“$564 in Carbon Tax per month to run a not for profit assisted living home for 12 people. High efficiency boilers already installed. LED lights installed. Can we not get a rebate?”
They do offer a solution.
“$564 in Carbon Tax per month to run a not for profit assisted living home for 12 people. High efficiency boilers already installed. LED lights installed. Can we not get a rebate?”
They do offer a solution.
R ye woke?
Problem is, that all the very weak Premiers rolled over and accepted the Carbon Tax without a fight.
SK and Alberta need to shut down oil and gas going east until Carbon Tax is removed.
Notley even added her own Provincial Carbon Tax.
Take Trudeau down. We need a major Revolt against this commie garbage.
the very weak Premiers rolled over and accepted the Carbon Tax without a fight
Alberta always capitulates. It’s something in the glacier water. From Aberhart to Lougheed enjoying his French champagne with Lalonde over the PGRT, Albertan pols are sell-outs, hypocrites, and cowards.
They usually get re-elected, so one must assume that’s the way Albertans like their representatives.
Albertans like to bitch and whine, particularly when it comes to Kweebek, but the Pure Laine would never bend over and take it up the poop chute like Albertans do. The real Kweebekers look after number one and don’t give a damn about anyone else, you gotta hand them that.
agree totally
Watcher
As one who works in the Sands, and currently in the middle of a “21”, I could agree more.
Mofo deserves a Nuremberg Necklace, right alongside the entire Liberal caucus…and every Big City Commie Mayor.
But I’m liking my Electrical bill over the past few months…2
17.50 to 25.00
Thank you Danielle!!
I’m liking my Electrical bill over the past few months…217.50 to 25.00
the rebate is $50/mo. new scam?
Free stuff is expensive. Got to collect it somehow.
Have you considered a MAID … or two
I’d rather be driven to the train station.
Note the GST on the Carbon Tax!!!
My last Fortis home heating bill for $79, had carboon tax of just under $10. Ridiculous, tax being charged on the pipe itself, not the gas usage
Ridiculous, tax being charged on the pipe itself, not the gas usage
I was told once by my provider, who at the time was owned and led by the same person who built a world-class equestrian centre with the profits from his utility monopoly, (he was an FOL, or friend of Lougheed), that a portion of my gas bill was dependent upon the variability of barometric pressure during any given billing period.
I note nowadays the detailed breakdown of my bill includes so many fees and administrative charges that the cost of the product itself is only a small fraction. “Access fee”. Why must I pay a fee every month for the privilege of their product “accessing” my property?
That’s a 58.4 % tax on their gas consumption.
My home consumption tax sometimes reaches the high 60s %
And then turn the knife in the wound and ad 5% gst on the carbon tax.
What kind of money is going into government coffers without any overview?
Id be more curious on the money going out without any overview
Government’s real goal is to net zero your net worth.
If you’re lucky.
“Government’s real goal is to net zero your net worth.”
THAT’S A KEEPER!
Sid V
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I too may use that as well..!!
Nick – I like that. Can I use that?
Thank you Sid, and PHP2 by all means spread the word!
BTW in my home town today there was a group lined up alongside the Trans-Canada Highway with ‘Justin Trudeau Has To Go’ placards and similar messaging. Way more than a fringe element were honking their horns in approval as they drove by.
I might put that on a fckn T shirt!
Kate: Don’t hold your breath…
“We pinned them down on this (global-temperature increase) hiatus… they were arguing that yes, there might have been a hiatus, but warming might be going into the ocean, or it could be due to volcanic activity. So we asked at what point would you begin to accept there had been no warming. If there is no warming for five years, or ten years? “
Finally they conceded they would wait fifty years.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/07/washington-post-less-warming-but-worse-impacts-on-the-planet/
If supposed increases in the temperature of the planet are being absorbed by the oceans, then I can heat the water in my bathtub by turning up the thermostat in my home. I encourage everyone to try that, and let us know how it goes.
