This is probably now the top hot-button issue at Canadian universities – the move to replace ‘European-based knowledge’ as exclusionary, inadequate and subjective, and to replace it in some cases with “indigenous knowledge,” and even something called “indigenous science”… what some might say is superstition or magical beliefs… The idea that “indigenous knowledge” is not to be questioned, that it has value equal to supposedly ‘European’ science… is an incredibly worrisome and strange idea.
Janice Fiamengo on inclusive, decolonised, anti-rational academia. One of these.
indigenous knowledge = primitive survival skills and not much else. written language, no, the wheel no, science, no. I could go on but you get the point.
Yeah, right. I doubt even any of those “indigenous” troops will buy into this. Snow machines, Evinrudes, Winchesters, RAM trucks, houses, public health care. I’ll bet none of them believe some stinky, gap-toothed harridan will “cure” them of what ails them & then eating porcupines & knawing on last years’ dried pike scraps, while their teeth fall out from scurvy, while parked out on some frozen lake in spring waiting, waiting like their ancestors did for a bite, is gonna make them wanna even go there. That road built into Tuk was a god’s send to escape from northern hell. You betcha.
they have appropriated things that the evil white man made possible. What is wrong with those people. They should despise and refuse to use anything the white man has created. That would include the currency they get yearly from the productive white man. Yeah sure. Greedy is greedy no matter what the race.
Oh come now. If Europeans hadn’t interfered, North America would be like Wakanda. With huge advantages in science and medicine and invisible force fields to keep whitey out and everyone living in peace and harmony. Or maybe not.
I wonder what amazing implement will replace the (evil eurocentric) wheel?
Maybe they will invent the counter-gravity travois?
North America was the last to get the wheel, it had been used in most of the rest of the world for centuries including ancient Egypt and China. Didn’t take off in NA until after Columbus’ arrival. Without the wheel you take two longish, straight sticks of a diameter that you can wrap your hands around. Lay them on the ground parallel to each other with enough space between them to stand, lash your load to them, pick up one end, drag.
Can we have a show of hands of who is in for a prototype? Let those that as so irate at European culture demonstrate a life built around indigenous technology. Show us evil Europeans how it is done. Before the neo-natives set off they might want to google “Primitive Technology.” One more thing, can participants provide a way to provide progress reports. Things like the Internet, paper and pen are of course out.
Indians had the boom boom boom boom – boom boom boom boom drum. German culture had Mozart and Beethoven. Clearly equal – to morons.
They are free to try whatever they want. And students are free to pay for whatever kind of education that they want. Separating fools from their money is not against the law.
No its not Kevin….but pretty much every University in this country is fed with Taxpayer Monies to some degree. Unless FREE speech is once again returned to said place of Higher Indoctrination & SJW so called Proffs Terminated, those Public Monies being used for the so called Humanities (Hmm “humanities” …. when will that title be butchered I wonder.?), aught to be stopped.
You wanna be indoctrinated into Marxim…pay for it yourself.
Exactly right. And Macdonalds is using robots now so the jobs might be scarce for an “indigenous scientist” fresh out of school. Whatever they want to blow 150,000.00 on. Real scientists aren’t going anywhere.
McDonald’s had to switch to robots, how many times did you get a people assembled burger with all the parts almost put together correctly? Too many times the cheese is stuck to the inside of the box lid and no where near the meat where it belongs.
10 minutes of Fiamengo’s vid…and I was ready to drive to U of C and start walking about with a sign that said Feminism = Marxism…while holding a baton. They footage of young men flagellating themselves publicly was enough to make me VOMIT.
So now, white male bashing done, their latst gig is to “believe” that the pinnacle of Achievment Lies in Indigenous what again… ? “science” uhuh…
….the day they take Islam Serious is the day I may consider listening to thse NPC Kunts…..may.
Well, there is now an “Indigenous Law” program at far left UVIC…..
Funny, I don’t recall a separate law system in this country, but it’s likely on its way. More healing lodges on the way too, for those awful murderers no doubt
“…a separate law system in this country, but it’s likely on its way.” Marxism just loves class warfare.
