Lorne Gunter has some important questions for Canadian officials:
Alberta (which had two well-known outbreaks in meat-packing plants that skewed its statistics in mid-April), has had only a few dozen new cases a day this week despite opening up beauty salons, restaurants and most retail a week ago. Golf courses and provincial parks have been open for three weeks.
I would argue even Ontario is no longer so serious that its phased lockdown cannot proceed. More than three-quarters of Ontarians who have test positive are now COVID-free.
The problem remains Quebec.
Quebec still has more than half of the cases in the entire country. And fewer than a third of infected Quebecers have recovered.
Well in Nova Scotia, our problem is that our premier is a control freak. He’s got emergency power and he’s not going to give it up until he’s damn good and ready, and he’ll take nobody’s advice but his own on this front. Our chief of public health is more of a mouthpiece for the premier than an independent advisor. We’ve been in single digits of new cases for, oh, well over a week. The number of active cases outside of one long-term care home is .. I don’t know now, must be less than 20. But the lockdown continues until the premier decides it’s finished, and that’s just that. The political opposition here is toothless and useless.
This entire situation has exposed the real & ugly flaw that Canadian parliamentary democracy has NO effective means of checking a majority government. Hell even minority Trudeau can’t effectively be checked since the Conservatives under Scheer have gone completely AWOL. And nobody in Canada cares that our governing structures are so flawed and there’d be no appetite to fix them anyway. We’re a silly excuse of a country, really.
So are the people. Ten thousand in the streets of Halifax would stop the insanity. But you nor anyone else will do it. I have been using the word cowards in regard to this circumstance and I am correct. I have challenged many to stand with me and walk with me. No takers.
Did you see the pictures of Mayor John Tory in the park yesterday? People are quietly ignoring Big Brother. That’s the Canadian Way. 10K people out sunning themselves in the park, ignoring Karen and daring the cops to do a damn thing about it.
We don’t do the marching thing here. Its more of a come-as-you-are pickup hockey game. Just let the Toronto cops arrest a few more sunbathers in the nice weather, then you’ll see something.
It shows that Canadians were fine with “following the rules” when it suited them, not because it made sense to do so.
This country runs on inconsistency, hesitance and idiocy.
The most important methods of stopping and treating this virus (ie – gloves, stopping all flights, medications, ect) were not done and still aren’t being done.
If it occurs to the morons in charge to produce gloves here toward the end of May then this country is proving Darwin right.
Well said.
Nothing about this requires the elimination of our freedom. Nothing!!!!! Anyone who votes for any of the fools, no matter which party , that conspired to take your freedom should get out of Canada.
Well, quite simply we don’t have to be in a solidarity lockdown. It’s time to ignore the feds. In fact, that time passed long ago.
upvote Art
Just had to read the first paragraph to form my reaction to the article. The question “Is Canada opening too quickly?” should resonate with all. Canada is only Ontario and Quebec. That is all that matters. The others are there to be either bribed or pillaged for the greater benefit of Upper and Lower Canada.
West of the Manitoba and Ontario border, tremendous progress is being made. While new cases continue, they are being rapidly eclipsed by recovered cases. The remaining productive portions of the country are ready to get back to work. Not just out of economic necessity but because of the value that work provides in and of itself. Sitting around watching Netflix all day while your brain rots is far more harmful.
This again showcases the divide in this country that is unbridgeable and should lead to a New Dominion on the North American continent
Exactly what I was thinking only much more eloquently written. Manitoba has had a grand total of 292 cases with seven deaths, no one currently in ICU. Why are we destroying Manitoba’s economy? The obvious solution is to shut down the border and let no one from Ontario and Quebec in and carry on with our lives. This in spite of actions out of Ottawa like we had an order of hundreds of thousands of items needed for PPE from the USA. Trump stopped he deliveries and then released Manitoba’s order directly to Trudeau and what did Trudeau do? Trudeau confiscated it and sent a few hundred masks to Manitoba and the rest went to Quebec and Ontario! We shortly thereafter had to have over 100 health care workers go into self isolation because lack of PPE left them exposed to ONE infected patient. The situation is absolutely ridiculous. Oh and we have not had one single outbreak in our nursing homes either. Clearly Manitoba is once again being made to pay for the corruption and incompetence of Quebec and Ontario. So what else is new in Canada?????
So 80% of deaths in Canada are in nursing homes.
50% of deaths in Canada are in Quebec.
40% of deaths in Canada are in QUEBEC nursing homes.
