it would be their first sweet offering.
It has been my long standing opinion that Israel provokes more than they endear.
You can catch more bees with honey than you can with a net.
Having worked in Israel I can say that Golan Heights wines are quite nice, and comparable to many California or Ontario wines.
One of those micro-uzis would sure be sweet!
(Just in case some twerp showed up at my front door and told me that “This is now MY property because god gave it to me…”)(And perhaps the Israli secret service could stop using fake CDN passports?)
“davie”:
What if our native people arrive on your property claiming their ancestral aboriginal rights?
“(And perhaps the Israli [sic] secret service could stop using fake CDN passports?)”
Dream on. Some of the biggest culprits for using fake Canadian passports aren’t Israeli, they’re er, Arabs.
We’ve got a ‘Jewish district’ here in Calgary. Many/most of the shops in Glenmore Landing carry Israeli products (plus kosher items from other places), as well as a few other shops (like the Oakridge Co-op) in the general area.
Bob – I’m afraid that due to birthrates alone, we are far from a ‘tiny, dwindling minority’. Conservatives tend to replace ourselves (and then some – I’ve got 5 kids so far!), while the enlightened left are more likely to have few/no children.
“It has been my long standing opinion that Israel provokes more than they [sic] endear.”
Unfortunately “Dr Wayne,” your statement also works if you substitute “Palestinians” for “Israel.”
My neighbor tried to serve me some VQA wine at Christmas time. I told him I wouldn’t rub that stuff on my dogs gonads; I have more respect for my dog than that. Ontario and Quebec can kiss my fuzzy butt. I suggest people buy products from nations or people that support your views and boycott the ones that don’t. If you support jihadist don’t buy from Israel and vise versa.
Shane,
You’re right about the dwindling (thankfully) left. Didn’t the Post do an article on that a couple of months ago? But Boob, er Bob, being a lefty and all, doesn’t know any facts. Hell, who needs facts when you’ve got feelings?
…don’t forget when you raise you glasses to say “Mazel Tov” (congratulations and good luck) or “eretz tov israel” (a good land to israel – i think).
You can catch more bees with honey than you can with a net.
Good point. Maybe the Arab nations (with Palestinian complicity) that continually invaded Israel after Europe ditched them in the desert with a couple of trucks in the late forties should have thought of that.
Wake up “Dr.” Wayne…the reason Muslims don’t like Israel is because they believe any non-muslim on “their” land ought to be Dhimmis. Even if the Israelis gave them everything they wanted the Muslims would still want their blood.
Yasser “No Sir” Arafat was from Egypt, as are many Palestinians (other Jordan, Syria, etc.).
Jews and Arabs have always lived in the area (about 1 million Jews left the surrounding Arab states when Israel declared statehood. They just arrived one day too I suppose, right Davie?), and there have been huge population influxes on both sides over the past 100 years.
A two state solution was proposed; the Jews accepted, the Arabs preferred extermination, and now suffer the consequences of their actions.
Any ideas on how to boycott CUPE?
a little o/t but what about the “American style” politics of the Liberals and the NDP?
The Liberal leadership run by Ignatieff showcases the Canadian left wing positions, advisors and leaders and their attachment to American lefties in Boston and NYC and SF.
The NDP and the unions and schools in BC have many American draft dodgers spouting endlessly about “Canadian Values”.
Is there a guide to “Who is Who in the Canadian Left”?
Boomer said:
“My neighbor tried to serve me some VQA wine at Christmas time. …. I suggest people buy products from nations or people that support your views and boycott the ones that don’t. If you support jihadist don’t buy from Israel and vise versa.”
Unfortunately that won’t work as the Islamic Research Foundation notes:
http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm
(begin quote)
Most Common Questions asked by Non-Muslims
PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL
Question:
Why is the consumption of alcohol prohibited in Islam?
