The downside of the U.S. monopoly on Canadian exports is huge. Joe Oliver, Minister of Natural Resources told the B.C. Business Council in a speech Tuesday that the Canadian economy loses out on $18-billion annually – $50-million every day – because Canadian oil is sold into the U.S. market below market value.
For the Canadians on the front lines of environmental conservation initiatives, it’s all about saving the bears, caribou, salmon and so forth. But for the U.S. foundations that fund these initiatives, this is about oil.
The largest environmental initiatives in Canada are the Great Bear Rainforest on the north coast of B.C., the Canadian Boreal Initiative and the Yellowstone to Yukon Initiative. In all three, the big funder is an American foundation.
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The main funder of the Presidential Climate Project is the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (RBF), the same foundation that is behind-the-scenes on the campaign to block the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline and ban oil tanker traffic – but only on the strategic coast of British Columbia and in the Canadian arctic. Never mind the dozens of tankers that import oil to the U.S. on a daily basis, the Rockefeller Brothers are only against the tankers that would export Canadian oil to Asia.
Read the whole thing, then forward to your greenie friends. Providing you have any left.
PMSH…Frick the USSAR…start selling OUR(your employers)at world prices.
And….stop any eco-cultits,foreign or native, from screwing in the survival of our country.
That’s a basic agenda that Harper has been working on for years – to break Canada out of its somnabulent reliance on sending everything it has or makes, to the US market.
The past governments set up Canada to rely on only one outlet for exports: the USA. There isn’t another nation in the world so heavily reliant on one export location. Over 85% of our exports go to the US.
What do you think Harper has been doing these years? He’s been going around setting up trade agreements, with S.Korea, India, China and elsewhere, to import our goods. He’s been trying to reduce that dependency.
Everything is corrupt, nothing is what it seems to be. Just follow the money.
It is getting long past time to revoke the tax exempt status of these so called environmental groups, groups that are funded by organizations and individuals that want to undermine our industry and our sovereignty.
It is also long past time that our children in our schools are taught only one side of this shill game.
Showing this article to a greenie is like showing the Mona Lisa to a drunk.
They don’t recognize the value, have no interest in losing focus on their goal of making themselves feel good, and need a shower…
…with soap!!!!
Exactly,ET,and while PM Harper is trying to find new markets for us,the loyal MSM reviles him for wanting to travel safely in a Country where terrorist activity is common.
It’s like we have to babysit a bunch of ignorant whining retards that have no common sense or any idea where the money THEY get from the government comes from.
And if the NDP wins next May in B.C., you can bet the farm that “Yellowstone to Yukon” park will become a reality.
More hypocrisy from the left and their blind followers. Of course they won’t be happy until Canada is a giant park for their amusment.
But what do they do With all the heteronormative Eurosettlers?
Krause should get the Pulitzer.
What greenie friends? I don’t care to consort with traitors, communists and Gaia cultists, Kate.
In my experience, anyway, your typical greenie (the ones who actually believe the false prophecies of the likes of Suzuki Takayoshi) is a half-mad shrew long since passed over on the marriage market (for good reason), who quickly drives away any possible companions who aren’t her cats or lunatics like herself with her endless prattle about saving the earth. People like that have nothing I want.
Talk sense to the greenies? You’d be better off explaining the issue to their cats. What do they care? Precious few of them pay their own way in life, much less have families to look after. Welfare and busy-work government jobs don’t count.
$18 billion, about $550 for every man, woman and child in the Dominion or $2200 for a typical family of four. The typical family of four in this Dominion had far more need of that money than the blasted clan Rockefeller are ever likely to.
Trust me, only a small fraction of that went into bribing the Indians up north with pickups and drink to make trouble for businessmen trying to make money for themselves and jobs for decent people who wanted them for good measure. The Indians aren’t that expensive to bribe. Much of the balance presumably went to taxes to pay for the freebies Obama promised the “community.”
I wonder how much of the rest went towards Obama’s re-election campaign.
Thank you for finally getting it into the public dialogue that it has been Rockefeller foundation money/networks (among others) that has been funding zombie left activism. These are just the tip of the iceberg. The Rockefeller charity and foundation-washed money has, over the past few decades, funded radical left useful idiots into an army of “street politik and lawfare” warriors who politicians fear and capitulate to.
The monied interests behind this trespass of public will and democratic process have no sympathy for the causes they feed, only self interest. They use these zombie left hordes to shut down their competition or to cripple it so they can buy it cheap (under ghost corporations)or to frighten/intimidate resistant politicians into pushing public policy in the direction which most favors their interests.