So a NATIONAL shut down for 40% of the nation’s deaths in a single sector in a single province.
See Robert’s post on Bonhoeffer for a quote about the relative dangers of evil and stupidity.
Our pols aren’t smart enough to be evil.
They’re terminally stupid.
Currently 62% of Covid deaths in Canada are in Quebec.
Check the numbers:
https://www.covid-19canada.com/
Exurban – Thanks for the link.
Even more interesting would be a graphical map showing the distribution , especially in urban areas. I highly doubt we will ever see that data as it would conflict with the left’s endless push for abandoning cars and denser housing.
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it’s the flu.
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When I heard that the biggest hotspot was in Quebec, my immediate assumption was that Quebec had imported the virus from Florida. I live on the Atlantic coast in Florida, and although our county has had only one small outbreak traced to a family that had visited Italy over the holidays and contract tracing and quarantine of the family pretty much extinguished the flames, car loads from Quebec still streamed down into south Florida. Quebeckers love to congregate in the same counties that exiles from New York and New Jersey do, hence the crossover infection. I would be curious to see if genetic phenotyping from Quebec cases matches those of NY and NJ, as opposed to our local mini outbreak that was traced back to Italy.
As I am high risk, I started paying attention in January with the news out of Wuhan. I looked at my Amazon order history and I started ordering things I thought I would need January 19th. I voluntarily self-quarantined and the few times I went out, I wore a well fitting N-95 mask under a SP50 fishing balaclava and disposable gloves. I have worn masks and gloves in previous highly infectious flu seasons, but this one seemed particularly infectious and in January/Feb not much was known about it at all. There were a few others masked on my runs to grocery stores etc but like me they seemed to be people that were at higher risk of community acquired infections. However, businesses in our county never really shut down except for some larger chains, such as Kohls and Bed, Bath and Beyond. Home Depot instituted their mandatory wait-in-line on the pieces of tape & wear a mask inside the store, while Lowe’s did not. Walmart and Target during the peak of the infection did not have social distancing, tape on the floors etc. I remember trying to soothe one lady who was in tears in March because she was convinced we were all going to die and no one was taking it seriously. Our beaches were only closed for two weeks out of an abundance of caution, but everything is open and fully operational now.
I find it interesting that long after the outbreak had been confined in my county, and no new infections, and 5 deaths, that Walmart, Michaels etc starting with the “social distancing” etc. This “crisis” has been weaponized and is now a litmus test for your political beliefs and virtue signalling against Trump then about actual public health.
Anyways, I am going to guess that the Quebec outbreak will be tied back to South Florida and the NY & NJ strains, which seems to be more virulent than the Italy strain that popped up in our county. My guess is asymptomatic carriers must be nursing home/LTC care workers who spread it that way.
As an aside, I am a Canadian citizen who immigrated to the US decades ago and was in Canada earlier this year to deal with my mom’s estate before the COVID thing kicked off. I am glad that I was able to get home before they decided to close the borders as it seems that all common sense has left the building. Every time I go back to Ontario I am stunned at how docile and clueless people are and how fanatically interested people seem to be in following US politics. The only people who initiate conversations with me about US politics and want to argue about Trump are Canadians when I am back, and they are all experts who know far more than I, even though I have lived in the US for 29 years now, and worked with Congress and the Hill during my career before retiring to Florida after my husband retired from active duty 10 years ago. It’s surreal. They know it’s true because the CBC and CNN told them so, my first hand knowledge is always dismissed even though they start the conversation and ask for my opinion. It’s like living in the twilight zone trying to engage with these people (and the TDS is strong in all). YMMV.
I lived in Quebec for many years and one thing I learned while living there is it was as corrupt as places like India and Mexico. Everything runs on corruption and the rules apply to everyone else, not me. Only chumps follow the rules and only the stupid get caught breaking the rules. So a virus would spread like wildfire in a place where no one follows the rules. I suspect the nursing homes are such a mess because they are run for profit and inspectors are paid to not notice the failures. Corruption is theft by the rich from those less rich. Quebec is robbing the rest of Canada by corruption and we are allowing it to happen.
It is not Trudeau’s call. His duty was to close the borders and he could not make the call. All health issues are Provincial. The useless Premiers need to pull their thumba out of their simian asses and do what they are paid to do, look after their citizens. In Alberta the asswipe Kenney is the problem. He helped create the Temporary Foreign Workers Program. Albertans are ignoring the bastards anyway. Typical Albertan Prudent Man approach. We go about our business with common sense. Even if the great herd of parasitic worms in government don’t like. They always have to catch up anyway when they are ignored.
