They shall not sleep until we’re shivering silently in the dark.
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The obamamtola silences all.
No Music
No wood
No jobs
No dissention
Ressitance is futile, you will be absorbed into the collective
First they come for the guitar players … Next they will mandating filters on the bells of Brass and Woodwind instrument to capture that carbon dioxide that inevitably comes our lungs.
It’s not even about the exotic woods, this is more about controlling every aspect of life.
Revolution please.
I wish I could say a lesson and some good will come of this, but you know the musicians affected by this stupid regulatory B.S. will, by and large, campaign for and vote for Obama in 2012.
You reap what you sow, liberals.
The truly awful thing about all this is that Holder’s DOJ confiscated Gibson’s property based on their interpretation of Indian law, not US law. They didn’t even pursue this on behalf of India.
The DOJ has no time to investigate REAL voter intimidation that occurred within the United States, but has all the time in world to enforce the laws of other nations on one of the few businesses still operating in the country.
Holder is a fitting representative of everything that is wrong with the Obama administration. All academic theory. No common sense.
Conservatives need to push back harder against environmentalism. It really is a huge threat to our lives. Talking about how dumb it all is, isn’t enough. Open and strident opposition is the new calling.
I just joined “Friends of Science”, but would love to do more.
That’s funny I cross the border all the time and the agents have seen my acoustic many times. Not a peep.
‘As God is my witness I thought buses could fly…’
While the green goons are busy saving the planet from guitar players Obama was FLYING his two fancy new buses around the Midwest:
“He FLYS into an airport somewhere in the midwest, hops into a brand new 1.1 Million $ bus, paid for by you and me, for a “bus tour” ‘around the midwest’, and after an hour or so, gets driven back to the airport for ANOTHER FLIGHT, lands at another airport where another 1.1 Million $ brand new black bus is waiting for him… and repeats all that until his midwest bus‘tour’ is done?? Oh yes……and THEN he leaves on a 12 day vacation to Martha’s Vineyard…….to REST UP from this campaign bus tour!
And don’t forget……..those brand new shiny black buses aren’t DRIVEN to the location where they meet Obama. Those buses are loaded up on one or more C-17s. Then, they are flown to the destination ahead of AirForce- AND!…….this is REPEATED FOR EVERY CAMPAIGN STOP. On this ‘bus tour’, the Prez will lecture the ‘little people’ on how they need to live within their means and cut-back! Remember when very recently Obama told that family man to GO BUY A HYBRID VAN when he said he couldn’t afford to fill up his truck???? Obama’s ‘carbon footprint’ must be as large as most cities by now. ” http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb1_1314314885
Where are the goons clubbing Obama for this latest hypocrisy?
I guess as long as he wasn’t playing an illicit guitar he’s ok.
Gibson is an American icon, which would make it a tempting target for the obozo administration. I’ve also heard it’s non-union.
Environmentalism is just another facet of the “I feel so guilty for having such an easy life that I must make everyone suffer”. Most of us have feelings of holier than thou some of the time, the hard part is realizing whether it’s something that actually warrants pride, or just ego looking for a way to stress your own importance by making those around you miserable. Worrying about wood imports because you’re worried about parasites and disease is one thing, using it as a bludgeon on others is another.
Amy P said “..but you know the musicians affected by this stupid regulatory B.S. will, by and large, campaign for and vote for Obama in 2012.”
Sadly you are right. I have 6 guitars and a bunch of other instruments some of which are fairly old and have different African and Brazilian woods in them.
I guess I’m going to have to build a secret bunker to store my instruments, guns and light bulbs in to hide them from the government.
Yep. Shivering in the dark. ‘cos if I don’t have Gibson guitars made of protected wood from India to toss in the fireplace, I shall surely freeze to death.
At least we’re at no risk of running out of drama queens!
Revelation 18:22, 23
And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee; and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:
Touring won’t be much fun when you’re playing Chinese guitars and your tour bus is a Lada. But Cuban musicians already live this sort of life. On the plus side they do have the greatest medical care in the world according to Micheal Moore.
