94 Replies to “Coulda Had A Pipeline”

  1. For all the down sides of Alberta and Saskatchewan joining the US, the upsides of leaving behind Ottawa and Quebec are legion.

    I’d leave just to get the French off of cereal boxes.

    1. watto watto watto, now how are the unlearned supposed to have an intro to
      le francais? lol. funny story, when l DID learn french in high school l found
      he FRENCH on the cereal boxes sometimes LITTLE similarity to le anglais . . .

      1. Oh Canada! is different in French and English. Whereas the English version has been wokened several times, it remains identical to what was written by Caliaxa Lavallee and what I learned in grade school 70 years ago.

        Oh Canada, terre de nos ayeux (Oh Canada, Land of our predecessors)
        Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux (your brow is dressed with glorious flowers)
        Car ton bras sait porter l’epee, il sait porter la croix ( For your arm knows to carry the sword, it knows to carry the Cross)

        Not very woke is it?

      1. The US military would never allow for its aircraft programs to become public until the technology is dated.

        Such as the TR3B.

        They’re more than happy for people to believe in aliens in the interim.

    4. Alberta and Saskatchewan don’t have to join the US. They would be large enough to stand alone as countries.

      1. Sure, and that would likely be the best option. Though it would be key to first eliminate all social programs so that the new country(ies) are free of rats from Day 1.

        Leaving only the productive and useful, and flooding the cities of the rest of Canada with “diversity” and government “workers”.

        And also make the propagation of socialism illegal, eliminating the possibility of communist organizations like the NDP from ever forming.

        1. Nope….the GDP of Alberta is at least as high as that of Norway, Denmark and Finland. It’s population is roughly the same size. In fact, the population of Saskatchewan and Alberta combined is not the much different from Switzerland and combined the GDP of Saskatchewan and Alberta would be only slighly lower than Switzerland.

      2. How about those 2 standing together.

        More winnings.
        Be tired of so much winning, to quote Trump.
        But
        “Canadians -any part of this hellhole- ARE meek!”

  2. honest to gawd, we lived in niagara region between ’75 and ’91.
    > dozen occasions to cross the border.
    l toyed with and briefly looked into process of changing citizenship.
    well well well, might not have to now!!!
    who knows if joint nationhood ever happened in my lifetime,
    one scenario could be anyone could ‘maintain’ their ‘Canadian’ citizenship
    and all the perks and policies would still apply for international travel,
    and at any time that individual could opt to officially and PERMANENTLY
    naturally switch to American citizenship.
    and of course anyone born in the previous territory called Canaduh would
    onlu enjoy ‘American by birth’.
    (l think it would be a fantastic selling point, all it takes according to kaybeck
    is ONE successful referendum by the populace, go for it Alberta!!)

    1. I lived in the Niagara too during that exact time (barring 1991). Except, I’m an American who became a landed immigrant in Canada (I have no idea what they call them now). I took a job as a teacher in a private Christian school at a time when it was still possible to do that as an American. Then I moved on to another profession. I enjoyed my early years in Ontario (mostly), but by 1990 was happy to return to the U.S. (western NY). I still worked in Ontario, though, for another decade. But the moral smugness of so many Ontarians (in reference to Americans, particularly) started to really get to me
      Now, I’d never consider moving back to Canada even if it were feasible. Nor would I move back to NY. That area is beautiful, and NY is a beautiful state in general. It’s so sad that the state government is so thoroughly corrupt. But then, it seems most governments, at most levels are corrupt these days (and have been for quite some time).

    1. it took almost 100 years but consecutive liberal governments have finally put the last nail in the coffin that used to be Canada. Congratulations liberal voters

  4. Oh. My. God. If that isn’t a shot across the bow, nothing is. But Ford ordered the LCBO to clear the shelves of all U.S. booze. Yeah, you go Doug!!!. “We stand shoulder to shoulder”.
    What a god damned, jug headed dumbass!!!

  5. While I’m aware what Trump is saying has some omissions about the importance of WCS heavy oil from Alberta plus potash from Saskatchewan, etc…I am content to eat popcorn, watch the show and see how this ends.

    1. Yep, because there will be no tariff barriers. It should be obvious that: 1. Trump has much larger issues to deal with right now; 2. Trump is simply waiting until Justatwit and his gang of thugs is tossed out of office; and 3. the simplest solution to all this trade war nonsense is to simply give DJT what he wants.

