Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?

Existing interconnect with US

‘Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?‘ SaskPower holds open house in Estevan on $1 billion interconnect with US, solar and nuclear. The crowd was not at all happy.

This is real in-depth on what’s going on. Among the gems- we’re going to build up to 3,000 megawatts of wind and solar in Saskatchewan, stuff that totally fails on a irregular but frequent basis, and NOT build an accompanying 3,000 megawatts of natural gas generation to back it up for days (nights) the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.

And a related story – did you know that the 650 megawatt power interconnect, the one that’s the same size as coal-fired Boundary Dam Power Station, and will carry carbon tax-free power from the US, will cost us a billion dollars? It turns out the NDP SaskPower critic did the math, and she was correct.

35 Replies to “Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?”

  1. Brian worth asking sask power if they have studied the findings in Germany ? The germans have found solar and wind were not reliable and based their now power grids on “Clean Coal”! We never learn!!!

    1. Saskpower board and management are on a different planet than the rest of the province, I think trudeau is their neighbour. None of their decisions make much sense yet Moe does nothing to counter. Does he not understand or does he support them? Lots of tough talk about sask first yet many decisions are anything but.

    2. What kind of energy will we need to make steel once we off the gas and oil and nuclear – and how will be produce it. Also, there are those who are intent on taking down all the dams to allow nature to flourish while we starve in the dark.

      This whole climate thing is way over-blown and smart folks know it. It is the weak and gullible that allow these maggots to scare them into compliance. If we don’t start doing something about it soon, we are going to face lock-downs and worse.

      Over time the climate changes and we adapt. That is our strength .. we are adaptable.

      What we should be doing is insisting that China and India and a few others stop polluting the planet.

  2. It is all bullshit but, if we have to have it, carbon tax should be a consumption tax, not a production tax. What kind of moron decides we should tax Canadian production but not imports? A politician I guess. Why not tax the carbon produced by countries exporting goods to Canada? Their CO2 is good but ours is bad? Did I say it’s all bullshit?

    1. I have long known that the Carbon Tax is just another tax because the politicians cannot raise the income tax too much. It was NEVER about the climate but about adding to the government’s coffers.
      The recent Federal budget is a prime example of raising the carbon tax on April 1 but NOT cutting spending. Instead they are adding another $ 50 Billion to the deficit.
      I despair of the ignorance of most Canadians.

      1. “I despair of the ignorance of most Canadians.”

        Yes. But understand where it comes from: The television. They sit there and believe everything it tells them. Everything. And it’s obvious that the politicians also watch it and believe everything it says, because they base all their policies on it. All of them. On that Saskpower Board there are no electrical engineers or powerplant operators or physicists or meteorologists. Just people with tiny degrees in completely unrelated stuff. It’s like taking your car to McDonald’s to get it fixed. Or going to an accountant to get your appendicitis treated. It’s insane.

        1. Agreed Dan. If we were ever to try to take back this country from the tyrants in government, (all of them) the first thing we would have to do is destroy the media – All Of Them! Federal right down to local.
          The bureaucrats without their media voices spewing their unending lies would be powerless.

        2. The danger to Canada is not Justin Trudeau but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the job of Prime Minister. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Trudeau than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgement to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man as their Prime Minister in the first place.
          Canada’s problem is much deeper and much more serious than Mr. Trudeau who is a mere symptom of what ails Canada. Blaming the Prince of Fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their Prince. The country can survive a Trudeau, who after all is merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools who made him their leader and are contemplating doing so again on Monday.

          The comment is précis of a letter to the editor by – L. (Tex) Leugner.

          From a newspaper in Prague

    2. You need to eliminate carbon taxes in their entirety. If you want to regulate the lowering emissions then you provide incentives to business in the form of tax deductions for capital investment that lowers pollution. You allow a productive enterprise to keep more of its earnings in return for becoming more efficient. Taxing people in Saskatchewan to heat their homes in the winter is the moral equivalent of slapping a big tax on food because it arrives at the grocery store in a big truck. It’s more tax and spend, Liberal, garbage policy. Meant more to create an environment for them and their buddies to line their own pockets than do anything for the environment. If you want to fight for what you have, then stop earning. Avoid taxes at every opportunity, trade and barter wherever you can and pay cash for things.

