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Judge Andrew Napolitano on FNC today commented about some existing legal standard for race or ethnicity that refers to 1/32. He wasn’t too clear in his description of the subject.
I think after 1/32 you don’t get recognized as AFN subject and you don’t get any payments from the gov’t including free health care. So I’m probably more AFN than Pocahontas. She used the system to climb the ladder, she shouldn’t run for POTUS get my drift!!!
Basically one of her ancestors swallowed some semen.
Ridiculous, one great, great, great grandparent is “Native.’ Is that descendant under the same 1/32nd rule?
If so, maybe Warren is an Indian! But then again, who isn’t. I prefer the Lieawatha narrative.
And to pay further homage to her heritage, he should Indian Give it to her.
It’s important to keep in mind, the lower level of heritage for acceptance as “native” within US Indian Bands is about 1/5 Native American, some Bands saying 50% or 25% is their minimum… Liz Warren fails that test.
Reports from daytime radio people and The Daily Wire today said the average American is about 0.18% Native American, and so Liz Warren with 0.09% Native American, is about 1/2 as Native American as the average American.
If she qualifies as Native American, I’m likely done paying for a fishing license and the gov’t of Canada can kiss my ass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37149/backfire-2nd-correction-made-elizabeth-warren-dna-ryan-saavedra
“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship,” Cherokee Nation says in response to Sen Elizabeth Warren’s release of DNA test results “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
https://www.4conservative.com/dailycaller.com/cherokee-nation-elizabeth-warrens-claim-to-tribe-is-inappropriate/
Awesome! Cut that check, Trump! (or cheque if in Canada). It’s unbelievable that she released the results of this test. She’s as clueless as Hilary.
Once it was known a test had been done, keeping the results secret would be assumed to mean they showed no Native American ancestry. Her least bad option was to release the results and continue to maintain her ridiculous claim.
Perhaps, but releasing a video as well, that manifestly exagerrated her grandiose claims, only puts salt in her own gaping wound.
When her own party members are slagging her on this, its clear she is not well liked in her own party
Yes, the video is a real gift. She keeps digging. Faster, Elizabeth, faster! Smart PR would tell her to say, “Well, I always believed the family legend, probably because I think being part Cherokee would be something to be proud of. I’m sorry I was wrong about my ancestry. “
There was an initial “math error” that got her close to 1/32nd, she ran with it then got trapped by the correction to between 1.5 and .1% “Native” (I understand they used South American Native markers), which apparently is slightly “above average” for Americans of European descent, which apparently makes her of native descent, except the natives disagree vehemently.
But wasn’t she the first “native” Harvard faculty member? Unimportant? Is that why she trumpeted her so-called heritage?
IOW Fauxcahontas. She’s made a bloody fool of herself, as the Brits would say, even her media sycophants are scattering.
Another angry Dem living in a world of hypocritical, false narratives. IOW, SNAFU.
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Thus by U.S. standards it’s possible that she’s whiter than white lol
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so she’s 0.1% Native American and let’s guess:
10% traced back to Ghengis Khan
1% Zulu
1% Polynesian
1% Semite
1% Assyrian
1% Phoenician
1% Urdu
and possibly 5% Klingon
we’re not sure about the last one
etc
Joe, she’s 98% monkey…she should have gone with that one
To show you what a complete narcissistic psychopath Elizabeth Warren is, look no further than this tweet: https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051820933982359553
Any normal person would have hid in shame with 1/1024 results. But not her. And the fact that media outlets are actually backing her up should be disturbing to any fair minded person with an IQ over 50.
Her rabid partisan socialist followers are just as braindead as Lieawatha. Check out the rationalizing of he supporters, “she didnt claim she was native, just that she had ancestry”. Harvard called her a “woman of colour”……………….
She’s proven to be 1/2 as Native American, as the average American.
Outstanding. Hopefully President Donald J. Trump shows the $976. check on his Twitter with this comparison.
There was an ancestory DNA test done on identical triplets for the tv show “The Doctors” shown in March 2017. The ancestry results were different by quite a bit between all three for various nationalities (British, Irish, French/German, Scandinavian…). The testing did show all three were 99% European however. But to have any significant differences between identical DNA samples shows the science is far from settled. The Donald shouldn’t be sending a cheque just yet.
That’s not it. There’s no single, monolithic, universal DNA test. There are different types for different purposes, and the novelty ones are the weakest of all (because they’re the cheapest and simplest). As I think was pointed out elsewhere, those novelty tests don’t have the power to reliably detect siblings.
