We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

16 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

1. Electric fleet vehicles work well, but only if you have smart, technically competent people in charge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_buses_in_Moscow

   1. Trolley buses and electric streetcars work well. Plug-in battery buses? No. In the -winter-? Double no. (Also, fyi, anything out of A) Moscow and B) Wikipedia is not “evidence” in most cases. Idiotic Greenie blather at best, enemy propaganda more likely.)

      Do you know what the infrastructure requirements are to charge a plug-in battery bus fleet? Megawatts. There’s not enough spare electricity in Ontario to charge buses for the TTC. They’d have to build a dedicated generation station just for that. A big one. Which they are not doing, clearly. So this is all just another unserious attempt to fail expensively, free money for the Right People.

      I do find it hilarious that OshKosh truck company couldn’t build a frickin’ postal van. “…during leak testing, which resulted in “water [pouring] out as if [the vehicles’] oversize windows had been left open in a storm.” How do you get to a production-level test and the cabin isn’t even water tight? Seriously, that’s comedy gold.

      1. The Wikipedia link was just a short introduction for anyone who wants to learn more. Google more info. Moscow has an enormous fleet of electric buses as do other Russian cities. They operate effectively all year round. Over the years, in part because of these buses, the air quality in Moscow has dramatically improved and the level of street noise has declined as well. Most Russians had their fill of leftist ideology quite some time ago. What matters there now is “does it work?”. The bus system there definitely works. Come visit and have a ride.

         1. Why would I fly to Russia when the Soviet Union is coming to me already? Canada is more soviet now than Stalingrad.

            1. Join the exodus from Canada to Russia like this family: https://m.youtube.com/@countrysideacreshomestead2008

   2. My big beef with governments switching to electric vehicles is that they already have a fleet of dependable and reliable ICE vehicles that end up being mothballed for absolutely no good reason.

      So you have the cost of the replacement vehicles plus the cost of trashing the previous ones, which have years of life left in them.

      1. That’s like Germany and other countries shutting down perfectly reliable nuclear and coal-fired power plants to build unreliable green energy boondoggles.

2. It will always be about the kickbacks. As long as the right politicians and bureaucrats get wealthy off of the taxpayers the grift will continue.

3. A Biden administration plan to create a green fleet of postal vehicles has built only 250 electric mail trucks in more than two years, amounting to a multibillion-dollar “boondoggle,” Republicans said.
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   The USPS operated at a $9.5 Billion loss in 2024. In the real world, when a business does the same, they don’t get a new fleet of vehicles that has no effect on performance or efficiency. You could argue a switch over to EV’s will decrease performance and efficiency. They, especially, don’t double their debt and only get a fraction of the “improvement” they originally desired.

   This isn’t Economics 101. This is common sense learned in elementary school when checking your pockets for change to purchase a candy bar.

   1. Adding this, because I found it funny, and proof that there still are Canadians (like the crew here) that haven’t given into the nonsense:

      I guess you could put this under the “Mischief is Important” category. A guy rolling up on a Toronto cop.

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7Ga_ec8JBGk

      1. If you identify as a cop, are you still guilty of impersonating a cop?

      2. Beauty!

4. Wait! What!? $1.7B spent thus far (from Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act aka The Green New Deal) and just 250 e-trucks manufactured!? Wha, wha, whaaaaat!?

   That’s $6.8M per truck! “Inflation Reduction Act”? AYFKM!? Graft and Grift of the taxpayers deep pockets.

   1. Saving the planet is costly business.

   2. Bro up above with his Moscow buses says $6.8 million bucks a piece is a small price to pay for clean air, Kenji.

      Also the price you pay when you hire a military contractor to build a bespoke delivery truck on an entirely new technology platform.

      Because they couldn’t have asked Elon to whip something up, right? Couldn’t drop a van body on a Cybertruck or something like that. Nooo, these guys went to OshKosh, the ones who build Big Iron missile trucks, fire trucks etc.

      1. Bro up above thinks that is a ridiculous amount for a bus. The electric buses in Moscow cost 200 to 300,00 euros. I think that is quite reasonable.