And he did a great job of “closing the borders” without actually cancelling international flights, or ensuring quarantine under hospital/prison like conditions for the newly arrived from out of country.
A quarantine in name only only helps to spread the disease. Scar made the same point below, and earlier.
Watcher, they are not there to take care of me or anyone. They are there to serve us and efficiently conduct the necessary business of government, not all government business is necessary.
“And fewer than a third of infected Quebecers have recovered.”
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Is this statistic correct? It certainly doesn’t match up with the rest of the planet.
Orson, based on the reality world wide it is 100% incorrect.
you’re being sarcastic…right? Because the worldwide recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%. Personally, I believe it is higher than that. That doesn’t count asymptomatic carriers. It wouldn’t shock me to know that 70% of the US population has acquired and discarded the virus without knowledge.
The word wide mortality rate among detected cases is 6.27%. The worldwide recovery rate is too early to bother with as too many new cases around turd world haven’t concluded one way or another, scroll down for global numbers: https://www.covid-19canada.com but it is probably safe to assume that it is around 92% to 95%. Again we’re talking detected cases… It was detected cases that overwhelmed European hospitals.
Well that’s not relevant either. In fact, “detected” cases don’t tell the story at all. Nor does it tell the story about co-morbidity. As for “overwhelmed European hospitals” there were a few, but it wasn’t the rule.
Yes facts are relevant and are discussed here.
Yes, facts ARE relevant and you should seek them out. The “mortality rate” you claim is nonsense. Rubbish, actually. If you want to look at real facts about death rates, look to Iceland and the floating experimental petri dish called the Diamond Princess. Iceland (which never locked down), for example, has one of the highest testing rates in the world (173,000 per million vs. 39,000 per million in Canada), one of the highest infection rates in the world (5,290 per million vs. 2,281 per million in Canada) and yet one of the LOWEST death rates in the world (29 per million vs. 174 per million in Canada).
And the death rate on the Diamond Princess is 13 out of 700 test positive passengers or 1.85%. AND, the average age of the passengers was 69. And when that data is translated to a Western country’s overall age structure, the statistic would be 0.2 per cent higher than normal flu (~0.1 per cent), but not by much. AND in the Diamond Princess, the presence of symptoms in cases with COVID-19 may correlate with other factors unrelated to age including prior health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and/or immunosuppression. What this all means is simply that those with prior health conditions without question present much more with symptoms (or as you put it, “detected cases”) than the general population.
“Yes, facts ARE relevant and you should seek them out. ”
Yes kid you have found the holly grail of information none here brought up until now. Sure you did.
I deal in facts and I know where to find them….and interpret them. Try it, kid.
Yes it is correct, he said “haven’t recovered” not “have died”: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102
Check it out for yourself. Here is province by province breakdown. Kebek is the one that does not fit the pattern.
Are we? I am off to the local pub for lunch in Calgary. Hearing that several places downtown are seeing decent lunch crowds. Bunch of people back in our office today apparently.
A place like Toronto (and Montreal to a lesser extent) is going to take a lot longer to ramp up back cause of the commuting, which is going to be a nightmare. Lot easier for smaller cities.
WRT covid intensity and experience: Canada isn’t BC, isn’t Vancouver land isn’t Victoria isn’t the Westshore.
Each has their own covid experience therefore different measures are warranted, drilled down to communities.
A national one size fits all is precisely the wrong approach, like assuming we all live in nursing homes, not beyond ludicrous.
But a good way to differentiate between true blue liberalism and progressivism, liberalism on therapy and/or statist steroids.
The true liberal allows some government intervention in response to crises, but those measure end when the crises do.
The progressive, aka Marxist state determines rights types, ensures they grow as much power as possible, even prolonging crises.
Because a crisis is a perfect time to “reshape society,” and a “terrible thing to waste” in the ageless search to usurp liberty.
Any time you hear, we can’t go back to … the 50s, good times, January 2020, if not from grassroots, is code for totalitarianism.
We shouldn’t pretend it can’t or won’t happen here. What did DeMarxists just try? Look at Venezuela, caught in a socialist snare.
…and then people wonder why that UNELECTED control freak bureaucrat Bonnie Henry refuses to release statistics for individual communities.
And Horgan seems quite happy to have abdicated leadership to that annoying, bland shrew Bonnie. She is afraid of everything and anything, but so typical of the current progressive mindset. That is, unless ALL risk is eliminated, the population must be restricted, and we should be scared, very scared! Thank you, you shrew, Bonnie!