Answer:
Alcohol has been the scourge of human society since time immemorial. It continues to cost countless human lives, and causes terrible misery to millions throughout the world. Alcohol is the root cause of several problems facing society. The statistics of soaring crime rates, increasing instances of mental illnesses and millions of broken homes throughout the world bear mute testimony to the destructive power of alcohol.
1. Prohibition of alcohol in the Qurâan
The Glorious Qurâan prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verse:
“O ye who believe!
Intoxicants and Gambling,
(Dedication of) stones,
And (divination by) arrows,
Are an Abomination â
Of Satanâs handiwork;
Eschew such (abomination),
That ye may prosper.”
[Al-Qurâan 5:90]
2. Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible
The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:
1.
“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.”
[Proverbs 20:1]
2.
“And be not drunk with wine.”
[Ephesians 5:18]
3. Alcohol inhibits the inhibitory centre
The human beings possess an inhibitory centre in their brains. This inhibitory centre prevents the person from doing things that he considers wrong. For instance a person does not normally use abusive language while addressing his parents or elders. If he has to answer the call of nature, his inhibitory centre will prevent him from doing so in public. Therefore he uses the toilet.
When a person consumes alcohol, the inhibitory centre itself is inhibited. That is precisely the reason that an inebriated person is often found to be indulging in behaviour that is completely uncharacteristic of him. For instance the intoxicated person is found to use abusive and foul language and does not realize his mistake even if he is addressing his parents. Many even urinate in their clothes. Neither do they talk nor walk properly. They even misbehave.
4. Cases of adultery, rape, incest and AIDS are found more among alcoholics
According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice (U.S. Department of Justice) in the year 1996 alone everyday on an average 2,713 rapes took place. The statistics tell us that the majority of the rapists, were intoxicated while committing the crime. The same is true in cases of molestation.
According to statistics, 8% of Americans commit incest i.e. one in every twelve to thirteen persons in America is involved in incest. Almost all the cases of incest are due to intoxication of one or both the persons involved.
One of the major factors associated with the spread of AIDS, the most dreaded disease, is alcoholism.
5. Every alcoholic was initially a social drinker
Many may argue in favour of liquor by calling themselves âsocial drinkersâ. They claim that they only have one or two pegs and they have self-control and so never get intoxicated. Investigations reveal that every alcoholic started as a social drinker. Not a single alcoholic or drunkard initially starts drinking with the intention of becoming an alcoholic or a drunkard. No social drinker can say that I have been having alcohol for several years and that I have so much self-control that I have never been intoxicated even a single time.
6. If a person is intoxicated just once and commits something shameful, it will remain with him for a lifetime.
Suppose a âsocial drinkerâ loses his self-control just once. In a state of intoxication he commits rape or incest. Even if the act is later regretted, a normal human being is likely to carry the guilt throughout his life. Both the perpetrator and the victim are irreparably and irreversibly damaged.
7. Alcohol is prohibited in the Hadith
The Prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
1.
In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3371.
“Alcohol is the mother of all evils and it is the most shameful of evils.”
2.
In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3392
“Anything which intoxicates in a large quantity, is prohibited even in a small quantity.”
Thus there is no excuse for a nip or a tot.
3.
Not only those who drink alcohol are cursed but also those who deal with them directly or indirectly are cursed by Allah.
According to Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3380.
It was reported by Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
“Godâs curse falls on ten groups of people who deal with alcohol. The one who distills it, the one for whom it has been distilled, the one who drinks it, the one who transports it, the one to who it has been brought, the one whom serves it, the one who sells it, the one who utilizes money from it, the one who buys it and the one who buys it for someone else.”
….
ALCOHOLISM IS NOT A DISEASE â IT IS SATANâS HANDIWORK
Allah (swt) in His Infinite Wisdom has warned us against this snare of Satan. Islam is called the “Deen-ul-Fitrah” or the natural religion of Man. All its injunctions are aimed at preserving the natural state of man. Alcohol is a deviation from this natural state, for the individual as well as for society. It degrades man to a level below that of the beasts he claims to be superior to. Hence the consumption of alcohol is prohibited in Islam.