  3. So a billion dollars divided by 13,000 (650MW per year for 20 years) comes to around $77,000 per Mwh.

    That seems a tad steep. What’s the price per Mwh currently?

    And what’s the price to build a highly efficient 650Mw/year natural gas generating plant?

  4. Never forget that the chief goal of the globalist is the Malthusian dream of population reduction. They want only 500 million people on the entire planet. So making energy expensive and unreliable for everyone will create death and disaster and achieve the goal while claiming the moral virtue of saving the planet from a non-existent, unsolvable problem called climate change. None of the population problems that were claimed by the false prophet Paul Ehrlich in “The Population Bomb” ever materialized, the population of countries around the world are dropping as people become wealthy and have fewer children, and none of the climate change predictions have ever come true, no matter which computer model they use. It is all based upon lie after lie after lie.

    1. For some strange reason “they” think they will be among the survivors, “they” will not.

  5. Dippers pretending to care. In reality, they are the scorpions that sting you 3/4 of the way across the river.

  6. “Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?”

    Ahhhhh. The question they won’t answer.

    And of course, when they won’t answer a question, they have in fact answered it.

    1. World wars were started, fought, ended, and entire countries rebuilt in less time than that one nuclear plant seems to be scheduled to take.

      Staggers the mind that it can take so stinking long.

  7. Sask Miner: “We pay the US $1B to lose our coal mining jobs, and they keep their coal mining jobs?”

  8. The elected officials of any province that permits or worse yet encourages food or energy shortages should be brought into the public square to be dealt with.

  9. A Fairy Tale of Canada
    Once upon a time in a northern Dominion called Canada, there was a thriving oil industry that provided fuel for vehicles, trains and airplanes. There was also a large natural gas industry that kept the people warm during the long cold winters and supplied the raw material for plants that manufactured plastics, detergents, fertilizer, synthetic clothing and a great many other items needed and used by people every day.

    That oil and natural gas industry employed more than a million people and its exports were the biggest contributor to the county’s international balance of payments. People working in the industry were proud that their operations were among the most technically advanced and environmentally responsible in the world.

    Then a report written by a scientific advisory group called the International Panel on Climate Change was published, stating that the earth was warming and carbon-dioxide emissions from burning ‘fossil fuels’ were the likely cause.

    And so, it came to be that lowering emissions of the very substance that plants need to breath in the same way as animals need oxygen, and that provides the fizz in soda drinks and the bubbles in champagne, became the world’s most important environmental priority.

    Suddenly, after fueling the world’s progress for centuries, oil, natural gas and coal became environmental pariahs. Eco-elves flew in from far and wide to proclaim Canada’s oil and gas industry a major contributor to global warming. But in the real world, the industry contributed just a small part of Canada’s emissions, and Canada’s emissions were only two per cent of global emissions.

    Nations of the world gathered together in the magical Kingdom of Japan and promised they would reduce the use of fossil fuels.

    But a decade later, fossil-fuel emissions had gone up, not down. So, world leaders gathered in the French Fifth Republic to once again pledge reduction of fossil fuels. But even as world leaders announced this pledge, three dozen countries, including two with more than a third of the people in the world, continued to build hundreds of new coal-fired power plants. Coal was already the biggest source of carbon dioxide and those new plants would raise coal emissions by another 40 per cent.

    That meant that, even if Canada were to disappear into stardust, its tiny share of global emissions would be replaced in a matter of months.

    Amazingly, these realities mattered not to Canada’s starry-eyed Prime Minister, who vowed that his little northern country would set an example to the world.

