“Through consolidation, we should be able to save hundreds of millions of dollars. We’re not at a point where we have an exact number yet, of course.” – Economic Development Minister Brad Duguid
I wonder how Mr. McGuinty can blame the petro-dollar for Ontario’s state of affairs when his own minister doesn’t really know where the monies are going?
h/t, HoM
Do these people ever get it when it comes to balancing budgets, spending foolishly, etc..
Cut the civil service.
Privatize snow removal, parks maintenance, garbage pickup and all these other civil service union paid jobs and let the private sector provide the service.
Balance your budget…if no money left in the pot…don’t spend more money.
Unions (Teachers) pay roll back + benefits. Drop provincial corporate taxes to stimulate company investment in the province.
Increasing social spending to buy votes, giving in to unions to buy votes, not cutting civil servants to buy votes, etc does not work. Sooner or later the money runs out to support these programs. The only thing remaining after this is to tax the poor guy that is trying to raise a family.
Maybe Brad Wall should move to Ontario and show them how to fix their sick economy.
There is not a clue in the entire Ontario legislature how to get out of the hole both parties have dug with socialist largess and by not dismantling public sector unions – who get most of the “subsidy”
“It’s complete incompetence on the part of the McGuinty government,” said McNaughton” No, really? Incompetence from a liberal? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.
Mcguinty is wandering in the wilderness. He reminds me of the flaky president they have south of the border.
McGuinty is wandering in the wilderness. He reminds me of the flaky president they have south of the border.
A lot of my clients ask what could be done to improve the economy and investment returns. My answer is simple. Quit voting for people who promise you something by taking it away from someone else. No good can come from taking prductive resources from individuals who created them and giving them to people who did not. This cuts right across political lines and goes to core principals.
@ Mike M, “Maybe Brad Wall should move to Ontario and show them how to fix their sick economy.”
There is not much evidence of cut backs here yet. The proof will be in the pudding, as I think the bureaucracy has too much power to allow meaningful cutbacks.
We also need right to work legislation and some privatization in certain areas.
Get rid of Oceans and Fisheries would be a great help to rural governments.
They have been sharing throat swabs with this crew.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46571276
Even this is not enough for the sleepwalking (or is it masochistic)Ontario taxpayer to punt this commie kleptocrat.
They truly derseve the label “Morontario”.
Suck it up you have-not welfare skanks, more hard times a comin’ as long as Douchebag Dalton continues to give you the astroglide treatment.
What a stunningly inadvertant admission of incompetence from a minister. Add Dwight Duncan to the mix as well who as Minister of Finance had to hire a consultant to tell him how bad the economy is.
Mike M.: You can’t blame the civil service for all of this as I expect many of their recommendations have been overruled by the politicians. The McGuinty government is truly a piece of work.
Mcguinty and his cronies won’t change. The won’t take on the teachers and other unions. They don’t have the guts. They’ll keep doing the same thing until they get thrown out and a new Mike Harris shows up and cleans up a worse mess than the one left by Bob Rae. And that new Mike Harris is not Tim Hudak.
Maybe Brad Wall should move to Ontario and show them how to fix their sick economy. Sorry, Brad Wall is fallowing in the foot steps of Mcguinty. Lots of money for wind mills and CO2 to save the planet. This man is not as good for the people of Sask. as he appears.
What an insignificant and ignorant man, and yet Ontario voters have returned him three times. He like Bob Rae is destroying Ontario’s economy and still refuses to admit the truth. It is not the oil sands that are killing Ontario, it is the provincial Liberals.
The Green Dictator is at it again. When LPC had their last convention they should have asked Obambi for his teleprompter from his advisors. The Dictator cannot speak well unless scripted.
Lately my first thought has been that McGuinty needs to be assassinated – but you can’t do that, right? – then I back off and think that desecration of his eventual grave will suffice, but now I really really think this arsehole needs to go to jail.
The electorate is beyond reform. The only hope is to eliminate the concept of re-election from our vocabulary. If a politician knows he isn’t allowed more than one term, he goes in to ideally fix or properly manage things and then back to his real career. A professional politician knows that all that you can do with a fiscal disaster like Ontario is play around the edges of the problems without pissing off all the entrenched interests (spoiling hopes of re-election). For continuity you could stagger 4 year terms every two years for half the legislative seats. I also like the idea of bonuses for surpluses and paying down debt and conversely, stiff progressive salary reductions for deficits. This would hopefully eliminate the typical NDP do-gooder whose best hope at financial success is as a professional politician giving away taxpayer’s stuff. To dream!
Mississauga Matt- Don’t try to send McGuinty to jail in either Owen Sound, Walkerton or Sarnia.
He’s closed them all down in favor of his new super-duper jails in Windsor & Penetang. Communities in which he has friends at ballot box time.
Brad Wall is no answer. SK has over 80 crown corporations and he hasn’t dismantled one. He is tommy douglas lite.
As for dultin, he would do well by privatizing a few things starting with the LCBO. No gov’t should be in the liquor business. Another novel idea- quit spending.
Dultin will take the high jump shortly. He wont stick around to cleanup this mess.
Ken (Kulak)
“Get rid of Oceans and Fisheries would be a great help to rural governments.”
