109 Replies to “Bye, Bye Dalton”

  2. Morontario got the government it deserved, didn’t it? Re-elected this schmuck twice, reflects the intelligence of the voters.

  4. Quite proud of my MPP Vic Fedeli who has not let up on Mcguinty,Bently and others since getting elected. Pretty sure this is a result of his persistance.
    janet…my exact thought.

  5. McGuinty is getting hammered by all sides. The left thinks he’s part of the vast “neo-liberal conspiracy” with his public sector wage freezes and reluctance to raise taxes as much as they’d like, the right hates him for his lousy energy policies (and more.)
    I don’t think he’s completely stupid. I do think that he’s realizing just how big of a loss he took by betting everything on wind. And those costs are just starting to be felt. It’s not going to be fun to be premier in the coming months and years.
    Whoever’s in power is going to have to choose between dumping wind as fast as possible or scaling back the public sector…
    Hmm. Maybe McGuinty IS a diabolical neo-liberal mastermind after all!

  7. Joe, I agree, but Hudak will get another kick at the can.
    cgh, exactly. The people of Ontario have not yet realized why they are now a have-not province. Think of B.C. and California.

  8. Now where are all those editorials declaring “prorogue an affront to democracy” now that a Liberal government uses it to buy time.
    …crickets….

  9. The stupid, crazy koolaid drinking left wing voters of Ontario will think the new Liberal leader to be so much better than Mcstupid. They think that anyone running under the Liberal banner has to better than the evil Conservatives. Never under estimate the stupidity of the left.

  10. TOutcas: “Whoever’s in power is going to have to choose between dumping wind as fast as possible or scaling back the public sector…”
    Why not both.

  11. Gutless and spineless come to mind, he’s copping out, no court appearances for him.
    Let’s keep talking about that dreaded procedure called “prorogue”. The very idea of proroguing when the province is in such a mess is a scandal in itself.

  12. So, any theories as to what precipitated this? It’s pretty unusual for a premier to abandon ship after he WON an election. What’s going on??

  14. If Obama loses his election, the Ontario Libs could invite him to Ontario, arrange for some kind of instant citizenship (or he might claim to have really been born in Canada) and annoint him party leader & premier. He’d fit in perfectly, he’s an extreme lefty, is into green energy, loves to create giant deficits, is not very good at creating jobs, likes to blame his failures on others, is sypathetic towards the gay crowd and Muslims and the list goes on. Ontario left supporters won’t even notice the change from one dear leader to the next.

  17. This man will not be held responsible for the corrupt crimes that happened in his purview; he will be given some official synecure for the rest of his very comfortable and easy life of public self-service.

  18. That he resigns in comfort before being defeated just shows how he doesn’t give a carp about his terrible reign.
    Dalton: “I’ve screwed your economy and finances and put in place decade-long contracts to force you to pay too much money to foreign windmill makers, my friends, and similar schysters. I now expect my legacy will be sufficiently munificient for me”

  19. Now that beady little eyes, Dufus McGoofy is gone, any bets that George Slitherman will be the next slime bucket to take us down the fiscal and moral cliff?

  20. Ellie, there are two key elements as to why McGuinty resigned. First is the issue of the Mississauga and Oakville gas plants. The problem of punting a billion dollars was bad enough. However, Bentley would undoubtedly have been found in contempt of the legislature on the grounds of Misleading Parliament.
    Second and probably just as important, the principal ally of the Liberals has been the public sector unions. They, and the teachers’ unions in particular, have essentially declared war on McGuinty’s Liberals. Bob Rae had the same thing happen to him in the early 1990s. McGuinty knows his history; the Liberals cannot survive another election if their principal backers loathe the current leader.

  21. “McGuinty also said that he visited Lieut.-Gov. David Onley earlier in the day and asked him to prorogue the Legislature. McGuinty said the move is necessary for the Liberal government to negotiate a wage-freeze agreement with the province’s public-sector workers in an effort to eliminate the province’s deficit.
    McGuinty blamed the suspension of the Legislature on the opposition parties’ unwillingness to support his government’s efforts to secure that wage freeze.
    He said he wants to be able to pursue discussions with labour groups, and the opposition, “in a way that is free of the heightened rancour that has sadly too frequently characterized our Legislature of late.”
    When the House returns, he said, “we will either have negotiated agreements in hand, or a legislative plan supported by the opposition.””
    — From the CTV News story on the subject.
    So, just so I’m clear:
    1. He’s quitting, so he can now go out and conduct secret negotiations with the public sector unions for a wage freeze — negotiations in respect of which he has no authority, on account of having voted no confidence in himself by quitting and on account of prorogation (surely whatever authority he may have had derived from his position in the Legislative Assembly).
    2. Quite apart from which, a wage freeze will not solve the Province’s deficit problem.
    3. Public scrutiny of the process cannot occur, you know, in public — the opposition parties are to be involved, but not, evidently, in their role as, er, the opposition in the Legislative Assembly.
    4. The negotiations, in has been predetermined, can lead to only one of two possible outcomes.
    Have I got that right?
    Assuming I do, I’d just ask:
    1. Why would the public sector unions negotiate with him?
    2. Why would the opposition parties support any alternative to the inevitable failure of said negotiations?
    3. What are the timelines for any of this stuff?
    So, it seems to me that Mr. McGuinty has made Ontario ungovernable on the strength (or lack thereof) of his own behaviour. As such, he has no alternative but to hand in the seals of office and to advise the Lieutenant-Governor to invite Mr. Hudak to try to form a government. Mr. Hudak should meet the House and call immediately for a confidence vote (which Mr. Hudak will not likely survive), whereupon we will need to move immediately to a general election.

