This is the kind of behavior makes a mockery of democracy, transparency, and honesty.
White House sympathies would suggest that the 17% might just have reason for their suspicions.
Wow, they really don’t have a clue! I seem to remember a momentary gaff by an unlucky politician in Canada that helped relegate him to the dustbins of history due at least in a small part from calling Jerusalem the capital.
One would think the White House would know this!
Recognition of the end of an Administration. When the staff become so suspicious of a once “in the bag” White House Press Core, that the staff member is afraid of being set up it reveals the increasing paronoia. Cheers;
Walter – I think that was Joe Clark, it’s a shame he was criticized for that as opposed to his other crap.
The great thing about this clip is the mocking he receives from the dems usual supporters in the media. Cracks are showing in Fortress MSM.
Carney’s teleprompter must have locked up.
They should upgrade from Win98.
whoops! paranoia
Walter @ 10:08 AM. WHAT??? You mean it isn’t Jerusalem? And we didn’t land at Norway during D-Day? And Vichy Ridge wasn’t a great WWI victory for us?
I would lay even odds that if you asked Carney(isn’t that a fair barker’s nick?)or the Zero,they would wonder which beach in Omaha was big enough to take a D-Day landing,or if the city even had beaches.
Ken (Kulak)…it’s the other 83% that worry me.Ain’t our school systems wunderbar?
Slightly O/T,but why isn’t the Zero in London for the Game’s opening ceremonies?Afraid of the gift he might get from the Queen? (Maybe an open thread topic,Kate?)
Ok let’s say Obama was really a muslim? why would this matter?
Most people don’t choice their religion anyway.
He should have said you have to vote Obama to find out. Pull a Pelossi.
And for the quebecois dipper islam the religion is not the issue here. The problem is islam the philosophy and if you aren’t sure what that is google “saudi arabia”.
If he really WAS a Muslim it would mean he considers US lesser beings.
Obama admits to being raised as a Muslim,then allegedly converting to Christianity. His conversion may or may not be sincere,only his conscience knows,if he has one.
Catholic friends used to tell me that if they “got” a kid early,even if he converted to Protestantism, that kid would still call for a Priest on his deathbed.
We will see,in thirty or so years, who Obama asks for when his time to shuffle off comes. Any bets?
And I wouldn’t vote for Obama regardless of his religion,he’s a bloody amateur,affirmative-action politician and has been from the start of his career.
BTW, tell me a significant country that recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
Even Bush didn’t do it in 8 years.
Picking on Obama for that is shameful.
4 MORE YEARS!!!!
Strange. The FACTS are that Jerusalem is the official capital and that most nations locate their embassies in Tel Aviv.
For Carney to refuse to state the simple facts suggests that Obama supports the Islamist view that Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.
To say that ‘our position hasn’t changed’ doesn’t, as noted, answer the question. All he had to do would be to ‘repeat that position’. But he refused; therefore, the Obama White House HAS changed the American position and refuses to recognize that Jerusalem is the capital.
Quebec-wha… NDP … Why don’t the muslims choose their religion ? I choose mine. Freedom is nice to have.
I was baptized a catholic as a young child. I didn’t choice that.
Now as an adult I reject religion or even the existence of God. I am an atheist.
Yet you have to understand that in the USA there is stigma for a politician to reject religion. I believe Obama is secretly an atheist but he can’t say it publicly because he would be lynched politically.
quebecois – this thread isn’t about religious choice. It’s about the identity of Israel.
Israel itself has chosen its capital and after all, that is the right of a sovereign nation. The problem is that Jerusalem was captured and occupied by both the Israeli and Jordanian armies; that there is a West and East Palestine; that both the Judaic and Islamic religions claim it as a sacred religious site, as does the Christian.
In 2008 in a campaign speech Obama told the AIPAC conference in Washington that “Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.” But remember, Obama operates totally within words and his words have one agenda: to control you. So, those words last only as long as his manipulation of you lasts.