This educated, lettered, Twit, has been so gracious to allow restaurants to open, hairdressers, etc, shop at Costco, kept the liquor stores open, opened provincial parks, but DONT YOU DARE GATHER IN CARS FOR DRIVE-IN MOVIES!
Words can’t describe the stupidity of these dumb decisions! There is no safer place than being outdoors, and, in your own car!
And people view her as smart, and showing leadership. If we were in a real war, it would have been lost on Day One, with her mousy, scared, scared, scared “leadership”. But she’s SO nice and soft spoken.
GAG ME!
When we went to Kimberley, BC from Calgary, AB for a week vacation in late March, I had Henry’s statement that she had no authority to close the provincial border and that she did not think it was needed as a datum, in case we ran in to a roadblock. We did not, and a week later (on our return) the Alberta plates going into BC were frequent on BC Hwy 93.
If we could shut down the economy for several months and probably retard it for years, why couldn’t we have shut down planes full of sick people flying in from China? Especially when China had already shut down domestic travel. The boy with the black face might want to explain that.
Ethics breeches, assault, multiple acts of racism, obstruction of justice and 5000+ counts of manslaughter.
Lets face it, he could kick an old nun in the box and pull out his pecker and piss on her and he’d still get re-elected.
But he is so dreamy.
And yes he’ll be re-elected. I’m just waiting for the snap election call with the libs polling numbers remarkably high and any meaningful challenge non-existent.
I would remind you that Winston Churchill was riding high at the end of WWII. Less than two months later, he lost the election. And Churchill DESERVED to be re-elected…..Trudeau didn’t.
Buddy, butt his right hand man won’t be there to help him next time, cuz andy stupid has resigned as the Cuckservative leader
Yeah, while at Blackie could also explain why did he give 820K grant to the same Wuhan lab that the plague came from?
Cause Canadians are sheep and we’ve been shorn good and proper. Next time anyone tells you that Americans and Canadians are basically the same tell them to pound salt.
Think Trump would have the audacity in the midst of a “pandemic” to put out a list of guns he wants banned…how about increasing the carbon tax on a populace that is watching the economy tank before their own eyes, complete with companies going under not to mention innumerable job losses. Pfffffttt…he wouldn’t make it to the end of the week.
I don’t know who wrote about it the other day, but he’s right, this is just an extended summer vacation for the government employee class who have absolutely no skin in the game because they’re getting paid regardless. How nice.
Brian Lilley labelling decent Canadian folks assembling in Trinity bellwoods as “covidiots” was the last straw for me. Brian Lilley of all people. I guess he didn’t count on John Tory showing up.
If ya’ll are worried about the much anticipated “second wave” and I say “much anticipated” because that’s exactly what the media is counting on, then stay in your safe space and stfu.
People have bills to pay and aren’t getting their panties in a twist with a virus that’s killed .00017 of the population.
“I would argue even Ontario is no longer so serious that its phased lockdown cannot proceed. More than three-quarters of Ontarians who have test positive are now COVID-free.”
Yes I agre,e but it is still spreading in Ontario we were at 3.4K cases last week and are at 4.1K active cases today. We’re not out of the woods yet. But yes, this probably is not a reason continue the lockdown nonsense… unless we’re talking about locking down federal politicians and a bunch of city majors.
Ontario is a large landmass and it is not homogeneous in infection rates. I would suggest that the politicians in any area that is locked down should not be paid as long as the lockdowns remain in place just so the politicians can know what it feels like. I’m tired of hearing the crap that “we’re in this together”. Like hell we are.
Kebek is cheating … again. They recovered. There is no possible way that Wuhan Kung Flu lasts longer in Kebek than in every other province. They are just undereporting recoveries. Probably to keep the sheep scarred and keep them in line. Maybe to help federal Government keep the ROC in line? Maybe to secure more equalization payments because they are so distinct and special that even COVID blah blah blah therefore give more money? Hard to say why but they are cheating. Period. Most of those listed as active have already recovered.
I fail to see how keeping the sheep scarred would keep them in line. Those wool clippers hurt when they nip the skin and the sheep would want to run away rather than remain inline.
So why do you think Kebek is underreporting recoveries? Because they clearly are doing that.
More money for the number of active infected cases would be my guess. If you incentivize something, don’t be surprised when you get more of it.
That would be my guess too.
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”” ~ Ronald Reagan
In this case some stop moving literately and hence subsidies flow (excuse the dark humor).