Hard to believe how we have gone from a proud nation that prided itself on idividual freedom to mere crumbs of permission from the nanny state.
And we are fighting for freedom for other countries ? What a joke.
Alex you need to follow along a little closer dear.
This is about environmentalism and government regulation run amuck to the point of absurdity.
Fireplaces have been banned in Montreal and other cities in Quebec. YOu know that place that had no power for over 6 weeks in January during the ice storm?
Just how much are you willing to have your life controlled? Apparently a lot, cause you seem to think microscopically like a good sheepling and long term or end game is not in your play book/thought process at all.
Have fun in your grass panties sitting in your cold cave/hut/soddy sucking back your rutabaga juice.
Uh Kate, none of your dogs’ collars have imported wood do they? You know, just saying….
Grim Reaper strikes again.
sounds like Babylon
well said, KJV I notice too, only the real grim reaper would use the real book.
That Obama is a real scary dude.
“Alex you need to follow along a little closer dear.”
Lady, you need to perform a recto-cranial extraction, dear.
“This is about environmentalism and government regulation run amuck to the point of absurdity.”
It’s absurd to try and keep species from being depleted to the point of extinction? Really?
“Fireplaces have been banned in Montreal and other cities in Quebec.”
Damn. Next thing you know, they’ll try to stop you from dumping your slop pail and bed-pan out the window. Damn environazis!
“YOu know that place that had no power for over 6 weeks in January during the ice storm?”
Yeah, it’s not like we have gas pipes running throughout our cities these days. That’s some newfangled technology that won’t be available for at least a hundred years!
“Just how much are you willing to have your life controlled? Apparently a lot, cause you seem to think microscopically like a good sheepling and long term or end game is not in your play book/thought process at all.”
Not at all – I’m quite happy to use a guitar made of non-protected wood or one of the new composites, while sitting in a house with high-efficiency insulation and a gas furnace. None of these laws impact me in the slightest, primarily because I’m not an ideologically-motivated retard who’s opposed to common-sense measures.
“Have fun in your grass panties sitting in your cold cave/hut/soddy sucking back your rutabaga juice.”
Thanks, but I think I’ll throw a nice juicy steak on my BBQ, instead. Why don’t you hitch up the horses to the buggy, and go into town? You’ll be needing a fresh block for the ice-chest, a bit of coal for your warming-pan, and some more asbestos to insulate your attic with.
@Alex
Thanks, but I think I’ll throw a nice juicy steak on my BBQ, instead….
No longer allowed in many places in Victoria. Also, if you invite anyone over to share the meal , the Health authourity must be notified to make sure you are “food safe” compliant. It’s the law.
Other than that I’m glad that…”You’r not an ideologically-motivated retard who’s opposed to common-sense measures.”
Thanks, Petey – always nice to have one of the liars drop by and show just how ridiculous the people opposed to this can be.
That’s funny, when my power went out my gas furnace didn’t work. Seems it needs electricity. Maybe yours is different, Alex.
Terry:
“That’s funny, when my power went out my gas furnace didn’t work. Seems it needs electricity. Maybe yours is different, Alex.”
A battery backup – primarily there for the computers, but with the furnace, half the lighting, and a few outlets hooked into it, too – which can keep the basics humming along for a couple hours, and a 1500W inverter in the car if the power failure lasts longer.
Of course, I don’t expect the average person (eg. you) to be able to set up something like that, but I believe most people are familiar with how a gas fireplace works. Or, worst case scenario, you can pick up a Coleman stove for emergencies. I’ve used them to warm up a completely bare, uninsulated concrete room in the past, and while it wasn’t pleasant it did keep us comfortable enough to be able to sleep and relax when we weren’t working. They’re fairly idiot-proof, too, although I’ve seen them go horribly wrong in the hands of real idiots (peter, that’s all the warning I’m obliged to give you). Still, if you can safely use a wood fireplace, you can do the same with a gas-operated stove.
