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Well yeah, sure rape is kinda bad but I mean come on this B1TCH!!!!
SHE IGNORED A JUDGE’S ORDER!!!!
How dare she not worship the words of a lawyer!Throw the book at her!
Maybe someone should assist the defence attorney for these 2 aszholes with his legal education.
I mean by dragging him out into the alley and beating him to a shivering pulp.
Maybe then he will be aware that having rape victims jailed is not a brilliant career move.
Mind you, the judge could probably benifit from such a lesson as well.
Maybe someone should assist the defence attorney for these 2 aszholes with his legal education.
I mean by dragging him out into the alley and beating him to a shivering pulp.
Maybe then he will be aware that having rape victims jailed is not a brilliant career move.
Mind you, the judge could probably benifit from such a lesson as well.
F the judge and the crooked lawyers who want to silence a victim. State justice is a joke, either tooooo harsh or toooo lax. It’s all about keep the parasites ( court agents, police) sucking of the pus of life.
No one tells a good woman to shutup and gets away with it,as it should be.
Law is to justice as pomegranites are to tomatoes…
Yeah jus’ cause ya go ta court…don’ mean y’all will get justice…my daddy said…
john at July 22, 2012 5:48 PM
I’ll hold yer coat….
Good for her. Hopefully the publicity buries the moroon of a judge and the lawyers.
Sounds like Saudi Arabia. Accuse the rape victim. She probably did this because the perps are rich with family political pull, so it would never end in court.
Need the home address for these losers and the judge as well.
Stupidity like theirs should be rewarded.
Need the home address for these losers and the judge as well.
Stupidity like theirs should be rewarded.
Any second now hundreds of cvourageous, ethical lawyers will rush in here to explain and justify how this behavior is ethical and right!
Any second now…….
Right away……
Umm… Hullo-oh!? ethical lawyers?….Rushing IN!?
Oh forget it
I am all for the victim and the action she took. However think about it; a 17 year old girl who drank so much at a party that she passes out. It’s like leaving your wallet in plain sight on the seat of an unoccupied unlocked car. Now don’t you all get your knickers all in a twist, I am not blaming the victim. She is not the criminal. But if you knew your teenage sister or daughter was passing out drunk at parties, you would want to ground her, right??
If it wasn’t for idiots like these two women could get drunk and pass out at parties ,just like men do.
@canuck guy
And if society ie parents were raising moral kids we would not have to worry about either the rapists or the teenaged alcoholic . Irregardless a woman should feel safe around her friends don’t you think these boys have no morals and look at women as meat ….welcome to a liberal society social engineering at its finest feminism has worked wonders ,.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
” I am not blaming the victim ”
Of course not,you’re making excuses for the pervs,I hope you are never near my kids.
How do we know she is a teenaged alcoholic? She could have been given the date rape drug.
In any case, it doesn’t matter. She was raped, raped, raped and the two criminals that did it stand to get less than she will.
Justice isn’t blind. It’s friggin’ brain dead.
Call me a contrarian, but you break the law…you pay the piper. There was a gag order on the case and until the trial verdict is read, or the plea bargain is accepted by the court (and so ordered), that gag order is in effect.
I am reminded of David Evans, Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann. I should have never heard of those names. They should be strangers. Yet, because a hooker/stripper/opportunist (Crystal Magnum) decided to make a few bucks, and because a crap load of liberal idiots enabled her…I know those names. Yet, they were innocent.
There is a reason for gag orders, even if it doesn’t seem too apparent in this particular case. Incidentally, had she waited until after the plea bargain was ordered…and provided the PA didn’t include a gag as part of the plea…she could have twittered to her heart’s content after the case was concluded.
Cheers,
The Worm
And once again, it is “Law Enforcement” that is enabling the judge, the prosecutor, and the defendants’ attorneys. May every one of them rot in hell for what they have done.
Or just how long do you think that judge, prosecutor, and attorneys would last without the pigs protecting them?
Mark Matis 8:07pm has it right.
