Trudeau governs like a Bourbon. Totally Ancien régime.
C’est le Dauphin.
Worth viewing and sharing.
Thanks.
actually its the urban areas pillaging the rest of the country.
Wrong the urban areas are generating the vast majority of the wealth.
and that gives you the right to tell the rest of the country how to live and what to do? i wonder how long the “Urban” areas would produce “Wealth” when their power, water and food is cut off? wont that be fun.
Urban areas are where the educated and innovative go. With that comes the cultural and political power. If you want that power you have to engage urban areas and that means winning intellectual wars. Conservatism and the political right in general can’t do this and has given up on it which is why it’s getting buried six feet under.
Stunnedme sounds identical to AOC. aholoncrak.
Election in Spain tomorrow. The right and far right will win this election. 50 years of socialism gone.
Boy are you deluded. Urban areas would collapse in a matter of days if the “uneducated” to make it so.
I use university degrees as TP.
Actually, a large portion of the wealth claimed to be created in urban areas is actually just administered there. The actual wealth is created by the people in the mills, mines and farms. The cities just take that wealth, redistribute and consume it.
“The actual wealth is created by the people in the mills, mines and farms.”
Wrong. If that were true Russia would be a superpower, it is not. The Cities are where the future is made and you’re too ignorant to know that you’re ignorant of that.
“Election in Spain tomorrow. The right and far right will win this election. 50 years of socialism gone.”
Doubt it. Vox wants socialism for white people, the ‘center-right’ in Spain has been in power before with little long-term to show for it-because they are conservatives, and therefore bankrupt and devoid of actual principles.
What are the industries in the urban areas that generate the wealth?
Bingo, Wildman. Urbanization = dependency.
Urbanization = massive wealth creation. Deal with it.
There is no sector of society so preternaturally entitled as The Farmer.
Urban areas may HAVE food, but they DO NOT PRODUCE food.
UnMe – Poster person for STUPID.
Producing food is trivial. We could and probably should import all of it. We have no shortage of food.
Urban areas CONSUME the wealth. All the things we have come out of the ground or the sea. All of them. And those areas are not urban. There is no wealth apart from resource extraction somewhere, unless you count service industries, which still need physical resources to function.
The number of products made from oil is amazing, and until we shut the oil off the urbanites will not realize how much of their stuff comes from it. It’s not just gasoline and diesel and lubricants; it’s plastics, which are used extensively in that computer you so ignorantly use, and in all wiring insulation; it’s in the tires on every vehicle; pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, paints, adhesives, clothing of every sort (just try growing enough cotton and raising enough wool and leather to go around once oil is shut off); furniture, appliances, the list is almost endless. One only has to read history to see how people got by without fossil fuels and plastics. Life was a lot harder and a lot shorter.
Then there’s food. Grains of many kinds, vegetables, fruits, meats, legumes, all grown outside of urban areas. And all with the aid of oil and gas, too.
Out of the ground come metals of every kind, especially iron, copper, aluminum, gold, uranium, molybdenum, chromium, nickel; helium; the aforementioned oil and gas, coal, sulfur, salt, potash for fertilizer, sodium sulfate for soaps and detergents, diatomaceous earth for absorbents, sand and lime for glassmaking, limestone, soda, and aluminum compounds for the manufacture of concrete, and more. All well outside urban areas.
From the forests come lumber and plywood and wood chips to make paper and carboard and some forms of building siding, and cellulose insulation. From the lakes and the seas come fish and shrimp and lobster and crab. I can’t remember seeing any such places in cities. Do you?
The building you live in was made of stuff sourced outside the city. The food you eat, most of the electricity you use, the vehicles you travel in, the clothes you wear. No, the urbanites don’t create the wealth. They might refine it, but they sure didn’t extract it in the first place, and without it there would be no factory jobs, either. Or the white-collar administration jobs. Nothing. the cities would be vermin-infested places of poverty.
UnMe is as dumb as a post. He/she/it doesn’t understand the foundations of modern society. Probably because he believes himself to be “educated”.
Dan, Great post +++++. I take exception to only to the last sentence. “Cities would be vermin infested places of poverty”.
WOULD BE???? They already are!
Apologies to the rodent populations that also reside in them.
“There is no wealth apart from resource extraction somewhere”
Okay so you just plain flat out don’t know what ‘wealth’ is. Got it.
” All well outside urban areas.”
Yeah but the urban areas are full of the people who run this and come up with ideas for running it better. People > places
Seriously, what are you waiting for?
It’s not just the “west”. I grew up in Port Arthur Ont. (Thunder Bay) in the 40’s & 50’s. I can remember the alienation felt towards eastern Ont. As a British Columbian I feel no kinship to eastern Canada.