      1. Yeah, that’s definitely a possibility but it’s difficult to get a good read on Trump. He’s unpredictable.

        If this gets Canada to an election sooner, I’ll be happy.

        1. If you want a good read on him watch wrestling some blowhard gets up and gets the crowd into a frenzy which works every time and then usually not much happens and then it happens again next week

    1. Precisely how can the “Canadian sheep” earn the right to become Americans?
      We share the same continent. We fought, died, and won the same wars alongside the Americans.
      We share the same culture as the Americans.
      So in your opinion, what must Canadians do to earn the right to become Americans?
      Would it be enough in your opinion if Canadians abandon their socialist ideology, or is there something else they must do to earn your respect? If there is more that we should be doing, what would that be?
      Honest question.

      2. Re: fc

        Canadians did NOT participate in WWII to defend freedom.
        They were defending the British Empire and the Crown, hence, cannon fodder!

        1. Canada certainly did enter the war to defend the freedom of Belgium. The US didn’t enter the war to defend freedom at all. Hitler declared war on them. As did the Japanese, of course.

      1. Are there 10x more?
        Don’t know where you live, how much you’ve moved around.
        I can assure you, it is bad, real bad!

        These evil garbage from T.O., Vancouver and such, know sooo much more than you do. They know what is good for your community, u and your family.
        Too many examples, too many towns, too many provinces and territories to bother to list.

        Evil is here to stay.
        I do not believe prayers can fix this…

    3. Pete did you ever study History? Our Canadian past war efforts might surprise you! I studied the Second World War with Dr Hayden
      Let me give you 3 things to consider–D-Day and the Battle of Normandy —1The Canadians were so far inland they had to stop their Assault , The Americans were stalled on and near the beach, The English were stalled on the beach and the Australians were stalled!
      2——Have you heard of the term “Storm Troopers” This term was used by Adolph Hitler to describe Canadians troops to his Generals! If the Canadians were involved in the fight —–The germans would use different tactics!
      3——In the First World War – none of our Allies could take Vimy Ridge! Guess who took Vimy Ridge——-The Canadian took the Ridge! ps. My Grandfather was there and when I asked him how Canadians managed to take the Ridge he answered 2 words—–Farm Boys!

      1. Yeah Keith, but that was then. This is now, with DEI armed forces, thanks to Liberal governments and their NDP supporters.

  7. LOL!!
    I guess Manifest Destiny ain’t over yet…
    I’m going to have fun bugging the shit out of the Sudden Flag-huggers who never gave a fck about anything other than themselves, let alone the “post-nation”.

    1. That’s a good point. Up until recently, Canada was self-flagellating over the residential schools and other “past sins”.

  8. Politicians in Canada will always refer to “we” or “we Canadians” while it’s only a moment to point out that 98% of politicians give the rest of Canada a bad name.
    I imagine it’s largely the same in the US. The taxation on property according to rainfall and hard surfaced areas in Maryland comes to mind. The legendary permitting process’ of California…

    The people who voted for “big gov’t” on both sides of the border, deserve all the derision possible

    1. “The people who voted for “big gov’t” …”

      In Canada, that’s 95.1 percent of the electorate.

    2. I’d argue the permitting process of the city of Edmonton might be just as bad as Californy. It took me 1.5 years to get a development permit for a 100 suite apartment. Yet one more reason why there’s a housing problem. The apartment was built in less time than it took to get the permits.

  9. This is a great opportunity to foist Ontario on the US. Once rid of that nest of Nazis, Canada could resume being a normal country.

  10. Screw Trump. Screw Ottawa.

    Let’s rebuild this thing the way it was supposed to be built. We have more than enough resources to be self-sufficient. It will take a few years of pain but in the end we will be WAY ahead of joining an even more corrupt nation like the US. Don’t forget they just had 4 years of a senile old man. Their elections are corrupt. And they just tried to put an Indian woman into power.

    Also … deport all the parasites feeding off of us.

    2. Come on Canada! Join us! And then … 40% of your firefighter “First Responders” Will be women! Or “decline to state” genders! Because equity or something. Don’t you want to be even MORE progressive?