Judges live in wealthy, safe neighborhoods, the kind that have private security patrols. They have preferential response time by the police. They have personal bodyguards. They work in fortresses with armed guards. Why on earth would they give a sh*t about the victims of crime?
Those are little people.
Contempt of court is serious, but a gag order is WAAYY out of line here!!
Courts are supposed to be PUBLIC and open:
“Justice must be done and SEEN to be done”…..I”m just old fashioned I guess.
“Contempt of court is serious…” Oh PLEASE!
Judge- “You WILL lick my ass!”
Ordinary person – “No I won’t!”
Judge – “Harrumph! Bluster Bluster! Comtempt of Court! 180 days in jail!”
And the law wonders why they get no respect? Could it be because they do stupid things and expect that no one will notice.
Sharia law has come to the US.
Her word is half the word of a man now, much less with these two “men”. Maybe she should be whipped and stoned to death now? But these were in fact white guys so she might be spared actual death, what does the Obamba Liberal Progressive social justice dictionary say?
Now these poor guys are going to have difficulties finding “rape, rape” dates around town, but again they should suffer something for being white after all, it’s not like a good wholesome Swedish Muslim gang rape after all.
Did you guys notice that the nut who shot up Aurora Colorado -didn’t- fight to the death?
Could this girl’s court experience be some of the reason why?
Truth is she needed her OWN lawyer to be there, purely to protect her interests and make sure some kind of BS deal like this didn’t get done in the interests of expedience. Or the budget, or because the prosecutor knew one of the perp’s parents, or because payola, or whatever.
Because clearly protecting the citizens from criminal behavior is not high on the court’s list of priorities.
By the way, wrt the girl passing out at a party. It is the job of MEN to make sure its safe for chicks to do stupid stuff like that. The usual way is to beat the living sh1t out of -scum- like Will and Austin when you find them.
Nothing like a broken jaw to instruct scum in the finer points of moral behavior.
Ed: Don’t know the legalities of publishing their names, not going to risk it.
I would merely note, john, that while they do indeed have private security, the overwhelming majority of their protection comes from “Law Enforcement”. Those same “Law Enforcement” are sworn to the Constitution by their very oath of office. The very oath which gives them their ONLY authority. And yet when confronted with acts such as that of this “judge”, they overwhelming spit on that oath and grovel before their Masters. Yes, if “Law Enforcement” merely looked the other way, Mere Citizens would STILL have to deal with the private security. But I expect it would not be very long before Judge McDonald’s head was appropriately blown off.
May she rot in hell, along with every GD Kentucky pig that enables her.
Sorry!
Its cool if you need to remove my comment. Let my temper over-ride my common sense. Not like we live in a place where we don’t have to worry about stuff like that, is it?
I heard that years ago law schools had a class entitled “How NOT To Be A Scumbag”.
But this discontinued it because too many law students were failing.
Fred wrote: “Need the home address for these losers and the judge as well.
Stupidity like theirs should be rewarded.”
Somebody needs to post this over at 4Chan.
“By the way, wrt the girl passing out at a party. It is the job of MEN to make sure its safe for chicks to do stupid stuff like that. The usual way is to beat the living sh1t out of -scum- like Will and Austin when you find them.
Nothing like a broken jaw to instruct scum in the finer points of moral behavior.…The Phantom.
Couldn’t have said it better! But seems to be an acute shortage of MEN these days! Opportunists, willing, encouraging bystanders abound!
Unless, there’s some sort of moral re-awakening, the downward spiralling will contiue.
Posted by: Edward Teach at July 22, 2012 10:43 PM
Are you kidding? It would be “pics or it didn’t happen”
then
“not your personal army”
What I’m trying to say is getting the hive-mind to act is very hit or miss.
snagglepuss, I’ve always been of the opinion that most of the enjoyment to be had at drunken parties is bouncing badly behaved young scum off the sidewalk. Something to do with being Scottish, I think. Have a couple drinks, chuck a couple of party crashing louts down the front steps, great fun!
Have another drink Savannah. Then blame the system for your woes. When I went through detox, it was called denial. That was in 1984. What do they call it today?? Who knows.