” I feel no kinship to eastern Canada”
Yeah, that’s why we’re all wearing black armbands.
But, but the carbon! You failed to mention how the equalization payments are going to keep Canada from warming twice as fast as the rest of the world.
As per the the National Post, 81% of Canadians would not vote for Trudeau but due to what the CBC giddily refers to as Liberal “Vote Efficiency” he would probably still win.
Great video. I rarely take the time to watch such a long video but I did.
Vote efficiency is a gimmick not a sound long term strategy. Honestly reminds me a lot of republicans bragging about how the senate and their gerrymandering will save them. It hasn’t and won’t.
UnMe – agree, and promising to eliminate 14% of Canada’s exports isn’t a sound long term strategy either. That’s crude oil and doesn’t include reductions in natural gas, finished product-hydrrocarbons or agriculture.
Vote efficiency is hardly a gimmick….in fact, it’s not about wide spread “fraud”, but focused fraud that can turn elections…..as we have seen in the U.S. and perfected by the Democrats.
There is no evidence of any such fraud.
If ‘the west’ wants to be independent it has to actually be different ie a place of individual rights. As is, Alberta imposes a cap on auto insurance premium increases and talks up mandatory drug treatment.
Western separatists also otherwise blew their most recent opportunity. Try again in 40 years, this time being educated urban intellectuals not yahoos.
Nah!!! We prefer to be yahoos with torches and pitchforks.
I like rural life. Freedom to build things, work on machinery and enjoy life without some annoying karen/kenny getting in your face about something trivial.
Also, less fear of getting mugged, having your car broken into, way fewer junkies and stores not having to lock up all their merchandise.
UCSP, Yup, me to!
As has been noted in a recent country song, “try that in a small town” .
Can you build an apartment building on your rural land? Or a factory?
You will be buried with them.
Bring it, tough guy.
How is no mandatory drug treatment working out for you urbans????
{WHOOOOOSH}
Screw the …educated urban intellectuals…. They are precisely what got us into this mess. Men in denim created this country. Men in suits have destroyed it.
Men in suits made it worth living in. Now we will replace you.
Bring guns. Lots & lots of guns…
“Urban intellectuals” got us riots, junkie infestations, crime ridden streets, decaying infrastructure, incomptent government and homeowners and businesses fleeing the cities and taking their tax revenue with them.
It’s time to try something different.
No they didn’t. Crime is far lower today than it used to be.
“It’s time to try something different.”
WTF does this mean? Letting peons run the country? No. Not happening. Know your place.
What you believe or do not believe does not change the facts.
“Crime is lower” because most of it goes unaddressed or even unreported, so is not recorded. That does not mean there is less crime; it means there is a lot that is not being caught. Police forces know well that a crook caught for his crime has at least ten other crimes behind him for which he was never caught or prosecuted.
Oh, yes. We Westerners all want to be educated urban intellectuals, just the like the folks running those urban paradises in TO, Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, Detroit, Chicago, NYC, and so on. You know, the places full of PHDs, but also homeless encampments and feces and the corpses of drug addicts.
Yeah, like that.
No thanks.
i am remined by a line from glenn close in dangerous liaisons: He is an intellectual. and like all intellectuals, he is intensely stupid.
The perception of Albertans’ as Yahoo’s is a myth perpetuated by eastern ignorance. According to Futurelearn: “Alberta Education, also known as Alberta’s Ministry of Education, is the governing body for Alberta’s schools. Alberta’s students are touted as the highest-ranked in Canada and its education system is often cited as one of the best in the world.
By some rankings, it’s been determined that if Alberta was its own country, it would be the second best out in the world, outranked only by Singapore in science.” https://www.futurelearn.com/info/futurelearn-international/canada-public-education-by-province
That is an education system built by Albertans and funded by oil money. From out west, Toronto looks like Canada’s Cleveland.
From out west, Toronto looks like Canada’s Cleveland
Detroit North.
A few points as I watch the vid:
1. I have no desire to ever travel east of the Man/Ont border again. However, I will make an exception to go piss on Pere’s grave;
2. Mulroney was about as conservative as Cretin’;
3. The federal gov’t has created an entire province of welfare bums;
4. Kaybeckers are not concerned about their place in Canaduh. It is firmly cemented;
5. The best way to shield Alberta from the Feds is to merely leave;
6. Alberta & Kaybeck have never seen eye to eye & never will. Neither did Quebec ever sign the asswipe known as the Consititution. So much for joining together;
7. Ah, yes, the old positive story of Canada’s contributions to two world wars. Precisely how many Kaybeckers signed up for that? As opposed to, say, the ROC?;
8. AB/SK have been making efforts since 1905. The Laurentian Elite have been milking us for billions since the start.
9. While none of this is news to me, it is interesting to see it compiled into a single resource. How anyone from the West can watch this & not have their blood pressure go up by 20 points is beyond me. Share it far & wide.