If your bath tub water is cooler than the air temperature in your bathroom then yes you can. Leave the water there long enough and it will reach the air temperature. Fill the tub with hot water and it will heat up the room temperature. Funny that.
And then they will cool to an equilibrium temperature.
It is which medium has more temperature. It’s not what is hotter or colder. For a tub to warm up a room, the room has to be small. That’s why a nail heated white hot will not warm the water in a tub.
How can any actual scientists accept the goalpost-moving idea of the oceans being heat sinks (or other things they have come up with for reality not matching their computer models) when the rest of their data set (meaning all the past temperature records) don’t take those things into account?
They are outright admitting that climate “science” has nothing to do with the scientific method specifically, or science in general.
Bring the suffering.. Bring the failure.. I have no desire to play political games with psychopaths.. Why I’m expected to save them from themselves is not a game I’m willing to play anymore.. Bring it..
Twice I sent a copy of this excessive taxation to my opposition MP without a reply.
Guess any opposition to the religion of global warming will ruin their credibility.
What tropical island is Al Gore residing on these days?
What tropical island is Al Gore residing on these days?
Obama built one of his palatial mansions right on the shore of the Atlantic, and the other in the Pacific. He’s not worried about rising tides. Of course, he did say when he got elected we would all look back and say that was the moment the earth stopped warming and the oceans stopped rising.
The subjects, a.k.a. sheeple, will continue to bend over. “Dear Leader promised maybe some free stuff.”
Turdhole said everyone is getting more money back from the carbon dioxide tax than they pay. What is the problem?
Anyone know the name of the “not-for-profit”?
Also, that $600 is nothing compared to what is being charged to farmers (and by extension everyone else).
Basically if you heat with natural gas in Canada you’re not-for-profit.
The Federal Carbon Charge was taxed. Is it a good or a service?
I began losing friends and relatives a number of years ago when I tried to explain to them that the carbon tax was nothing more than a money grab by the government and that we’d all be paying the costs. “Nothing of the kind they said, only the big polluters would pay.” They couldn’t understand that the big polluters would pass on their costs to their consumers. They also couldn’t understand that the little polluters would pass on their costs. So here we are today all getting screwed because Libs/Dips/and Greenies have no earthly idea how an economy works. On the brighter side the Libs/Dips/and Greenies were the first to line up for the jibbity-jab and even after countless warnings they still line up for the booster. So hopefully we’ll eventually reach the turning point where those of us who understand and work toward a producing economy will outnumber the Libs/Dips and Greenies that are trying to drag us back to serfdom.
Just remember everyone that Quebec pays significantly less for their carbon tax. I’m serious.
and many Quebecers use hydro electricity and not natural gas to heat their homes.
They’re heating their homes with a electrical dead short directly caused by flooding Indian artifacts. Part sarc
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And they power their cars with unicorn farts? No, Dear Leader specifically lowered the per tonne levy for Quebec.
Hydro Power produces more methane and co2 than COAL. Why is this not understood.
Even the UN states this in their reports.
Shut down Quebec Hydro. Trudeau should be told this everyday.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7046-hydroelectric-powers-dirty-secret-revealed/
Don’t forget that Q Beks hydro sales to New York, billions of $$$, is not used in the transfer payment calculations.
Every mol of carbon present in Saskatchewan’s annual produce (lumber, grain, oilseed and so on) should be credited back to the province at the same rate.
We have been led over 30-40 years into a new and replacement form of taxation – the taxation of life and the good things we are blessed to have. Fascist governments, realizing that the “old” order of taxation is not working for them anymore, have to “reset” the whole system for “our own good”. Their corporate partners are happy to comply as the new order is ushered in.
I’ve always loved the trick of putting GST on another tax, as if the second tax was somehow either a “good” or a “service.”
Unless of course, they mean “service” as in “bend over, we’re about to service you.”
STEVE SMITH would be proud.