    His paladins imposed special taxes on the users of fossil fuel, creating hardship for the people while also weakening the dominion’s competitive position with its largest trading partner. The Prime Minister journeyed to the main oil and gas producing province, hoping to use his imagined charisma to convince workers worried about losing their jobs that ‘phasing-out’ their industry was necessary to stop global warming.

    People asked the Prime Minister what was to replace all that fossil fuel energy?

    He proclaimed that it would be ‘green energy’ generated by the wind and the sun. But the people knew that the wind only blew some of the time. And that, in this northern land with little sunlight during short winter days and none on long cold nights when energy is needed most, solar was useless.

    And the government had not learned from experience in a province called Ontario, where billions of dollars spent on green energy had yielded only small amounts of very expensive and unreliable power that needed back-up fossil-fuel power plants to prevent black-outs.

    The folly of relying on green energy was undeniable, but, alas, neither the eco-elves nor the Prime Minister took heed. Neither did they face the truth that trying to force down Canada’s already tiny global emissions would hamstring the country’s most important industry only to have its fossil-fuel production, and emissions, replaced by production from other countries.

    The Prime Minister and his paladins remained convinced their green dream would come true, if only they believed. So, this fairy tale of doing good for the world became a nightmare for this small northern dominion. Sadly, the rest of the world didn’t even care.

    The End (coming soon)…..By Gwyn Morgan is the retired founding CEO of Encana Corp.

    1. People asked the Prime Minister what was to replace all that fossil fuel energy?

      He proclaimed that it would be ‘green energy’ generated by the wind and the sun.

      All the while ignoring the fact that carbon-dioxide is what makes the world green.
      Thus, a coal fired power plant can be seen as producing “green” energy.

      Has anyone ever explained how the output of solar panels and windmills makes anything green?

      /and don’t try to tell me that carbon-dioxide is “CARBON”.
      //and don’t call me Shirley

  10. Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?

    Because they get paid regardless of results. To those who live in that world, their concern isn’t for the general good, it’s for how little they can do and still enjoy their perks and pay. Trendy, lofty notions feed their egos and make them feel superior to those of us who pay their way. Math is hard (truth and absolutes) and spoils the fun of running here and there, meeting important people, and building their resumé. To simply shrug their shoulders and not answer a direct question should embarrass them but it doesn’t , they are unaccountable, and they know it. Sadly, most of the sask party is displaying more and more of this attitude, in lots of places.

    1. It’s hard to criminally siphon off cash, and bribe and enrich allies and buy votes using existing infrastructure.

      Just ask Barack.

  11. Q: Why don’t you fight for what we have, and what works?

    A: Maybe because there are no assassinations anymore?

  12. Because it the fifth column, civil service, Gov Depts, etc, etc. They ALWAYS exist, regardless of elected politicians.

    They grow organically, expand, consume power and resources. AND are not accountable to anyone. Certainly not folks who pay taxes an vote. Politicians come and go, they stay put, heads down and quiet, then collect cheques, add staff, and happy happy times.

    Look at delivery staff vs admin or support staff ratio in Sask vs Alta or BC. We are public service heaven.

    Power costs through roof, living standards in toilet, our seniors struggling further every day. Money for immigrants, FNs, everyone except those who sacrificed, worked hard, saved, built a country. Just to watch it torn down.

    Oh Well, sad but true. Prepare, be ready, or emigrate to sanity. Our seniors unfortunately can’t, and that a tragedy.

    Just Sayin

  13. The Saskatchewan Party is basically the provincial Liberal Party. Prove me wrong. Not a true conservative in the bunch.

  14. Might better plant a lot of fast-growing trees in Saskatchewan right quick, in preparation for the day when the only alternative to failing and unreliable wind and solar is combustion.

    One has to wonder if the provincial budget is sufficiently forward-looking to prepare for the predictable and frequent need to replace the solar panels and wind turbines.

  15. The proposal to build the interconnect is outright admission that renewables cannot power the grid.

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