10. Unfortunately, Aaron Gunn never addresses one question he posed early on: “How long has this been going on?” Once again I refer to The Milch Cow, the cartoon first published in the Dec 15, 1915 edition of the Grain Growers Guide. A mere 10 years after joining confederation we already knew we were getting the shaft while Eastern Canada was getting the gold. For those of you who, 108 years later, think this Western exploitation will end with peaceful talks & kumbaya campfires, pull your heads out of your pretty asses & grab a klew. We are long past the time to grab pitchforks & rope.
So, whaddya gonna do about it?
I have no desire to ever travel east of the Man/Ont border again. However, I will make an exception to go piss on Pere’s grave
So, whaddya gonna do about it?
No. 1 is for wusses. If you’re taking the trouble to go all the way to the Devil’s country, make a real statement and drop a deuce.
Make the ghost of Turd Sr. mange de la merde.
Your points are dead on! Dumb Biker
The first shot is to use ” The Clarity Act” against the federal government! We would get this to pass in Sask. But not sure about Alberta!
The problem could also be our Supreme Court———they never explained what the 1 stood for! To leave a province needed 50% + 1.
The video was pretty good but the “lets just get along” conclusion seemed to undermine the prime message. The west has tried to “get along” and the structural, constitutional, and political impediments are weighted against it. All large nations should break apart into smaller and more socially cohesive units and weaken the dominant pathological trend of large authoritarian states.
A thought experiment question I’ve asked for many years is : If Alberta (or Sask) initiated a separation referendum, what are some positive message from the rest of Canada to convince them to stay? Not threats (we will landlocked you) or name calling (any version of you’re a stupid hick) or technical issues (currency for example).
A genuinely positive reason to stay that overcomes the unequal voice in the House of Commons and Senate, the unbalanced equalization program, a federal language policy that effectively excludes most western Canadians from public service and top jobs…and, of course, decades of federal government economic interference and abuse to gain votes in central and eastern Canada.
The only somewhat positive response was an appeal to our shared Canadian history but that fond nostalgia has worn thin in the presence of continual attacks and abuse from Ottawa.
A thought experiment: what are some positive messages from the rest of Canada to convince them to stay?
Let me take you back to the Quebec referendum in 1980. There were very few warm fuzzies persuading Quebecers to vote no. And this was even when the No side had the great and all-powerful Trudeau Sr., he of the “I AM Canada” propaganda cult. The emotion and patriotic fervour has always been on the Quebec side. There is little emotion appeal to the idea of “not a real country”.
The only compelling argument ever made to persuade Quebecers to “stay” within confederation was the money argument. “You’ll get as much as Alberta’s money as we can steal if you stay. None of it if you leave. Don’t be stupid.” It’s been a winning pitch two times already.
Both Trudeau and Mulroney after him campaigned on “Quebec Power” in Ottawa as the big incentive to remain “federalists”.
Can you see easterners persuading Albertans to “stay” by bribing them with Quebec’s money?
No, central Canada can not (will not?) offer the prairies money or political power unless they were extremely desperate.
I’ve sarcastically said before that Quebec separatism has an obvious “gimme, gimme” motivation while Alberta separatist’s motivation is clearly “Just stop this bullshit and leave us alone”
I’ve sarcastically said before that Quebec separatism has an obvious “gimme, gimme” motivation while Alberta separatist’s motivation is clearly “Just stop this bullshit and leave us alone”
That’s not sarcasm — that’s TRUTH!
Unfortunately in an eastern-dominated Trudopia, the bullshit always prevails. To make it stop, Albertans only have to say no. But Stockholm Syndrome is apparently too hard to throw off.
Exactly L.C.
Who makes the case for Confederated Canada?
I ,for one,say we have so little in common with the Urban East,that we must separate our affairs from theirs.
That an Independent West is unavoidable.
I too have noticed our berater’s can slander and insult,but never explain what greater wealth or beauty can be retained or created by continuation of The Confederated Fraud.
Per capita GDP is high in both Alberta and Saskatchewan. Even when compared to USA states, Alberta and Saskatchewan have a respectable ranking, considering how much Ottawa hobbles our economy in so many ways. Newfoundland and Labrador is the only other province not hovering near the bottom rung when compared to all of states and provinces in North America.
Near the conclusion of the First Ministers’ Conference that resulted in the Trudeau CON (ahem) stitution, Trudeau berated all present by failing to articulate a “vision” for Canada that transcended its constituent parts. “C’mon guys, where’s your sense of nationhood, is that all Canada means to you, a bunch of provinces?”