Monied interest’s funding/networking/influence has driven the carbon trading scam, agenda 21 NGOs, but most of all, the political thrust for global governance and the weakening of national sovereignty over domestic public policy.
All these special interest trespasses on public interest have been formulated in Rockefeller and other exclusive public policy think tanks and funded into action through foundation funding and other monied interests “charity” networks. This is upscale purchase of political influence and it is causing a world of hurt for the common citizen.
This is the face of the enemy of all who value individual and national sovereignty, free market capitalism and populist constitutional democracy.
Is it only me or does anyone else get flapping “jazz hands” from their greenie friends after destroying their ridiculous David Suzuki talking points?
So what exactly is the reason we sell at below world price? Should we not sell at world price now that they denied the pipeline? Or just because we can?
Shared.
If the Mayor of Toronto can be ‘vacated’ from office for using a piece of paper with a city logo on it to fundraise for kids sports, is there not some way that a Mayor bought and paid for by American special interest groups be vacated too? WTF!
It is interesting but most of the ‘greens’, ie, those who are ‘passionate’ (their term) about the natural environment, live only in the large cities.
They live nowhere near anything to do with the natural environment; they have no contact with farms, farming and farm animals, no contact with fish, game or other animal species, no contact with insects, pests and plant and animal diseases.
They do get upset with the raccoon in their attic, and they get upset when the wind blows down their power lines because the trees nearby have not been trimmed.
But they never go near the hard reality of the ‘natural environment’.
Actually ET, they do go out into the environment (read: their personal playground). They go hiking, and sight-seeing and snowboarding in the back country. They get lost or hurt themselves falling off cliffs because they are unfamiliar with the terrain or put themselves in high-risk situations which then require that people who are trained in these conditions to put on their gear and at taxpayers’ expense, have to be rescued or brought back in a black bag.
They want to be able to hand feed grizzly bears which they are one with.
All of the above with special emphasis on pilgrim’s idea of revoking the charitable status of all these so-called charities.
Showing this “greenie” friends is useless as they have hooked into fraud hook line and sinker.
Rick has the point. Why do we sell for less??
Whether or not the deep pocketed US ENGOs have US energy supply as their prime motivation or not I’ll leave to others to speculate but I know a very compelling reason why Canada is targeted by these foundations. Most of Canada’s resources are found on public land. The US ENGOs have largely sterilized the economic rent capacity of US public lands (luckily for the US, most land is privately owned). Private land sterilization is expensive, requiring market rates even when expropriated.
The numerous large land-base “giveaways” in BC were leveraged with US foundation money at about $0.01 on the dollar. IOW $1,000,000 worth of “investment” in preservation activism tied up the equivalent value of land / resources, if under private ownership, of about $100,000,000 dollars. In terms of magnitude, you could suck every last dime out of all of these foundations by privatizing just half of the forested area of BC if they chose to buy it.
Canadian’s faith-based belief in the sanctity of public ownership under the control of the political pimping class has resulted in their being outsmarted by American green vulture capitalists.
You mean that corporate elite fat-cats are playing the greenies to do their bidding?
Rick, Chris, we sell to the US at below world prices for oil simply because of market supply and demand. Canada has only one possible customer because our supply is locked in, that’s the United States. That means that Canadian oil sells at a discount because there are no competing bidders for Canadian oil. In short, it’s a buyer’s market.
This is why completing Northern Gateway is the single most important infrastructure project Canada can do right now. And it’s why American foundations are pouring in money to stop it.
Grok, that’s exactly what’s happening. The Greenies are running a protection racket. They leave alone US private land development and get paid to go after Canadian public land development.
Et and glacierman we have an idiot in Calgary who bemoans and laments the plight of the grizzly bear, this clown prince of England one Nigel Douglass sits at the doorsteps of every so called news source in Calgary to rail on and on about there being no more grizzlys, meanwhile the extinct bears are so plentiful they are chasing the black bears out of the areas and breaking into buildings and bins for snacks. If only more of these idiot greenies would actually go out into the wilderness instead of extorting money and media time within the huge cities, Suzuki style, there would be more for their beloved bears to eat,.If they so want to be “one” with the bears, it requires wilderness introductions and face to muzzle meetings. In turn the bears would then quit wrecking ranchers facilities, after being fed up with greenies. It’s a win win. Vivian Krause has done more for Canada than all the hundreds of so called reporters being paid by the leftie media combined.
