Russia’s Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by 5 a.m. (0300 GMT) on Tuesday or face a military assault, Interfax news agency quoted a source in the Ukrainian Defence Ministry as saying.
(If you Google “current GMT” it will show up in large bold print at the top of the page.)
From Ukraine Live at the Telegraph, which is a good source for updates:
“(Putin) smiled as he walked towards the command centre where he watched tanks, barely visible in thick fog, and listened to artillery fire. It is the first sighting of Putin in several days.”
Russia has said China is largely “in agreement” over Ukraine, after other world powers condemned Moscow for sending troops into the country.
Telegraph editorial: It is time for the West to stand up to Putin.
Feel free to add your own links/updates and comments as the situation unfolds.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/03/david-stockman/none-of-your-damn-business-obama/
Some history of the Crimea.
Putin had better watch himself Barry O just might show up in his Mom Jeans and draw another line in the Ukraine sand.
Why did Obama whisper to Putin that he’d have more leeway after the
election? I’m still trying to figure out what they were conniving about.
Possibly something quite innocuous.
Bottom line is that the Ukraine is in the Soviet sphere. No Russian government will expose themselves to another invader like Hitler again. Any change to that would take long term planning which the west has had since the Soviet collapse decades ago. They did not do their homework so why should North Americans get their jammies in a knot? The Russians supply the Euros with energy and cannot play hardball with them. As if the idea of hardball exists in their languages. As a Canadian I really do not have a lot of interest in this situation other than humanitarian. In actual fact it reinforces Canada’s ‘safe oil’ concept.
Perhaps post Sochi the western world can toss the CBC warm and fuzzies vinnettes into the garbage can and start viewing the world in a more realistic way. The Euros can start developing a realistic military position towards the Russians. (Just in case)
My question has always been whether the Euros would send help if the Russians or Americans seized Canada’s Artic lands? I think not.
Pity that there are no USAF bases in Iraq to stage F22s out of or any carrier groups in the Black Sea. Without the presence of military force why would Putin care what Obama says?
This has come about at the worst possible time for our Community-Organizer-In-Chief.
March Madness, aka the NCAA basketball playoffs, start in less than 2 weeks.
https://twitter.com/pwaldieGLOBE/status/440556860782161920/photo/1
Commander of #Ukraine military base surrounded by Russians
announces his troops won’t leave. pic.twitter.com/FsDxrjsyEp
I’m guessing the Ukrainians and allies, will be dusting off some of Erich von Manstein’s calculations of the Crimea for ‘study’…a text I reread last summer. I’m sure at the general staff level some war gaming scenarios will be entertained.
No doubt some ‘interesting discussions’ will be taking place should the russified ‘Sudetenland Principle’ prevail and by implication let stand.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
For a historical recap on the Crimea:
http://www.britishbattles.com/crimean-war/balaclava.htm
The Battle of Balaclava
The Charge of the Light Brigade, the Charge of the Heavy Brigade and the Thin Red Line
War: Crimean War
Date: 25th October 1854
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_TjE_EYYE4#aid=P8gKqIgq3Gw
Battlefield S6/E1 – The Battle For The Crimea
The Crimea Campaign was an eight-month long campaign by Axis forces to conquer the Crimea peninsula, and was the scene of some of the bloodiest battles on the Eastern Front during World War II. The German, Romanian, and defending Soviet troops suffered heavy casualties as the Axis forces tried to advance through the Isthmus of Perekop linking the Crimean peninsula to the mainland at Perekop, from summer of 1941 through to the first half of 1942.
We spoke with Crimeans today on our home telephone, here’s their position… it was already “The Crimean Autonomous Republic” and they did not appreciate the taxation and regulation by the gangsters in power in Kiev, who were the legitimate government, which has been ousted in a violent coup and is in exile. The new gangsters in power, whoever they are, are not legitimate, the Crimean Autonomous Republic is in a legitimate process of separating to be an independent state.
Why not put out more rainbow flags all across Canada?
That’ll sure show Putin we mean business!
Putin has won this round as I’m sure the world recognizes. Russian troops are sitting pretty in the Crimea with no identification on their camo uniforms. The Ukrainian soldiers surrounded by Russians and locked in the base looked stunned and pathetic in photos seen the last couple days.
Then,to add insult to injury,the new Ukrainian naval commander defects to the Russians the day after he’s put in command.
We commenters here at SDA have been anticipating this for years,ever since 2008, coincidentally.