@ Alex
1500W inverter in the car if the power failure lasts longer
Only if you idle. BC has anti-idle laws but of course you don’t oppose common sense laws.
They (EPA) also outlawed the lacquer finishes used on my ’67 Gretsch Blackhawk- what if someone needs to do restoration work? Next, they will come for my Gold&Wood sunglasses made of bubinka (African rosewood). Retards.
Where does Alex live? Trust me, in Alberta at -25 or -30 for more than a day, his “high-minded ideals” would be blowing in the blizzard.
Being from Alberta doesn’t excuse your Luddite attitude toward modern technology. Still, obviously we’re willing to make allowances for such simplistic folk; the wood-stove ban was implement in Montreal precisely because it is a large, tightly-packed city which was experiencing huge smog problems during the winter. When your nearest neighbor is 3 days walk away, obviously you’re not going to have that issue. I’m just surprised you can keep the windmill going long enough to get a good dial-up connection to the internet.
Fascists.
“It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.”
“Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.”
– George Orwell: ‘What is Fascism?’ – Tribune — 1944
Alex – we shall meet soon.
Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
lol. It’s cute that you think your fairy-tales mean something to me 🙂 Do you check under your bed for the bogeyman, before you go to sleep? Or do you just “pray”? 😀
Context is everything. Posting an exert from an article without providing a link shows an utter lack of intellectual courage; especially when used to target a specific group that the article itself, ironically, specifically points out is the problem.
The exert chosen above was designed to make it falsely appear that Orwell believed the definition a fascism included those that were anti-liberal and anti-working class which is completely false.
George Orwell – What is Fascism http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
“Posting an exert from an article without providing a link shows an utter lack of intellectual courage”
Nice ad-hom! But, alas, no – your inability to understand the citation at the bottom of the quote is unfortunate, but hardly my fault.
“especially when used to target a specific group that the article itself, ironically, specifically points out is the problem”
???
You must have been reading a different article. I agree; context is everything, so please, shed some light on what tortured leaps of logic led you to that conclusion.
“The exert chosen above was designed to make it falsely appear that Orwell believed the definition a fascism included those that were anti-liberal and anti-working class which is completely false. ”
Again, wrong. You’re three for three! The exert was chosen to show that most people who use the words are idiots who don’t understand what it means. I thought that this would be obvious; I must have forgotten that my intended audience generally observe the world with ideological blinders.
US Fish and Wildlife Service raiding no less than Gibson Guitars over… wait for it… wood.
Gee what’s the very next thing that’s going to happen here? Gibson will move to CHINA. And then the only guitar you will be able to buy will be some POS made of lauan mahogany and plastic that sounds like a cigar box on a stick.
In related news,
phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2011/08/drop-milk-and-come-out-with-your-hands.html
Feds pulled a no-knock dynamic entry SWAT raid on a company that sells -milk-. The charge? Miss-labeling cheese. I couldn’t make that up.
The really scary part? IMHO this is not some grand plan to cow the American people. That would be easy to fight, just find the guy doing the planning and get rid of him. No, I do believe this is “mission creep”. Lots of gung ho bureaucrats taking advantage of vague regulations to make a name for themselves in their departments. BATF is famous for this kind of crap (Waco, Ruby Ridge), but now its branching out to Fish and Wildlife, Dept. of Ag, Dept. of Ed, FEMA, the whole alphabet soup can. These outfits all have SWAT teams now.
Worst, they are doing this stuff without political control from above. That is extremely dangerous, because it means these little fiefdoms have become laws unto themselves answerable to no one.
Alex:
You believe in the fairy tale of AGW, do you not???
If you’re anything like the cretins on here who have spoken to me about it before, my position on AGW is too nuanced for you to understand. However, I do believe that mankind is the result of a few billion years of evolution, that the earth is about 4.5 billion years old, and that it’s a misshapen spheroid, so you probably think I’m crazy anyway. Maybe you can have Grim thump all those insane beliefs out of me with his bible 🙂
alex:
“my position on AGW is too nuanced for you to understand.”
