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What are Charest’s commitments to pulling an “O’Toole”?
Charest is a comedian like Zelensky. He will say and do anything. I wonder if he will play a piano with his o’tool?
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Always remember, Conservatives are like Groucho Marx, except totally unfunny:
“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them…well I have others.”
A CPC run by Charest will remain the stupid party, and thus as much an enemy of the Canadian people as the Liberal Party of Canada.
“A CPC run by Charest will remain the stupid party…”
Agreed, but I can’t help but wonder how much of that will be because of the Conservative MP’s themselves. Throughout this entire 2 year TGF, not a murmur of disapproval from any of them. The entire fleet needs to be replaced, lock, stock & barrel.
And, after all that is done, Western Canada will still be screwed. Separation is the only way. I could care less what happens to the Cons.
Shouldn’t the entire fleet be replaced bridge, funnel and rudder?
Probably, but I was on a roll. You know, like the German’s bombing Pearl Harbor.
What I was going to say was, shot with a ball of their own shit & pissed upon. Shoulda stayed with that…
And, after all that is done, Western Canada will still be screwed.
That’s always been the objective. Western Canada is to Ottawa what Taiwan is to China.
Thucy – DB
That right there is what totally Pisses and Pissed me off about these so called Conservatives…add in the standing “O” for Zelenski..? May as well all cross the floor for all the difference it would make.
Buddy is right when he calls them the UniParty. PERFECT description. Adding Charest is Laughable, they’ve shown they can fuck themselves up all by their lonesomes without his addition.
Pierre talks a lot but did SWEET FK ALL the past 2 years.
Leslyn Lewis would be my one and only choice. Black – Good Looking – Very Smart & Articulate as hell. She wouldn’t put up with any of Trudeau’s or his Propagandists’ Bullshit.
But like any election these days – it will have been already decided long before anyone casts a vote. BET ON IT.
Black and good looking. LOL
TTP: If Charest gets in as leader of the CPC the party will become the New Liberal Party. The Liberal become the new NDP and the NDP no more just like CPC party will not exist anymore. Canada’s gone down the toilet. Charest is CCP and Russian involved a Communist leader the easy way…..Xi tried with Trudeau and now is working with Charest. My thought.
My spidy senses are warning me that, if the media/pundits are all in for Charest, perhaps I should be looking elsewhere. The scorn and vitriol being heaped upon Poilievre is telling me he’s seen as a real threat to the current order.
Exactly!
“…a real threat to the current order.” Which is on it’s own something to hope for, but probably something for which we can only wish. If engaged by any CPC person canvassing or surveying I intend to ask, “What have you so far succeeded in conserving? What are you trying to conserve and how do you think you can achieve that?
CM: Exactly. Because China, Russia are tight with Charest another way to get a Communist gov’t…New Liberal Party…Michelle Rempel Garner will do Charest’s biding. Poilievre does pose a threat as he is a true blue Conservative just like Leslyn Lewis. My thoughts.
And Charest is not a liar because????
Will Erin Scheep’s milk maids vote this time, to put charest over the top. And is the COLONRECIMUS going to have another melt down over it?
Charest; your grandfather’s Progressive Conservative Party of Canada leader
Appalling man— in his 20’s he was promoted as an enthusiastic protege of Brian “cash-in-brownpaper-bags” Mulroney, then subsequently led an exceptionally corrupt Quebec government. As Premier, the ethical bar he set was so low you needed ground excavation equipment not to clear it. Now we hear all the spin and lies on his paid work for Huawei and the Chinese Communist Party. When are these recycled old political whores going to realize that if they want to make money after politics, then make money — but have the good graces to stay out of our faces and understand that all of your ‘dealings’ now make you totally unfit for public office. Shameless fat fraud.
The cash in brown paper bags is liberal trash.
A hundred thousand to twenty -one liberals in Quebec. Delivered in a brown paper bag according to one witness.
Millions siphoned off into liberal coffers.