Plainzdrifter – so everyone who ever drinks is an alcoholic?
And yet, no matter how drunk someone is, they are not excused for getting behind the wheel of a car… why the disconnect?
Is there one set of laws for women, and another for men? What does that say about equal under the law?
Lots of white-knights on this thread who obviously don’t understand the ways of women very well.
I call a Beer Summit…
“Plainzdrifter – so everyone who ever drinks is an alcoholic?”
Posted by: Black Mamba at July 22, 2012 11:59 PM
Suggestion: Savannah might try the Johns Hopkins University Test For Alcoholism.
She may be surprised. I do believe one of the questions is: “Have you ever had a complete loss of memory??”
(Hell no–I was just passed out.)
Might be the first time she scores 100% in an exam!!
http://www.the-alcoholism-guide.org/test-for-alcoholism.html
Question: How can you indentify an offender when you`re passed out?
Curses, Rob is onto us! I’ve got my copy of Deceitful Female Wiles: The Ways of Women right here, opened to the page about being a dumb teenager and drinking way too much at a party for the purposes of ensnaring innoent, pure-hearted young males into molesting one when one is unconcious. Bwahahahaha!
I really shouldn’t be telling you any of this. The Queen will be pissed.
Curses, Rob is onto us! I’ve got my copy of Deceitful Female Wiles: The Ways of Women right here, opened to the page about being a dumb teenager and drinking way too much at a party for the purposes of ensnaring innoent, pure-hearted young males into molesting one when one is unconcious. Bwahahahaha!
I really shouldn’t be telling you any of this. The Queen will be pissed. — Black Mamba
Mock it all you want – that is what women DO.
Equal is equal. Further up, there was a reference to the Duke Lacrosse Team’s trial, when they were put under a similar gag order… and I doubt you protested at all.
So… you want everyone to be “equal” under the law, but you want to skew the law to favour women’s behaviour over men’s. So much for that equality, eh?
Wait for it… men and women are NOT the same. We have different strategies and desires. Gosh, who woulda thunk it?
Certainly not a bunch of “conservatives” who essentially hold onto liberal beliefs while promoting conservative values!
If you took the time to realize WHY conservative values emerged in the first place, dear Mamba, you would find that the basis for your argument is completely void.
Rob, you’re wrong.
The parallels you drew are:
1) Rape victim got drunk and that is the equivalent of a drunk getting behind the wheel.
Drinking and getting drunk is not a crime, rape is, driving drunk is. I missed the part in the story where it says she drove to her attackers house drunk.
2. Duke Lacross had a gag order, why not the hue and cry about that:
Is the rapists trial over? Yes. Did they plead guilty? Yes.
The Duke Team fought it tooth and nail and won. The gag order was in place to protect the apparent victim, not the team of would be rapists. Do we now know who the apparent victim was? Yes.
You’re comparing apples and Chryslers in your desire to put down this woman who is willing to face the punishment for the crime of having contempt for the Judge.
Man up.
Without wanting to turn this into one of those extended debate things which Kate so discourages, my only “argument” is that an unconcious person is not fair game for rape or sexual abuse short of rape. Not even if she was foolish enough to get wasted at a party. Her behaviour was highly risky and irresponsible, but that of the young men involved was criminal. Do you honestly think women want to wake up and realized they’ve been molested? Good grief.
She shouldn’t have tweeted their names, given that their names were protected (although I don’t see why that should have been the case, or why the two were given a slap on the wrist), but imprisoning her for it is absolutely beyond the pale.
Anything else you think I’m saying is just stuff you’ve decided to think I think. Not my problem.
I am not doing any such thing.
She was under court order. Period. Whether she was drunk or not is a misnomer. Why is it not ok to get behind the wheel of a car when you are loaded – ie. full responsiblity – but, to get drunk amidst a group of DRUNK men, voids you of all responsibility? (If it voids her of responsiblity because she was drunk… why doesn’t the men’s drunken behaviour get diminished because THEY were drunk… or do you think drunkeness applies differently to the sexes?)
