I would suggest a headline change to “Carney buys votes in Quebec and Ontario“. That aside, wouldn’t it be cheaper to just buy 155 mm artillery shells from places that already make such a commonly available munition? It’s also worth asking if this is a case of governments getting ready to fight the last war.
Ottawa will pump more than $1 billion in public funds into new facilities in Ingersoll, Ont., and Repentigny, Que., for heavy munitions used in artillery.
Related, from Kate: 10 massive Canadian federal projects (2010-2025) that delivered almost ZERO benefits or were never built
Nine hundred and ninety million of that will be consumed by environmental impact studies, developing DEI-sensitive hirng and promotional criteria, and various other brown paper bags payments to the inner sanctum of the The Ivory Tower Trash Club.
Yup….and they will manufacture SFA.
Gushes over the Lieberals. I expect no less from the Canuckistanian Pravda.
“The aim is to get production of nitrocellulose up and running in the next three years.”
Bah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
After the environmental studies, DEI crap, etc that Jamie (above) mentioned, someone will discover that it’s a traditional indigenous ceremonial take-a-huge-dump site, and its on the migratory path of the left-handed red-throated northern warbler, etc etc etc…
Oh no! We’ve discovered another midden! We need to study the native trash dump! Years of delay … Biologists … Anthropologists… Indian Apologists … all getting rich! Studying clam shells.
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is this an example of a government shell company? lol
I say, give the contract to Bombardier!
A Bombardier and SNC Lavalin joint venture?
Lol’d
After hundreds of millions has been spent, Quebec will declare “there is no social licence for nitrocellulose.”
Quebec will then demand, and get, hundreds of millions to study alternatives.
In order to use artillery shells it is often helpful to have the field pieces within 20 miles or so of the target. Unless the shells are to be used against the States (something that Trudeau might’ve considered) just who is gonna use these shells? If the shells are to be used in some foreign war, just how exactly are those shells to be transported? Out of what harbor?
If the shells are to be used at sea, how exactly does Canada’s very fine 17 icebreakers propose to fire them? Last I heard, Canada hasn’t had a cruiser in service since the 1950’s, and currently has nothing larger that a frigate in operation, with destroyers on the way (someday). Current frigates only use “shells” against incoming aircraft, so such shells will have to wait until (estimated) “Early 2030’s” (and that’s if the Brits get it right).
105 is a common artillery (read Army) caliber. Look for all this to end up as our contribution to Ukraine. It’s our way to pay hommage to the globalist war. They can be shipped by sea or if you like to burn money, by Herk or C-17. Or lease an Antonov like the old days. Everything is air transportable nowadays, and air droppable once.
127mm?
the nation is like some desperate, addled brained quasi homeless veteran who sells blood
to make ends meet, so much so the needle apparatus is left in their arm.
ALL ‘self inflicted’ as they say but no one is sure how that happened and
all the while reminiscing how decades ago, it was nothing like this . . . .
Chili Con Carnage is simply preparing the nation to defend itself from the US, once the Chinese take over.
At least in Ingersoll they can use the 1000’s of unsold EV delivery trucks (which also received subsidy $) for QA testing of the shells.
The progressive Liberal way: reinvent the wheel, albeit smaller, though somehow with inexplicably more hot air.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the world suddenly realized that the US isn’t going to protect them anymore. There are a number of of countries rearming. If Canada can actually get something made supplying those countries could be very lucrative. Plus there is the fact that Canada uses those shells so we should be making them.
“If Canada can actually get something made…”
Meh.
The media and Liberals,yes a redundancy,I know,are bragging about their Military Spending..
2%ers.
Classic Can Ahh Duh bureaucracy..
First cause the problem.
Then pretend to fix it.
Our dollar is worth a 1/3,our GDP is shrinking..But we are spending 2%..
2% of SFA.
For those who don’t know what they’re talking about, which sounds like everyone here, 155 mm artillery shells and the explosives to fill them have been made in Canada for a long time, likely since WW2.
Ingersoll Machine and Tool in Ingersoll Ontario makes the shell bodies. Expro (now part of General Dynamics) made bulk explosives, Canadian Arsenals performed the assembly of all the components into ammunition. Canadian Arsenals became SNCIT in the 1980s and is now owned by General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems.
There is a long history of ammunition manufacture in Canada for both the Canadian Forces and export.
I imagine this new money is for expansion and modernization.
The new money is for engraving “Elbows Up” and “Death to America” on the shell casings.
The shells will be used against Alberta in the war of independence.
The idea is that Carney is oh-so-smart that he will save Canada from everything + make it #1 in all aspects. I heard some dude at radio AM640 (in GTA) this morning: “Carney omg soo smart, Harvard, Oxford!”
Yeah so smart that he did absolutely nothing to improve Canada financially/economically. Maybe he’s smart re air travel especially to his beloved EU + protocol on the airplane but certainly not smart in politics, international issues nor anything admin/logistics/planning federal level. And his speech is full of uhs & ums, he’s even worse than PM Blackie. Don’t they teach at Harvard & Oxford how to deliver a speech properly?
When you pay that kind of tuition you don’t have to attend class.
If we are to supply shells to the states and they want to invade how smart is that? 🙂
If I’m not mistaken we have 33 – 155 mm guns.
Maybe we should trade Israel for some defensive systems, oh wait …. Jews.
Never mind.
I have this new theory that everything runs on debt and it only works if most people are unaware.
Going to go out on a limb here and say that most of the machining and assembly of as many rounds as they’d be willing to pay for could be handled by farming it all out to various CNC shops around the Southern Ontario area, and the bangbang stuff could be churned out by local fertilizer companies without building anything new.
Another advantage is that you don’t create a big fat beautiful target for people to shoot drones at.
What might be USEFUL is a new foundry for making gun tubes, which are currently in shortage all over the Western world. (They don’t last much more than 1000 rounds, and you can shoot that off in a couple of weeks. Ukrainians are burning through artillery barrels at an extreme rate.)
I’m pretty sure it could be done for a lot less than a billion taxpayer dollars. And the Americans would buy them, an added plus.