All that Carney had to do would be to state that ‘this is a contentious and internationally debated issue; Israel recognizes Jerusalem as its capital; our embassy is in Tel Aviv.’ Period.
Or he could have said that: ‘President Obama in 2008 did declare that Jerusalem is the capital but he now states that Israel defines Jerusalem as its capital and our embassy is in Tel Aviv’.
Quebecois NDP separatiste: Ok let’s say Obama was really a muslim? why would this matter?
It matters because he claims to be a Christian.
ET, it’s a wonderful illustration of the fact that within the Obama administration everything is subject to change without notice, and that the administration has essentially no governing principles.
This is as bad as Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia. History is rewritten even as we speak. Now, subsequent to the AIPAC conference to which you refer, there was that maundering from Obama a couple of years ago that Israel should withdraw to the pre-1967 demarcation lines. Naturally in support of that, the administration would presumably then reject any notion that Jerusalem was the capital and thus suppress any prior suggestions otherwise.
Obama is supposed to be a highbrow intellectual, and he’s supposed to have picked such for his cabinent. But I swear I’ve never seen a US administration as intellectually bankrupt as this one. Bush may not have been the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but at least he surrounded himself with smart people. Even if some of them (Rumsfeld) were too smart for their own good.
Such a simple question with a simple answer. “The capital of Jerusalem is whatever Israel says it is.”
Atheism is an angry child storming off to his room.
When the dinner bell rings, hunger sets in.
Unietzsche
Islam is an angry parent.
Does the dipper from Quebec have any reasoning skills at all? IF he was baptized as an infant THEN chose to be an atheist there is choice of religion. Atheism like Catholicism is a religion.
cgh – yes, that’s one of the fascinating things about Obama: his paucity of historic, economic, political knowledge and his obvious shallow and uncurious intellect.
This can be seen not merely in his ignorance of ‘what is an actual economy’ – as differentiated from his focus on ‘what is my utopian society’; on his ignorance of history, eg, his blathering on with his speech as the UK head table rose, went silent and played its national anthem of God Save the Queen; his ‘in Austria they speak Austrian’…oh and so on.
The fact is, Obama lives entirely in a virtual world, a world made up entirely of words unrelated to the objective real world. Two virtual worlds. One is the Up Front Obama world, where words have one function. Not to represent reality, facts, information. But instead to cajole, manipulate, program you into accepting being in His control.
Then, when removed from the perimeters of the teleprompter, the real Obama in his Hidden World emerges in his words, in all his ignorance, bigotry, racism, class hatred, anti-Americanism. This realm is as virtual, as divorced from reality as his Up Front Obama.
As for Obama being a Christian or a Muslim, heh, he’s an Obamist. However, I think that emotionally he sympathizes with the Islamic world. That’s been rather obvious in his insults to the UK and other European allies and his hands-off approach to the fascism in the Islamic nations.
Hey Joe:
Your comment ‘Atheism like Catholicism is a religion. ‘….reminds me of the Newfoundland expression about the worst thing you can have on a house – no porch!
Cheers!
Their position is that they do not like to discuss the Zionist entity unless it is to criticize the Israeli aggressors, and that position has not changed.
Hey Joe:
Your comment ‘Atheism like Catholicism is a religion. ‘….reminds me of the Newfoundland expression about the worst thing you can have on a house – no porch!
Cheers!
Posted by: Atheist at July 27, 2012 3:31 PM
No atheist,,,,reminds me of the newf saying stay where yur’e at til I comes where you’r to.A belief in nothing,is still a belief.
And the Queerbecer does definitely believe in something….parasitism,otherwise known as socialism.
Besides,as others stated,this has zip to do with religion.If Isreal wants to name a kibbutz as its capital,that is Isreal’s right as a sovereign state.(I know,I know.Leftards believe no one,except them,has rights)
The usual political cop out.
People, if Jerusalem is the capital of Israel then why aren’t the Arab resident of east Jerusalem not Israeli citizen?