Bennett, Blakeney, Lyon all responded, “yup, that sounds about right to me; Canada is a collection of provinces”.
Trudeau hissed. But non-Trudeau cult observers of the moment noted significantly that Trudeau colossally failed to articulate his own vision. So much for the ever-vaunted towering intellect. Trudeau was nothing but a glossy put-up job by Power Corp. and the Family Compact (eastern corporate) Establishment.
Absolutely, LCB!
Also of note from the video….when “The Constitution” upholds antiquated advantages for the Laurention Elites, such as in the makeup of the SCOC or the Senate, this “Constitution” reigns supreme and must be upheld.
But when that same Constitution clearly outlines that control of their own resources belongs to Alberta and Sask, the SCOC simply says, “Sorry, times have changed.”
Interesting that some things in this Constitution are sacrosanct and others are just asswipe.
Also of note, although I can see why he kept to other areas, the video producer omitted the spite accorded the Trucker protest, which was not limited to the West, but had strong Western & rural roots.
Funny how that works, isn’t it? As I’ve said before, the Canadian Constitution is a worthless document. The only entity whose rights are protected is the federal Liberal government. All other rights for individuals, provinces and businesses are at the whim of the Liberal government and their judges on the Supreme Court of Canada.
That is correct LC.
Look guys. If you keep on being unme’s centerfolds, he’s going to die from CCCD (chronic choked chicken disorder). Think how bad you’ll all feel.
I have found no reasons for the West to stay in this mis-managed Confederation! The liberals and Quebec have destroyed any hope of salvaging this country! Premier Moe enact the “Clarity Vote” and let’s get our 50% + 1!!!! Time is in the essence!
The only reason Canada exists at all is because upper and lower Canada hated the Americans more than they hated each other.
I have been an Alberta separatist since 1980, when I recognized what “Canada” actually was and will forever be.
I have been an Alberta separatist since 1980
Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980 to open your eyes…
Could it have been a dark, cold night in February that still gives you nightmares?
“Well, welcome to the 1980s….!”
Those who in these comments are trying to make this an urban/ rural issue are playing right into the hands of the federal government. It is an east / west split and by quarreling among ourselves we are doing exactly what will cause us to lose . Look what has happened to the so called 600+indigenous nations. They can agree on nothing , cannot present a united front and allow the federal government to throw up their hands and declare the problems insoluble without a common front. For god sake people keep your eyes on the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is that all our governments are socialist and want total control of the populace by any means possible. Freedom requires the courage to say no and mean no by your refusal to comply with moronic government edicts or mandates.
V, this. In spades.
I’m meeting more & more people who are moving their lives (aka, being driven by the gov’t) underground: untraceable cash economy, swapping goods & services, making their own moonshine & beer, getting off the grid, buying & selling their own cigarettes, etc., etc., etc.
They can agree on nothing , cannot present a united front…
Really? They are agreeable & united enough to bilk Canadian taxpayers for billions of $$$ each & every time a sacred tree frog gets threatened. Or some other such calamity.
It might be an East/West split, but it’s also very urban vs. rural. Just look at Alberta’s election a month or two ago: A huge chunk of Calgary and pretty much all of Edmonton elected NDP MLAs, while the smaller cities, towns, villages, and rural areas voted UCP.
In BC, the citified southern third of the province reliably votes NDP, and because they vastly outnumber the rest of the population, they get their way. They also get the chaos and destruction that comes with socialism.
City folks simply do not understand (or care) where all their food, energy, and tangible goods come from. Those folks in the little places and in the wilderness make them, and if the little places get fed up, someone’s going to end up cold and hungry and scared.
I don’t think the argument is geographic. I think it is binary. Those who want and need big and bigger governments and those who don’t. This tends to become urban and rural because city folk tend to need more government to maintain their life style, while rural folk don’t. It is only a clear divide when the “how much government control of your life do you want ?” Question is applied.
Katie has nailed it. From the fake Trump supporters in Belleville to the troll that keeps mutating on this site, there is a push by the Trudeau government to divide Canadians in order to stay in power. Don’t get sucked in. Anger, over the top behaviour, and infighting is what they are trying to generate. Push back by calling out their ridiculous statements if you wish but having done that, don’t feed the troll.
Trudeau governs like a Bourbon. Totally Ancien régime.
C’est le Dauphin.
Worth viewing and sharing.
Thanks.
actually its the urban areas pillaging the rest of the country.
Wrong the urban areas are generating the vast majority of the wealth.
and that gives you the right to tell the rest of the country how to live and what to do? i wonder how long the “Urban” areas would produce “Wealth” when their power, water and food is cut off? wont that be fun.
