Background: Lil’ Justin has resigned. Parliament is prorogued. A Lieberal leadership campaign will soon commence.
So, my fellow Canadians, what do you predict will happen next?
Here’s my prediction: Mark Carney will run for leader of the Lieberals and win. Given the stupidity of way too many of our fellow Canadians, he’ll either win the next election or keep the Conservatives from achieving a majority.
What say you?!
Carney will be another Ignatieff, so I’m not worried. PP will wipe his ass with lil Mark.
He hasn’t resigned just yet.
Exactly.
Trudeau could very well end up running in the next election if the leadership race is a shit show, which most likely it will be.
Carney won’t win if the leader, the Liberal brand is tarnished.
The whole party cheered Trudeau on and lied to the public for 9 years.
They all need to go.
Carbon Tax Carney is more of the same, WEF stooge, UN Agendas, Climate, Carbon Taxes and add stealing from CPP for Brookfield.
The Conservatives need to keep reminding Canadians of all that, especially of the WEF connections. They also need to remind Canadians that they have been lied to by the mainstream media for years, and trot out the stuff the media said then and what they are saying now. Voters have short memories and need constant reminding.
I too think Carney is Igantieff 2.0, and that he may not even win the party leadership, never mind a general election.
Conservative 200+ seat majority sometime by late spring, as whomever the Libs pluck from the wilderness to save them won’t amount to spit, though they may cling to official party status when they get wiped out.
Around 30% will vote Librano regardless of anything. As my oldest brother tells me … “grandpa voted Liberal, mom and dad voted Liberal and I vote Liberal”.
Nope, not this time. I think LPC ceiling is going to be about 25%. The country’s in such a state that a subset of the LPC NPCs have awoken to the damage.
CPC will carry 40+% easily and push 45%, which in our electoral system will deliver them a landslide.
It doesn’t matter if it’s sports, nature or politics: NEVER underestimate your opposition!!! I have several relatives that still worship the ground Dustbin, I mean Justin walks on. To them, they think he has done nothing wrong and he’s just not being given a fair chance.
Until one of the smarter ones wakes up and votes different.
I voted Liberal in my teens because my parents did.
Not after I left home, never again.
This. I think Carney takes the leadership, presents the veneer of an adult in charge, ties the Conservatives to Trump’s MAGA and ekes out a minority with the help of the Bloc and NDP again. The NDP is too broke to campaign, the Libs will convince enough of their voters to vote L to keep the Cons out to steal a few seats.
This isn’t the US. We’re not a MAGA country ruled over by a tiny power elite that hates us. A plurality of Canadians voted for this, wants this, and will vote for it again.
Trudeau was the face of Liberal policies. With him gone, lefty voters will assume that the policies are gone too. Carney, being an outsider, won’t be tarnished by Liberal baggage the way Freeland is. There will be lots of hoopla and celebration over his winning the leadership which will bring back even more Liberal voters to the fold. Mainstream media will sing his praises.
I don’t see the similarity to Ignatieff other than they were both outsiders. Iggy was his own worst enemy, a doufus who hadn’t lived in Canada for 20 years and only came back to be prime minister. Carney doesn’t carry that baggage either. I agree with Kate, Carney will win, or at least prevent PP from getting a majority.
Carney will be the darling of the media and has all the required background and the image to win over the Canadians who are terrified of Pierre P. Our only hope to avoid another Liberal government is if, like in the US, enough people are completely fed up with the climate and woke agendas and tell the media to take a hike. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not optimistic.
I would say your prediction has high probability. According to the msm, Pierre likley will be cast as Trump ll.
It was Trudeau’s plan to run against Trump.
My guess the election will be in October.
unfortunately you are probably correct, die hard liberals are as dumb as Americans and would vote for a red Irish setter if it ran for the liberals
CPC is already tee’d up to campaign against Carbon Tax Carney. Not as easy a win as going against Justin but it will be a big CPC majority win nonetheless.
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Never overestimate your fellow Canadians, we have elected Trudeaus 7 times, each time expecting different results. We are a nation of extremely slow learners. Don’t bet on us smartening up too quickly.
Trudeau resigned as Leader of the Liberal Party.
What does that mean to us, really?
He’s still Prime Minister; still leading the country even though he’s granted himself and all MP’s a paid holiday until March.
We still have Trudeau. We don’t have an Election. NOTHING changed.
What happens next? More of the dictatorship.