Where did there ar$eholes come from? There use to be a time when Alberta and Saskatchewan got along just fine without these guys. Other than Lake Winnipeg there are no enomomical commercial fisheries and no viable navigable waters on the prairies.
James Bay people–James Bay. @ least for Manitoba.
Hey, c’mon, cut Ol’ Dildo McDinky some slack.
After all, the guy’s a genius compared to the dickheads who voted for him.
I wonder how Mr. McGuinty can blame the petro-dollar for Ontario’s state of affairs when his own minister doesn’t really know where the monies are going?
I propose Alberta take back , as well as not give them a penny in oil dollars. I’m sure they can find out where the funds are than.
“And that new Mike Harris is not Tim Hudak…”
Posted by: Ghost of Ed at February 29, 2012 12:31 PM
Hudak is dead. Has to be. I mean, has anybody heard anything fom him?
Anybody been checkin’ the obits?
Can somebody from the PCs please trot over to the Hamilton morgue and see if an unidentified stiff has been lying there since last July!
Brad was a failure selling used cars so he turned to politics.
The guys an idiot, hoping for a weak economy so we could have the selling advantage of a weaker dollar. What about the purchasing advantage of a stronger dollar? And fools like that run a lot of provinces, dunces all.
It’s obvious enough once you think about it – Big Government doesn’t make small mistakes.
With a lot of private firms, and municipal school boards with spending authority, municipal governments, provincial government,
and federal government, none over-strong, when one blundered the others probably didn’t.
Once you put all of your eggs in one basket, dropping the basket ruins you.
John at 4:46 pm; worth repeating
“Big Government doesn’t make small mistakes.”
The problem with Ontario’s Progressive Conservatives is that they are all Progressive and no conservative.
Dalton has been in power, what eight years?
Should have found a treasurer by now.
There is a reason that Ontario’s wisest generations (the ones who built the provincial economy) never voted in a liberal government.
Onterio’s longest period of building/affluence was during an unbroken line of fiscally responsible blue Tory governments. As soon as the spoiled PET entitlment boomers got voting we saw Peterson (deficit/debt) Rae (Deep debt) and McSquinty (Deindustrializing insolvency)
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a fiscally responsible blue Tory to be found in PC leadership any longer. Onterrible is truly farked. In a decade we will see Ontario changing places with the Atlantic for needy have not regions with a mobile labor force which must move out of the province to get work – like the Newfie exodus to Ontario in the 60s/70s
Dalton McGuinty’s Ontario is framed with the four corners of the Greater Toronto Area. The rest of us can just go fukc ourselves. I despise this man for running roughshod over some of the best rural land in Canada, if not the world. He is not stupid,he is evil.I’m convinced of that.
Scar @ 2:30, I don’t know where they came from. All I know is that a number of years ago they showed up and have to be involved in culvert repair or replacement or the municipality gets into trouble and as I discovered this week even they may be required to be called for approval if some dugouts are required in a sand pit to set up a sand washing operation. Some municipalities got into trouble in the Yorkton area a few years ago.
A number of resolutions to the Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities in the last few years requesting they get out have not born any fruit yet.
I could say more, but you never know who is reading these threads.
Ken, Fisheries is involved because some genius somewhere decided that fish stocks are “impacted” by run-off, so they go around making sure that all the run-off is nice and certified for fishy goodness, and they prevent all the “bad” run-off. They of course are the final arbiters of what is “good” or “bad”. They also prevent people from draining swampy bits on their property, even if said swampy bit is due to a badly maintained ditch as is the case at Chez Phantom.
Recently they’ve running around Southern Ontario handing out tickets to farmers for mowing their ditches. Wrecks the fish food, they say. That guy Randy Hillier from Lanark County was goaded into running for MPP by that particular scam.
So just in case you were wondering why the ditches are all five feet high with weeds around here, that’s why. I cut mine anyway, with extra weed-whacking detail, just to boil their lobster. The parts that aren’t under a foot of water, that is.
Doofus McGoofy.
The Phantom, thanks for that enlightening and interesting comment. No doubt they will soon be telling us that we can not mow our ditches either. Then the people will be ticked as they will not be able to see the deer coming.
We wonder why there is such a huge increase in the bureaucracy.
Ken
“””We wonder why there is such a huge increase in the bureaucracy.”””
vote buying????
Phantom, “Wrecks the fish food, they say.”
Let them eat dandelions.
“…own minister doesn’t really know where the monies are going?”
We wonder where the money is going? I think not.
They are hiding behind this BS excuse. I suspect all the subsidies have to do with fraudulent climate change and green jobs investment.
Ontario is 200 BILLION in DEBT, Fu k the whole lot of them LIBERALS,
McGuinty DOES have the answer and it’s right here.
http://quixoteslaststand.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/untitled2.png
No backup plan if this doesn’t work.
Of course Duguid doesn’t know where the money went. That pinhead can’t count higher than his fingers and toes. He’s busily making a mess of Ontario’s electricity system as George Smitherman’s successor.
Duguid is an idiot with the IQ of a fridge magnet,the only job he would be qualified for in private industry would be fresh air inspector in a hockey locker room after two overtime periods.We keep hearing that Dolton is considering a run for the national Lieberal Party leadership[shouldn t be hard to beat Buffalo Bob].I personally am supporting him for Lieberal leader in Quebec as soon as that job becomes avaiable,probably soon.We need Mike Harris back in charge!