Urban areas are where the educated and innovative go. With that comes the cultural and political power. If you want that power you have to engage urban areas and that means winning intellectual wars. Conservatism and the political right in general can’t do this and has given up on it which is why it’s getting buried six feet under.
Stunnedme sounds identical to AOC. aholoncrak.
Election in Spain tomorrow. The right and far right will win this election. 50 years of socialism gone.
Boy are you deluded. Urban areas would collapse in a matter of days if the “uneducated” to make it so.
I use university degrees as TP.
Actually, a large portion of the wealth claimed to be created in urban areas is actually just administered there. The actual wealth is created by the people in the mills, mines and farms. The cities just take that wealth, redistribute and consume it.
“The actual wealth is created by the people in the mills, mines and farms.”
Wrong. If that were true Russia would be a superpower, it is not. The Cities are where the future is made and you’re too ignorant to know that you’re ignorant of that.
“Election in Spain tomorrow. The right and far right will win this election. 50 years of socialism gone.”
Doubt it. Vox wants socialism for white people, the ‘center-right’ in Spain has been in power before with little long-term to show for it-because they are conservatives, and therefore bankrupt and devoid of actual principles.
What are the industries in the urban areas that generate the wealth?
Bingo, Wildman. Urbanization = dependency.
Urbanization = massive wealth creation. Deal with it.
Urbanization = no food. Deal with it.
We have plenty of food. The world has no shortage of food. There’s so much of it that entitled farmers demand it be kept out of their countries: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/five-european-countries-will-extend-ban-on-ukraines-grain
There is no sector of society so preternaturally entitled as The Farmer.
Urban areas may HAVE food, but they DO NOT PRODUCE food.
UnMe – Poster person for STUPID.
Producing food is trivial. We could and probably should import all of it. We have no shortage of food.
Urban areas CONSUME the wealth. All the things we have come out of the ground or the sea. All of them. And those areas are not urban. There is no wealth apart from resource extraction somewhere, unless you count service industries, which still need physical resources to function.
The number of products made from oil is amazing, and until we shut the oil off the urbanites will not realize how much of their stuff comes from it. It’s not just gasoline and diesel and lubricants; it’s plastics, which are used extensively in that computer you so ignorantly use, and in all wiring insulation; it’s in the tires on every vehicle; pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, paints, adhesives, clothing of every sort (just try growing enough cotton and raising enough wool and leather to go around once oil is shut off); furniture, appliances, the list is almost endless. One only has to read history to see how people got by without fossil fuels and plastics. Life was a lot harder and a lot shorter.
Then there’s food. Grains of many kinds, vegetables, fruits, meats, legumes, all grown outside of urban areas. And all with the aid of oil and gas, too.
Out of the ground come metals of every kind, especially iron, copper, aluminum, gold, uranium, molybdenum, chromium, nickel; helium; the aforementioned oil and gas, coal, sulfur, salt, potash for fertilizer, sodium sulfate for soaps and detergents, diatomaceous earth for absorbents, sand and lime for glassmaking, limestone, soda, and aluminum compounds for the manufacture of concrete, and more. All well outside urban areas.
From the forests come lumber and plywood and wood chips to make paper and carboard and some forms of building siding, and cellulose insulation. From the lakes and the seas come fish and shrimp and lobster and crab. I can’t remember seeing any such places in cities. Do you?
The building you live in was made of stuff sourced outside the city. The food you eat, most of the electricity you use, the vehicles you travel in, the clothes you wear. No, the urbanites don’t create the wealth. They might refine it, but they sure didn’t extract it in the first place, and without it there would be no factory jobs, either. Or the white-collar administration jobs. Nothing. the cities would be vermin-infested places of poverty.
UnMe is as dumb as a post. He/she/it doesn’t understand the foundations of modern society. Probably because he believes himself to be “educated”.
Dan, Great post +++++. I take exception to only to the last sentence. “Cities would be vermin infested places of poverty”.
WOULD BE???? They already are!
Apologies to the rodent populations that also reside in them.
“There is no wealth apart from resource extraction somewhere”
Okay so you just plain flat out don’t know what ‘wealth’ is. Got it.
” All well outside urban areas.”
Yeah but the urban areas are full of the people who run this and come up with ideas for running it better. People > places
Seriously, what are you waiting for?
It’s not just the “west”. I grew up in Port Arthur Ont. (Thunder Bay) in the 40’s & 50’s. I can remember the alienation felt towards eastern Ont. As a British Columbian I feel no kinship to eastern Canada.