(end quote)
And this truly puzzles me, why is the woman in the picture below carrying the sign God Bless Hitler as he was known to frequent beer halls; in particular the infamous “Beerhall Putsch”.
BTW, to all those revisionist extreme Muslims who think that Hitler was on to something, maybe they can explain this:
Hitler was a teatotaller, ie consumed no alchohol.
The Muslim faith proscribes alchohol.
If Hitler was such a great guy, what the HELL was a teatotaller doing launching a political revolution in a BEERHALL!?!
No historian I know, has adequately explained this political contradiction, much less even posed the question.
Someone has to explain to me why this Muslim woman is carrying a placard saying “GOD BLESS HITLER”; given that Hitler was known to hang around beer halls.
http://www.n-tv.de/634520.html
Given Hitler’s BEERHALL PUTSCH, it would have to be proof positive, in Muslim circles, that Hitler was corrupt and not worthy of emulating.
My own theory on this, is that the teatotaller Hitler was in a drunken stupor, by letting beer pass his lips. Thus he was drunkenly thinking about the Barvarian Purity Law of 1516, in respect of beer; and cruelly and stupidly applied it to RACES.
Like Ahmadinejad said we should set up a commission to investigate the BEERHALL theory of RACES!?!!?!?! in his recent Der Spiegel interview
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,418660,00.html
So as Daimnation said
http://www.damianpenny.com/
‘Hitler the REAL STORY: “What Ale’d him.”‘
Thus, in conclusion to correct Boomer’s error,
no alchohol from Adolf loving jihadists is available for purchase.
Why is it that isreal can ignore UN resolutions but others can’t?
Ha ha ha, like Saddam?
Go amuse yourself and look for Israel on an Arab map and see if they want peace.
Bob, you really need to have a serious chat with your doctor.
At one time Unions where needed. They still may be, but they need a complete house cleaning. CUPE is the worst. Run by Communists at times & the NDP mostly. They have no give, & would rather see there workers on the EI line than have a job if ther ego’s are not assuged.
The members are not allowed a say where the political donation portion of there dues goes. Not so other Unions. Every time there is a raise 25% of it ends up in there pockets . Union dues & charity stealing. I have never gotten more than a 3 % increase & went 8 years without a pay raise. So much for being an effective union.
No matter what job you do money is deducted from a check in the form of union dues , charity dues, even if one does not want to belong. Its manditory. A very good bellweather of how undemocratic this group of left -lib liberanos are. Not surprising there heads of it are all anti smoking fanatics.
Must be nice to be President for life. Elections are almost unknown with this Union. Considering its ideology. Thats no shock.
It does nothing for labor. Most of its ire is directed towards making rich teachers even ricvher. Same goes for nurses. Workers are just low lifes in there lexicon.
Speaking of workers. When I was a provisional worker , they would not even talk to me on the phone. Nor even look at any REAL injustice’s. PC all the way to extreams.
I might add here that our department has NEVER striked, & has never felt it would do any good. Why loose money for the Union elite?
The worst part is managment in the form of team leaders have taken it over completley. So where is the division of powers?
More important to Albertans is that ALL our dues go to Eastern Canada for fat obsene wages for Eastern nut causes. For Teachers & nurses. Labor has been denegrated by the very people charged with there protection. Its why Albertans hate Unions. To us there just another form of Eastern domination.
Even though I belong to a union, I think it’s fat, entitled, and unproductive and, like Revnant Dream says, works mostly for the elite at the top who are anything but democratic.
Once unions helped workers negotiate with unfair owners and management; now, unions are the management, it seems, and work principally for themselves, using members’ dues for every cause under the sun THAT THEY CHOOSE. So, a whole whack of union dues are undemocratically collected and allotted, and by people who talk a good line about “the people”, equity, fairness, democracy, etc., ad nauseum. In other words, unions are inordinantly full of NDPers and left-libs.