He didn’t resign; he said he will resign, when the Liberals are ready for the next election.
Exactly, he said he intends to resign.
How many people believe Justin?
I think Justin is hoping the Conservatives, NDP, and Bloc vote non-confidence and force an election.
Justin will still be leader, and thinks he can emulate his daddy’s win over Clarke.
The pseudo resignation serves four purposes:
a) It stops Liberals sniping at Justin
b) It provides lots of free media coverage, much of it positive, as different candidates campaign for the leadership.
c) It provides an opportunity for liberals and the media to attack Poilievre and the Conservatives.
d) It diverts from the very real economic problems created by the Liberal/NDP government.
An excellent blog article:
“Trudeau pretends to resign”
https://x.com/greencrow12/status/1876402557750538678
Carney will be another hubris motivated librano mistake not unlike Dion/Ignatieff. He might be a world class banker but he has zero demonstrated political skills. In the cut and thrust world of federal politics he will be miles out of his comfort zone. Could he even address the nation in a manner Canadians could follow, or want to? Has anyone ever called him names? Yelled at him? Told him to FO?
Bankers don’t run countries. They are sometimes asked for their opinion on a financial topic that they may have some expertise in. Freeland was supposed to have a depth of financial wizardry.
If you think that bankers don’t run countries, then you haven’t read “The Creature from Jekyll Island” by Edward Griffin about the foundation of the US Federal Reserve and the history of centralized banking. It is a long read, but worth the perspective.
“world class banker?” All he really did was print tons of money and devalue two national currencies
He’s certainly a world class bureaucratic infighter to get where he got but I’m not sure if this translates into success in elective politics
I’m tired of hearing about this or that person – i.e., Mark Carney – be reverentially described as being “smart” as this were some sort of magical quality that obviated everything else.
I’ve attended a few fancy schools with “smart” people, as well as a few less than fancy places and I wish I could say the opposite – because it would justify my expensive education – but I know of no direct correlation – NONE – between one’s being “smart”- defined as an ability to perform well on tests – and one’s having any political – or other – sense whatsoever. Not infrequently, the reverse is true.
Characterizing someone as “smart” may play well with some of the cheap seats (and diehards who would vote Liberal even as they were being led to the gas chamber – more than a few Canadians), but the closer you get to actual centers of power and leadership, the more you realize that frilly educational credentials barely matter, and that the higher up the ladder you go, the more removed you are from the actual Real World and the more you live in a bubble, surrounded by sycophants, yes-men and other assorted lackeys. Carney disappeared up his own fundament years ago.
I’m not in the prediction business but I would not at all be shocked if Carbon Tax Carney tuend into Ignatieff 2.0
And the info that Ezra has on Carney (pix with Ghislain Maxwell) will be ignored by MSM and Low Information voters will love him for his looks
Is Carney dumb enough to want to lead the Liberals at this time?
Says it all right there.
That’s literally jumping from the fry pan int the fire.
Unless his WEF buddies have a way to spin the election his way???
Says it all right there.
That’s literally jumping from the fry pan into the fire.
Unless his WEF buddies have a way to spin the election his way???
Are we all being played?
“Is Carney dumb enough to want to lead the Liberals at this time?”
That’s the real question, for sure. Perhaps after the next election he might take a chance on it.
I am worried you are correct, but despite Carney’s support of the WEF, Modern Monetary Theory, the UN and the global warming fraud, may realize that if he runs right now he will be the next Ignatieff or Kim Campbell and may wait it out for the Liberals to lose this years election before considering any political ambitions.
Mark Carney isn’t the golden boy youve been led to believe.
The Libranos want a clean slate. Someone who is distanced from the current government.
I think everyone understands something is evil with Epstein and Maxwell.
Here is Carney and his wife hanging out with Ghislaine Maxwell.
https://x.com/AndrewJWHaynes/status/1876438998446666055?s=19
Ahh…you beat me to it!!
But not ‘everyone understands’.
Let’s see what the media, CPC and Carneys fellow Librano combatants tagged in that post do with the info.
My guess is they’ll provide enough info to make Carney waver and reconsider his aspirations.
Will Trump release the list and explain to the American public what the significance is.??
A Slavic languages journalist hss been ruunibg the country ever since Butts was forced to hide over another unpunished scandal. Trudeau has not finished presiding over the ruination of this Country. Trudeau cannot be trusted to do the right and honorable resignation for an immediate election, nor should people trust those Canadians who voted for the Liberal Party THREE times in the the obvious face of deeping fiscal crisis to do the right thing for once when we finally do get an election.