” I feel no kinship to eastern Canada”
Yeah, that’s why we’re all wearing black armbands.
https://apisbd.com/the-top-7-richest-provinces-in-canada/
But, but the carbon! You failed to mention how the equalization payments are going to keep Canada from warming twice as fast as the rest of the world.
As per the the National Post, 81% of Canadians would not vote for Trudeau but due to what the CBC giddily refers to as Liberal “Vote Efficiency” he would probably still win.
Great video. I rarely take the time to watch such a long video but I did.
Vote efficiency is a gimmick not a sound long term strategy. Honestly reminds me a lot of republicans bragging about how the senate and their gerrymandering will save them. It hasn’t and won’t.
UnMe – agree, and promising to eliminate 14% of Canada’s exports isn’t a sound long term strategy either. That’s crude oil and doesn’t include reductions in natural gas, finished product-hydrrocarbons or agriculture.
https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-commodities/crude-oil-petroleum-products/report/canadian-crude-oil-exports-30-year-review/#:~:text=Between%201990%20and%202019%2C%20the,Canada's%20total%20exports%20in%202019.
Vote efficiency is hardly a gimmick….in fact, it’s not about wide spread “fraud”, but focused fraud that can turn elections…..as we have seen in the U.S. and perfected by the Democrats.
There is no evidence of any such fraud.
If ‘the west’ wants to be independent it has to actually be different ie a place of individual rights. As is, Alberta imposes a cap on auto insurance premium increases and talks up mandatory drug treatment.
Western separatists also otherwise blew their most recent opportunity. Try again in 40 years, this time being educated urban intellectuals not yahoos.
Nah!!! We prefer to be yahoos with torches and pitchforks.
I like rural life. Freedom to build things, work on machinery and enjoy life without some annoying karen/kenny getting in your face about something trivial.
Also, less fear of getting mugged, having your car broken into, way fewer junkies and stores not having to lock up all their merchandise.
UCSP, Yup, me to!
As has been noted in a recent country song, “try that in a small town” .
Can you build an apartment building on your rural land? Or a factory?
You will be buried with them.
Bring it, tough guy.
How is no mandatory drug treatment working out for you urbans????
{WHOOOOOSH}
Screw the …educated urban intellectuals…. They are precisely what got us into this mess. Men in denim created this country. Men in suits have destroyed it.
Men in suits made it worth living in. Now we will replace you.
Bring guns. Lots & lots of guns…
“Urban intellectuals” got us riots, junkie infestations, crime ridden streets, decaying infrastructure, incomptent government and homeowners and businesses fleeing the cities and taking their tax revenue with them.
It’s time to try something different.
No they didn’t. Crime is far lower today than it used to be.
“It’s time to try something different.”
WTF does this mean? Letting peons run the country? No. Not happening. Know your place.
What you believe or do not believe does not change the facts.
“Crime is lower” because most of it goes unaddressed or even unreported, so is not recorded. That does not mean there is less crime; it means there is a lot that is not being caught. Police forces know well that a crook caught for his crime has at least ten other crimes behind him for which he was never caught or prosecuted.
Oh, yes. We Westerners all want to be educated urban intellectuals, just the like the folks running those urban paradises in TO, Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, Detroit, Chicago, NYC, and so on. You know, the places full of PHDs, but also homeless encampments and feces and the corpses of drug addicts.
Yeah, like that.
No thanks.
i am remined by a line from glenn close in dangerous liaisons: He is an intellectual. and like all intellectuals, he is intensely stupid.
The perception of Albertans’ as Yahoo’s is a myth perpetuated by eastern ignorance. According to Futurelearn: “Alberta Education, also known as Alberta’s Ministry of Education, is the governing body for Alberta’s schools. Alberta’s students are touted as the highest-ranked in Canada and its education system is often cited as one of the best in the world.
By some rankings, it’s been determined that if Alberta was its own country, it would be the second best out in the world, outranked only by Singapore in science.” https://www.futurelearn.com/info/futurelearn-international/canada-public-education-by-province
That is an education system built by Albertans and funded by oil money. From out west, Toronto looks like Canada’s Cleveland.
From out west, Toronto looks like Canada’s Cleveland
Detroit North.
A few points as I watch the vid:
1. I have no desire to ever travel east of the Man/Ont border again. However, I will make an exception to go piss on Pere’s grave;
2. Mulroney was about as conservative as Cretin’;
3. The federal gov’t has created an entire province of welfare bums;
4. Kaybeckers are not concerned about their place in Canaduh. It is firmly cemented;
5. The best way to shield Alberta from the Feds is to merely leave;
6. Alberta & Kaybeck have never seen eye to eye & never will. Neither did Quebec ever sign the asswipe known as the Consititution. So much for joining together;
7. Ah, yes, the old positive story of Canada’s contributions to two world wars. Precisely how many Kaybeckers signed up for that? As opposed to, say, the ROC?;
8. AB/SK have been making efforts since 1905. The Laurentian Elite have been milking us for billions since the start.
9. While none of this is news to me, it is interesting to see it compiled into a single resource. How anyone from the West can watch this & not have their blood pressure go up by 20 points is beyond me. Share it far & wide.