I’m sure it has never occurred to the more “green” on the political spectrum to ask what’s in it for the other guy.
Didn’t think so.
Rick, cgh:
There is a good article in today’s National Post on Enbridge’s seeking out other markets – including Eastern Canada.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/11/28/enbridge-looks-east-for-gateway-alternative/
Oh yes please. Send the oil our way… the refinery in Saint John and all New Brunswickers could use the business and the jobs…. well except those twead jacketed NDP voting wombats at UNB who protest any change or development.
Trace zakaat – get your answers.
Cyclist, Chris, so now the idea is that instead of sending a pipeline across one province, BC, we’re supposed to send it across four, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec?
Aside from the delusion that this will be an easier task with the ENGOs, there are several problems with this.
1. The demand is in Asia. Building to Saint John doesn’t help that in the slightest.
2. The NB refineries are sized for Atlantic Canada demand, not for world export markets. They will have to be expanded hugely to fill that role. And that ain’t gonna happen. Why? I followed the entire ridiculous circus from the NB green slime and their opposition to Canaport.
It needs to be recognized that at the end of the day there’s no accommodation with the green slime. The only real outcome is surrender to their demands or ram it down their throats. They are public enemy number one, but until the general public realizes this, nothing will change.
And until it does change, our national economic growth will continue to sink under 3%, capital will continue to flood to other countries with better rates of return at lower cost.
The real solution to this problem of Northern Gateway is simple. Alberta gets all the royalties; BC gets nothing. So, how big a share does BC need to actively support it?
I can’t believe that no one has mentioned that Rockefeller was the founder of Standard Oil, that is basically behind all the major oil companies today.
From Wiki- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil
The successor companies from Standard Oil’s breakup form the core of today’s US oil industry. (Several of these companies were considered among the Seven Sisters who dominated the industry worldwide for much of the 20th century.) They include:
Standard Oil of New Jersey (SONJ) – or Esso (S.O.) – renamed Exxon, now part of ExxonMobil. Standard Trust companies Carter Oil, Imperial Oil (Canada), and Standard of Louisiana were kept as part of Standard Oil of New Jersey after the breakup.
Standard Oil of New York – or Socony, merged with Vacuum – renamed Mobil, now part of ExxonMobil.
Standard Oil of California – or Socal – renamed Chevron, became ChevronTexaco, but returned to Chevron.
Standard Oil of Indiana – or Stanolind, renamed Amoco (American Oil Co.) – now part of BP.
Standard’s Atlantic and the independent company Richfield merged to form Atlantic Richfield or ARCO, now part of BP. Atlantic operations were spun off and bought by Sunoco.
Standard Oil of Kentucky – or Kyso was acquired by Standard Oil of California – currently Chevron.
Continental Oil Company – or Conoco now part of ConocoPhillips.
Standard Oil of Ohio – or Sohio, acquired by BP in 1987.
The Ohio Oil Company – or The Ohio, and marketed gasoline under the Marathon name. The company is now known as Marathon Oil Company, and was often a rival with the in-state Standard spinoff, Sohio.
Other Standard Oil spin-offs:
Standard Oil of Iowa – pre-1911 – became Standard Oil of California.
Standard Oil of Minnesota – pre-1911 – bought by Standard Oil of Indiana.
Standard Oil of Illinois – pre-1911 – bought by Standard Oil of Indiana.
Standard Oil of Kansas – refining only, eventually bought by Indiana Standard.
Standard Oil of Missouri – pre-1911 – dissolved.
Standard Oil of Louisiana – always owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey (now ExxonMobil).
Standard Oil of Brazil – always owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey (now ExxonMobil).
Other companies divested in the 1911 breakup:
Anglo-American Oil Co. – acquired by Jersey Standard in 1930, now Esso UK.
Buckeye Pipe Line Co.
Borne-Scrymser Co. (chemicals)
Chesebrough Manufacturing (now Unilever)
Colonial Oil.
Crescent Pipeline Co.
Cumberland Pipe Line Co.
Eureka Pipe Line Co.
Galena-Signal Oil Co.
Indiana Pipe Line Co.
National Transit Co.
New York Transit Co.
Northern Pipe Line Co.
Prairie Oil & Gas.
Solar Refining.
Southern Pipe Line Co.
South Penn Oil Co. – eventually became Pennzoil, now part of Shell.
Southwest Pennsylvania Pipe Line Co.
Swan and Finch.
Union Tank Lines.
Washington Oil Co.
Waters-Pierce.