I am worried that we may find that their democracy no longer needs old fashioned constructs like elections. Think zelensky in ukraine. His mandate ran out last May and he is still around.
Liberals will allow non-citizens resident in Canada to vote in the leadership race.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-leadership-foreign-interference-risk-1.7424035
So who does Xi want as leader? Carney?
The Liberals will even allow 14 year olds to vote for leader.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/liberal-rules-mean-non-citizens-could-be-choosing-next-pm
That’s because the Drama teacher needs fresh students to hit on each year.
anyone over the age of 14 can vote for a new liberal leader, so the almost 10 million that Justin has brought into the country since 2015 will probably vote for their choice. It is not going to be pretty
It never fails to amaze me the astounding pessimism of the Canadian Conservatives. Now there have been cases in the past where we’ve been let down but it the end, it shouldn’t matter in the larger picture. We will get sullen if our chosen rep doesn’t meet exactly, every ideological point we believe and then stay home and not vote. We tend to lose, because the socialists will vote for an axe murdering pedophile if they claim to support abortion.
You must be young.
That pessimism you refer to is what boomers call experience.
68, and its been around for ever.
I did the same sad calculation as Robert did: too many fellow Canadians will see Carney as a viable leader and sweep all the Liberal dirt under the rug. He will distance himself from the scandals while the dirt in his past and present will be hidden. The outcome: at best, a minority Conservative government (and don’t trust Singh’s emergence of a backbone). The writing is on the wall – literally. In OctoberI toured the Canadian Museum of History in Gatineau and in the panels on the 2008 market crash, the hero who saved Canada from a worse outcome was… Mark Carney, then BoC governor. Not a word about the exceptional work of the pm at the time Steven Harper. The deck is already stacked.
Please tell me that you are not THE Denise Reaume – and if you are, you certainly had a Saul-on-the-road-to Damacus-style political conversion/re-awakening! Was it Covid that did it?
Perhaps you could help bring a chapter of the Federalist Society to one of more Canadian law schools
Eric – I am a Denise Reaume, but I suspect not “THE” Denise Reaume to whom you refer. Are you THE Eric Strauss from ABC News? I suspect not.
I lost the bet that Justin would call an election, but I think we are in uncharted waters. He is still PM, he is full of himself, there is no accountability to anyone, so….
We shall see how skilled Carney is politically as the support that trudeau has today are not Carney types. After the sunny ways mindset drama teacher, I wonder if Carney can pull that off to even win the leadership
I imagine the question for Carney is whether or not he is willing to take the chance of sitting it out for 4 years on the opposition bench in that Romper room known as question period should his Party be defeated. I’m inclined to think not.
However, if the ‘fix’ is in and he’s guaranteed a win then perhaps.
One shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that Canada is the holy grail of natural resources that is the envy of many a foreign power …. being discounted by a naive and foolish population too witless to appreciate what they have and what could be.
As to Trudeau leaving … well I wouldn’t bet the farm on it just yet.
yet once again, we get to see the results of our abysmal public education system/MSM tag team, with our activist legal establishment and unhindered immigration backstopping their unholy alliance. The majority of Canadians would most certainly qualify as “low education voters”; indeed it’s hard to see how they could be anything else. It’s difficult to imagine why but a leadership race between Freeland and Carney seems most likely. The CBC, despite their best efforts , manages to show Joly as incompetant every time foreign affairs is reported on, so her candidacy is questionable.
The closing sentence of ac’s comment tells us exactly what is wrong with Canada. Well said!
Carney is young enough to wait a few years to take over the Libs and lead them out of the wilderness, let someone else suffer from Trudeau (and all libs) failures. He’ll make lots of noise, but sit this one out.
Will Jaggie and the Blocheads (60’s band name?) actually vote no confidence in the mini-budget in March and cause an election? Don’t know but don’t think so. Multiple prorogues until fall, it will be an October election.
Will the Libs actually move a fast leadership race? Will the caucus meeting Wednesday change anything? Doubt it, they’ll try to hang on as long as possible to try to improve their ratings. Anyone leading this party is dog meat.
So for now, Trudeau keeps being able to use the company jet for party politics (vacations, thinking school spring break in the Bahamas). MSM keeps trying to pump up the Libs. Jaggie goes on a tearing rant but doesn’t do anything useful. The Bloc keeps stealing as much as they can. Ontario early election dies.