10. Unfortunately, Aaron Gunn never addresses one question he posed early on: “How long has this been going on?” Once again I refer to The Milch Cow, the cartoon first published in the Dec 15, 1915 edition of the Grain Growers Guide. A mere 10 years after joining confederation we already knew we were getting the shaft while Eastern Canada was getting the gold. For those of you who, 108 years later, think this Western exploitation will end with peaceful talks & kumbaya campfires, pull your heads out of your pretty asses & grab a klew. We are long past the time to grab pitchforks & rope.
So, whaddya gonna do about it?
I have no desire to ever travel east of the Man/Ont border again. However, I will make an exception to go piss on Pere’s grave
So, whaddya gonna do about it?
No. 1 is for wusses. If you’re taking the trouble to go all the way to the Devil’s country, make a real statement and drop a deuce.
Make the ghost of Turd Sr. mange de la merde.
Your points are dead on! Dumb Biker
The first shot is to use ” The Clarity Act” against the federal government! We would get this to pass in Sask. But not sure about Alberta!
The problem could also be our Supreme Court———they never explained what the 1 stood for! To leave a province needed 50% + 1.
The video was pretty good but the “lets just get along” conclusion seemed to undermine the prime message. The west has tried to “get along” and the structural, constitutional, and political impediments are weighted against it. All large nations should break apart into smaller and more socially cohesive units and weaken the dominant pathological trend of large authoritarian states.
A thought experiment question I’ve asked for many years is : If Alberta (or Sask) initiated a separation referendum, what are some positive message from the rest of Canada to convince them to stay? Not threats (we will landlocked you) or name calling (any version of you’re a stupid hick) or technical issues (currency for example).
A genuinely positive reason to stay that overcomes the unequal voice in the House of Commons and Senate, the unbalanced equalization program, a federal language policy that effectively excludes most western Canadians from public service and top jobs…and, of course, decades of federal government economic interference and abuse to gain votes in central and eastern Canada.
The only somewhat positive response was an appeal to our shared Canadian history but that fond nostalgia has worn thin in the presence of continual attacks and abuse from Ottawa.
A thought experiment: what are some positive messages from the rest of Canada to convince them to stay?
Let me take you back to the Quebec referendum in 1980. There were very few warm fuzzies persuading Quebecers to vote no. And this was even when the No side had the great and all-powerful Trudeau Sr., he of the “I AM Canada” propaganda cult. The emotion and patriotic fervour has always been on the Quebec side. There is little emotion appeal to the idea of “not a real country”.
The only compelling argument ever made to persuade Quebecers to “stay” within confederation was the money argument. “You’ll get as much as Alberta’s money as we can steal if you stay. None of it if you leave. Don’t be stupid.” It’s been a winning pitch two times already.
Both Trudeau and Mulroney after him campaigned on “Quebec Power” in Ottawa as the big incentive to remain “federalists”.
Can you see easterners persuading Albertans to “stay” by bribing them with Quebec’s money?
No, central Canada can not (will not?) offer the prairies money or political power unless they were extremely desperate.
I’ve sarcastically said before that Quebec separatism has an obvious “gimme, gimme” motivation while Alberta separatist’s motivation is clearly “Just stop this bullshit and leave us alone”
I’ve sarcastically said before that Quebec separatism has an obvious “gimme, gimme” motivation while Alberta separatist’s motivation is clearly “Just stop this bullshit and leave us alone”
That’s not sarcasm — that’s TRUTH!
Unfortunately in an eastern-dominated Trudopia, the bullshit always prevails. To make it stop, Albertans only have to say no. But Stockholm Syndrome is apparently too hard to throw off.
Exactly L.C.
Who makes the case for Confederated Canada?
I ,for one,say we have so little in common with the Urban East,that we must separate our affairs from theirs.
That an Independent West is unavoidable.
I too have noticed our berater’s can slander and insult,but never explain what greater wealth or beauty can be retained or created by continuation of The Confederated Fraud.
Per capita GDP is high in both Alberta and Saskatchewan. Even when compared to USA states, Alberta and Saskatchewan have a respectable ranking, considering how much Ottawa hobbles our economy in so many ways. Newfoundland and Labrador is the only other province not hovering near the bottom rung when compared to all of states and provinces in North America.
