24 Replies to “They’ll Work Just Fine in Canada”

  3. Pssst….don’t tell anyone, but the companies that produce these EV buses….they are starting to fail…hard and fast. Proterra (the primary EV bus company providing for the US out of Burlingam, CA) just filed for chapter 11. This is after getting a healthy subsidiary from the State of California, a Federal Grant…and a good sized chunk of the Covid Give-a-way Bonanza of Cash. Just a year ago they had hundreds of millions in the bank. Last month they filed for Chapter 11.

    This is NOT an outlier. Watch them fall. It’s coming.

    1. Yes, I have also read that Solaris (the bus provider) has filed for bankruptcy. And this is after Vice President Harris praised them. Perhaps her gift is the gift of bankruptcy to whichever endeavour she promotes.

    1. Joe…-12C eh…?? LMAO.!!
      For us Albertans..? that’s a T-Shirt n hoody kinda day.

      I’m loving every report I read about the Colossal Pile of BS that Electric Vehicles are and will ALWAYS be.

  5. And wait until there isn’t enough electricity to run the LRTs. There will be a lot of people walking and industry will collapse. Yes, the goal is becoming clearer – they want total and utter destruction and chaos and they don’t care what happens after that.

    1. I was curious about how these companies were going to get around the fraud of selling a vehicle that can’t be charged due to an inadequate electrical grid. So, I called up an engineer friend of mine and he thinks he knows what’s going to happen once enough people have EV’s. He thinks they are going to limit your use of them and make “two way chargers” standard. What that means is when you aren’t using your vehicle you will be obligated to give back your charge to limit the number of brown outs. Some of the more liberal jurisdictions are already changing out the charging stations to be two-way units.

      I told him that sounded far fetched. He reminded me that the US has already done this before to great success. Only it was done with ICE’s . Of course, he was referring to the gas ration stamps back during WW2. He, also, pointed out that it was done under Executive Order as a emergency necessity relative to the war, but the same could be used to reflect the “emergency” of Climate Change. I told him I didn’t think someone would be willing to wait around for 45 minutes charging up their vehicle only to give some of that back out of the goodness of their hearts so someone could run their air conditioner down in San Diego. He laughed at me (deservedly). He said 1. It won’t be voluntary if they do it. 2. What makes you think personal air conditioners will be allowed down the road.

      I wish I hadn’t called my friend.

      1. Comrade, in the glorious Electric Vehicle Future, you will be allotted 3.65 KWh per day to charge your electric vehicle, at a specific time of day, sometime between midnight and 6 AM. During this time, no other electric loads will be permitted on the grid, and you cannot save your allotment over multiple days…

        1. The captive concept had eluded me for some reason. That’s a primary aspect of EV’s I hadn’t given much thought to. With ICE’s there was, at least, the facade of a free market concept where the control of “fuel” was not absolute. Sure, the government can control regulations, and transportation matters to some extent, but as long as private industry had the refined fuel to sell, it was available.

          With, electricity, however that’s not the case. They can peak in and see what you’re using. They can “cut off the spirket” entirely if they so desire. They can, as you say, provided limited product based on a time reference. It’s 100% absolute control.

          Sometimes it’s hard to grasp these efforts in their entirety because it hard to understand the absolute control these people wish to acquire. It’s perverted.

  6. Actually Oslo, Helsinki, and Stockholm have very similar climate to here in southern ONT. So if those buses crap out, it just shows how poorly they perform in cold weather. Time for diesel power.

    1. I was going to advise, tongue in cheek, that of course they failed in Oslo because it’s too close to ocean altitude and the extra gravity makes them too heavy to be effective. Moronto, on the other hand, being around 100m above sea level should immediately switch over their entire fleet. And because of the high capital cost of doing that, they can buy the chargers next year.

  7. Edmonton bought a fleet of busses from Proterra and half of them are inoperable. Difficulties charging them and a lack of spare parts. With Proterra filing for Chapter 11, I don’t expect things to improve. And not to be outdone, Calgary has a bunch of climate-saving buses on order.

  8. What’s wrong with good old trolley buses? Been riding them for the last 70 years. Why waste money on battery busses??

    1. right . its not the electricity , its the batteries . remember the old days of storing batteries in the freezer as a kid , they dont drain. its a chemical reaction stopped.

  9. I predicted this long ago. I am sure I am not alone in that.

    Batteries are good for kid’s toys and moms vibrator … Busses need gas. They also must heat the interior … that would take a lot of power.

    All the crap that is going to go down as we slowly begine to realized or admit that EVs are not the answer … perhaps in California but not in Timmins Ontario or Oslo Norway.

  10. You got a job to do that’s not short commutes or pleasure driving you are going home at noon.. I suspect that why government workers love EVs so much..

  11. They can always install gasoline heaters similar to those on the air-cooled Volkswagens years ago. They could heat the batteries and interior spaces while leaving the buses electric drives. Of course that means looking at battery busses filling the fuel tanks so they can use batteries.

    I amuse myself.

    1. Yeah, I remember those gasoline heaters in the old VW’s. They rarely worked and when you got them “repaired”, nobody would guarantee that they would keep working…..and they actually went through a HELL of a lot of gas.

  12. Am I the only one who reads, well – along with most people here. In the bitter cold electric vehicles use all their juice to warm the batteries. The retarded assholes in Edmonton had electric buses but ripped out the overhead lines about 15 years ago.

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