How ironic. And what a crock.
“It could all be settled if Isreal moved back to the pre war borders.”
Two items. First, the Arab nations (and quasi-states) are publically committed to the annihilation of Israel. Has nothing to do with land and borders.
Secondly, under international law the land belongs to Israel. When attacked by a foreign power, all land that has been lost by the ATTACKER becomes the property of the DEFENDING state. Israel was attacked by Egypt and their Muslim state supporters in 1967 and again in the 70’s. They took a chance, believing they would be able to eliminate Israel and thus take command of Israeli land.
The reverse happened and Israel is entitled to keep the land they won. I think they’re pretty decent in agreeing to accede Gaza and the West Bank to the Palestinians, because it will do nothing to change the ‘death cult’ of that Islamic based society.
Reason #4,182 why invading Iraq was a retarded idea, from JPost, May 18th:
“The US-backed Iraqi government sent an official representative to this week’s meeting of the Arab League Boycott Office in Damascus, The Jerusalem Post has learned, prompting criticism from members of Congress and the Bush administration.
Liaison officers from 14 countries met for four days this week to discuss ways of intensifying the Arab embargo against Israel. Among those taking part were delegates from several ostensible US allies, such as Iraq, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.”
The Non-Aligned Movement on the legality aand rationale of a proposed boycott, from 2004:
“Whether it is the UN General Assembly or the Non-Aligned Movement, resolutions condemning Israel are one thing, implementation is quite another. None the less, many believe international boycott is an idea whose time has come.
In July the International Court of Justice, in a landmark ruling, declared the West Bank separation barrier illegal and urged Israel to demolish the structure as well as pay compensation to Palestinians affected by its construction.
This decision of the UN’s top court, although non-binding, cleared the decks for sanctions in the event of non-compliance by the Israel Government.
It was on the basis of this World Court ruling that the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) voted last month for a partial boycott of Israel, asking the 115 member-nations to ban Israeli settlers from visiting their countries and to boycott companies that work on the separation barrier.”
In the States it’s actually illegal to boycott a nation. Gee, that’s not totalitarian đ From the BBC:
“US laws ban the participation by US nationals and companies in unsanctioned foreign government trade boycotts, especially the Arab League’s boycott of Israel.
The Department of Commerce has issued more than $26m (ÂŁ16.7m) in fines and turned down export licences to those found violating the law.”
Hey Revnant Dream and new kid on the block:
If you’re not happy with the way your union operates then go to the meetings and get involved.
Or, if all of your coworkers are unhappy with the union then start a campaign to decertify.
Remember, Plato once said: âThe price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.â
Wow Bob, the non-aligned movement is fighting against Saudi Arabia’s anti-terrorist separation barrier on the Yemen border?! Fantastic, finally someone is listening to the desperate pleas of the long oppressed Wayilah and Yam peoples who will be cut off from their land by this apartheid wall.
Oh wait, no, that’s not the separation wall they’re talking about, it’s only the one that’s being built by Jews that they have issues with.
But then what can you expect from a movement that is composed of genuine apartheid states like the aforementioned Saudi Arabia plus Morocco, Iran and the Sudan.
Your selective outrage is – as your kind is wont to say – “problematic”.
You leftists sound more like Der StĂźrmer every day.
PS – I’m not going to go out and specifically buy anything from Israel, not while I still have all this Lego and havarti sitting around.
Bob, thanks for posting the information above. It is good to see that the US government is taking a principled stand on supporting Israel’s right to self determination. I agree that there is too much hypocricy on the part of Arab nations who condemn Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians and at the same time call for the destruction of Israel. The Arab nations are merely using the Palestinians as pawns.
To show my support for the Israelis I went out and purchased a bottle of Israeli wine. First time ever for me! I’ll let you know how it was and I will have a drink to your health.
You can try Naot Shoes, although they can be very expensive. They feel great though. I got a pair for 60% off at a bankruptcy sale.