And your s**T doesn’t smell either.
Geez, you guys rise like a big fat bass to take the troll bait.
These fanatics leave no stone unturned.
Me thinks someone has been pleasuring himself in the mirror too long.
Alex I will be sure to pass along your idling car idea to my independent Granny who lives in a third floor walk in Verdun.
Any idea where she could store 6 weeks of gas for a car she can’t drive, since she doex=sn’t drive could she just store 6 weeks of gas in the car?
Also what sort of insurance does she need to cover liability of pedestrians who have to walk over her 60 foot extension cord from the street to her unit? Do you have any suggestions for that?
Will the club work efficiently to keep her vehicle from being stolen? If she has to keep it running and folks know she lives on the third floor and there is only street parking available?
How many anti idling fines should she be willing to pay before she is able to shiver quietly in the dark and just pretend she does not have a fireplace or wood stove?
How many itsy bitsy propane tanks do you think she should keep under her bed to keep her warm and cook food for 6 weeks if she goes just the coleman route? An estimate will be fine.
Alex @ 10:58 p.m.: “It’s absurd to try and keep species from being depleted to the point of extinction? Really?”
So did you go around waving a placard when the smallpox virus was eradicated from Earth? It’s a species too.
I understand the scientific authorities want to do the same thing with the polio virus. Maybe if you hurry, you can stop them!
“Alex I will be sure to pass along your idling car idea to my independent Granny who lives in a third floor walk in Verdun. ”
Well, yes, doing something that retarded would be perfectly in line with everything else you’ve said so far. As for me, I’d just tell her to keep her wood stove, since it’s perfectly legal for her to keep using it.
I’ll just ignore the rest of your nonsense, because you just start rolling downhill from there.
Alex I am so very sorry that the advice you gave was “retarded”.
Oddly I didn’t think you had the intelligence to comprehend just how ridiculous you are. Score one for the recovery of Alex.
BTW retarded is no longer an acceptable word to use, any other specific manners you need upgrading or do you just need human being lessons?
you’re either senile or stupid; either way I’m not wasting any more time on an individual who is incapable of thinking about multiple concepts in the course of a single discussion. goodbye.
The obamamtola silences all.
No Music
No wood
No jobs
No dissention
Ressitance is futile, you will be absorbed into the collective
First they come for the guitar players … Next they will mandating filters on the bells of Brass and Woodwind instrument to capture that carbon dioxide that inevitably comes our lungs.
It’s not even about the exotic woods, this is more about controlling every aspect of life.
Revolution please.
I wish I could say a lesson and some good will come of this, but you know the musicians affected by this stupid regulatory B.S. will, by and large, campaign for and vote for Obama in 2012.
You reap what you sow, liberals.
The truly awful thing about all this is that Holder’s DOJ confiscated Gibson’s property based on their interpretation of Indian law, not US law. They didn’t even pursue this on behalf of India.
The DOJ has no time to investigate REAL voter intimidation that occurred within the United States, but has all the time in world to enforce the laws of other nations on one of the few businesses still operating in the country.
Holder is a fitting representative of everything that is wrong with the Obama administration. All academic theory. No common sense.
Conservatives need to push back harder against environmentalism. It really is a huge threat to our lives. Talking about how dumb it all is, isn’t enough. Open and strident opposition is the new calling.
I just joined “Friends of Science”, but would love to do more.
That’s funny I cross the border all the time and the agents have seen my acoustic many times. Not a peep.
‘As God is my witness I thought buses could fly…’
While the green goons are busy saving the planet from guitar players Obama was FLYING his two fancy new buses around the Midwest:
“He FLYS into an airport somewhere in the midwest, hops into a brand new 1.1 Million $ bus, paid for by you and me, for a “bus tour” ‘around the midwest’, and after an hour or so, gets driven back to the airport for ANOTHER FLIGHT, lands at another airport where another 1.1 Million $ brand new black bus is waiting for him… and repeats all that until his midwest bus‘tour’ is done?? Oh yes……and THEN he leaves on a 12 day vacation to Martha’s Vineyard…….to REST UP from this campaign bus tour!
