The Nuclear Theory You Never Knew Was Nonsense
In 2018, I was asked to submit a paper and make a presentation on the fraud of LNT to a joint meeting of the American Nuclear Society (ANS) and the Health Physics Society (HPS) on low-level radiation hazards and risk management. I was asked because the organizers of the meeting knew that I was critical of LNT radiation biophysics — I thought it was a crock.
LNT says there is no safe level of radiation exposure, but obviously, the better rule is the rule of Paracelsus: “All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes that a thing is no poison.” (The dose makes the poison.) No threshold of LNT throws that maxim out the window.
My negative attitude about LNT was nurtured by a twenty-plus-year interest in the work of Ed Calabrese, U. Mass Amherst, reigning expert on low-level radiation hazards and the theory of heresies that asserts a tri-phasic effect of exposure of all kinds — 1) a no effect level, 2) a beneficial effect at low exposure levels, and 3) a toxic effect at higher levels of exposure. My medical experience with drug effects shows that same hermetic diphasic effect — drugs have a sweet spot between no effect and toxic effect.
h/t PG
As with all things nuclear, the hysteria will continue until we abandon it. Hormesis was well known 40 years ago but is conveniently forgotten or censored. Low levels of radiation have been correlated with decreased mortality. Our immune systems didn’t evolve in a toxin free environment and to put them in one is a good way to destroy them through lack of stimulation and memory suppression. It’s always the dose that counts. Even water is toxic at the right dose.
John C
Radiation saved my life.
And as to your immune system bit, and that is why the “lockdowns” were so destructive, doctors should have known better, but were probably bought off, or intimidated. So one has to wonder if that also contributes to the increase in post SCAMdemic death rate increase?
I’d go several steps further and posit that nuclear theory is nonsense.
This applies both to nuclear weapons and nuclear reactors.
This takes a while to swallow because the first reaction to it is incredulity. But it would be helpful to look at the footage of the various early nuclear tests, and notice that the realism of the explosions is only moderately better than Godzilla claymation.
As for nuclear reactors, they transmit power through electrical lines. But few pay attention to them also being fed by electrical lines. It would be possible for them to simply be electricity holding stations. Which would then make a lot of sense why they are only found in certain areas of the countries in which they are found. And why there is always a reason to oppose them being built outside of those areas.
And nuclear reactors are among the most secretive places where one can work. Workers are very much silo’d to only knowing their piece of the puzzle and being unable to interact outside of that silo. This is supposedly due to the security and secrecy of the nuclear plant – though that would also be the reason to keep anyone from discovering questions they can’t answer.
But accepting this theory opens a large, dark door as to who would propagate this myth, and why.
Step away from the bong and loosen your tin foil hat, Francis.
Sounds like someone has been into the Kool- aid.
How many nuclear physics courses at the university level have you taken …. ZERO …. I thought so.
One of the most enjoyable courses I took on my way to my BSc Geology was nuclear physics and we learned about the US reactors, CANDU reactors and the Soviet ( ie chernobyl ) reactors. Quite simple at an elementary level but the devil is in the details.
I am always amazed when someone throws out such stupid thoughts in a public forum but as Einstein is suppose to have remarked “stupidity is infinite but I am not sure about the universe”.
Ever see a cloud chamber? Every high school worth the name has one. That’s enough to blow your “theory” out of the water.
Nuclear Engineer (BS and MS), nuclear plant worker, accident modeler (thermal-hydraulics, neutronics), dispatch modeler, supply side contract pricer, wholesale deal structurer, etc.
A nuclear plant is quite the ruse. I’ve been in and around 10 of them. Greatest scam ever pulled on a gullible public.
Coolest power engineering thing I’ve ever been in and around however is large scale pumped storage. Now convincing the public and the regulator to let you build that thing and earn a return on it. Amazing.
The other cool thing is standing on the turbine deck at a 5 unit coal station. It’s like looking in a fun house mirror as the horizon disappears into a single point. On the turbine deck.
Watto
Yes, I saw those lines running into Pickering Nuke station, a Rabbit showed me them bc they ran through his HOME!
I think a few too many BUTT lite is yer problemo!
Slightly off topic, but still one of my favourites.