DNA tests done for serious purposes, like identifying criminal suspects, take longer, are way more expensive, and require better quality donor material (like blood rather than a cheek swab). They’re also not perfect; the more powerful a DNA test, the more sensitive it is to sample contamination and errors in the test process. The science is fine, but even good science can be badly performed, or presented as more accurate than it really is.
If my math serves, 2^10 =1024. So soon she will be bragging that she is a “tenth generation Native American”.
Her nearest Native relative crossed the Bering land bridge, then got some non-native pregnant and took off.
Which would have been difficult.
The genesis of the welfare state. It all makes sense now.
Trump said if she turned out to be an Indian, he would donate a million dollars to charity. He should give it to the National Rifle Association.
Apparently we are all Pocasomething now.
“She took a DNA test which shows she is 1/1024th Native.”
That would probably make most of the population of North America “native”.
Not sure about 5% Klingon, but likely 1% Neanderthal!!
That seems to pertain to all Democrats and liberals in general.
She’s 100% angry.
I have more whiskey in my blood, than Liz Warren has Cherokee in hers.
Every time Elizabeth Warren has lied’ about her heritage:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/15/benny-johnson-lays-out-every-time-elizabeth-warren-has-lied-about-her-heritage-in-epic-thread/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget
Trump will likely give it to the charity she picks, if it’s a legit charity. Just to shine them on.
Hey people! 1/32 is a very significant fraction. When the tread on your snow tires reaches 1/32 it is way past time for new ones.
Way past time to get a new Senator, too.
All Blondie has proven is the depths to which she would sink to get a grant or into a university.
Race-based policies are always bad. Thanks for proving that, Senator 0.00058 percent or whatever low number it was.
She’s not a blonde, that’s another FAKE part of Lizzy
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/08/18/warren-career-story/wDdgXG610YvE58RexdiUxO/story.html
Oh heavens! Another lie!
She’s not a blonde,…that’s cultural appropriation
If the test is reliable, Elizabeth Warren, might be between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American. Some testing services do not even bother to report a percent that is so low, considering it background noise. Make no mistake about it, results are interpreted, and the interpretation is very difficult. It is all based on statistical inferences based on inferred reference samples. The study of Population Genetics is difficult across time because populations are dynamic and in constant flux.
A service like Ancestry or 23&Me runs a given individual’s sample several times and then takes an average of the test results, that’s why the results are reported as a range. You can take the same saliva or whatever sample and submit it to all the DNA services and the results will vary from platform to platform. In other words, the results are not consistent or reproducible across companies. Native American is especially difficult because they are so few pure reference samples. Those that exist are Canadian or Central/South American. This problem is compounded by the fact that DNA from the Siberian Mal’ta culture is found in Native Americans AND Northern Europeans.
Ancestry’s business/ mission is genealogy and the documentation of the paper trail. Ethnicity is a useful tool but not an end in and of itself. DNA doesn’t give a rat’s ass about borders, culture, language, or religion. Ancestry’s algorithm is designed to detect cousins because, from Ancestry’s point of view, that is a useful and effective tool for building an accurate family tree. And, they are right.
I’m not excusing her exploitation of what she believed was her heritage, but it’s a bit of stretch to claim that Elizabeth Warren was “lying” about her Ancestry because she believed family lore. Lot’s of people believe they are Native American on not much more than that. The lesson is that all family narratives exaggerate some stuff and scuttle other stuff, likely without rhyme or reason.
You are too gullible. This woman made her racial claim to get special privelige in the labor market. It was a deliberate subtefuge, a lie, not an honest confusion.
As with Kavenaugh, just because a woman says something doesn’t make it so.
precisely Robert Ottawa, someone in her position really needs to provide a LOT more accuracy and certainty that a mere publicity preaching to the converted.
remember that ‘autobio’ touted by the lardass oprah, some recovering addict dude?
his multiple LIES were dismissed and mere blips due to ‘memory lapse’, NO ONE in the MSM did the ‘hey, wait a minute, couldnt mr book done a bit of RESEARCH on his own recollections before planting them in the lie-of-the-week title? to verify and confirm the accuracy of said ‘memories’ ?’ because none did. not even the oprah fatfry
but thats how the msm does it, GLOSSES OVER the BS.
It is one thing to honestly believe you may have an Indian ancestor somewhere in your heritage, it is quite another to put down “Native American” as your race, to the exclusion of your obviously predominant European ancestry. To do the latter is indeed fraudulent, “lying” if you will.
