Milking consumers

I suggest we go one step further: simply close down supply mismanagement and end the marketing boards altogether.

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  1. “I suggest we go one step further: simply close down supply mismanagement and end the marketing boards altogether.”

    The mafia won’t let you. They own practically all dairy industrial operations outside Quebec. Canada’s captive market suits them just fine. It’s what allowed the mafia to take over in the late 1970s.

  2. The dairy cartel has no place in a supposed democracy.

    But of course we live in no such place – we only have the illusion of freedom here. Not only should the dairy cartel be illegal, Canadians should be allowed to drink milk that hasn’t had all the nutrients boiled out of it under the pretence of it otherwise being unsafe, also known as pasteurization, after the Roman Catholic who fathered the anti-scientific quackery of germ theory

    1. How exactly do you boil nutrients out of something? What nutrients have a lower boiling point than water?

      1. To be technical, boiling reduces milk’s nutritional value. Specifically destroying the vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.

        The dairy cartel spends a great deal of time pushing propaganda (“marketing”) that pasteurization doesn’t cause significant damage to the nutritional value of milk despite the undeniable fact that it most certainly does. Even they admit it, but claim it’s not as bad as you might think.

        Though that doesn’t stop many people from reflexively lashing out in their ignorance.

          1. Yes, it is. They have to replace some of the vitamins that were boiled away due to the unnecessary process they put the milk through. Which the consumer is forced to pay for. And the consumer has no choice in the matter b/c they have made it illegal for you to drink natural milk.

            Despite the fact that farmers and their friends and family routinely drink non-pasteurized milk with zero consequences.

            Consumers should be given the choice to drink whichever they so choose – no different than being able to choose whether or not to buy unpasteurized honey. Or choosing whether or not to buy produce that hasn’t been genetically modified or sprayed with chemicals.

            But of course if consumers were given a choice, along with the lower prices associated with food that hasn’t undergone unnecessary processes, they would largely choose natural food. And that is why those who benefit from the cartel will not allow Canadians a choice.

    2. Never heard of bovine tuberculosis, Watto? Or the host of other organic pathogens that live in cow’s milk? I suppose you are unaware that pasteurization has saved almost as many lives as small pox vaccine? It’s clods like you that give conservatives a bad name. And we might deserve it if we were as ignorant and viciously stupid as you.

      1. There are no shortage of bacteria and other elements harmful to people, though those risks are typically vastly exaggerated by those pushing their agenda on others, such as the incredibly weak case made for pasteurization. One could make the same argument that no one should be able to drink water unless it has first been poisoned with a host of chemicals, including chlorine and fluoride.

        Oh wait, they do.

        And like with pasteurization, they argue that because there exist places with water contamination, therefore all water must be poisoned on purpose.

        For your good…

        And no, the small pox vaccine did not save a single life. Quite the opposite despite the propaganda you were taught as a child. It has saved about as many lives as the Coronahoax vaccine.

        And it is Conservatives who are viciously stupid, cgh. Smart enough to realize those on the left are liars, but not smart enough to realize so are the fake-conservative parties on the fake right.

        1. Hmmmm…I don’t know Watto. After moving my money over to a CU…my investment manager told me a story of how when she was eight or nine and while on a class trip to a farm she drank unpasteurized milk which severely messed her up. 4 or 5 months in ICU and she still suffers from the effects of it today. She’s 30 something.
          Kidney trouble mostly.
          Kind of gave me second thoughts with respect to that topic. I suppose it’s a rare event but I sure wouldn’t want what she got.

          1. Fair enough – some people have horrible peanut allergies, and others develop severe allergies to shellfish in their 30s despite having no prior issues. Still others are lactose intolerant, can’t eat gluten, etc.

            But should the overwhelming majority be forced to adjust their way of life every time someone raises the, “If it only saves one, everyone else must…” argument? I got kidney issues from a bout of strep throat when I was younger. Now imagine if I was able to trace the cause to bacteria on a tomato that I ate in a sandwich, and as a result was able to force everyone else to only eat cooked tomatoes thereafter.