  11. I can certainly see many benefits for me in Canada becoming a state but has anyone explained to Trump that the citizenry here voted for Blackie McBlackface THREE times? It’s essentially like adding another California but without the nice weather.

    1. Well, Alberta and Saskatchewan could join the US along with the BC mainland. This would swing the balance of politics in the US decidedly to the right.

      And Ontario, Vancouver, and the Maritimes could join Cuba. And Manitoba and the territories could claim Canada for themselves.

      While Quebec could join Haiti.

      Win, win, win!

      2. I assume ze EU would come knocking on the door of the remaining Canadian provinces. The central and eastern Canadian province’s economic potential would be similar to Europe’s. Europe might want a foothold in North America.

      3. That’s the way I read it. No to BC as a whole. Add Yukon and N.W. territories.
        I believe lives are improved. Be your own country or join the U.S. but the reality is “Canada” as we know it, is doomed.

        1. Re BC: Draw a 150km circle centered on Vancouver. Everything inside is already owned by China. Outside the circle would be productive enough to join the independent Buffalo Republic giving a pop of say 6-7 million, an area from the Pacific to the Manitoba border, ports on the Pacific, a land connection to the largest market in the world and a per capita GDP dwarfing the rest of Canada.
          Territories – a money pit at present so conditions on them joining
          Manitoba/ Ontario deserve each other
          Quebec/Haiti – genius!
          Atlantic provinces would actually benefit from becoming a US state
          Finally a Trudeau legacy

    1. That demonstrates that he’s normal. The only guy ever in the White House who likely wants to get closer to Juthtin is Big Mike.

    3. Trump certainly does not have a “big hate” for the Turd. He wastes little time on such nonentities. He is not targetting the Turd, or indeed his audience at the WEF. He was emphasising that the idiotic crap they are shown in the media and are tempted to believe, is in fact idiotic crap.

  13. President Trump has realized that all Canadian Leaders are Justines.
    And he is mocking us mercilessly.
    Can Ahh duh has not been a real country since WW2.
    And the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms sure made that official.
    If we join the NWT and Yukon to Alaska.
    Call Alberta,Saskatchewan and Northern BC.. Buffalo State.
    Then there you have it,the 51st State.
    The rest of Can Ahh Duh gets the same status of Puerto Rico until they recover their senses and abandon the welfare state.

  14. With all the advantages I like, there is a disadvantage for those over 55. Those who are younger can easily switch gears and adapt. That is going from the Marxist/Leninist “free” public healthcare to taking out health insurance and paying for minor appointments and procedures. The tax savings won’t make enough difference to cover it. Retirees may be in trouble if Medicare/Medicaid doesn’t help.
    Also, we won’t we going back to gallons, quarts and pints. It’ll be those teeny-weeny US gallons, US quarts and US pints..

    1. Whataa ya worried about? Obama declared he modeled Obamakkare after the AWESOME, PERFECT, Canadian government healthcare system. Here in the States we have to PAY for healthcare you don’t need or want … and subsidize the old, infirm, and unhealthy with unaffordable premiums and huge deductibles. So in essence … the young are paying for the old.

      But if you like your Mumbai educated Doctor … you can keep your shithole educated Doctor. Yeayyy socialized medicine is so GREAT!

    2. Are you not assuming that Canada can keep a healthcare system operational in our near future?
      Those of us over 55 are already screwed.
      “Free Healthcare”.
      And a unicorn in every house.

      1. “They” want us old guys in the last few years of our lives to commit suicide instead of getting medical treatment.

  15. However distracted & lazy Trump is, it is clear that there has been
    a lot of supporters assembling his myriad of actions.
    Some are trivial [gone are govt pages in Spanish]

    while others are “World Historic” Geopolitics [as the Germans put it].

    Here’s Michael Ignatieff speculating from Vienna on the latter, as the U.S. is no longer the unipolar power.
    […]
    Trump may be looking to the future, to a world where the writ of “the rules-based international order” no longer runs,
    and where power over the global economy has devolved to three zones of influence:
    the Chinese in east Asia,
    the Russians in Eurasia, and
    the Americans, with an exclusive sphere of influence in the western hemisphere,
    stretching from Greenland in the Arctic to Chile at the southern tip of Latin America.
    […]
    If this is how to make America great again — hegemon over a bi-continental sphere of influence, with the US homeland as its heart —
    this might just be Trump’s quid pro quo for accepting Russian and Chinese spheres of influence and letting India tack between the two.
    Accepting their spheres of influence, provided they recognise his, would allow him to cut the Gordian knot that has tied America’s strategic interests to Europe and Asia.

