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At some time in the future, when the Archie States of America get tired of middle-eastern and south american Veronicas, they’re going to cast their eyes northwards to good ol’ Betty.
And find out she’s eloped with someone who doesn’t take her for granted, and didn’t object to the Northern Gateway pipeline. Then they’re going to ask Rick Perry:
“How do you say ‘Oops’?”.
Marsden scares the crap out of me. I was wondering where she ended up.
Michele Bachmann, at last night’s Republican candidates debate, is in favour of the Keystone XL pipeline. That’s the only reference I heard about Canada.
rabbit, that was my thought, too:)
Perhaps she hasn’t stalked anyone lately?
Ahh…such simple logic. We are joined at the hip. North America. The only problem is that the tree huggers are setting vital policies and gutless brainwashed politicians are following them. At least Harper likes Americans unlike the NDP or the laid to rest Liberals. Sooner or later the brainwashed greenies will deprogrammed by the necessity of getting a life, a job and moving out of their parents basement. Most Canadians understand why Elizabeth May only has one seat. It’s time for politicians to understand that too.
“It doesn’t help that domestic Canadian lobbying groups are actively working against their own economic interests”
Um,Rachel,those are American funded psuedo-Canadian lobbying groups whose Tides-supported agenda is to shut Canada down and turn it into the pristine wilderness it was before the White Man came.
George Soros and company undoubtedly play the Canadian dollar like a cheap violin,every downturn THEY can cause is money in Soros’ pockets.
Rachel sure does get around,doesn’t she?
dmorris, all too true, but let’s face it, we’ve got lots of our own homegrown lunatic fringe as well. It’s just that thanks to Tides our lunatics are now rolling in moolah.
There is 100’s of places where these pipelines can be shut down and sometime some idiot will do that. It will come from some left dipsh@t and then hang it on the right. I can see this just as the raise of the morning sun.
I see the Irving oil monopoly down east is lined up with their Saudi suppliers in bad-mouthing Alberta and the oil sands.
Vested interests, it’s always vested interests driving these corporate spats that the fools in the green movement gladly enable.
President Obama can let his people starve while freezing in the dark, Americans chose him to make that choice for them, but they’ll need something to hold on to, and righteous hatred works.
Not to fear. Da Greek* loves youse.
Here’s why:
“Canada is a dear partner,””.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11/23/canada-lobbying-european-parliament-to-weaken-climate-change-policies-eu-politician/
H/T Da Saviour of Da Canada from Da Grecian* Formula, aka Liberal Jeancula Ad$cam Chretien.
It’s just a question of expensive oil for China or cheap oil for America. America chose expensive blood oil, from people who want to kill them. They can thank Obama the Kenyan raised Indonesian.
Much better in his mind to use Oil that is produced by maniacs by slave labor.
peterj:
Have you seen Lizzie May from behind? That’s two seats for sure!
@ KevinB
LOL. Mind you if she ever gets a husband it could really be a green advantage. Heat in the winter, shade in the summer. Better quit while I’m ahead.
What I want to know is why there is no oil pipeline from Alberta (or the new fields in Saskatchewan) to the east? Currently, oil is shipped from Algeria and Norway to refineries on the east coast to supply the east with gas and diesel.
I’m not worried about it in the long term. There is enough fossil fuels in Alberta and Saskatchewan to power this continent for a couple of centuries. When the American public fires the president and his ‘czars’ the pipeline can be finished and the oil can start to flow, there will be plenty left. It’s not as if there is high unemployment in Fort McMurray at present.
@ Al_in_ottawa
“What I want to know is why there is no oil pipeline from Alberta (or the new fields in Saskatchewan) to the east”?
No advantage in shipping it east. It was intened for Texas which is pretty well straight down from Alberta. To go east and then down takes the pipeline through a nightmare of dense population and water sheds. Then back towards Texas again. Even if we had refining facilities on Ontario, McGuinty would veto the pipeline just so he could walk beside his hero, Suzuki. The most logical scenario is our own refinery in Northern Alberta or BC/Sask and ship out the finished product. Also a pipeline from Ft. McMurray to Prince Rupert is a relatively short distance and the only thing standing in the way are the tree huggers (again) and the Indians (again). All we need are politicians with balls and a supreme court with brains. Zero for two but eventually there will be forced change. This social experiment may be costing us 10 billion a year, but it doesn’t work.
It’s one thing when Obama and various other American twits refuse to see how advantageous it is to have a not-mad, resource-rich neighbour but when we have home-grown twits….
(sigh)
One just loses hope.