Agreed, follow the giant sucking sound. That’s the music of QU draining everyone else’s treasury.
colon, weren’t ewe one of the “we’re all gonna die fools ” at the front of this covid bullshit. It’s people like you who started out facilitating this lock down crap by crying the sky is falling, you were running with R~4 at the start. I on the other hand have been out and about every fukking day since this started, and I’v been “working”, and have work lined up for several days. Time you just STFU and sit the rest of this ride out, I’m sick and tiered of dimwitts like you and unDork, and the Ooz. Just shut the fukk up already!!!!
No imbecile we weren’t. You simply could not listen to reason and decided that anyone who does not follow your line to the letter belongs to the “sky is falling club” and then you run with that strawman to your retarded hart’s content. I have never bothered to convince you otherwise because I felt pity and did not feel like spoiling the fan of a deranged, mentally deficient, feces flinging, baboon. Besides your particular version of stupid is more fun to watch running uninterrupted, particularly when you turn rabid due to a lack of a validating response.
quebec is also counting almost any death as a covid death
the guy in charge of health is Horacio Arruda and he is on video – sitting next to quebec premier ministre – saying clearly that they often don t test, don t confirm but still label deaths as covid deaths…
he even gives an example ; if the person died in a house where one person tested positive, they will not test the deceased they will simply say he died of covid
all videos are in french of course
the number of covid deaths in quebec is greatly inflated
we have evidence of it, I have seen more videos a couple hours ago ( all in french )
quebec is cheating, not all those people died of covid
Why?
Because Emperor Justine rules from his Quebec Base..
The sooner the West cuts off their cash flow the better.
For our “Safety and Sanity” we must isolate the Quebec Disease.
It’s not Ontario and Quebec, it’s Montreal and to a lessor extent Toronto. I doubt Montmagny Quebec, or North Bay are hot spots for the Chinese virus.
You have to wonder how much of the lolly that the Trudeau “government” is throwing out the window is actually going to end up in Quebec. The vast majority would be my guess. Just another sop to the parasites.
“…. how much of the lolly that the Trudeau “government” is throwing out the window is actually going to end up in Quebec. The vast majority would be my guess. Just another sop to the parasites.”
Dont worry. The pay-me-later gravy is being slurped up just as greedily in Trawna, Halifax, Regina, Edmonton and Vancouver as it is in Montreal.
Not a chance. Quebec will be getting far more than the rest of the country. That’s how it operates.
People need to stop looking at positive test case numbers and look at hospital beds occupied. Again today both Quebec and Ontario reported nearly 1000 positive tests but both provinces had a reduction in hospitalizations. This trend has been going on for at least a week. Also the number of deaths are declining again. Either they have found a better way to control the spread in care homes or they are running out of people in the care homes who are dying.
I said it a month ago, time to reopen for most provinces. The donkeys in charge are afraid that in relaxing the lock down they will be blamed for each and every death, and they are probably correct. The media is vicious and mindless with regards to this now. If I was a provincial premier I would open up the province, stop reporting daily numbers, and tell the media that life goes on. But we know they wouldn’t do that because the proles out there are still frightened and acting mindlessly. I mean, when you see someone wearing a mask in their car, alone, you know they are infected with the media fright.
NatPo had an article co written by 4 infectious disease specialists (2 UofT, 2 McMaster) suggesting we open up now. They referenced the German model whereby the Germans have set a target of 50 new cases per day per 100,000 population. Below that the hospital system can take it given the expected low % of those 50 that might need a hospital visit. Given Ontario’s population we could live with 1000 new cases each day, but Ford has us at 200 before we can go to the next phase
We haven’t had a single new case in Manitoba in over a week except for a woman and child living with a positive. We have no one in ICU and last time I checked one person in hospital. But I can’t get my teeth cleaned. You see we have no PPE. Everything in Manitoba was all confiscated and sent to Winnipeg to protect the staff there so vets and dentists have nothing to protect themselves and can’t replace what they gave up (rightfully I might add) to Winnipeg.
“Quebec still has more than half of the cases in the entire country. And fewer than a third of infected Quebecers have recovered.
There are more than 30,000 active cases in Quebec, three-quarters of the national total.”
This is false.
Theyve averaged about 850 new cases per day since early April. How is it over 7 weeks latwr the resolved cases (deaths plus recoveries) have yet to catch up?
How do they have 55% of total cases yet 85% of active cases?
We have the same problem in Michigan. Detroit blew up fast, the rest of the state….not so much. But as that woman says, we all have to pay, and if we complain she’ll make it longer.