Free my comment from the spam filter please.
I bet a lot more than 17% believe hes a Muslim shill. There just to afraid to say it in Obamas America.
QNS … you may as well ponder why you don’t hva a clue what you are talking about.
Quebec NDP – You didn’t “choice” religion? Try speaking English will ya? By the way,there is definitely a stigma for rejecting religion in Canada too, i.e. you won’t get my vote. But then again, pretty much every Catholic I have known in politics is an absolute joke – Trudeau, Chretien, Clark, Paul whatzis name, Mulroney, and isn’t Mr. McGuinty and his wife, fine examples of Catholicism in action?
Larben,
One should be pulled apart for stupid ideas, if the “English” is not perfect word selection? So freaking what,not everyone’s native tongue is English. There is more then enough to pull Quebecois NDP separatiste part on. To pick on the wrong choice of tense in a sentence/word is a weak position, especially when their whole posting history makes my five year old look more politically astute and sophisticated.
You have been following my comment history? Don’t know if you’re just weird or have good taste! I have never accepted bilingualism as a Canadian and never will. Don’t care if you like that or not. I’m tired of listening to whining from Quebec and I sense that the rest of Canada is too. I live in Burnaby and find that most of the Chinese living here, many for decades, have never, and intend never, to learn English. Sorry, but I do not consider them to be Canadians either. Whatcha gonna do about it?
Oh, and Grey Lady, it had nothing to do with tense, the guy was using a noun as a verb (as far as I could make out) but it was his typically French Canadian attitude that set me off. They’ve blamed the Church for all their (mostly, imagined) problems. And although this attitude is wide-spread throughout the province, it is generally the urban areas that has turned its back on their traditional beliefs just as they did in Revolutionary France.
“…17 Percent Of Registered Voters Think Obama Is Muslim…”
And the other 83 percent know he’s a peckerhead…but his fellow peckerheads vote for him anyway.
This is the kind of behavior makes a mockery of democracy, transparency, and honesty.
White House sympathies would suggest that the 17% might just have reason for their suspicions.
Wow, they really don’t have a clue! I seem to remember a momentary gaff by an unlucky politician in Canada that helped relegate him to the dustbins of history due at least in a small part from calling Jerusalem the capital.
One would think the White House would know this!
Recognition of the end of an Administration. When the staff become so suspicious of a once “in the bag” White House Press Core, that the staff member is afraid of being set up it reveals the increasing paronoia. Cheers;
Walter – I think that was Joe Clark, it’s a shame he was criticized for that as opposed to his other crap.
The great thing about this clip is the mocking he receives from the dems usual supporters in the media. Cracks are showing in Fortress MSM.
Carney’s teleprompter must have locked up.
They should upgrade from Win98.
whoops! paranoia
Walter @ 10:08 AM. WHAT??? You mean it isn’t Jerusalem? And we didn’t land at Norway during D-Day? And Vichy Ridge wasn’t a great WWI victory for us?
I would lay even odds that if you asked Carney(isn’t that a fair barker’s nick?)or the Zero,they would wonder which beach in Omaha was big enough to take a D-Day landing,or if the city even had beaches.
Ken (Kulak)…it’s the other 83% that worry me.Ain’t our school systems wunderbar?
Slightly O/T,but why isn’t the Zero in London for the Game’s opening ceremonies?Afraid of the gift he might get from the Queen? (Maybe an open thread topic,Kate?)
Ok let’s say Obama was really a muslim? why would this matter?
Most people don’t choice their religion anyway.
He should have said you have to vote Obama to find out. Pull a Pelossi.
And for the quebecois dipper islam the religion is not the issue here. The problem is islam the philosophy and if you aren’t sure what that is google “saudi arabia”.
If he really WAS a Muslim it would mean he considers US lesser beings.
Obama admits to being raised as a Muslim,then allegedly converting to Christianity. His conversion may or may not be sincere,only his conscience knows,if he has one.