And don’t forget……..those brand new shiny black buses aren’t DRIVEN to the location where they meet Obama. Those buses are loaded up on one or more C-17s. Then, they are flown to the destination ahead of AirForce- AND!…….this is REPEATED FOR EVERY CAMPAIGN STOP. On this ‘bus tour’, the Prez will lecture the ‘little people’ on how they need to live within their means and cut-back! Remember when very recently Obama told that family man to GO BUY A HYBRID VAN when he said he couldn’t afford to fill up his truck???? Obama’s ‘carbon footprint’ must be as large as most cities by now. ”
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb1_1314314885
Where are the goons clubbing Obama for this latest hypocrisy?
I guess as long as he wasn’t playing an illicit guitar he’s ok.
Gibson is an American icon, which would make it a tempting target for the obozo administration. I’ve also heard it’s non-union.
Environmentalism is just another facet of the “I feel so guilty for having such an easy life that I must make everyone suffer”. Most of us have feelings of holier than thou some of the time, the hard part is realizing whether it’s something that actually warrants pride, or just ego looking for a way to stress your own importance by making those around you miserable. Worrying about wood imports because you’re worried about parasites and disease is one thing, using it as a bludgeon on others is another.
Amy P said “..but you know the musicians affected by this stupid regulatory B.S. will, by and large, campaign for and vote for Obama in 2012.”
Sadly you are right. I have 6 guitars and a bunch of other instruments some of which are fairly old and have different African and Brazilian woods in them.
I guess I’m going to have to build a secret bunker to store my instruments, guns and light bulbs in to hide them from the government.
Yep. Shivering in the dark. ‘cos if I don’t have Gibson guitars made of protected wood from India to toss in the fireplace, I shall surely freeze to death.
At least we’re at no risk of running out of drama queens!
Revelation 18:22, 23
And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee; and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:
Touring won’t be much fun when you’re playing Chinese guitars and your tour bus is a Lada. But Cuban musicians already live this sort of life. On the plus side they do have the greatest medical care in the world according to Micheal Moore.
Hard to believe how we have gone from a proud nation that prided itself on idividual freedom to mere crumbs of permission from the nanny state.
And we are fighting for freedom for other countries ? What a joke.
Alex you need to follow along a little closer dear.
This is about environmentalism and government regulation run amuck to the point of absurdity.
Fireplaces have been banned in Montreal and other cities in Quebec. YOu know that place that had no power for over 6 weeks in January during the ice storm?
Just how much are you willing to have your life controlled? Apparently a lot, cause you seem to think microscopically like a good sheepling and long term or end game is not in your play book/thought process at all.
Have fun in your grass panties sitting in your cold cave/hut/soddy sucking back your rutabaga juice.
Uh Kate, none of your dogs’ collars have imported wood do they? You know, just saying….
Grim Reaper strikes again.
sounds like Babylon
well said, KJV I notice too, only the real grim reaper would use the real book.
That Obama is a real scary dude.
“Alex you need to follow along a little closer dear.”
Lady, you need to perform a recto-cranial extraction, dear.
“This is about environmentalism and government regulation run amuck to the point of absurdity.”
It’s absurd to try and keep species from being depleted to the point of extinction? Really?
“Fireplaces have been banned in Montreal and other cities in Quebec.”
Damn. Next thing you know, they’ll try to stop you from dumping your slop pail and bed-pan out the window. Damn environazis!
“YOu know that place that had no power for over 6 weeks in January during the ice storm?”
Yeah, it’s not like we have gas pipes running throughout our cities these days. That’s some newfangled technology that won’t be available for at least a hundred years!