Moreover, she actually claimed much more immediate Indian ancestry. She said her parents had to elope because her mother was “known” to be Indian. You do not become “known” as an Indian based on 1/32nd ancestry, at most, as her mother would have been. The test results she released actually proved she lied through her teeth on that one.
One thing Fauxca-hontas has proven 9 different cheek swabs from O.J. is she’s a 100% immature pathologically lying narcissistic weak mind preying pyramid scheming opportunistic thief. Whatever DNA she’s got isn’t worth bragging much about unless it’s about how much harm she can do. A lethal poison to Lady Liberty and all those that rely on her (including freedom loving Cherokees).
I am disgusted by all this racism. The Indian scam should be denounced. How, for that matter, can a “tribe” whose name means mixed (metis) be considered a “first nation”.
I propose that SDA nation crowdfund the $976 and write a check on trumps behalf – NOT to Warren but to Harvard as a first contribution towards repaying the debt Elizabeth now owes them for scamming them by lying about her ancestry in order to gain admission.
I find it interesting that so many focus on the actual percentage as if any percentage had any relevance in this discussion.
What is the ideal percentage of Cherokee blood for a presidential candidate?
Of course it doesn’t matter. The real question is, why bother making any statement about it at all? To my mind, it is rather like making a bold assertion that there are six letters in your surname.
It is well known that the less reputable DNA labs will happily confirm that your dog has Indian blood in him, by way of helping your pooch commit tax and benefit fraud.
“Some testing services do not even bother to report a percent that is so low, considering it background noise.”
I wonder how many DNA tests she did before this one – you know, the ones that showed her Indian heritage to be statistically insignificant?
This woman is a fraud, and the fact that she will not apologize for gaming the system to her advantage tells you all you need to know about her character.
I wonder how many DNA tests she did before this one – you know, the ones that showed her Indian heritage to be statistically insignificant?
This occurred to me too.
This woman is a fraud, and the fact that she will not apologize for gaming the system to her advantage tells you all you need to know about her character.
I do Genealogy; lots and lots of Americans are sure they have a Native American ancestor. I see it all the time. Louis Henry Gates of “Finding Your Roots” was in the dog house when he revealed to his family that they were not, in fact, Native American. Do I think Elizabeth Warren acted in bad faith? Yes. I don’t think Harvard was defrauded; I think Harvard was even more culpable.
I think 1/1024 is statistically insignificant
@Robert
You think?
The sad thing is that the MSM is touting this as proof that she was telling the truth, and is a paragon of overcoming racial disadvantages. They are keeping the actual numbers secret, or burying them where most readers will not notice.
Notice a few of the headlines that Ben S. quotes….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL-mbWOYPyE&t=207s
The Media are the story, and the enemy, on this! They are claiming victory on her part. Even tho her FN ancestry is HALF that of the average WHITE American.
Global News decided she was the VICTIM in this story tonight and of course it was all about Trump’s bigotry… woman hating… lying…. and RACISM. But whatever, that’ll never change when Trumps involved. It’ll get interesting though, when the 2020 Dem primaries are taking place and Warren is on stage with perhaps 10 others wanting to win the Dem ticket. Do you think if she starts moving up in the polls and disrupting the path of two or three that feel they’re soooo close they’ll stop at nothing that they won’t throw this in her face? You think Biden or Booker gives a F*** about her that they wouldn’t use this to knock her out of the race? Haa. They’ll do it in a nano second and be just as hard if not WAY harder on her than Trump. Then the Media will be in full scramble mode.
All this is hurting my head.
How about a song instead.
Asleep At The Wheel – Cherokee Maiden
She probably only has marginally more Indian DNA than she does turnip DNA.
Trump refused to include a chapter on indigenous rights in the new US Mexico Canada trade agreement. So he’s consistent, as well as right to say, who cares.
Most people want to be treated just like everybody else. Warren’s obsession with this just identifies her as another leftist nut.
Plugged my Teutonic and Celtic DNA data file into a website that compares it to ancient prehistoric DNA. Central European samples were a close match and Clovis Indian was a closer match than some European samples. I have about the same chance of Indian ancestry as Warren – none after 1787. Likely Squareheads and Wagon Burners have common ancestors – maybe the Huns or similar Asian tribes. You do see some Germans who look Indianish.
reminds me of a documentary on ghengis khan. concluding by saying something of about 1/4 of all asians today count him as a distant ancestor.
probably includes her for that matter. what a truly objectionable fat mouth.
and yes, note how the msm merely adjusts the spin to fit the details and keep the story ‘upright’.