    He’s never had any patience with the Washington liberal elite’s vision of America providing global public goods in a rules-based liberal international order.
    If his strategic competitors accept an American sphere of influence in its own hemisphere,
    what strategic interest would America still have if China blockades, invades and absorbs Taiwan?
    If Russia imposes direct or indirect control over Ukraine, what would that matter to the US?
    If first eastern Europe, and then western Europe, becomes a satellite in a Russian sphere of influence, why should America try to stop it? […]

    https://archive.is/XEEtx

    I doubt that Trump could confect such Orwellian plans, but his advisers may.

    1. I don’t think it does the US any good to cede Asia to China and Europe to Russia. That would put much of the global population into the hands of dictatorships and would wreck trading opportunities. Not to mention the implications for the lives of most of humanity and the amount of future hassle for the USA.

      Fred
      https://freditorial.substack.com/

  16. We will never have the choice of becoming part of the USA, but if it did come to a vote,I would want to see clearly the benefits and disadvantages of doing so. There’s a lot more to it than a few social problems and some laws we don’t like.
    The American stance on guns if far preferable to me personally that the Canadian/China model we have to live under, and I do like their administration of fish and game laws, but that’s only 1% of the equation.

    I’d like to see some enterprising person lay it all out so we peasants can make an informed choice.
    Some U.S. States have the death penalty, but I wouldn’t trust any of the governments in Canada with that power,Tamara Lich would be on death row.

    I’m not thrilled with Judges and Prosecutors being elected,and not sure about elected Sheriffs. Pros and cons to both. I do like an elected senate, but don’t like the American system of having no age limits. Imagine Justin Trudeau being elected to the Senate by the good people of Montreal and still serving at age 98.

    There are many issues, pros and cons,I’d want to see ’em all laid out in front of me before I voted.

    I DO hope Trump is enjoying all the hysteria he’s created in our media and left-wing politicians. Tank about “chicken little”.

    1. America has been stumbling down the road to communism just as fast as Canada. There is just as much government control and regulation over Americans as there are in Canada.

  18. Trumpy says he wants to protect US borders, make more jobs for Americans, and have lower prices.

    His solution? Canada becomes a state.

    The US gets 40 million people who are free to cross the current border and move anywhere in the US. I’m sure that’ll help jobs for the current Americans. How long before US exporters have layoffs?

    40 million people, where 65% of the voters vote left (i.e. Democrat). That’ll sure help Republicans. Can you imagine Obama appointees for the next twenty plus years? And Soros endorsed officials?

    Tariffs will make goods cheaper in the US?
    Really? US manufacturers will be able to raise prices, since they’d no longer have foreign competition.

    Some goods would temporarily be cheaper since current US exporters would have to dump their exports in the US as other countries would slap big tariffs on US exports.

    Has Trumpy stopped the 690 million small packages that come into the US each year, which are not inspected? How much fentanyl comes in that way?

    Had Trumpy cancelled the 5 million non-immigrant visas currently issued to Indians?

    Canada a US state? Trumpy’s blowing smoke. Not going to happen.

  19. The major American oil refineries are having kittens, cause they know the U.S. is highly dependent on foreign oil. Specifically, U.S. oil production is about 14.5 million barrels / day, and consumption is 19 million barrels. In short, 31% if their oil consumption is foreign.

    And Canada is by far the best place to get that oil. It’s cheap and secure, and doesn’t fund enemies of the U.S.

    1. Make that 24% of their oil consumption is foreign. Math is hard.

      And about two-thirds of that is from Alberta.

    2. Here’s an idea! Cooperate with the USA in securing the border. Yeah the math is tough on that simple solution too, eh?

      1. Here’s an idea! Trump can quit talking about a 51st state. It’s about as funny as Hitler laying claim to the Sudetenland.

