28 Replies to “Where have they been?”

  1. 80 percent of remaining oil and gas, with 100 percent of coal must remain unmined in Carneys Canada. So lets cut the crap whining about C69. Carney will not rescind carbon taxes, C69 or emissions caps, either bend over or stand up once and for all in Saskatchewan and Alberta as Liberal majority is lights out for the west.

  2. Yup. The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers has been hiding in the long grass for decades. And just like Canada’s farm organizations, every now and then they’d stick their heads up to give support to green legislation that would eventually kill their members.

    1. Everybody loves their free lunches, while blowing smoke up each other’s arse.
      Easy money does that to certain people.

    2. It’s the same for every commercial and industrial association. They send out annual reports to the membership outlining how great a job their doing on the membership’s behalf in working with the government on making regulations and legislation to improve profitability and opportunities when in reality the members just keep getting screwed and have to pay for the privilege of it.

      1. “working with the government on making regulations and legislation” just means they have surrendered.

        The key to survival in any meaningful sense is fighting the government tooth and nail at every opportunity, even going on strike Atlas Shrugged style if need be.

      2. Absolutely. A few come to mind: Ont Fed. Anglers & Hunters; Ont. R. Estate Assoc; Ont Fed. Of Ag; Ducks Unlimited; etc etc etc.

    3. Agreeing with your sworn enemy that … “we all must do something to combat climate change” … and funding utterly ridiculous “carbon capture” unpower plants … is pathetic. The so called leadership of Canadian oil companies are a bunch of metrosexual eunuchs.

      Co2 is NOT a pollutant. Period. Stop the unscientific nonsense.

  3. L – An excellent letter to a group of timid “leaders” of … well, who should have fought for and
    defended “the true North strong and Free”. Now the formerly strong and struggling against
    the odds to regain the freedoms, that are our inheritance.

    That this letter is published here recognizes that SDA is the new mainstream media, a part of
    where public dialogue happens and stories break. That is until Evil Incarnyate passes C-63
    and online prisons make this the Samizdat for minds yearning to be free.

    Then I want a New Country will be the anthem for reclaiming our political heritage, our inalienable Natural Rights. To be continued.

  4. I’ve commented on this several times. They’re masters of “Playing both sides against the middle”. Relying on the joe lunchbuckets of the country to do all of their political heavy lifting only because they provide jobs, while execs sit on a blanket for a photo op with Chief “Two Escalades” smoking sweetgrass before turning soil over for a wind project.
    It’s always a tell if you visit their website and there’s a “Sustainability” header, which means they’re drinking Green Scheme Kool Aid and lots of it.

  5. The corporate world has one job to do and that is to make money for their shareholders. Don’t encourage them to be fountains of capitalistic wisdom or social engineers. Too many are managed by rent seekers and even Jacobins but almost all are morally and politically hedged cowards. The more “mixed” the economy the worse they get as they are incentivized to drive regulation to prevent and or harm competition. Industry associations are typically worse.
    Bronwyn’s article identified the issues that threaten the industry and economy but the reality is Carney is a zealot and Jacobin and could care less. He’s a globalist and in his mind the knuckle draggers of western Canada can just shut up and be governed by his entitled narcissistic whim and the East will give him the power. The road to serfdom will be completed by Carney.

    1. Very sensible. Industry cannot take a lead here. That’s the responsibility of government. And Canada has been saddled with an anti-energy federal government for a decade. The spinelessness of the Trudeau administration was shown when they accepted and agreed with the canceling of Keystone XL and went on to trash Energy East and Northern Gateway.

      Given such political hostility, of course organizations like CAPP kept their heads down. It was always possible for the Trudeau goons to do something much worse. And Marx Carnage has already indicated just how much worse that possibility will be if he gets elected.

      1. “Very sensible. Industry cannot take a lead here. That’s the responsibility of government.”

        Unbelievable. No wonder Canada is in such a hopeless state. Cowardice stalks the land.

        1. It’s too late for Canada. The gov’t and “industry” have entered into a fascistic incestuous relationship, with the end result being predictable.

        2. Exactly right. IN a sane world, business and government and private citizens would be equally engaged in an ongoing project to constantly improve the prosperity of citizens and business. Leadership in the government would never be engaged in undermining and destroying the quality of life of the people.