Link to North America rankings.
https://twitter.com/GasPriceWizard/status/1680818535579123713
Who makes the case for Confederated Canada?
Trudeau certainly didn’t.
Near the conclusion of the First Ministers’ Conference that resulted in the Trudeau CON (ahem) stitution, Trudeau berated all present by failing to articulate a “vision” for Canada that transcended its constituent parts. “C’mon guys, where’s your sense of nationhood, is that all Canada means to you, a bunch of provinces?”
Bennett, Blakeney, Lyon all responded, “yup, that sounds about right to me; Canada is a collection of provinces”.
Trudeau hissed. But non-Trudeau cult observers of the moment noted significantly that Trudeau colossally failed to articulate his own vision. So much for the ever-vaunted towering intellect. Trudeau was nothing but a glossy put-up job by Power Corp. and the Family Compact (eastern corporate) Establishment.
Absolutely, LCB!
Also of note from the video….when “The Constitution” upholds antiquated advantages for the Laurention Elites, such as in the makeup of the SCOC or the Senate, this “Constitution” reigns supreme and must be upheld.
But when that same Constitution clearly outlines that control of their own resources belongs to Alberta and Sask, the SCOC simply says, “Sorry, times have changed.”
Interesting that some things in this Constitution are sacrosanct and others are just asswipe.
Also of note, although I can see why he kept to other areas, the video producer omitted the spite accorded the Trucker protest, which was not limited to the West, but had strong Western & rural roots.
Funny how that works, isn’t it? As I’ve said before, the Canadian Constitution is a worthless document. The only entity whose rights are protected is the federal Liberal government. All other rights for individuals, provinces and businesses are at the whim of the Liberal government and their judges on the Supreme Court of Canada.
That is correct LC.
Look guys. If you keep on being unme’s centerfolds, he’s going to die from CCCD (chronic choked chicken disorder). Think how bad you’ll all feel.
I have found no reasons for the West to stay in this mis-managed Confederation! The liberals and Quebec have destroyed any hope of salvaging this country! Premier Moe enact the “Clarity Vote” and let’s get our 50% + 1!!!! Time is in the essence!
The only reason Canada exists at all is because upper and lower Canada hated the Americans more than they hated each other.
I have been an Alberta separatist since 1980, when I recognized what “Canada” actually was and will forever be.
I have been an Alberta separatist since 1980
Gee, I wonder what happened in 1980 to open your eyes…
Could it have been a dark, cold night in February that still gives you nightmares?
“Well, welcome to the 1980s….!”
Those who in these comments are trying to make this an urban/ rural issue are playing right into the hands of the federal government. It is an east / west split and by quarreling among ourselves we are doing exactly what will cause us to lose . Look what has happened to the so called 600+indigenous nations. They can agree on nothing , cannot present a united front and allow the federal government to throw up their hands and declare the problems insoluble without a common front. For god sake people keep your eyes on the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is that all our governments are socialist and want total control of the populace by any means possible. Freedom requires the courage to say no and mean no by your refusal to comply with moronic government edicts or mandates.
V, this. In spades.
I’m meeting more & more people who are moving their lives (aka, being driven by the gov’t) underground: untraceable cash economy, swapping goods & services, making their own moonshine & beer, getting off the grid, buying & selling their own cigarettes, etc., etc., etc.
They can agree on nothing , cannot present a united front…
Really? They are agreeable & united enough to bilk Canadian taxpayers for billions of $$$ each & every time a sacred tree frog gets threatened. Or some other such calamity.
It might be an East/West split, but it’s also very urban vs. rural. Just look at Alberta’s election a month or two ago: A huge chunk of Calgary and pretty much all of Edmonton elected NDP MLAs, while the smaller cities, towns, villages, and rural areas voted UCP.
In BC, the citified southern third of the province reliably votes NDP, and because they vastly outnumber the rest of the population, they get their way. They also get the chaos and destruction that comes with socialism.
City folks simply do not understand (or care) where all their food, energy, and tangible goods come from. Those folks in the little places and in the wilderness make them, and if the little places get fed up, someone’s going to end up cold and hungry and scared.
I don’t think the argument is geographic. I think it is binary. Those who want and need big and bigger governments and those who don’t. This tends to become urban and rural because city folk tend to need more government to maintain their life style, while rural folk don’t. It is only a clear divide when the “how much government control of your life do you want ?” Question is applied.
Katie has nailed it. From the fake Trump supporters in Belleville to the troll that keeps mutating on this site, there is a push by the Trudeau government to divide Canadians in order to stay in power. Don’t get sucked in. Anger, over the top behaviour, and infighting is what they are trying to generate. Push back by calling out their ridiculous statements if you wish but having done that, don’t feed the troll.