      2. I thought so too, initially. And reducing fentanyl and undesirable aliens would be a win-win for both countries.

        Has that time passed? Now Trump has the tariff bit between his teeth and I don’t know. Part of me thinks this is classic “Art of the Deal” and he’s starting with a radical initial position to get us to get where he wants. And if that’s the fentanyl/alien angle then great. If it’s a 10% tariff that’s still be bad news for our hemorrhaging manufacturing sector.

        Most canadians will hate Trump for this but won’t give a second thought to the fact they’ve voted for reflexive anti-american liberal governments for the past 30+ years, preening while they take shots at the US.

        Now there’s a POTUS who isn’t putting up with their anti-US shït – some of it just as recently when Dildeau took shots at the US for not electing harris.

        Stupid. Idiotic. You don’t take shots at trump and not expect consequences; he’s not like the presidents of the past 50 years that really paid us no mind. Of course, a PM who cared about this country and not his own selfish gains would have kept his GD mouth shut rather than insult the new president. And that’s something else liberal voters can own if they look in the mirror.

        mhb23re

      3. Kenji

        You’ll know Trump is serious about fentanyl when he stops the 690 million small packages that came into the US from China. These package’s aren’t inspected.

          1. Eskimo, if only. Try and import a dozen Ivermectin tablets from U.S to CA
            Tried twice and both times they snagged and refused entry.

      4. The point being that Trump doesn’t have his facts right. The US is not oil independent. Not even close.

        If he’s making decisions based on wrong facts, things might not play out as he figures.

        1. Incorrect.
          The United States has been a net total energy exporter—total energy exports have been higher than total energy imports—since 2019 …

  20. Sorry, I cannot agree with my MAGA-roided President. If Canada became a State … the communists who fawn over Trudeau would tip the balance of power in America permanently leftist. North America would become California … on steroids.

  21. Ha ha

    Blow it out your ass DJT. Piss off with the threats. They’ve grown tiresome. Your starting to look like some guys who play hockey. Talk tough but never take a fight. Your pissed with Canada about something? Bring it like a man. We can deal with it.

    1. This country couldn’t deal with a wet dream. Are our visionary premiers uniting under Castreau to deal with Trump ?

      Don’t make me laugh. This isn’t the same guy who won the White House in 2016, look at what he’s done in the first 2 days to reverse the OBiden legacy. He’s not screwing around, ABT.

      I’d feel a lot better with PP at the helm as at least he could find common ground with trump. With this cabal of liberal idiots I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we don’t get nuked.

      We are in real trouble.

      mhb23re

  23. For 10 years we’ve had a bunch of clowns destroying our industry. Guess what Toronto. The bill is coming due and you pieces of absolute trash will pay first. Sign up for maid now while the wait times are short.

  24. The weirdest part of this is that Trump thinks trade deficits mean that someone is being cheated. That is a false premise that surely someone in his entourage could have debunked for him.

    Trump says America doesn’t need Canadian oil, but the USA uses about 5 million barrels per day more than it produces, so he has to get those barrels from some other country, because he can’t boost oil production by 45%.

    That leads me to believe that he is just BS’ing about most of this. He isn’t going to put huge tariffs on something the US actually needs, like Canadian oil, because that just raises gasoline prices and makes voters in the Midwest mad at him.

    The greater threat to Canada is from Trudeau, reacting to anything Trump does that hurts Quebec and Ontario.

  25. I’ve been a Trump fan for 10 years but I’m beginning to think he’s going loopy like Biden. I hope he has an economist to tell him that 25% tariffs could cause close to 25% inflation. The guy keeps coming up with horse shit economics. Millions are being killed in Ukraine – horse shit. What’s wrong with the guy? Trump and Joe could get matching rocking chairs.

    1. TBF … Trump’s full court press on releasing all the shackles on our energy sector will more than offset any 25% tariffs. The lowering of our energy-price-penalty will lower the cost of ALL goods … along with consumers boycotting high-priced goods. It’s the FREE MARKET people! That’s HOW the FREE MARKET works. Since 2020 … I paid as much as a 200% tariff on building materials because of COVID … $8.50/92-1/4” stud … $77.00/1/2” OSB … the list goes on. My food has gone up an average of 40% since 2020 … my insurances have gone up 28% … PG&E has gone up 38% …

      A 25% tariff on GM auto parts isn’t gonna have a 25% impact on MY monthly budget … and I have never purchased Canadian dairy … so meh. The idea that a 25% tariff on Canadian goods will have a 25% impact on MY personal life is just silly. Sorry, my Canadian friends but I believe you have an outsized impression of your impact in the world. Just as your net contribution to global warming is insignificant at 0.05% … that statistic should tell you something about your net economic impact as well. A 25% tariff is ONLY going to hurt Canada.