Lest we forget.
https://proudtobecanadian.ca/a_handy_guide_to_the_liberal_party_sponsorship_scandal/
I think Gomery summed up the culture of corruption of the Liberal Party in Adscam quite well and I think it still holds even truer today. But that doesn’t let Mulroney off the hook. The brown paper bag from Karl Heinz Schreiber is not an urban myth. Mulroney was (and suspect still is) horribly corrupt — and my point was Charest was an enthusiastic apprentice and his time as Premier shows he learned very well. He has no credibility to even be thinking of another stab at public office at this point.
Yes, Mulroney was part of the same stench. They rub shoulders with one another, same clubs same social circles, it’s why they steal with abandon and when caught, never go to jail.
Mulroney took money, yes, but the origin of the “money in a brown paper bag” meme is pure Ad Scam, per the witness.
To paraphrase WSC: “CPC, you have a choice between defeat and dishonour. If you choose dishonour you will still have defeat”
If JC wins Max and his PP will go to 12-16 percent next general election.
The only number that would be important is Maverick’s number. Vote Maverick and no one will care what Toronto or Vancouver want…
Remember, vote Maverick or PPC.
He’s a liberal plant, get him out of the race.
I may have to rejoin the party to vote against this guy. Front runner indeed.
I am keeping my membership for that very reason.
I have also indicated to the party that any association whatsoever with the WEF is immediate grounds for disqualification and anyone in the party that continues any association with the WEF, for me, is an act of sedition.
Nevertheless, if who I want as leader in the Cons is not leader, I will not hesitate to give Max my vote and donations.
They will use our tax dollars to buy more memberships then we can. Separation is our only shot.
Charest is a WEF plant. He will ban Huawei until he won’t, which is when he becomes CPC leader. Get this phony Liberal prick out of there.
I hope he wins. He and the CPC deserve each other.
I will support PP either way.
I will vote CPC if Pierre Polievre leads it, but if he doesn’t I will support People’s Party.
I’m not one of those who has to have a perfect CPC leader to vote for it, which Pierre isn’t, but just one who is not a liberal lite echo chamber, opportunist and possibly ethically challenged retread who spits in face of the base and it’s values and beliefs.
If Polievre is not the new leader I will be voting for Max. Charest and Brown are just a has been and a never was.
Nice to see Michelle Remple Garner has joined Brown’s team. They deserve each other even more.
https://westernstandardonline.com/2022/03/brown-says-he-will-fight-for-western-canada-rempel-garner-named-campaign-co-chair/
meh…I could give a rats (_i_) who is the CPC leader – 1 exception: Leslyn Lewis…possibly.
I will continue to Vote MAX as I have the past 2 elections. CPC has Done SFA about pretty much anything of note since I don’t know when…(Ever in my 69+ yrs.??) – why bother..??
Max is the only one in this country with a TRUE CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM.
ergo, thats who I vote for.
“I’m not one of those who has to have a perfect CPC leader to vote for it, which Pierre isn’t, but just one who is not a liberal lite echo chamber, opportunist and possibly ethically challenged retread who spits in face of the base and it’s values and beliefs.”
Well said. He’s the best of a bad lot, to me.
I voted PPC last time to get rid of O’Toole…if another Red Tory is chosen I will do the same again.
There are nothing BUT red tories.
For the last couple of years Polieve has been the face of the party while the Tool hid in plain sight. Funny how as soon a there is a wiff of power to be gained, the cockroaches come out of the woodwork but I guess one cannot expect much more from career politicians. This leadership vote could be the tipping point for both the “conservatives” and the Peoples Party.
I had a discussion with a Vancouver friend about the CPC race. He strongly believes that Charest is the only candidate that the legacy media and thus the Canadian voters will find palatable. While I acknowledge that this may be true, it’s also the source of the problem and why the party ended up with Erin Da Toole.
Electing a Controlled Opposition Liberal-Lite CINO like Charest is what has turned Canada into Canuckistan. It needs to stop.
If you vote Maverick, there comes a point where no one will care what Toronto or Vancouver think. What is good for Maverick is good for Canada.
Balance…
All well & fine if they even run a candidate in your particular riding. In mine, they didn’t. Last election and for the first time in my life, I literally had no one to vote for.