It will come, it will be Sharia law.
My favourite is Indigenous environmentalism. Anyone who falls for that one hasn’t ever seen a reserve.
What? Capilano Reserve is practically “downtown” Vancouver, tucked just under the 1st Narrows bridge, the trees don’t even block it off from public view & you can drive right thru on Marine Drive in your Beamer. Even the chief’s digs has fence to keep the rank & file off zee property, which is a bit “whitey”!
My understanding is that some of those downtown natives own a lot of condos in Vancouver.
I am at the stage of referring back to a thought about a decade ago where it definitely became apparent the European Ancestry development of today’s Institutional ability for productivity increase to facilitate the “consumer affordable market” and the harm to North America’s environment; then well under control through similar development processes was then a Cultural Gain for Humankind and should become a North American Tax-payer recovery process of such development costs from all other Cultures.
Including Indigenous North American Cultures and all Off-Shore Cartels of Oil Nations.
Indigenous knowledge, and science being taught in our schools?
Whoa, actually not so fast with condemning this. If the Gore/Suzuki liberal-progressive plan of reducing our lives to subsistence levels, eating grass and living in caves comes to fruition all this edukation might come in handy.
This is well underway in BC schools. The indoctrination is pathetic and as described. Somehow learning about how the cavemen/natives lived and the dandelion roots they ate, is something that they want future generations to emulate. Oh yeah, with IPhones and electric conveniences. Sorry, but why are natives shopping at Superstore and Walmart? Shouldn’t they be gathering berries and roots?
It’s so disingenuous. Glad my kids have been finished with this terrible public school system, BC public schools are a lost cause.
indian science…hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, now that is phunny
Indian science – that’s an oxymoron.
This is an appalling idea. I am not so dismissive of Native traditional knowledge as some, but it is totally inappropriate to try to incorporate this into a university curriculum — especially sciences, math, etc. The two are incompatible. The Native system of belief is fine for an anthropology or sociology class, but you cannot smash together Native understanding of the world and classical European/liberal beliefs and treat them as equal. Academia is a manifestation of the classical European system of beliefs. It is incompatible with aboriginal tribal beliefs, though both have value. It is like setting up a tee-pee inside a brick building — fine for a museum, but totally ludicrous as something intended to stand alongside European architecture. Tribal cultures are totally diminished when attempts like this are made to treat them as equal to European traditions and culture. In fact it is insulting to both cultures.
This all started with … “Western medicine BAD – Eastern “natural” medicine GOOD”. Which, of course is a short step away from Christian Scientists who use prayer in lieu of chemotherapy, while watching their 8yo daughter die of a curable cancer. These numbskulls use “wholistic” or “naturopathic” “healing in lieu of antibiotics and immunizations. They proudly REJECT medicine that … “treats the symptoms of disease, not the cause”. Oh PUH-leeze. Even the mystic Steven Jobs admitted he killed himself by rejecting western medicine FIRST, before desperately seeking its treatments.
So now this diseased thinking has spread into every manifestation of our culture?
Sorry … I refuse to participate in your downward spiral back to the Dark Ages. I don’t need to rewind our society back to pre-Enlightenment days. The jungle was a nasty place to live (and die young) … you won’t drag me back there.
Perhaps the good people who believe in this vast body of indigenous knowledge can furnish the world with a written record of their vast accomplishments and artefacts prior to the arrival of the Europeans.
I’ll wait.
The first Muslims destroyed it all …
For the most part Indians had no method of counting beyond one, two, many. They were unable to calculate or record their observations regarding animal abundance or scarcity. What experiments did they perform that could be verified by replication?
Their language was very limited perhaps no more than a couple of thousand words. The English language contains more than 200,000 words.
I’m ok with their traditional beliefs, but beliefs are not knowledge.
But but but … the “Eskimos” have 62 words describing snow. They are soooo ooo ooh much more “evolved” than we white Europeans …