“Just how much are you willing to have your life controlled? Apparently a lot, cause you seem to think microscopically like a good sheepling and long term or end game is not in your play book/thought process at all.”
Not at all – I’m quite happy to use a guitar made of non-protected wood or one of the new composites, while sitting in a house with high-efficiency insulation and a gas furnace. None of these laws impact me in the slightest, primarily because I’m not an ideologically-motivated retard who’s opposed to common-sense measures.
“Have fun in your grass panties sitting in your cold cave/hut/soddy sucking back your rutabaga juice.”
Thanks, but I think I’ll throw a nice juicy steak on my BBQ, instead. Why don’t you hitch up the horses to the buggy, and go into town? You’ll be needing a fresh block for the ice-chest, a bit of coal for your warming-pan, and some more asbestos to insulate your attic with.
@Alex
Thanks, but I think I’ll throw a nice juicy steak on my BBQ, instead….
No longer allowed in many places in Victoria. Also, if you invite anyone over to share the meal , the Health authourity must be notified to make sure you are “food safe” compliant. It’s the law.
Other than that I’m glad that…”You’r not an ideologically-motivated retard who’s opposed to common-sense measures.”
Thanks, Petey – always nice to have one of the liars drop by and show just how ridiculous the people opposed to this can be.
That’s funny, when my power went out my gas furnace didn’t work. Seems it needs electricity. Maybe yours is different, Alex.
@ Alex
yours to admire since you are a fan.
http://vancouver.ca/engsvcs/filmandevents/events/pdf/food_permit.pdf
Terry:
“That’s funny, when my power went out my gas furnace didn’t work. Seems it needs electricity. Maybe yours is different, Alex.”
A battery backup – primarily there for the computers, but with the furnace, half the lighting, and a few outlets hooked into it, too – which can keep the basics humming along for a couple hours, and a 1500W inverter in the car if the power failure lasts longer.
Of course, I don’t expect the average person (eg. you) to be able to set up something like that, but I believe most people are familiar with how a gas fireplace works. Or, worst case scenario, you can pick up a Coleman stove for emergencies. I’ve used them to warm up a completely bare, uninsulated concrete room in the past, and while it wasn’t pleasant it did keep us comfortable enough to be able to sleep and relax when we weren’t working. They’re fairly idiot-proof, too, although I’ve seen them go horribly wrong in the hands of real idiots (peter, that’s all the warning I’m obliged to give you). Still, if you can safely use a wood fireplace, you can do the same with a gas-operated stove.
@ Alex
some more
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/616023
@ Alex
1500W inverter in the car if the power failure lasts longer
Only if you idle. BC has anti-idle laws but of course you don’t oppose common sense laws.
They (EPA) also outlawed the lacquer finishes used on my ’67 Gretsch Blackhawk- what if someone needs to do restoration work? Next, they will come for my Gold&Wood sunglasses made of bubinka (African rosewood). Retards.
Where does Alex live? Trust me, in Alberta at -25 or -30 for more than a day, his “high-minded ideals” would be blowing in the blizzard.
Being from Alberta doesn’t excuse your Luddite attitude toward modern technology. Still, obviously we’re willing to make allowances for such simplistic folk; the wood-stove ban was implement in Montreal precisely because it is a large, tightly-packed city which was experiencing huge smog problems during the winter. When your nearest neighbor is 3 days walk away, obviously you’re not going to have that issue. I’m just surprised you can keep the windmill going long enough to get a good dial-up connection to the internet.
Fascists.
“It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.”
“Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.”
– George Orwell: ‘What is Fascism?’ – Tribune — 1944
Alex – we shall meet soon.
Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
lol. It’s cute that you think your fairy-tales mean something to me 🙂 Do you check under your bed for the bogeyman, before you go to sleep? Or do you just “pray”? 😀
Context is everything. Posting an exert from an article without providing a link shows an utter lack of intellectual courage; especially when used to target a specific group that the article itself, ironically, specifically points out is the problem.