Maverick part still has climate change BS as part of their platform. They won’t get me vote until they study the science!
I hate that expression but it just amazes me that otherwise smart people do not realize that they have been scammed for the better part of 40 years. I will only vote for somebody who is at least smart enough to read the statements by Drs. Richard Lindzen formerly of MIT and Judith Curry formerly of GIT. I pointed that out to a believer and told me they didn’t have enough time to read their statements which would not have taken 30 minutes.
Funny but if you stand Jean Charest, Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff side-by-side, they are the same person.
Remember when they promoted Joke lark II because they were getting nervous about Stockwell Day and the Canadian Alliance back in 2000?
His first kick at the can was a disaster, but at least he got to be PM for a cup of coffee in 1979, and then blew it. So they bring him back for 2000.
Charest totally flopped in 1997, so they want to bring him back for 2025.
Those are the folks at the top of the ‘Conservative’ Party of Canada these days. I’m not knocking the membership, just pointing out the reality.
Last I knew, this guy was a Liberal. A Shape shifter. Why does the CPC always seek out libs for leader? Beyond me.
The Canadian Bankers Assholeiation tell them to…
So he’s a liar.
Just like the other candidates.
Let the Tories know that they are done.
He’s worse than a Liberal. He has zero principles. The fact that he’s lifting his head now means he’s got a wee bit more grifting to do before he retires. If the Conservative party elects this parasite to lead them, it’ll be their death knell.
Oh, and by the way, with this guy you need to invert what he says. If he says he’ll ban Huawei, expect them to be our national telecom provider. If he says “Period” that means he’ll make it policy within a month of being elected.
I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on him if his clown hair was on fire.
He’s not a conservative.
But the Conservative party isn’t conservative either.
He’s also a K-becer and that’s three strikes right there.
Quebecois conserve their culture, so there’s that.
Charest left Quebec for Calgary. He got a good deal on some downtown office rent.
It’s closer to China and Huawei HQ.
Last I heard Calgary office space was going for net zero, just to keep the furnace running.
The CPC. Canada’s longest running comedy. And the only one that’s really funny.
Pierre will get my vote in the election if he becomes the leader of the CPC. Leslyn Lewis also seems good, but I don’t think she’s the fighter that Pierre is, and I believe her French is weak (not that I care, but you know…). I am willing to give somewhat of a pass on the Covid mess, and lack of opposition – I don’t know what you’d have had to do to make yourself heard against the Liberals, the NDP, Public Health, the bought and paid for media (that’s probably the worst). Also especially when you have a leader that is not saying anything useful at all – first Sheer, and then O’Toole.
If the CPC makes the colossal mistake of electing Charest, or Brown, I will vote PPC, because I believe the CPC have no chance anyway with either of those two. But I hate to see Conservatives fail to keep their eye on the prize, time and time again shoot themselves in the foot, be all divisive, and thereby let the slime continue to rule over us. It will be the ruin of this country. We cannot let the average disengaged Canadian with a sense of entitlement off the hook, of course.
However, I think we all know that PPC cannot form a gov’t, and even if they got a few seats, it wouldn’t make much difference with another Liberal government after the next election (which is a depressingly long time away, with the disgusting unity we have between Trudeau and Singh). So I will fight one more time for the Conservatives – but the leader makes all the difference.
At the same time, I’m trying to work provincially (Alberta) for new leadership who will get going on that firewall stuff we’ve been promised for so long (although that sounds like I’m important! I’m not – just one vote). I do believe separation may be in the future, but at this point, for most people, I don’t see the support for that.
The leader makes no difference. The “establishment” are behind both parties, the same banks, law firms, communications firms, etc. With the CPC it will be the policies of the Laurentian un “elite”. The CPC needs to become populist, ala the MAGA Republicans. They are proof it can be done, Trump controls the Repubs now, the uniparty squishes are on the run. It would take a leader of that stature to get it done, but it would be the only hope, and sadly so far beyond the imagination of tall poppy cutting Canadians, which is why we will keep circling the drain.