Catholic friends used to tell me that if they “got” a kid early,even if he converted to Protestantism, that kid would still call for a Priest on his deathbed.
We will see,in thirty or so years, who Obama asks for when his time to shuffle off comes. Any bets?
And I wouldn’t vote for Obama regardless of his religion,he’s a bloody amateur,affirmative-action politician and has been from the start of his career.
BTW, tell me a significant country that recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?
Even Bush didn’t do it in 8 years.
Picking on Obama for that is shameful.
4 MORE YEARS!!!!
Strange. The FACTS are that Jerusalem is the official capital and that most nations locate their embassies in Tel Aviv.
For Carney to refuse to state the simple facts suggests that Obama supports the Islamist view that Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.
To say that ‘our position hasn’t changed’ doesn’t, as noted, answer the question. All he had to do would be to ‘repeat that position’. But he refused; therefore, the Obama White House HAS changed the American position and refuses to recognize that Jerusalem is the capital.
Quebec-wha… NDP … Why don’t the muslims choose their religion ? I choose mine. Freedom is nice to have.
I was baptized a catholic as a young child. I didn’t choice that.
Now as an adult I reject religion or even the existence of God. I am an atheist.
Yet you have to understand that in the USA there is stigma for a politician to reject religion. I believe Obama is secretly an atheist but he can’t say it publicly because he would be lynched politically.
quebecois – this thread isn’t about religious choice. It’s about the identity of Israel.
Israel itself has chosen its capital and after all, that is the right of a sovereign nation. The problem is that Jerusalem was captured and occupied by both the Israeli and Jordanian armies; that there is a West and East Palestine; that both the Judaic and Islamic religions claim it as a sacred religious site, as does the Christian.
In 2008 in a campaign speech Obama told the AIPAC conference in Washington that “Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.” But remember, Obama operates totally within words and his words have one agenda: to control you. So, those words last only as long as his manipulation of you lasts.
All that Carney had to do would be to state that ‘this is a contentious and internationally debated issue; Israel recognizes Jerusalem as its capital; our embassy is in Tel Aviv.’ Period.
Or he could have said that: ‘President Obama in 2008 did declare that Jerusalem is the capital but he now states that Israel defines Jerusalem as its capital and our embassy is in Tel Aviv’.
Quebecois NDP separatiste: Ok let’s say Obama was really a muslim? why would this matter?
It matters because he claims to be a Christian.
ET, it’s a wonderful illustration of the fact that within the Obama administration everything is subject to change without notice, and that the administration has essentially no governing principles.
This is as bad as Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia. History is rewritten even as we speak. Now, subsequent to the AIPAC conference to which you refer, there was that maundering from Obama a couple of years ago that Israel should withdraw to the pre-1967 demarcation lines. Naturally in support of that, the administration would presumably then reject any notion that Jerusalem was the capital and thus suppress any prior suggestions otherwise.
Obama is supposed to be a highbrow intellectual, and he’s supposed to have picked such for his cabinent. But I swear I’ve never seen a US administration as intellectually bankrupt as this one. Bush may not have been the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but at least he surrounded himself with smart people. Even if some of them (Rumsfeld) were too smart for their own good.
Such a simple question with a simple answer. “The capital of Jerusalem is whatever Israel says it is.”
Atheism is an angry child storming off to his room.
When the dinner bell rings, hunger sets in.
Unietzsche
Islam is an angry parent.
Does the dipper from Quebec have any reasoning skills at all? IF he was baptized as an infant THEN chose to be an atheist there is choice of religion. Atheism like Catholicism is a religion.
cgh – yes, that’s one of the fascinating things about Obama: his paucity of historic, economic, political knowledge and his obvious shallow and uncurious intellect.
This can be seen not merely in his ignorance of ‘what is an actual economy’ – as differentiated from his focus on ‘what is my utopian society’; on his ignorance of history, eg, his blathering on with his speech as the UK head table rose, went silent and played its national anthem of God Save the Queen; his ‘in Austria they speak Austrian’…oh and so on.