  23. ” Q&A: Who is “Spinsella”? ” —Posted by: maz2 at October 15, 2012 7:55 PM
    Wow,that is really strange. I think that WK has misread his medicine bottle,again. The Sun must be keeping him on staff for comic relief.

  24. oo (8:14 pm), ii, so, ok, new, or whoever you happen to be today, why do you even bother?
    It appears you have ‘cut and paste’ mastered, now look at the gobbidlygook you come up with. Do you not see the difference? Or is it you just don’t give a rip?
    The first line of your posts are a clear signal for most of us to just go ‘next’!
    But maybe better on this blog than elsewhere, where like-minded (sic) creatures dwell.

  25. David, not quite. McGuinty is resigning as Premier. He won’t be negotiating anything. What this means is that he understands that he has become so hated by the public sector unions that negotiations cannot proceed as long as he is in place. The negotiations will be led by whoever the Liberals select to become Interim Premier.
    And that’s the real question. Who does the Liberal caucus pick to replace him and from which end of the party spectrum will the new leader come? They have a problem there, because the right wing of the Liberals was virtually wiped out by the Tories in the past provincial election.

  26. The non-confidence motion was coming, as was the censure against the Energy Minister…and the investigations into the Power Plants…etc…
    McGuinty was known as Mr. Teflon for a reason; it is great to see something finally stick. The prorogue is his last great act as a politician.
    He is as true as a Liberal as they come. And I despite it.

  27. The Thoroughbred and Standardbred Horse Breeding aand Racing communities I suspect will be re-trenching their forces as well with the Ontario Lottery & gaming commission.
    THe McGuinty Libs are into that dirty mess as well!

  28. I can’t believe this slippery rat has finally been cornered. The CBC actually led off the National associating Guinty’s decision with the gas plant scandal closing in on him. The Sun had Kinsella on speculating it could be motivated to run federally. WTF?

  30. The thing that always perplexed me about Mr McGuinty was his smug sanctimonious speaking style. What exactly was there about his government’s tenure in Ontario that warranted “smug”. One thing for sure, he made Bob Rae’s “reign of error” look brilliant by comparison.

  32. Boy something must have sure lit a fire under his arse ……… finally….
    Maybe he doesn’t want to be around when somebody half honest figures out how big of a hole he dug for the serfs.

  33. TOutcas: “Whoever’s in power is going to have to choose between dumping wind as fast as possible or scaling back the public sector..
    There will be no choice, the wind boondoggle has completely run its course. See the latest “stinking fans” post below, Danish giant Vestas cannot stay in business without massive government subsidies. These are the green fantasy jobs McGuinty was crowing about. A suceeding government will have to deal with the legal medicine right now. Thanks a lot Dalton, great legacy.

  34. Bob Fife in convo with LaFlamme on CTV… “[McGuinty’s] in a battle with public sector unions and his dealing with some ‘minor’ scandals”.
    Yes, he did say “minor”. lol

  37. I’ll bet Dalton is going to run for the Federal leadership. Probably he has people encouraging him. That would suggest that the Liberals are not as confident about Justin as we are being made to think. But what if Jean Charest also decides to run for the Libs. That would be a problem for Dalton. Well, things are getting interesting anyway.
    The other possibility is something very nasty about to emerge in Ontario. My suspicion is that this is a career move for Dalton.

  38. About foucking time. He’s still getting a pension after the sqauller he’s left I presume.
    bverwey

  39. @ ok at October 15, 2012 11:17 PM
    I think you should run for political office. You certainly exceed the requirements that have elected Ontario politicians.

  42. peterj @ 6:59 said all that needed to be said, in the second comment in the thread.
    Terrible premier. Probably worse than Bob Rae, in retrospect.

  43. ‘ok’ for federal Liberal leader!!! Beats the hell out of Dalton McGuinty, Ken Dryden or Kim Justin-il.

  45. @ ok at October 16, 2012 1:36 AM
    See what I mean ? You’ve got it all and you go girl! Now if you could only brush up on your english and up your Prozac to a full bucket a day you would be a perfect candidate. Oh…and drop all the other net names you use, you know, like ii, new ,etc. Also , stop ragging on the Jews as they still outnumber your Muslim friends and you will need their votes. Just remember…if Dalton can do it….anyone can. You go girl.

  47. The coward has robbed me of the pleasure of kicking his a%% to the curb in the next OntariOWE election.

  50. For some reason, the picture that comes to mind is of ‘Norman Bates’ McGuinty dusting his hands off as he proudly surveys the absolute wreckage of the once successful province of Ontario.
    “My work here is done…”

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