What Order in Council hell will we deal with in the meantime? Libs hate for Trump will affect us bigly.
Guilbeault losses it completely without being able to move his agenda forward.
addendum: The GG will continue to follow Lib orders and not do her job protecting Canadians from the Gov’t abuses.
She will continue to use the company jet and credit cards for events and vacations. We won’t be able to tell the difference between the two.
Grumps – he is going to wear that jet out. As for the NDP, after some reflection they will realize that an election will leave them with much less influence than they now enjoy. I expect miraculously they will find common ground with the new Liberals. Would not surprise me if the October election date is postponed. Who can have an election in a crisis?(negotiations with Trump) . And he has not resigned.
Mark Carney will be 60 this spring, meaning he’ll be 64 for the 2029 electoral cycle. That’s only young by American political standards. Both Martin & Chretien were out of office before they were 70. You have to go clear back to Pearson to find a PM who was in office past 70.
First the premise
The liberals follow certain unwritten rules, one being alternation between a francophone and anglophone leader (other demographics need not apply)
The LPC is currently working through the dilemma of having a rule that requires the leadership contest to be a minimum of four months. The dilemma being that if they hold to that rule they won’t have a leader in place by March 24 when Parliament resumes. It appears that all opposition parties have clued in (yes even the NDP) and have given notice that when parliament resumes they will be voting no confidence. Due to the fact that the first order of business is a speech from the throne that would mean Trudeau would be the one dictating to the yet determined leader what they will be campaigning on. Or, it could mean that if the government falls before the next leader is chosen the liberals go into the election without a leader, or stop the leadership race and let Justin have another kick at the can.
Faced with that prospect the LPC is now forced to shoehorn someone of their choosing into the leadership that is ready to campaign on day one.
That means they can’t risk putting someone in the leadership that has no experience campaigning, so that means Carney is out.
Then they need a familiar anglophone name on the ballot which means LeBlanc, Champagne and Joly are out as well.
Then they have to decide to go with a sitting MP or someone that needs to win a seat. This is important because the NDP may resort to propping up the government to avoid an election again which would then keep the new leader from becoming PM until they can win a seat in the House.
That being the case, this leaves Freeland as the one they will try to convince liberals is the new messiah.
Here is a Grok image of Chrystia as Dr. Strangelove though despite the request for there to be a glove only on the right hand, it put gloves on both hands.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge8HmpRWQAA7JKB.jpg
Or how about a picture of her as Ilsa? Thank goodness Grok did not try to expose her chest as in the movie posters.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeeVylmWcAAuTmf.jpg
Even if Carney were to win the LPC leadership his skills as a political campaigner are unknown. My suspicion is that he would have trouble relating to the average voter since his career has had him talking only to professional people about macro economics not about the bread and butter issues that concern most of us.
I think the average voter sees Carney as a chilly con man.
If elected, I know I can trust the libs to keep breaking things.
If elected, I know I can’t trust the cons to really fix anything in any meaningful way.
The con. platform in Canada can be summed up as “Please, sir, eat me last”, with the vague hope that they’ll be dead before getting eaten.
The leader of the liberal party is irrelevant!
It’s the voters- STUPID.
Many of whom are noncitizens bused to the polls (along with citizens to falsely vouch they can vote), to illegally vote for the Libs and Dippers.
I think 1st, we need to understand what Blackie did, Gad Saad has a very good recent clip of JT’s greatest hits:
https://youtu.be/49n4kFjmvmU?si=fULPYh4WA7w7cx-_
Invasion of Chinese UFOs. Why else is #ThePony still clinging to his PM office? Hoping for a Hail Mary endzone run from #WinnieThePooh.
But they’ll still lose because the UFOs are made of Chinesium.
Is Carney the Demarais candidate? They have a horse in every race – sometimes two.
Isn’t it time for a woman to lead the libranos? It is 2025 afterall. Freeland sees herself as a candidate. She isn’t well liked by the other mean girls in cabinet tho.
And what about big Mel? She for sure is a Demarais gurl. She has aspirations.
It won’t be a CC – Carney Coronation. The trenches are full of candidates who have ‘put in their time’ toiling tirelessly. Their ‘talents’ unrecognized. They feel entitled and resent an outsider being parachuted in to take over.