The fact is, Obama lives entirely in a virtual world, a world made up entirely of words unrelated to the objective real world. Two virtual worlds. One is the Up Front Obama world, where words have one function. Not to represent reality, facts, information. But instead to cajole, manipulate, program you into accepting being in His control.
Then, when removed from the perimeters of the teleprompter, the real Obama in his Hidden World emerges in his words, in all his ignorance, bigotry, racism, class hatred, anti-Americanism. This realm is as virtual, as divorced from reality as his Up Front Obama.
As for Obama being a Christian or a Muslim, heh, he’s an Obamist. However, I think that emotionally he sympathizes with the Islamic world. That’s been rather obvious in his insults to the UK and other European allies and his hands-off approach to the fascism in the Islamic nations.
Hey Joe:
Your comment ‘Atheism like Catholicism is a religion. ‘….reminds me of the Newfoundland expression about the worst thing you can have on a house – no porch!
Cheers!
Their position is that they do not like to discuss the Zionist entity unless it is to criticize the Israeli aggressors, and that position has not changed.
Hey Joe:
Your comment ‘Atheism like Catholicism is a religion. ‘….reminds me of the Newfoundland expression about the worst thing you can have on a house – no porch!
Cheers!
Posted by: Atheist at July 27, 2012 3:31 PM
No atheist,,,,reminds me of the newf saying stay where yur’e at til I comes where you’r to.A belief in nothing,is still a belief.
And the Queerbecer does definitely believe in something….parasitism,otherwise known as socialism.
Besides,as others stated,this has zip to do with religion.If Isreal wants to name a kibbutz as its capital,that is Isreal’s right as a sovereign state.(I know,I know.Leftards believe no one,except them,has rights)
The usual political cop out.
People, if Jerusalem is the capital of Israel then why aren’t the Arab resident of east Jerusalem not Israeli citizen?
Free my comment from the spam filter please.
I bet a lot more than 17% believe hes a Muslim shill. There just to afraid to say it in Obamas America.
QNS … you may as well ponder why you don’t hva a clue what you are talking about.
Quebec NDP – You didn’t “choice” religion? Try speaking English will ya? By the way,there is definitely a stigma for rejecting religion in Canada too, i.e. you won’t get my vote. But then again, pretty much every Catholic I have known in politics is an absolute joke – Trudeau, Chretien, Clark, Paul whatzis name, Mulroney, and isn’t Mr. McGuinty and his wife, fine examples of Catholicism in action?
Larben,
One should be pulled apart for stupid ideas, if the “English” is not perfect word selection? So freaking what,not everyone’s native tongue is English. There is more then enough to pull Quebecois NDP separatiste part on. To pick on the wrong choice of tense in a sentence/word is a weak position, especially when their whole posting history makes my five year old look more politically astute and sophisticated.
Related:
http://www.imao.us/index.php/2012/07/jay-carney-refuses-to-identify-capital-of-the-united-states/
You have been following my comment history? Don’t know if you’re just weird or have good taste! I have never accepted bilingualism as a Canadian and never will. Don’t care if you like that or not. I’m tired of listening to whining from Quebec and I sense that the rest of Canada is too. I live in Burnaby and find that most of the Chinese living here, many for decades, have never, and intend never, to learn English. Sorry, but I do not consider them to be Canadians either. Whatcha gonna do about it?
Oh, and Grey Lady, it had nothing to do with tense, the guy was using a noun as a verb (as far as I could make out) but it was his typically French Canadian attitude that set me off. They’ve blamed the Church for all their (mostly, imagined) problems. And although this attitude is wide-spread throughout the province, it is generally the urban areas that has turned its back on their traditional beliefs just as they did in Revolutionary France.
“…17 Percent Of Registered Voters Think Obama Is Muslim…”
And the other 83 percent know he’s a peckerhead…but his fellow peckerheads vote for him anyway.