Charest is the Demarais candidate. Power Corporation – they have a horse in every race. Meddling in the CPC in the event that voters turn on the Bong. It’ll happen.
I suspect the Laurentiens made Charest an offer he couldn’t refuse. It’s a clever plot. Charest can make a case to the average voter that he is in fact a conservative. The Power boys give him the money he needs to run a well oiled campaign. The compliant media will play along and produce copy trumpeting Charest’s incredible ability to ‘fund raise’. Stories on Charest’s conservative bona fides will abound.
There will be No stories about the corruption scandals that dogged Charest throughout his career. His connections to the quebek construction industry. Nothing about his addiction to Huawei and chicom money. It wouldn’t surprise if the chicoms are also behind this candidacy as well.
If their plan succeeds, their boy wins. He may even become prime minister which will be a huge win-win for his backers and a horrid loss for Canada (except quebek). If unsuccessful he will have negotiated a nice soft exit landing, complete with sinecure. Oh, and if he doesn’t win, he won’t have to run to become a conservative MP. That’s just how committed he is.
So there you have it, Jean Charest – candidate for CPC leadership. He’s no conservative and He’s in it for himself.
It’s staged. The fix is in. What does he have going for him? Bilingualism✔Experience ✔A Cowboy Hat✔ There’s a photo of him at the St. Tite, P.Q. rodeo under the Wikipedia link in his name. They sent him there years ago, le “Tit” is a real place in Quaybeckie! So, sex sells, yet again, in case you find him old. Count on it, the speeches are already written. He’s practicing them in his sleep. He’ll make Bongo look like a little boy.
He stood out big time when all that was left was him and Elsie Wayne. Remember that? It never happened like that before with two seats, it’s a message, to say the least. C’mon– that was rigged! It will be rigged again! The Laurentians singled him out a long time ago.
For good measure, his given name is John James–very Anglo. His WEF ties are such a pest. It gives a bad taste in the mouth to know he’s pro the big reset. Wtf Jean, tabarnak. I hope for WEXIT.
Why would the Cons even consider a Quebek Liberal Mafia asshole like Charest or sleazy douche like Brown as leader ?
Why would the Con executive abuse their members like this ? The Cons are actually worse then the Basic Dickholes… con artists.
Yet another example of the perverse contempt the Con executive have for those that vote for that party.
Who is bank rolling Mafia Charest ? Who is bank rolling sleazoid Brown ?
Mafia Charest is a bad joke. Neither of these two grifters should even be considered viable candidates, the fact that they are considered and promoted by the Con executive tells you how corrupt the Con Party has become.
We are going to find out just how much the Con executive want to continue their support for the Turdhole/Singh globalist dictatorship.
I am convinced we have not had a fair leadership race in the Conservative party in a long time. And we’re going to get Charest again simply because he is the one the elites have chosen for us.
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The so called conservative party (Uni-Party Blue tie branch) amuses me .
The voters who continue to fall for their charade don’t amuse me as much.
Suckers.
Righteous Suckers.
So sure that “This time it will be different”.
After 60 years of betrayal.
Charlie Brown getting suckered by Lucy ain’t got nothing compared to faithful supporters.
So now the Party digs up two festering scumbags to run against Pierre P..
And whoever else may yet decide to run.
Yet these current elected conservatives show no sign of opposition to the fascist State we live under..None stood with the Ottawa protesters.
None stood up to condemn two years of State Thuggery,imposed in fear of a Flu.
None will acknowledge that parliament is not essential,yet they all ran away for two years.
None defend our God Given Rights,they just mumble platitudes as to how they,if in power,would restrict our rights more gently.
And they all reacted with greed and envy when the real political opposition of Canada raised $10 million in just days.
In my opinion all 338 MPs are Treasonous Scum.
Maybe we should all join the “Cons” to elect Rocky or Bullwinkle as the new leader..
A fictional character will have more backbone and moral strength than your Canadian Conservative..Who worships big government above all.
As Canada sinks into ruin,the only argument made by Conservatives of late,is “We can manage the decline better”..
Or as Otoole put it,”Whatever Dear Leader Says,but we can do it better”.
A truly “winning ” message.
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