BBC- Boeing 737 Max 9: United Airlines find loose hardware in jet inspections
It was this part of the Alaska Airlines plane which dramatically fell off mid-flight over the US state of Oregon, eventually landing in a teacher’s back garden.
BBC- Boeing 737 Max 9: United Airlines find loose hardware in jet inspections
It was this part of the Alaska Airlines plane which dramatically fell off mid-flight over the US state of Oregon, eventually landing in a teacher’s back garden.
The sky is falling!
Praise the government for forcing diversity hires on critical industries!
(Yes, that is sarcasm.)
There is an opening or two at Boeing.
L – What percentage of airliners are run by software, which if “flawed”, does not allow pilots
to over ride said software and fly the plane manually?
Are bolts inspected by robots, too? Inspected by affirmative action hires to pass federal
regulations based on Critical Race, Gender, Trans Theory?
On the other hand, if you wanted to scare the flying public into giving up air travel to
“save” the planet, (a pagan religious belief long known for sacrificing humans to
appease Gaia)… ?
Negligence or full mens rhea? There are so many bad actors, some of them overlap
roles in each others movie plots.
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“In late 2018 and early 2019, two of its aircraft were lost in near identical incidents, off the
coast of Indonesia and outside the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa.
A total of 346 people were killed. Both crashes were caused by flawed flight control
software, which ultimately forced the planes into catastrophic dives, despite the best efforts of the pilots.”
“– What percentage of airliners are run by software, which if “flawed”, does not allow pilots
to over ride said software and fly the plane manually? ”
100%. Flying “manually” is not a thing. “Fly by wire” means that there is no direct connection between the pilot and the aircraft. There is no “backup” system that does not run by software. They have backup computers in case the main one dies, but the backup still runs the same software.
Gotta save all that weight. Fuel economy, you know. Save the planet, uh huh.
Up until 5 years ago, I was of the opinion, “If it’s not Boeing, I’m not going.”
Now there are constant stories of bad workmanship, dangerous designs, and an almost complete failure of quality control.
Loose bolts? Foreign Debris inside fuel tanks?
The incredibly stupid and murderous stall prevention system that grounded thousands of 737 Max airliners for over a year. Boeing designed a non overridable safety system that uses one (1!) single sensor to activate it! That system literally drove those two planes into the ground. 346 people died from an inadequate safety system design.
I was a controls engineer by trade. They could (SHOULD) have used the redundant attitude sensor in the opposite train, and/or synthesized data from other sensors to help make the decision to activate the attitude control system. That Boeing approved the system was murder, and it had 346 victims.
Worse they did not train the pilots on how to turn off the system and stabilize the aircraft.
Wanna bet these bolts were installed by ONE man on the Boeing Assembly line? I’m guessing his name is Rahmahd and his unHoly book told him to sabotage the infidels. And he probably spent time residing in the CHOP Zone …
If you don’t believe our country is filled with Trojan Horses … here to work for pennies on the dollar … such a deal … then you deserve to be conquered.
What I can’t figure out is why this door plug was designed so that it can fall out. All passenger exterior doors on commercial aircraft are designed so that they can not be opened in flight. Cabin pressure pushes the door into its frame, making it impossible to open at altitude. How did all the design checks and balances miss this for this door plug – which isn’t plugging anything?
That door is hinged at the bottom and has to move up to clear the pads that bear the pressurization forces, before it can open.
There are two bolts installed into the cam track that allows this. that is what safeties the plug door from opening. it is my suspicion they were not installed in the door in question. i have only seen pictures of the outer face of the recovered door, if a good picture of the backside of it exists, i could confirm my suspicions..
The lose bolts that were found were on aircraft with some time on them and aren’t exactly the same ones i am referring to, but are nearby.b
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfT5WJz-6s
38:40
It gets better – the cockpit voice recorder data was lost or rather “overwritten” if you’re using FAA language. Imagine that!
Kind of like the CCTV cameras near Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell.
What a farce.
With the advent of DEI I’m sure glad I don’t fly as much as I used to.
Overwritten is correct, the new digital recorders only have so much memory available, but with todays capacities, i agree, the record time should be increased.
The survivability requirements makes ruggedness a factor, have to ensure the recordings survive.. you can stop the recording by pulling the associated circuit breaker.
you can stop the recording by pulling the associated circuit breaker.
You’re absolutely correct…and pilots are required to pull those breakers upon landing.
But they didn’t. So there’s that.
Yes, its usually on the checklist under the “down and clear” section. There are also sometimes “event” buttons that the crew can push that marks a particular spot on the recording for later analysis, if the crew wants to highlight a particular occurrence. Some are connected to the landing gear squat switches, but the majority of the time, if the aircraft is running and the breakers are in, the recorders are recording.. There are also “erase” buttons on the control panel, but they are usually tied to the squat switches, so they are ineffective when the aircraft is in flight.
In recent news, it has been determined that the locking bolts for that particular ALaska Airlines plane were NOT installed. As the aircraft has only made a few hundred flights, they may have been left out from factory. There are many steps to working on an aircraft and in particular with regards to critical assemblies, like flight controls and doors etc. that usually require a number of individuals to check the job for completeness and quality, etc. plus and OK to close out the particular area before panels are installed, etc. so this was missed from the get go.
I have also heard that the loose bolts found in service on other airlines were due to the fact that the installed bolts were not of the correct length to engage the self locking features of the fasteners that they were installed into. Checking of the bolts used on things like flight controls, doors and windshields are CRITICAL to the safety of the aircraft and cannot be overlooked.
When did this aircraft come off the production line, compared to other aircraft with loose bolts on this door plug? If they are consecutive, then there is a reason to suspect sabotage…if there are weeks or months and other aircraft coming off the line in between with door plugs, it would lean more towards design or technical flaws. Also, no doubt Boeing would have records of who was doing that portion of assembly.
Also, what other bolts are loose on these aircraft, do we really think the Door Plugs are the only ones?!?!
Nope.
https://www.businesstoday.in/industry/aviation/story/boeing-issues-alert-after-a-bolt-with-a-missing-nut-found-in-737-max-411383-2023-12-31
You know, if one of my nuts were missing, I think I might notice.
If it’s not Airbus, I’m taking…the bus.
I’m thinking Airbus and Boeing may be past their best before dates. While dated, Airbus has issues also.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2005/mar/13/theairlineindustry.internationalnews
Most of my flying was for business but I got increasingly paranoid about flying after 9/11. Yes, irrational I know. After retirement in 2004, I flew occasionally for vacation trips. However, my paranoia got worse, and I haven’t flown since 2013. Lately I started watching the TV series ‘Mayday’, which focuses on plane crashes and near misses. Now I am guaranteed never to get on a plane again. I am ok with that. Don’t need to.