      So, again … what’s wrong in negotiating border policies with the USA? Isn’t that what the lifelong far-left State Department Deep Staters always insist on? Diplomacy and Dialogue over Hostility? Cooperation over confrontation? Why is the Canadian government REFUSING to talk? Who is even currently in-charge of your … “No-confidence-suspended-in-political-limbo” … government?

      1. Canada hasn’t been asked to talk.

        In 2016 trump insisted the NAFTA agreement be reopened and renewed. We agreed and signed a trade agreement along with Mexico that Trump declared the best deal ever.

        It’s scheduled to be revisited in 2026.

        I agree that things have gotten out of sorts. A reset is required.

        Maybe instead of roaring around threatening everyone on the planet Trump should pick up the phone. He’ll find a polite Canadian on the other end.

        1. Your own Kevin O’Leary has matter-of-factly explained Trump. He said that Trump is a negotiator, and he uses “noise” to deliver a “signal”. When the petulant children in the FAILED Canadian government aren’t smart enough to understand and deal with Trump’s tactics with calm deliberation … then they literally shouldn’t be in the positions they “occupy”. “Occupy” … as in vegetables.

          And EVERYTHING needs a revisit and a reset from time to time. The status quo is a very dangerous place to occupy

          1. Kenji, you’ve got it right. What’s really going on, is that TruDOPE and his LIEberal pawns are using this as an opportunity to try and save themselves from political obliteration. They were well on their way, but, Trump did give them a cause to rally around.
            So, the key here is will silly Canadians take the bait and vote for the Lieberals, despite their previous 10 years of fiscal ineptitude, moral decay and post-national, nation denying status, or put that behind them and embrace these Eurotrash faux defenders of the maple?
            If so, this nation deserves the economic destruction that will occur, by taking on an opponent 13x our size, by destroying our top export industry, O&G, and all the loss of revenue, jobs and transfer payments that it creates.
            Textbook, national destroying self-immolation, coming right up. Glad I invested in gold 3 years ago, heh-heh.

        2. Re Trumpy saying the last Canada, Mexico, US trade deal “was the best ever”.

          Does Trumpy realize that people will always game whatever system is in place?

          Of course he does. But he practices Cath McKenna politics, “say something loud and often enough, and many people will believe it.”

          Trump made, and makes, his money by developing real estate. As a species, real estate developers and agents are known for their “hyperbole”.

    2. The tariff threat is the blunt instrument Trump will use, if you don’t come around to what he really wants for the US. It’s also designed to distract his opponents and get them off on a tangent of frustration and distraction.
      Mission. Accomplished.
      Many people NEVER learn.
      Looks like our stupid Canadian leadership and population wants more pain, more distraction and more frustration, instead of, OMG, collaborating and negotiating with Bad Orange Hitler!
      Let the games begin. TDS is indeed a brain damaging, fatal disease. And yes, Trump and team remember well, the juvenile acts and words of Trudeau and company, and is going All In on maximum pressure. So be it, we should welcome it, prepare for some short term inconvenience, for long term gains, being rid of Trudeau and his minions.
      I’m not against a much tighter border, nor against far better screening and clamping down on the illegal drug trade, both abuses have been Liberal protected classes for far too long. Notice how the Libs do not want to talk about cracking down on drugs whatsoever.

  27. Everything Donald Trump knows aboot Canada, he learned from watching South Park.

    I’ m not saying he is misinformed, just pointing oot a fact.

  28. Meanwhile the CBC has discovered that Central Canada is dependant on pipelines through the US. Dyer raises revisiting the Energy East pipeline and then spins it into Western Canada accepting production curtailment as “a quid pro quo” all the while not mentioning the role Trudeau and the Liberals had in deliberately landlocking western oil.
    Seriously, these Uppity Canadians are delusional. defund the CBC
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-oil-pipelines-trump-tariffs-1.7438889

  29. Trump is like Buffet he sees an opportunity. With the turd we are down and out , easy to get what he wants cheap.

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