Ukraine is in the Russian sphere of influence,the Russians have their major naval base in Crimea,Putin installed a puppet government which was booted out by rebels of questionable virtue and loyalties.
It’s been like watching another real-life soap opera the last few months and it’s reached it’s inevitable conclusion: JR (the USA) is dead,and Vladimir can have his way in Europe.
Baird has gone to Ukraine,and the brilliant Canadian-Ukrainian Liberal MP, Chrystia Freeland has gone over there as well, to represent the Trudeau government-in -waiting.
John Kerry just condemned the last Russian takeover of a Ukrainian city, calling it “incredibly aggressive”! That’s with an exclamation point!
Obama MAY accelerate his rhetoric and bypass “unacceptable” and go straight to “completely unacceptable”.
And in Putin’s boots,I’d take whatever Russia needs at this point,because no one is about to stop them.
LOL. Don’t worry; Obama is planning another vacuous speech that would make a Glee fan blush and has already dispatched Biden to Moscow with the message that Obama wants to have a beer with him.
Israel is watching this very closely. What a truly pathetic man. If Obama was an actor there would be no difference. I hope this little incident doesn’t get in the way of his midterm elections.
Here’s a delightful headline:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ca3e8250-a067-11e3-8557-00144feab7de.html#axzz2uvwUSpNW
“Putin cooks up Obama’s ‘chicken Kiev’ moment”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-demands-2-ukrainian-warships-surrender-1.2557443
Russia issued an ultimatum Monday, demanding that the crew of two Ukrainian warships in Crimea immediately surrender or be stormed and seized, a Ukrainian military spokesman said.
Four Russian navy ships in Sevastopol harbour were blocking the Ukrainian anti-submarine warship Ternopil and the command ship Slavutych from leaving the dock, waiting for their commanders’ responses, spokesman Maksim Prauta said.
Vladimir Anikin, a Russian defence ministry spokesman in Moscow, dismissed the report of a Russian ultimatum as nonsense but refused to elaborate.
Yep, “Putin up with a lot of nonsense”
Oh and about that Budapest Memorandum…about not violating territorial integrity…yeah that had all the durability of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Agression Pact didn’t it?
If we have learned anything…it is that we have learned nothing.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Very true. I find it funny the O-dumber is trying to pick a fight with Israel over the Pals.
Putin doesn’t have the fire power RUSSIA once had, it’s old, tired and small. Yet no-one has the nerve to tell him to back down.
I’ll say one thing for Putin. he sees how O-dumber is rudderless & powerless.
Blood in the water.
One obvious solution: Russia buys Crimea from the Ukraine. Russia pays off the Ukraine’s foreign debt (which of course no-one expected to recoup), and in exchange Ukraine lets Crimea go without objections. Of course it’s a forced sale, and pricey, but it’s cheaper than war, or even long-term diplomatic tensions.
The smartest president ever doesn’t study history because it’s too hard. Good podcast at the link.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/03/foreign-policy-analyst-tells-stigall-president-obama-does-not-pay-attention-to-history-because-its-too-hard/
Turzanski, the John Templeton Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and Political Science Professor at LaSalle University, said, “This President does not pay attention to history, because it’s too hard, quite frankly. It stands in the face of his worldview, which is largely ethnocentric; it’s provincial, and it’s driven by the belief that the United Nations and multi-national organizations are the vehicle by which we will do things. Vladimir Putin has shown time and time again that cold hearted, historically-rooted geopolitics is how the world works.
Honestly I new nothing about this but it sound like agreat time to down size our troops
Does anyone remember the whispering at the mikes when they thought they where off
Precisely…at this point the salient rejoinder would be:
“CRIMEA A RIVER”
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Obama is Putin’s trained poodle with a repertoire of two tricks. For aggressive foreign dictators, he barks twice, then rolls over and plays dead. For industrious American taxpayers, he attacks like a ravenous hyena.
I’ve put money behind my expectation that Putin will succeed in de facto annexation of Crimea. I bought Russian stocks this morning, though less than 2% of my portfolio.
It’s the height of irony that the U.S. apparently has a problem with a superpower invading a country to impose its will in the midst of a civil war.
Breaking news: Ukrainian nationalist asks Chechen jihadist to act against Russia.
Not sure how true that is (on the RT network), but who here is in favour of allying themselves with jihadists? Hands up.
Heh, well then I guess you’ve earned your moniker!