            That’s how ridiculous the pasteurization of natural milk argument is. If you don’t want to drink it due to the risk, that’s your choice. And to be 100% safe you can boil it – no different than boiling questionable water. But that s/b the choice we are all allowed to make.

  3. Get rid of the Canadian Dairy Corporation?

    Don’t you remember all the chaos caused by the elimination of the Canadian Wheat Board just a few short years ago?

    Neither do I.

    1. The comparison is weak. You are comparing wheat, a commodity that can be stored for an extended period of time, with another product that has a far shorter shelf life. The Marketing Boards were established in the late 1960s and early 70s in response to the grocers pitting one regions producers again another by flooding the market with produce sold far below the cost of production. This historical fact doesn’t mean system reform shouldn’t happen.

      1. How much does the milk marketing board cost consumers each year?
        How much milk is wasted each year, because the processing plants have met their plant supply quota?
        How much milk is dumped, because the farmers have exceeded their quota of production?

        1. Further, how much is the price of milk raised to enrich a handful of select dairy board members? Supply management was always a racket, and the excuse to justify its existence is as weak as the similar argument that maintains taxi cartels.

          There’s a reason why many Canadians shop across the border, and the dairy cartel is one of them.

  4. Why stop at dairy boards. Let’s make room for all who wish to attend medical schools. Universities should make room for them. Make internships available to all who qualify. Allow all MDs to practice medicine outside of the govt system. Do away with unions who control what workers may of may not do. Do away with the minimum wage. do away with subsidies to companies that govt knobs favor.

    Having said that, I tire of having the dairy farmers as the whipping boy to be dragged out as though they were the cause of all that ills Kanukistan. If the boards go, the govt will have to subsidize the industry because our farmers can not compete with the subsidized farmers all around us. We exported all our manufacturing jobs, so I guess there’s nothing wrong wiith exporting our farmers. We can trade green energy for everything we no longer make.

    Let free market capitalism reign. Get out of the way of entrepreneurs.

    1. Despite the predictions of perpetual doom-and-gloom the rural skies didn’t fall in New Zealand when they axed their ridiculous system.

    2. The following items are supply managed: dairy, broiler chickens, laying hens, turkeys and hatching eggs

  5. I used to get into arguments with Canadian socialists, but I digress, who defended and were proud to pay more for dairy products in order to keep Quebec dairy farmers rich and keep evil US butter out. Why bother? I moved to Wisconsin.

  6. Look no further than Lino Saputo to know why this continues. Who wants a new pair of (cement) shoes?

  7. I know folks that have milk cows to feed pigs.

    The market for healthy is very tiny.

    Cheaper faster food is all that matters because free healthcare is a Canadian value.

  8. Don’t forget the legal minimum price for milk.
    It’s fines & jail if you sell it below the cartel mandated minimum…

  9. If dismantling the Canadian marketing boards is important to you, your voting options are limited to the People’s Party of Canada.

    Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives have no problem with marketing boards. Former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer won the leadership because of Dairy Board financing. He even had the gall to drink from a carton of milk when he won the leadership. The fix was in.

    https://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2019/07/20/scheer-is-demonstrating-what-it-actually-looks-like-for-a-canadian-political-leader-to-be-utterly-beholden-to-a-special-interest-group/

    1. “If dismantling the Canadian marketing boards is important to you, your voting options are limited to the People’s Party of Canada. ”

      Already doing it, and for primarily that reason.

      “Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives have no problem with marketing boards. Former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer won the leadership because of Dairy Board financing. He even had the gall to drink from a carton of milk when he won the leadership. The fix was in.”

      The cartel is smart. They put most of their political donations into leadership campaigns, so they can be assured that they ‘own’ whoever wins.

      1. It’s what those who own both political parties do – offer the same deal to all of the false choices we’re provided at the voting booth – both on the overt left, and on the fake controlled-right.

        With the dairy cartel, it’s a smart use of a fraction of the money they’ve stolen from all of us through their scam.

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