        3. This isn’t about cowardice. It’s about survival until the voters can correct their mistakes over the past decade and boot out the LPC.

          1. Nope. It’s cowardice. Rotten and yellow. It’s a Canadian institution. It defines the nation.

          2. What part about the “first duty of any private enterprise is to their shareholders” did you not understand? Are you claiming that rancid stupidity should define the nation? Or do you prefer survival?

          3. No, cgh. Although the results would likely be close, rancid stupidity will always cede first place to groveling cowardice; in Canada’s corporate world AND in a majority of the electorate.

            Your posts confirm it.

  6. interesting to see the top boyz in the oil bizznizz mirror attitudes and
    behaviour of the zombies.
    this apparently has something to do with elbows.
    have the rules about elbows changed? back in the day the phrase was ‘elbowing their way in’ and famous elbows like Gordie Howe abounded.
    topsy turvy backwards upside down just claim a thing and all MUST agree!!!

  7. Many ceo-types are cowards. They are often focused on only their own career, not the company or shareholders they work for. Now they come out when they see the ship turning. ‘Leading from behind’. H

  8. Bronwyn Eyre is retarðeð hypocrite that should have stayed in radio

    Her and her Sask Party ilk could have just refused to cooperate with the federal carbon tax regime the entire time Trudeau was in power like they eventually did anyway. Instead they wasted taxpayer money on lawsuits in corrupt system that everyone knew they would lose to begin with, and also tried to hide a corporate carbon tax in plain site.

  9. Pretty much all of the big oil companies have a sustainability page that waxes poetic about greenhouse gases, and the Alberta companies add “indigenous people” BS into the mix for good measure.
    Separation “saving” AB and SK from Confederation would probably be about as successful as Brexit “saving” the UK from the EU.

  10. As a matter of fact, the business people should stay out of public politics. Doing it on their own time is more desirable.
    You mix with politicians, you get sucked in and you’re done as a business person.
    That is not to say that they should shut up if the political thrash messes up with their business, they should make
    business points and deal with that, not politics.
    One can understand that they have to stand up to the political thrash, just don’t get into endless arguments as the politicians are want to do. Of course the politicians want to suck as much bribery as they possibly can, the business should resist.
    State and insist on your case with sense and knowledge, stay away from DEI, AGW and all that peripheral garbage that the political thrash throws your way.

  11. Grateful that Bronwyn Eyre wrote this constructive criticism.
    Canada needs much more public support of her private industries
    to counter the rampant and intentionally ignorant.

    Some will say the Oil Industry failed to acquire a collective voice in Ottawa
    because they were too easily frightened by NEP,
    and the publics’ giant yawn in response to it.

    Excuses which don’t prevent big business from thriving anywhere else in the world,
    or other industries from succeeding in Canada.

    And ever since Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau
    peed all over the energy industry in 1980
    Canadians have been conditioned to resent supporting one another.

    Pray this will change.

  12. “Turn off the taps” should always be on the table, though it makes more sense to argue this in November than in April-May. It’s unfortunate that it’s not April 2017 with this bold statement.

    Resources are for the provinces, if the federal gov’t wants it different, and the courts say it’s ok to tax those resources until they break, open up the constitution and be prepared for AB to walk away with a long list of items which are apparently too sacred to consider changing. Then the east can figure it out without the western noise.

  13. The energy industry in particular, and the entire Canadian economy in general, is now so far from a free-market economy that most people can no longer frame solutions in terms of free-market principles.
    Look at some folk here, saying such things as:
    “The gov’t should do something.”
    “Industry needs ‘a voice.'”
    It is the logical equivalent of trying to fix a car with a cracked block with spray foam and duct tape.
    We’re cooked.

    1. Any notion of a free market was crippled in 1973 when the Foreign Investment Review Board was created. It was made utterly impossible by the 1970s Berger Commission on MacKenzie Valley, and finished off completely by the passage of the Canada Environmental Review Act of 1990. Canada has put in place a network of legislation making any action by industry impossible. Four decades of legislation by the federal government would have to be demolished first.

  14. All those bills and red tape and policies can be scrapped and it won’t make any difference. Nothing will get done because the Aboriginals have been given the veto and their power is only going to grow. The movement to recognize Aboriginal rights and all the UN proposals the Liberals and the courts agree with spell DOOM.

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