Years ago at O’Hare airport I saw a group of pro-nuclear power protesters carrying a sign:
“More people have died in Ted Kennedy’s car than in nuclear power accidents in the U.S.”
I have always liked that one … thanks for the refresher 🙂 …. Ted Kennedy was a F’en snake!!
Its a bumper sticker in the USA: “My guns have killed less people than Ted Kennedy’s car.”
My mom drove a baby blue 1972 Caprice Classic.
I gave her a bumper sticker she proudly stuck in the window of her car in 1991: “Another environmentalist for Nuclear Power.”
Given that there is constant background radiation in the environment, and given that cosmic rays have been falling on Earth since it condensed, it is -ridiculous- to assume there is no safe level of radiation. Humans evolved from the first single cell in the presence of radiation. We are literally made to tolerate it.
But, it is no surprise to see “scientists” touting this ridiculous theory. Currently we have “scientists” proclaiming there is no safe level of combustion smoke from fires. And they’re saying that about Humans, the creatures that evolved with fire as a constant companion. We’ve had fire longer than we’ve been Homo Sapiens.
I would guess, absent confirmatory measurements, that there is probably a -beneficial- dose of wood smoke. Doesn’t stop the liars from lying about it though, does it?
Most worldly issues that slide into total prohibition or total compulsion as their cheerleaders expertly arrived at options, have minimal science and maximum leftist politics behind them. Also helps to keep the support propaganda in sharp focus.
Sgt
“Also helps to keep the support propaganda” AKA $$$$$$$!
The curious case of Taiwan’s radioactive apartments.
If everyone had died we would have heard more about it:
“In the early 1980s in Taiwan, recycled steel that had been contaminated with radioactive cobalt-60 was accidentally used in the construction of more than 180 buildings. These buildings included 1700 apartments as well as schools and small businesses. More than 10,000 people lived and worked in those buildings over the subsequent twenty years. This contamination was gradually discovered, beginning in 1992.”
https://kenfromottawa.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/a-radioactive-apartment-building-in-taiwan/
“Individuals in Denver, Colorado, have a background radiation exposure that is more than three times (3x) higher than the average background radiation dose in the United States (Denver = 10 mSv/year, US Average = 3.1 mSv/year), but they do not have a cancer incidence rate that is 3x the US average. In fact, individuals living in Denver, have a cancer incidence rate no different than the rest of the US population.”
https://junkscience.com/2023/06/emails-reveal-radiation-safety-establishment-tries-to-censor-blockbuster-debunking-of-the-lnt-and-cleanse-the-health-physics-society-of-lnt-critics/
4 out of 4 Jesuit priests survived ground zero of Hiroshima. So much so that they even went about helping others.
Weirdly, the damage in that city whose buildings were constructed almost entirely out of wood and paper showed similar damage to other cities that had been firebombed. Or simply cities that had great fires.
Chimneys made out of brick, or buildings with concrete fared very well.
And then the Japanese rebuilt both Hiroshima and Nagasaki without any issues of radiation poisoning. Many people suffered horrific burns, but these were then labeled “radiation” burns.
Reminds me of the Coronahoax, and all the deaths (entirely caused by the vaccines) being attributed to the Coronahoax.
Watto you are nuttier than squirrel turds,
Pics of Hiroshima https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ASUT_enCA665CA665&q=hiroshima&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjq4PrUkuT_AhWcAjQIHbiZCtIQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1366&bih=625&dpr=1
Good rebuttal Stewart. You may have me all turned around now that I’ve looked at the pictures, and compared them to pictures of other cities that burned with fire. Something you surely did before replying.
Now that I see the devastation caused by the nuclear attack on San Fransisco in 1906, I don’t know what to say.
Oh wait…
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VZaldjcliYY/Wi4dHuGo1OI/AAAAAAAAOu4/LGyi3Ni3Re09OjRo2xjgjU6i4SoOC_huACLcBGAs/s1600/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake%2B%252821%2529.jpg
Everyone commenting here is quite right. The naysayers should include the USDOE. Their own select expert committee BEIR (Biological Effects of Ionizing Radiation) produced a huge report in 1990 (Report V). The purpose of the report was to demonstrate the effects of low level radiation that was missing from the original 1956 hypothesis. Embarrassingly, they had to admit at the very end of the introduction that hundreds of research papers over the intervening 35 years had produced no evidence whatsoever. The full report is available on line so you can see their failure for yourself.