Oh yeah! It’s really time for the fag-loving, woman-worshiping, anti-white West to “stand up” to Putin lol. Send in ol’ Dixie to die for gay marriage and HR departments!
And next on Sun News! More j*wish nationalism paid for – both in money and in blood – by the hated goyim! But only after we get Michael Coren and Ezra Levant telling us to embrace pluralism in white countries. Being Chosen can be awfully hard work.
If anything is worse than John Kerry it is the quacking of the limey eloi in http://www.telegraph.co.uk. Now
standing up to Putin is a good idea – he’s been having things all his own way lately, and his latest success
may give him ideas for further conquests which might actually provoke a response. Doing it is another
matter.
As for the Crimea, it is semi-independent anyway. Russian access to the Mediterranean has been a major
objective of Russian policy since the time of Peter the Great. It may have been one of the major causes of
the First World War (see “Russian Origins of the First World War” (which is controverted by some)).
The Russian naval base in Syria is undoubtedly a reason for Russian support of Bashir Assad.
So Russia will fight and fight hard for Sevastopol etc. If Vladimir Putin were to be soft on this he would be
replaced. The upper house of the Russian parliament has authorized him to go farther than he already has.
Just an easy question why cant we ethis live on our tv screens we should all be asking this
Attacking the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet is not for the fainthearted, even if the fainthearted
do have F-22s.
And do take a look at a map of the Black Sea. The US Navy is not about to bring a carrier task force into so
land-locked a body of water (when it comes down to F-22s against shore-to-ship missiles, and plenty of them,
who do you bet on?).
If the filth in Washington wishes to demonstrate its cojones perhaps liberation of North Korea
would be a good place to start?
Earlier today I emailed the Prime Minister of Canada my support, as shown below the dotted line.
J.
…………………………………………………………………………………………….
Attention Prime Minister Stephen Harper,
Sir, I urge you to continue to stand firm for CANADA and with the Ukrainian people against the Communist Russians and the KGB trained Putin!
Do not trust OBAMA, Go with Merkel of Germany and Cameron with the Brits, they know Russian treachery too well !
And do not trust OBAMA he is full of *hi* and an egotistical narcissist totally enthralled by his own voice and certainly no friend of Conservative prime Minister of Canada!
I AM
with you!
Joseph (Joe) Molnar
Woodstock, Ontario, Canada
If I was Ukrainian I would back out of Crimea, but that’s just me.
At least they can count on Obamba, to top yesterday’s golf score with todays.
“And next on Sun News! More j*wish nationalism paid for – both in money and in blood – by the hated goyim! But only after we get Michael Coren and Ezra Levant telling us to embrace pluralism in white countries. Being Chosen can be awfully hard work.”
Gee, so it’s really all about those pesky Jews again, eh?
Oh brother.
One thing I learned while earning my liberal-arts degree in History, Poli-Sci, and Slavic Studies (and using it to become a commissioned Officer in the Canadian Army), is that you must NEVER, NEVER, NEVER TRUST THE RUSSIANS! Whether it is politics, military, sports, economics, business, whatever…NEVER TRUST THE RUSSIANS!!
The West can strut, splutter and stutter all it wants as far as sanctions are concerned Russia has the upper hand in this chess game and Putin knows this. Economic sanctions imposed by the West against Russia will see an immediate curtailment of gas and power to Eastern Europe and the USA is incapable of organizing a “Berlin Airlift” on the scale that would be required. Energy disruption in Eastern Europe will have a far reaching effect on all of Europe and watch the ‘Greenies’ start screaming when they are put on energy rations. The present generation in Europe has neither the will, fortitude nor the backbone to repeat what the their grandparents did!
Not sure if you’re aware that a couple of billionaire oligarchs have been named governors of Ukrainian provinces.
Follow the money. I’m still unsure who these guys are and who’s the real power behind the movement, but at least one would like to get Chechen jihadists to create a distraction.
Also, the remaining $12 billion of the $15 billion in assistance the Ukraine was getting from Russia has now been suspended.
How soon will the EU step in to top up some of the $70 billion stolen from the Ukrainian people since independence? I’m guessing not too soon.
Ukrainian troop stationed in Crimea has now pledged allegiance to Crimea, which was ceded by Khruschev in 1954, a year after Stalin’s death.
A peace offering by Khruschev that was never ratified by the Soviets at the time? Does the new crew want to continue to accept the gift from the Soviets, or are they sincere that they are independent?
Plenty of difficult questions. The toothless western world and the Canadian government can only bluster, like Baird did.