The original plan was for the carbon tax to be hidden, until companies started realizing they didn’t want to get blamed for the increase in prices…
Still waiting for the oil and fuel companies to catch on
The Eloi believe that their masters are saving the planet so will continue being happily herded into poverty and vote accordingly. IOWs, they are voting for suicide with an incurious mind and that’s the way the statists and global sociopaths like it. MAID is just a fast track to saving the planet. Perhaps that’s why the sociopaths feel the need to replace them with socialized immigration.
I’m still not clear on where the money collected for the Federal Carbon Charge goes. Does anyone have a concise explanation for how this collection is applied. All I can ever find is that certain individuals are eligible for a CAIP payment. Those recipients are determined by the Revenue branch of the government based on filed tax returns. I can not nail down the criterion used to disseminate the funds.
Is this described in detail somewhere? It this a vague, non-committal and highly aloof process that allows the government to fund (subsidized) “alternative energy” ventures with political cronies that always seem to fail?
Something I asked myself this morning. Found this on Sask Power’s website…yes, I know Sask Power and Sask Energy are separate entities but it’s a Provincial scheme so I’m assuming Sask Energy is doing the same. Not entirely sure.
Where does this money go?
We don’t keep any of the carbon tax collected. We’re required to submit all carbon tax revenue collected during 2019–2022 to the Government of Canada.
On November 22, 2022, the federal government approved Saskatchewan’s proposal for an updated Output-Based Performance Standards (OBPS) program, which now includes electricity generation. As a result, the 2023-2030 carbon tax revenue we collect will be paid to the provincial government, effective January 1, 2023.
The provincial government is developing the mechanism to reinvest these funds back into Saskatchewan.
Why can’t SaskPower just pay this tax and not pass it on to customers?
Our 2022 emissions payment is estimated at $180 million. The cost will continue to grow as the annual cost per tonne increases and emissions thresholds decrease. That would mean less to invest in our province’s power system to ensure reliable and sustainable power for our customers.
We’re committed to reducing greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50% from 2005 levels by 2030. We’ll get there in several ways, including increasing the renewable generation capacity in our system. However, the transition of our power system to lower-emitting generation sources will take some time.
Any government that justifies its actions by saying that CO2 is a thermostat for the earth is an enemy of individual rights and freedoms and is assisting the subjugation of humanity.
CO2 is life. Period.
One of the first things any government that supports individual rights and freedoms must do, is to make illegal the tracking of individual hydrocarbon usage.
Yup…vague, non-committal and highly aloof. They are collecting funds…pushing them to the government (who admits not having a policy or apparatus in place to apply those funds).
In short…it’s merely a money collecting scheme where the money will be applied to a wealth of unrelated entitlement programs that can best be leveraged politically.
And here I was trying to be less cynical.
I don’t blame Trudeau, I blame the premiers and provincial governments for this. Saskatchewan is shutting down coal fired plants with no replacement in the wings. The Saskparty is mostly liberals that have stuck to the federal line saying they can’t stop it,naturally you can stop it. If that attitude was in WW2 we would be speaking German or Russian. The politicians of today have no courage nor responsibility for their constituants. The federal govt. is acting like a scammer that fleeces old people in their homes,which is happening in EVERY HOME IN Canada today. Forget the off shore scammers, Ottawa is worse because you have to pay Ottawa,you don.t have to pay offshore ones.
They pretend carbon tax is enacted to encourage behavior that produces less CO2. The reality is that carbon tax is a tax on behavior that can’t be modified without severe personal or financial disaster. It’s like a tax on food to encourage people not to eat food. Has there ever been a leader stupider than Turdeau, I mean other that his father.
Controlling people through food a la a hereditary dictatorship …
Why does that sound familiar?:
https://www.history.com/news/north-koreas-devastating-famine
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57507456
Scar – its worse than that – the carbon tax was created and established with the goal of tracking individual hydrocarbon usage.
That tech is now here.