Try to sell a house around here without a “house inspector” recommending , first, radon testing and second, radon mitigation. We successfully avoided it but had a deal fall through over it.
These experts need to be asked if they eat bananas or brazil nuts, or fly commercial.
Three examples of natural background radiation.
The US Nuclear Power Industry has made ALARA (As Low As Reasonably Achievable) its main Radiation Safety Goal forever.
It is a very simple and measurable goal. Could it be improved on? Probably. But what is the safe level of radiation exposure?
And more importantly, what happens if they are wrong? What if the experts say it was X mRem/year, but it was 0.5X, or 0.1X mRem/year?
I worked for twenty years in Nuclear Power. I respect the dangers of large (acute) radiation exposure, and I think small doses are not inherently dangerous, and a lot less dangerous than accepted exposures like flying cross country at 40,000 feet twice a week. But what is *safe*? And does it matter if it’s all in one hour, or slow over six months?
If flight crews and citizens of Denver Colorado had statistically significant we’d know about it. higher disease rates than the rest of the population we’d know about it.
@rd – Agreed. I worked in a fairly small area directly adjacent to nuclear reactors at various powers during my 21 year career. “Millions of curies of death” right next to where I and my fellow nukes worked for all those years in reactor plants designed in the early to mid 1950s that operated for 35 years and more safely. I performed maintenance in the reactor compartment several times, went through a couple re-fuelings, did some very interesting special power testing that truly pushed the limits, went through a few “UH-OHs” that were pretty interesting. It’s the dose that’s problematic and all of us were trained, aware and monitored to minimize exposure (ALARA), and operated to prevent unintentional release to the outside environment. The average age of our crews was 22 to 23 years old; the cohort of folks operating these plants is thousands of these young folks over the years. The scares benefit the purveyors of the scare financially, politically, and publicly which is why the controversy continues to churn. And, as an aside, none of my six children conceived and born during that 21 year career has a hand growing out of their forehead, an extra leg, freakishly long fingers, cyclops eyes…
See “Radiation and Reason” by Professor Wade Alison for more detail on the LNT scam.
Where to start? I’m so disgusted by the state of science and education today, I’m not sure where to begin. So please forgive my rant.
First, I’m sick of the lies and bogus attempts to undermine any and every form of energy that’s not “Green” energy:
CO2 is destroying the climate! Ban fossil fuels!
Water trapped by hydroelectric dams is changing the wobble of Earth! Ban hydro power! Tear down the dams!
No level of radiation is safe! Ban nuclear energy now! Ban it forever!
Second, I’m angry at the intentional dumbing down of society by the people in charge of our education systems. People with decent science backgrounds know that the ‘science’ behind these attacks doesn’t meet even the most basic definition of “Science”. But thanks to our public education systems, only a small percentage of people receive a decent science education. And with each graduating class of socially promoted high school seniors, that percentage gets diluted year after year. Most of today’s high school graduates can’t make change. And most of today’s high school graduates believe the fear porn “climate models” are actually ‘science’, when in reality they’re simply programs designed to spit out whatever their programmers want them to. And it’s supremely annoying to see generations of young people who believe they’re smarter than everyone who came before them, when they’re actually less educated. They’re ignorant of a lot of important things they should have been taught, but weren’t.
Objectivity and the scientific method have been abandoned. Scientists across the board have been bought, (i.e. tow the line, repeat the required mantra, or you don’t get funding). And once respected journals are now controlled by political operatives / agenda driven zealots.
Meanwhile, anointed “Green” energy projects that will ‘save the planet’ are dismal failures:
Seismic surveys for offshore wind farms kill dolphins & whales by the dozens (oops, my bad – “Science” says ‘Climate Change’ is killing them). Completed wind farms kill untold numbers of raptors and bats every day. And solar farms, (which generate a drop in the requisite energy ocean compared to hydrocarbon or nuclear plants) produce only a pittance of what they promise.
We must constantly push back against non-scientific nonsense and the dumbing down of our society. If we don’t, it will destroy us in the long run and we will descend into an Idiocracy.
So please keep up the good fight, and thank you.