The history of these events is wellâunderstood. When political Zionism began in earnest in the late 19th century, there were only about 15,000 Jews in Palestine. In 1893, for example, the Arabs comprised roughly 95 percent of the population, and though under Ottoman control, they had been in continuous possession of this territory for 1300 years. Even when Israel was founded, Jews were only about 35 percent of Palestineâs population and owned 7 percent of the land.
The mainstream Zionist leadership was not interested in establishing a biânational state or accepting a permanent partition of Palestine. The Zionist leadership was sometimes willing to accept partition as a first step, but this was a tactical maneuver and not their real objective. As David BenâGurion put it in the late 1930s, âAfter the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.â
To achieve this goal, the Zionists had to expel large numbers of Arabs from the territory that would eventually become Israel. There was simply no other way to accomplish their objective. BenâGurion saw the problem clearly, writing in 1941 that âit is impossible to imagine general evacuation [of the Arab population] without compulsion, and brutal compulsion.â Or as Israeli historian Benny Morris puts it, âthe idea of transfer is as old as modern Zionism and has accompanied its evolution and praxis during the past century.â
This opportunity came in 1947â48, when Jewish forces drove up to 700,000 Palestinians into exile. Israeli officials have long claimed that the Arabs fled because their leaders told them to, but careful scholarship (much of it by Israeli historians like Morris) have demolished this myth. In fact, most Arab leaders urged the Palestinian population to stay home, but fear of violent death at the hands of Zionist forces led most of them to flee. After the war, Israel barred the return of the Palestinian exiles.
Iberia: I couldn’t agree more with “The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
I’ve don’t have an apathetic bone in my body. Just ask my family and friends who, at times, probably wish I did.
Unions don’t take kindly to being messed with. I’ve tried. I’ve contributed, or tried to contribute, articles to the union’s magazine, which are critical of their point of view to no avail. The reason they gave? My articles were poorly written.
There may have been some legitimate reasons for not publishing them. They never told me what they were, however, though it was obvious that my rebuttals were not what they wanted to hear, even though they were well documented. What was clear to me was that my not writing well was simply a smokescreen behind which the union personnel decided to hide.
Given that they would have used union resources if I had brought any grievance against them, and that I would have had to use my own resources, I simply told them how unfounded their reasons were and vowed never to say a nice word about unions again.
Damn it Hans, that last post was enough to drive me to drink đ
Never tried Israeli wines but after this is over I think I’ll try some out. Say, if it doesn’t normally freeze in Israel then how are they going to make an ice wine???
Bob,
I guess you pretty much think that it is all the Jews fault. If they had only just died quietly. Zionists = Jews with guns. I know, how dare they try to be sovereign in their own land again – they should just remain good dhimmis. How dare they try to make a Jewish state.
Why did the UN have to change the definition of Arab “refugee” to anyone who had lived there for 2 years – hmmm. You like Benny Morris, probably you admire the work of Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein – and well how can anyone say that they are anti-semites when they themselves are Jews?
There are so many Jews who wave the flag of Palestinian nationalism (I know plenty myself). How many Arabs/Muslims are there who stand up for the rights of Jews to live in their homeland?
Bob pronounces…..
“The history of these events is wellâunderstood.”
If you’re speaking of your own knowledge Bob, then there’s a slight typo.
You left the “mis” between “well” and “understood”
I don’t about you all, but I’m in the mood for some Danish cheese and Israeli wine! Skol and down the hatch.
Couldn’t find any Israeli wine in Regina. As for other products, Costco and I think Canadian Tire carry Israeli garden sheds….a quality product. I bought one last year.
Texas Canuck said: “Say, if it doesn’t normally freeze in Israel then how are they going to make an ice wine???”
Well given the political sparks keep flying, I would say HELL is not about to freeze over, so I would invest in a Refrigerator. Good for Danish cheese as well.
Cheers!