A dog fight might be brewing. Libranos typically don’t wash the laundry in public but after 10 years of the Bong all bets are off.
Freeland will likely fight hard for the leadership so ita not a sure thing. If Carney wins, the media will be plumping him hard. But the media is no longer listened-to by Millennials and younger (for whom the name “Carney” has no associations anyway). The media may be listened-to, but is not trusted, by Gen-X. So that leaves Boomers, who would have voted Lib anyway, regardless of Leader. So, I don’t think that Carney will be the saviour the Libs are looking for.
One thing long overdue is a big Thank You to the freedom convoy. They truly lit the match that led to this long awaited ousting of Trydeau. The response of the Liberal Party to the truckers was to drop the mask, and all (most) saw the Liberals for who they truly are.
Absolutely!!! Which is why I the final Reader Tips of 2024 shared this video:
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/02/06/the-great-canadian-freedom-convoy
Sasha Trudeau will be the next leader.
Robert, now do this with what’s next for conservatives (not to be confused with CPC). What should concerned liberal (freedom minded) people be doing? Is there something we can do to get a government that’s not going to be bought off by backroom bandits?
Okay…..here’s my wet dream.
Regardless of who is at the helm, the Liberals eke out a majority win in October and Sask/Alberta go their own way by Christmas….or maybe Groundhog Day.
I suspect pretty much any other outcome will be a variation of the status quo.
A fella can dream, right?
Where do they win their majority, and with what do they eke it out?
Of course, they may be relying on the CBC to stoke hysterical fear, and thus eeek! out a victory…
People are tired of the Liberals. Doesn’t matter if is Carney or some other fool leading them. Government falls at the end of March , election in mid April. CPC wins giant majority. It’s not that complicated.
Carney first has to survive the rough and tumble of the Liberal leadership contest, and that is in no way a given. His previous experience doesn’t include fights in the mud, and definitely doesn’t include fights in public. I give him at best a 30% chance of coming out of that on top.
And the new media – that is, X/Twitter – doesn’t appear to be sold on him, and will absolutely enjoy making his life miserable. Now, the same can be said for the other possible Liberal leadership candidates, but they are more used to it than he is.
And the demographics are against him, as well: the feminists of a certain age are getting up there in years, and, in voting terms, will be outnumbered by those who see this identity politics fixation as BS.
Carney will never be Prime Minister.
And, of course, I still think the Liberals, as a party, are gone for a generation, anyway.
I find it endlessly amusing how the left of center parties across the world besmirch middle to old aged, straight white males as the source of all their problems but when they find themselves in trouble, always turn to a middle to old aged, straight, white male. See Joe Biden, Keir Starmer and now Carney.
My take for what it is worth.
US Tariffs coming towards the end of January. Parliament is shuttered until March 24, leaving no one to address the Tariff issues. Two months of tariffs should pretty much destroy what is left of Canada’s economy, not to mention run away sky rocketing inflation. Trudeau and his media will proclaim that Trudeau is the only hope we have to save the Country from Trump. He will be staying on as party leader and a fall election will be all about Trudeau saving democracy from Trump. Looks to me like a Trudeau/Mary Simon, smoke and mirror show to keep the Turd in power.
Personally, I would like to see Canada become the 51st State or join the Republic of North America.
Never under estimate the stupidity of the average Canadian vote. Also never overestimate that level of intelligence.
From afar it seems like a possibility. I regret to say this as it reflects poorly on Canadians.
Blarney Carney spent 13 years at Goldman Sachs; so by association he’s a tenured thief and con man well equipped to obfuscate all the missing monies and keep the grift going. “Not ready” didn’t succeed so… get to it.
Observing commercial real estate in Canada is like watching (the movie) “The Big Short” run well over 120 minutes without a conclusion. Best rip off the Band-aid now, or not….
Shlt, get out, save your province(s) from impending doom. (SA, AB, NW, YK)
I thought AdScam should have ended the Liberal party, so I have no idea what the idiots in the East will do. I’m hoping the equivalent of Kim Campbell runs for the Liberal leadership.
Does Carney have the same mindset that Jim Prentice in Alberta had? Prentice never wanted to be leader of the opposition and his quick exit proved that. The conservatives have such a lead, would Carney risk going through all that only to be left as leader of the opposition?
Carney has been advising Trudeau for a while. If Carney does go for it Poilievre needs to connect him to the current Liberal cabal and ding up his outsider facade and still plant the idea that he is Just Visiting.