Not a cult.

Premier Wall channelling his inner Luther. Yes, it is time for the Protestants.

“Indulgences are not going to deal with the problem here. Paying a sort of environmental guilt payment in the form of a carbon tax isn’t going to get us to the point where we have reduced emissions. Technology will. More renewables will.”

Not a cult, no, no, no.

29 Replies to “Not a cult.”

  1. I am more alarmed by the people who actually believe the climate guff than the people who just are using it as an excuse to tax the Hell out of us.

  2. Wall’s not wrong; carbon taxes are just guilt payments. He’s also right; if you want to reduce carbon emissions, technology is the only way to achieve it. There are lots of good reasons to reduce fossil fuel use; global warming is not one of them.

  3. Indeed. We all know that nuclear energy is a good idea.
    I would like to make the point that because of the reworking of official records it is not, and will not be in the foreseeable future, possible to say whether there is any large-scale warming or not.

  4. Wall is right. Canada cannot possibly reduce emissions to make any difference at all. I also do not have that much faith in current renewable, which create their own problems (e.g. bird deaths). If fossil fuels are a problem, then technology must find the solution. We are not likely to stop driving and in Canada we cannot avoid using fuel to heat our homes in the winter. This whole exercise is misguided and foolish.

  5. A remarkable departure from what might have come out of the mouth of lorne calvert or Dwaune lingenfarter.

  6. Enviromentalisms become a pagan new age cult of earth worshiping freakos just listen to their rediculous rants they make on Earthday(their favorite Holiday)all their oppistion to fracking and drilling for oil(it injured their mother Gaia)and just wait for them to be demanding human sacrifices of virgins and children

  7. John, agreed to all of that. Even if the records were not ‘adjusted’, the supposed global warming effect is a small fraction of natural year-to-year variation. The signal to noise ratio is dreadful.
    As to nuclear, we agree there as well. Problem is, Saskatchewan’s grid isn’t big enough to accommodate a full-size reactor, and unlike most other provinces, it has no large market in the US to sell surplus power. So there are only two real future possibilities: 1. enter into a joint venture with Alberta (fat chance with the antinuke Dippers running things); or 2. await for and encourage the development of SMRs. And there are lots of young Canadian startups worth watching over the next decade in this area.
    And Saskatchewan’s Sylvia Fedoruk Centre is doing as much as it can to promote and support the latter.

  8. Notley has 3 more years to make Alberta carbon free. I’m impressed with her progress thus far.

  9. Can anyone explain how a carbon tax will do anything except drive more business to places without carbon taxes?
    Say fer instance the carbon tax makes the difference that the Regina Evraz pipe mill loses a sale to the steel mills in China where 70% of their power comes from coal.
    How does that carbon tax reduce CO2 and real pollution then, in the real world, in a real economy?
    Instead of buying pipe locally from a relatively clean steel mill in Regina the pipe will come by Bunker C burning ship from a steel mill in China where 70% of their electricity comes from coal.
    Where is the benefit to the environment?

  10. Not just Chinese mills..
    On two sites, in Calgary and Saskatoon, steel pipe from Vietnam, in large white stencil letters…

  11. Steve, well, she’s making business for lawyers in suing her own government power purchase contracts to remove shutdown provisions. A situation essentially identical to California’s fiasco in 1998. That’s progress, is it not? The question is, will it take a threatened bankruptcy by the power companies to make the Premier back down.
    It’s so strange; from one of the better governed provinces, Alberta has sunk to the basement in one election where it now joins Ontario in ineptitude.
    Stan, of course it won’t, but this is about Canada being a good Boy Scout (and mainly about scooping up some fresh government revenue.)

  12. He is right about the tax scam…but he is no ‘Luther’as long as he keeps preaching this false doctrine: “We want to have a strong policy in this province to fight climate change.”

  13. Not only that Stan, but as these “taxes” make Canadian consumers poorer, there will be a trickle down effect, people driving cars longer is one of those. So the over all age of the cars increases, so does their “condition”, which cause them to operate less efficiently, and there by creating more pollutants, and wasting more fuel. Also people will be less inclined to maintain them, and again, more waste, and on and on and on. These green idiots don’t think about unintended consequences. And there are several areas were this type of trickle down will occur, causing the exact reverse to what was intended.

  14. The government of Canada is basically delusional on this issue.
    At a press conference in Sudbury, the environment minister (I understand there is a new name but whatever) said that the recent Saskatchewan floods were a direct result of excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
    This is not proven science by any stretch of the imagination. I challenge the government to produce even a climate change friendly scientist who could prove this cause and effect.
    And were we not warned 20-30 years ago to expect more heat waves and droughts from atmospheric warming?
    Clearly the “science” just changes with the weather.
    I can give you a more reliable cause and effect — greed of the public sector drives the call for higher taxes. Get some scientists to study that, it might help.