Ahh the “Cultural Enrichment” of Quebec is in full bloom this summer.
Alberta’s culturally enriched meat plants are slowly working it out, no doubt Trudeau’s favorite peoplekind will eventually too.
“Safety” its all about “safety” folks. You cannot put a price tag on “safety”. Are you against “safety”?
Even if we have to run a 250 BILLION deficit this year, it will be worth it – because “safety”.
Treasury is being raided – the left in their wettest dreams never dreamed (until it was realized how effectively a flu could be exploited) that they would be able to enact command and control of the country while steamrolling our rights – and get people out beating pots and pans in support of it!
And even when it has shown to be remarkably overblown (planned some might say)- governments have doubled down.
Because safety. All the while importing the disease.
Remember, if it saves even one life…..
Yup. That’s why the speed limit on the Trans Canada is 15 km/hr.
and no enhanced driver training/testing for Class “EH”, too much rools for denew Lib voters
Ah, you have the ENDP mantra well remembered.
That’s the excuse for the ridiculous expenditures on buying the old Ramada in Victoria, and renting hundreds of room in other flea bag hotels here, for the “homeless” druggie zombie criminals. Heard this morning that thefts are already occurring from the hotel, and many ex-employees won’t be forced to work under those conditions, alongside the drugged out anti-social zombies. But that’s all AOK with the bleeding heart ENDP. If it saves just one life…….
Don’t let a crisis go to waste!
Yeah, they sure use that phrase, don’t they? I have asked on social media several times of people who use it how much the government should actually pay to “save that one life”? Like, should it pay 100% of the GDP to “save that one life”? And if so, what about all the other lives. And what about the “opportunity cost” of trying to save that one life especially if the cost of trying to do so might actually save 10, 100, 1,000 or 10,000 lives? Would that not be a better use of resources? I mean, look to the U.S. now (as they aren’t hiding the cost of the pandemic in terms of economic injection as the Liberals are).
The U.S. has now allocated at LEAST $3 TRILLION dollars due to the lockdown (and more to come probably). Let’s say that 100,000 people die from this in the U.S. The cost of each of those deaths is $30,000,000. Now how many people do you think could be SAVED if that $3 TRILLION was spread into things like transplants, cancer research, etc? I mean, the average cost of a heart transplant is $1.4 million…the average cost of a kidney transplant is $414,000. The average cost of a pancreas transplant is $350.000 and the average cost of a lung transplant is $860,000.
So that means for the amount of money the lockdown is costing, for each single Wuhan virus death, they could perform 21 heart transplants, 72 kidney transplants, 85 pancreas transplants or 34 lung transplants.
And also, a study done last fall by a university in Canada, indicated that for every 1% increase in the unemployment rate, the suicide rate increases by 2.8%.
And what does this have to do with the topic at hand? You really need a blog of your own.
I already scan a few lines and then ignore his output, much like I do with Unme.
Solidarity with Quebec and Ontario? This is the first time I heard of this nonsense. If a region is ready to open then open it. Even in risk adverse Ontario there is talk about opening up certain parts of the province. Quebec has already opened up some parts and kept others, most notably Montreal, under full lockdown.
If it’s safe to open, then open I say.
When bilingualism came in Ontario became a subsidiary of Quebec. Ontario hopeless. The west needs to separate although I would object to Thunder Bay west jumping with us. Trying to convince many Westerners that this is so is not unlike trying to convince a battered wife to leave her husband.
Next to chinamen I despise Kebekers the most.
Actually I prefer the Chinese Communists more because at least they work hard while planning their take-over of the world and hide their evil behind a happy panda smile. No one can look down their nose and give an entitled sneer like an offended pur laine Quebecois.
Why should Quebec support financial ruin, they are a French distinct society (Scott: Murray so said in the Quebec Act) and they have resources & manpower….piss on the free loaders of Ontario…. Separate now
Because Quebec is the Royal Province, and the seat of the majority of our Kings/Ministers.
“Quebec still has more than half of the cases in the entire country. And fewer than a third of infected Quebecers have recovered.”
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Not mentioned was the fact that Quebec banned the use of hydroxychloroquine. Could there be a connection?
The old folks are essentially in jail.
Many of them have only a few years to live and are wasting away imprisoned.
What is the human cost of that?
How many of them have just given up?
And their families can’t come in and visit so there’s no accountability and no checks on how they are actually being treated between a once daily five minute telephone call or SKYPE session.