The Duke Lacrosse Team DID NOT plead guilty, for crying out loud. The MEDIA proclaimed them guilty, and their wealthy families had the some odd $5,000,000 dollars to defend them and keep them free… while the entire university condemned them, asked for their castration, and even had Nancy Grace asking for their balls on a plate.
Crystal Gayle Magnum, btw, is now in jail for murdering her next boyfriend… but she never received punishment for making false accusations against the Duke Lacrosse Team… and Mike Nifong, the DA who altered evidence, received only the most minor slap on the wrist for his abuse of power.
You are comparing shit to shinola, my friend.
When someday they find her in a back alley with her throat slit after she passed out after an all night bash, Twitter won`t do her any good. Sad, but I feel that`s where she`s headed. And it is just a premonition.
Hope I`m wrong!
Anyone notice that the judge issued a gag order to protect the privacy of the rapists but releases the name of the victim? That judge should be off the bench right now.
So drunk driving should be a no-no, but drunk raping is a-okay?
Remember, going to sleep is not a crime.
Plainzdrifter – that’s ludicrously overdramatic. You never partied when you were a teen?
“By the way, wrt the girl passing out at a party. It is the job of MEN to make sure its safe for chicks to do stupid stuff like that. The usual way is to beat the living sh1t out of -scum- like Will and Austin when you find them.” – The Phantom
No, it is not the job of MEN to make sure it’s safe for women to do stupid stuff. It is women who need to take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions. Stop treating them like incompetent idiots. Do you think women are making sure it’s safe for men to do stupid stuff? No.
Women are always screeching about “equality” yet want to cherry pick what their responsibilities are.
Now with regards to the article – there was a gag order issued. She published their names. She broke the order. Is she above the law?
It states in the link within the above link,
“The boys have not yet been sentenced.
The Courier-Journal is not naming them; the newspaper usually does not identify minors in juvenile court, with the exception of some cases, like murder.”
And that is likely why there was a gag order – because they are minors. Same as what we have in Canada. Like it or not that is the law. If we don’t like it, get the law changed. Lord knows there are some juvenile’s who have been charged with crimes that I don’t want living next door to me.
She broke the law, deal with it.
LSo drunk driving should be a no-no, but drunk raping is a-okay? — Black Mamba
Is a woman less responsible for becoming drunk than a man?
Stop being facetious.
The law applies equally, or it doesn’t.
It seems to me that you want women to be equal in ways that advantage them, but still declared unequal when it suits their purposes too.
Again… back to Plato… everyone must be held equal under the law.
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I could be accusatory
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Despite my obvious perjury.
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Causing untold agony
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I would be officially
protected by immunity
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I could act appallingly
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Anyone notice that the judge issued a gag order to protect the privacy of the rapists but releases the name of the victim? That judge should be off the bench right now. – Aviator
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012307200106&nclick_check=1
““So many of my rights have been taken away by these boys,” said Dietrich, who waived confidentiality in her case to speak to The Courier-Journal. Her parents also gave their written permission for her to speak with the newspaper.”
The judge didn’t release the name of the victim.
Silly question…but why would you want to screw somebody who was passed out..?..really…isn’t participation half the fun or did I miss something?
She is apparently breaking the law and the judge says she will pay… too bad the arsehole behind the bench can’t apply the same logic to those two scummbags who also willfully made a decision to break the law and rape a helpless victim ( it matters not a wit how she became helpless… they had a choice to act or not to act and they chose wrong.) So where is the justice???
Good on her – the law in this case is not being applied fairly and there is no justice.
Silly question…but why would you want to screw somebody who was passed out..?..really…isn’t participation half the fun or did I miss something?
Posted by: syncrodox at July 23, 2012 3:00 AM
Sadly you appear to be a dying breed my dear Sync.
For all you “but she broke the law” sheep kissing the behinds of your superiors, try to break from your borg programming, pull your noses out of your masters behind, wipe off the offensive brown stuff, breath freely for once and have an independent, well reasoned (logical) thought will ya?