Next phase is to ration usage based on the tracking of your consumption of hydrocarbons – everything will be assigned a number.
You will be assigned a CO2 allowance – that above usage will be deducted from.
I wish it was only a tax.
He who controls hydrocarbons controls the world.
the carbon tax was created and established with the goal of tracking individual hydrocarbon usage
This is the core principle of the original TECHNOCRACY ideology…measuring all global economic activity in terms of energy inputs and outputs, (rather than the current measure of national currencies as units of account).
When Elon’s grandpappy led the Technocrat Party in the Canadian general election of 1937 he got 733 votes, or 0.02% of all votes cast.
Since then, the technocracy propagandists like Trudeau-whisperer Maurice Strong have advanced light years in brain-washing sophistication.
the Canadian general election of 1937
CORRECTION: 1935
You don’t need a rebate, you need to vote in a government that doesn’t make you need to beg them for one.
How the fck do we do that when we’re outfcknnumbered?
Buddy, we are not outnumbered we are out f*****, because canadians are, wait for it…………………stupid.
a couple of years back i bought coal at Dodds mine near Daysland.Alberta. they loaded into bins , pushed the bins into my truck , closed my gate. full service , full half ton.
the carbon tax equaled the full service of the mine.
incidentally their largest customers were hutterites from Saskatchewan who bought 8 B trains at a time to run grain dryers. still the cheapest fuel .
and as an aside , we drove the forestry truck road from Rocky Mt. House to Hinton last summer , the road was full of the big haulers . heading to the train yard near coalspur. happy to see it was in business
Back in the day, my father heated with coal up to the 1970s – later in his shop. There was a coal mine at Egg Lake, north of St. Albert, Alberta. I doubt it is still open. Says it shut down in 2004. I think there was another one at Evansburg.
MAID, indeed.
Now is the time for Americans to point out that the Canadian healthcare system (the term used loosely) kills people for profit.
Yes indeed.
the Canadian healthcare system kills people for profit.
There is no such thing as profit or loss in a socialist system.
The Canadian health care system kills its patients because it wants to.
Gaia will be satisfied, when octogenarian virgins are sacrificed into volcanic pools of lava.
They could just as easily brought back Aztec ritual, of cutting out beating hearts offered to Huitzilopochtli.
I mean if you’re going to have a culture of death any mythical half wit god will do… 🙂
But the carbon tax will go on, in infamy…as a “silent killer”. The government prefers you return to carbon…
So who needs doctors to become assassins via MAID?
The government, needs MAID, as they’ve run out of YOUR MONEY!
This keeps the farcical myth of “universal healthcare” on life support; whilst the aged are offered the “EXIT PLAN” or more correctly the FINAL SOLUTION.
Just think of the government administrators as the new and improved Nazis, sans the double SS runes on their lapels.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st St Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Can I at least get the treatment Edward G. Robinson’s character Saul got in ‘ Soylent Green ‘ please.
I like ‘ The Four Seasons ‘ and let me see Bambi , plus green and water before I go to s l e e p……
As an added bonus with many of these very expensive high tech high efficiency boilers you get to be really friendly with service techs. Over the holidays I was doing snow removal at a facility for 5 days and I had to get them to move their van every single day. And yes they were working on the boiler. I have also seen similar results at homes I have worked at with smaller high efficiency boilers.
STUPID PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE TREATED AS STUPID PEOPLE. THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY.EXCEPT WAKE THE F**** UP.
AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Revenue Neutral, huh?
The best part of your Carbon Tax? You are paying a sales tax/ GST on the carbon tax too!
$630.00 Tax on a $1908 Total gas bill?
33% taxes on your gas utility bill?
$0.394 per 1,000 cubic meters?
$308 Tax on a $1770 Total Electric bill?
Wow! that 17.4% total taxes on the electric bill looks like a real bargain!
$0.18 per kWh. / $180 / MWh
Most US States give a sales tax exemption to non-profits and charities, if they file for one.