Al_in_Ottawa, Ft Mac employment, stretches far beyond. There are charter air flights to major Cdn hubs, Vancouver, Calgary, Edm, Hamilton, Kelowna, Kamloops, Thunder Bay, Montreal, Moncton, Saskatoon, Sydney, Halifax, Winnipeg, St Johns, DeerLake.
The wife just went back for two weeks. Sat next to a fella from North Carolina!
The green moonies don’t understand this train ain’t stoppin for a polar bear havin a coke!
I came across a map a few days ago that showed the proposed Keystone pipeline going through Nebraska along with all the other pipelines in the state.Unfortunately,I can’t find it again.
There is this map that does show the existing pipelines. There is lots.The greenies are against one more,the safest one yet.
http://petroviews.blogspot.com/2011/11/nebraska-pipeline-map.html
The radical left re-branded itself; they are now greens. They presently control the US, which is why Obama refuses to pursue deeper integration with the Saudi-sized reserves of the oil sands. The left plans on seizing control of all aspects of the US economy, one of the ways is control of energy policy. If the US imported all it’s oil from Canada, or produced it internally, US energy problems would be over, permanently, dashing the left’s hopes of controlling the US energy policy, and US economy.
@ wallyj
The greenies are against anything that involves oil. Mention Ft.McMurray and they foam at the mouth. The only way they would ever understand the value of oil is if we could deprive them of everything they hold dear…made or powered by oil.
Start by taking away their cellphones, computers,much of their clothing, their tents,the shingles from their parents roof,cars,airplanes,transport trucks,potatoe chip bags,televisions,delivery of their welfare cheques,electricity (wire insulation)and on and on and on. All manufacturing facilities have some plastic components so I guess what they are really advocating is to move back into caves or log huts and go into pure survival mode. Unfortunately(?) they would not last very long. Why do I get a warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about that ??
Stop floating the “we need a refinery here” solution. If you refine the stable LVP crude product you then have multiple unstable HVP products that typically need multiple pipelines. I would take a crude oil pipeline in my backyard over a high pressure natural gas or gasoline pipeline any day.
People also need to understand the private property dynamic in Canada vs. the US. In Canada private property was long ago striped from the average landowner. Producers can pretty much build a pipeline where ever they want with limited resistance (surface rights vs. mineral rights).
In the US typically private property rights remain and baring an eminent domain ruling the pipeline company has to pay big bucks to route the line. Its is actually better this way. The private landowners are happy ($$$) so the State & Federal regulators should just get out of the way.
In Canada because the property rights were striped we have layers of regulators to ‘protect’ landowners.
To highlight the contrast he Bakken play that Kate often mentions essentially straddles the ND and SK border. In SK 99% of oil production is transported direct to market via pipeline. A small portion is trucked from individually wells / batteries but the bulk of it is via pipeline. In ND however 99% of the production is via truck to the main legacy pipelines. It is simply too expensive to build these small diameter lines and compete with trucking.
It is so bad that I personally managed a project where we re-activated a former US bound oil pipeline to take Bakken crude from ND north across the border into SK just to jump on the existing Canadian infrastructure back into the US.
@ Dan Tappin
“Stop floating the “we need a refinery here”
Why? The Downside is ? Why can’t we use a combination of truck, rail and pipe to move a finished product?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Small c conservative seems to have the measure of our adversaries.
I think it is useful to describe them as watermelons-green on the outside, red on the inside-the greens are for the most part the old red communists posing as caring greens who only want to save the environment.
In fact they are well-organized and well-funded by foreign trusts (Tides Institute and Packard Foundation) and running circles around our politicians.
Their aims, to demonize tar sands output has worked in the US and Europe, two very big markets, and the possibility of moving crude to the BC coast weakens daily. Enbridge northern gateway is already meeting stiff resistance from the big-pimp Indians that the watermelons have co-opted. Given BC’s recent history of requiring native agreement of all projects crossing native “territory” that particular project could be stuck in the courts longer than the Mackenzie delta proposal. Kinder Morgans proposal to twin their pipeline is meeting resistance, almost nightly the local Global TV station runs the watermelons propoganda against this project.
Our politicians are silent, asleep at the switch. It is far from a given that the crude from the tar sands can be easily shipped to China.
The stumbling block for refining crude to commercial product is the plethera of different standards for different states…is that the case in Canada?
If that is the case then standardization on a Can/Am basis is indicated. Then finished product (gasoline/diesel) shipped by rail becomes very viable. Essentially the refined product is more compact. Then the hand-wringers will be-wail the threat of de-railments…that their militant wings will arrange…
BTW the Trans-Canada Pipeline was built during the Diefenbaker era….it currently routes through US territory to avoid the difficult Northern Ontario landscape.
Perhaps the Soviets had the right idea…put the “wreckers/dissidents” in a gulag some-where….just sayin’…