  15. It’s why I didn’t vote in the last election, and never plan to again. There are exactly ZERO people who will tefuse to follow Germany, Spain, UK, Denmark, Greece, etc. down the well traveled path of guaranteed failure. No point voting when your only choice is all ahead full, or flank speed.

  16. Kevin, you’re not quite up to date, at least not with the UK. With Cameron departing, the government has pulled back on wind subsidies and contracts. And the creation of Tony Blair, the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) has just had the CC pulled out of it.

  17. There is no doubt it is a scam, it is just a wealth redistribution scheme, nothing more.
    It doesn’t discourage usage, just look at BC. The environutters claimed that after BC introduced its carbon tax, usage dropped, therefore it worked. of course, they never mentioned that the financial meltdown happened right after, with a resulting recession that had an effect here for the next year. Of course, when there is a narrow agenda, nothing else matters.
    Oh, and all those carbon taxes? They went to a tree plabting corporation, owner by a good BC Liberal friend, of course. And the rest? Well now, gotta cut cheques to the “low income” as a “carbon tax credit” you know, cuz, life is hard, ya know? My 22 yr old daughter, who now has a real job, used to get 3 BC cheques a year for $133 each. Now she doesn’t and says its not fair……..
    Fast forward to today. CCChristy CCClark has refused to increase the tax, after her environmental panel, including Tzeporah Berman of Greenpeace (the witch of Clayoquot Sound) recommended higher taxes. The first correction in policy in years from the BC LIEberals. Oh, and gasoline/diesel usage is increasing all the time, thanks ot population growth, and a healthy economy, something again, that is lost on the environutters, who hate healthy economies. They want us all to go back to being cave dwellers.
    Brad Wall is a breath of fresh air!

  18. Premier Wall in the role of Martin Luther, a reformer exposing CO2 indulgences”.
    Keeping the religious metaphor, the Trudeau Liberals are definitely false profits.
    Brad Wall, a statesman, whose counterparts, federally & provincially, are charlatans!

  19. we cannot avoid using fuel to heat our homes in the winter. unless we heat electrically with hydro and/or geothermal.
    However we could heat more efficiently than fossil fuel with thorium fuel in a nuclear reactor providing electricity to combine with geothermal. Most ground source geothermal will give a 2x to 3x multiplier on purchased electricity for heating and provide air conditioning in the summer as the excess heat is banked in the ground.

  20. So the over all age of the cars increases, so does their “condition”, which cause them to operate less efficiently, and there by creating more pollutants, and wasting more fuel.
    Not necessairly, my ’89 Toyotas get the same clean efficiency they did as new; no performance degradation as tested. They were designed to be maintained, not used till broke then thrown away. They’ll easily go half a million km, and are known for their longevity.
    As with anything, people can buy cheap disposable junk, or pay more for quality and endurance.

  21. Backdoor carbon tax…
    Instead of a tax, Wall said he is instead keen on technological innovation, such as the Boundary Dam carbon capture plant, to fight climate change
    Someone pretending to be a Luther without the guts to follow through…

  22. they can tax us until we choke. they can build windmills until there isn’t a piece of dirt left to stand on, they can put up solar panels and reflect heat in air to 1000 degrees, but they will never be able to change the climate. only the very stupid or the very arrogant think they are God and can control the climate.

  23. One thing at a time, Strad, one thing at a time. He’s stopping the notion of a national carbon tax which the feds are touting right now. The immediate important thing is keeping the feds OUT of provincial energy policy.

  24. My best friend … an avowed agnostic … reminds me constantly why he is an atheist … because he “has NO guilt”. Thankfully, he is also consistent in his belief system … as he carries -0- “Eco-guilt” as well. Sadly, all our HS graduates leave school fully indoctrinated to carry Eco-guilt, Inmmigrant-guilt, Wealthy Industrialized Western Society guilt, Medievil Christian Crusades guilt … ad nauseum.

  25. Just another Eco-fraud failing to calculate ALL the raw materials and energy needed to produce a NEW automobile. Hardly “more” efficient than my old 1991 BMW 325i with manual transmission that regularly passes the latest, most stringent CA air quality standards … toughest in the world. Sorry … I am MUCH MORE green than my NEW Prius-driving neighbors … when you consider the WHOLE life-cycle cost, of retaining and maintaining an ‘old’ automobile -vs- manufacturing a new one. I am personally SLOWING the rate of auto manufacturing … after all … isn’t that what the ‘greens’ are after ? Utilizing fewer natural resources and carbon-based energy ? I laugh at all the ‘greenies’ getting out of the Prius with cloth shopping bags … believing they are more ‘green’ than I am … pulling up in my olllllld small BMW coupe. Extending the life of this car makes me 1,000x more green than these self-deluded MO-rons in their shiny new Eco-autos. Silly greenies

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