When push comes to shove, it’ll be interesting to see who the Ukrainian people side with in the May elections once they find out who’s behind it all.
Remember when everyone wanted China out of Tibet?
Does anyone not understand why China’s territorial ambitions reach as far as they do? and their support this morning for Russia? and how they’ve always supported the idea of these topics being “”internal matters”
Tomorrow, Secretary of State Kerry will be in Kiev, I fully expect Putin to throw more at Kerry than the current affirmative action administration of the USA knows what to do with.
B. Hussien is out of his depth on most topics, on this, he’s going to be giving a clinic on idiocy.
We’re about to get yet another lesson on how reducing the west’s strength leads to losses without even fighting.
“RT” is the same as Pravda. If you believe it, you deserve to be duped.
Putin has an objective…how far it goes nobody in the west knows. Putin will not stop until he achieves his objectives, unless someone throws an explosive wall up in front of him.
Slight diversion but related: Gee, Obama, too bad about your (lack of) space program. How are you going to get to the ISS now? /sarc off
I feel like this is something of an admission of defeat by Putin, as if they can’t have a non Russophile in Ukraine without invading. A display of insecurity mediated by the fact that Crimea is Russian anyways by the sounds of it. The Russians never get tired of treating their neighbors like enemies and they’ll never have a shortage of unfriendly neighbors as a result.
It seems to be part of the narrative though, claiming that the Ukrainian agitators are the grandchildren of Nazis (Waffen SS) and understanding the ties the Nazis and the Grand Mufti of Jersusalem had with their totalitarian worldview.
I’m reserving judgement. Until I actually see some kind of proof, I’m filing it under clever propoganda.
For now, I’m remaining open-minded and trying to listen to both sides. At least RT provides a different perspective than the North American networks, which are totally ignorant of the region’s history.
The Crimea was just asking for it*, being a semi-autonomous slut and all.
Just look at the way she was dressed! Just begging to get jumped by the Russian bear.
*except for, you know, actually have her semi-autonomous leaders ASK for Russia military occupation
And NO, what was going on in Ukraine wasn’t a civil war contrary to what some of the Russian agents here are suggesting.
Why would Putin every worry about Obamba?
He knows where he was really born.
The fascist slur is just a throw away line for people who aren’t paying attention. The government in Kiev isn’t stupid enough to start reprinting
backcopies of “Der Stuermer”, that is just russophile rubbish for the masses; something the old Pravda used to generate. 🙂
Next they’ll be harking back to the bogeyman of Stalingrad, and stringing up the Georgian Saakashvili ‘by the balls’ in the town square. That is Putin’s method of ‘diplomacy’.
Hitler’s panzers are long gone, and so are some of the old Soviet bloc tank repair facilities…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572149/Stunning-images-huge-abandoned-tank-graveyard-Ukraine-machines-come-retirement-tensions-Russia-continue-escalate.html
Perhaps they should have held on to them: Hundreds of rusting tanks abandoned in secret Ukrainian depot unveiled as Russia’s armoured vehicles line its streets
There are more than 400 abandoned tanks at the plant in a secret, heavily guarded depot in the town of Kharkiv
The depot is in the Slobozhanshchyna region of eastern Ukraine – just 20 miles from the border with Russia
Photographer Pavel Itkin, 18, was able to sneak into the heavily monitored site without being spotted by guards
He spent two hours walking around the barely-used repair centre taking photographs of old tanks and engines
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
I should think China is enjoying the Russian demonstration of the U.S.A.’s impotence, and is enjoying watching the Japanese, S.Koreans, Taiwanese seeing it, too.
Get Justin Trudeau to negotiate a replay of the Olympic games and allow the Ruskies to win at hockey.
That’ll calm them down.
Bocanut
“…something of an admission of defeat by Putin…”
Can’t wait to see what Putin claiming a victory looks.
“I feel like this is something of an admission of defeat by Putin…”
I’m curious as to what you think Putin claiming a victory will look like.
You can do what we say, or we can shoot you. Your choice.
Stay classy Salt.
Obambam is Putin’s intern… kneepads and all.
Never trust the Americans.
The most important thing to come out of this incident is that the world can clearly see what an ineffective leader the Yanks elected as POTUS… twice.
What invasion ? Russians are hearing that it’s all tea, sandwiches and music.
http://theweek.com/article/index/257234/speedreads-russian-news-site-the-invasion-of-ukraine-is-all-tea-sandwiches-music