The exert chosen above was designed to make it falsely appear that Orwell believed the definition a fascism included those that were anti-liberal and anti-working class which is completely false.
George Orwell – What is Fascism
http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
“Posting an exert from an article without providing a link shows an utter lack of intellectual courage”
Nice ad-hom! But, alas, no – your inability to understand the citation at the bottom of the quote is unfortunate, but hardly my fault.
“especially when used to target a specific group that the article itself, ironically, specifically points out is the problem”
???
You must have been reading a different article. I agree; context is everything, so please, shed some light on what tortured leaps of logic led you to that conclusion.
“The exert chosen above was designed to make it falsely appear that Orwell believed the definition a fascism included those that were anti-liberal and anti-working class which is completely false. ”
Again, wrong. You’re three for three! The exert was chosen to show that most people who use the words are idiots who don’t understand what it means. I thought that this would be obvious; I must have forgotten that my intended audience generally observe the world with ideological blinders.
US Fish and Wildlife Service raiding no less than Gibson Guitars over… wait for it… wood.
Gee what’s the very next thing that’s going to happen here? Gibson will move to CHINA. And then the only guitar you will be able to buy will be some POS made of lauan mahogany and plastic that sounds like a cigar box on a stick.
In related news,
phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2011/08/drop-milk-and-come-out-with-your-hands.html
Feds pulled a no-knock dynamic entry SWAT raid on a company that sells -milk-. The charge? Miss-labeling cheese. I couldn’t make that up.
The really scary part? IMHO this is not some grand plan to cow the American people. That would be easy to fight, just find the guy doing the planning and get rid of him. No, I do believe this is “mission creep”. Lots of gung ho bureaucrats taking advantage of vague regulations to make a name for themselves in their departments. BATF is famous for this kind of crap (Waco, Ruby Ridge), but now its branching out to Fish and Wildlife, Dept. of Ag, Dept. of Ed, FEMA, the whole alphabet soup can. These outfits all have SWAT teams now.
Worst, they are doing this stuff without political control from above. That is extremely dangerous, because it means these little fiefdoms have become laws unto themselves answerable to no one.
Alex:
You believe in the fairy tale of AGW, do you not???
If you’re anything like the cretins on here who have spoken to me about it before, my position on AGW is too nuanced for you to understand. However, I do believe that mankind is the result of a few billion years of evolution, that the earth is about 4.5 billion years old, and that it’s a misshapen spheroid, so you probably think I’m crazy anyway. Maybe you can have Grim thump all those insane beliefs out of me with his bible 🙂
alex:
“my position on AGW is too nuanced for you to understand.”
And your s**T doesn’t smell either.
Geez, you guys rise like a big fat bass to take the troll bait.
These fanatics leave no stone unturned.
Me thinks someone has been pleasuring himself in the mirror too long.
Alex I will be sure to pass along your idling car idea to my independent Granny who lives in a third floor walk in Verdun.
Any idea where she could store 6 weeks of gas for a car she can’t drive, since she doex=sn’t drive could she just store 6 weeks of gas in the car?
Also what sort of insurance does she need to cover liability of pedestrians who have to walk over her 60 foot extension cord from the street to her unit? Do you have any suggestions for that?
Will the club work efficiently to keep her vehicle from being stolen? If she has to keep it running and folks know she lives on the third floor and there is only street parking available?
How many anti idling fines should she be willing to pay before she is able to shiver quietly in the dark and just pretend she does not have a fireplace or wood stove?
How many itsy bitsy propane tanks do you think she should keep under her bed to keep her warm and cook food for 6 weeks if she goes just the coleman route? An estimate will be fine.
Alex @ 10:58 p.m.: “It’s absurd to try and keep species from being depleted to the point of extinction? Really?”
So did you go around waving a placard when the smallpox virus was eradicated from Earth? It’s a species too.
I understand the scientific authorities want to do the same thing with the polio virus. Maybe if you hurry, you can stop them!
“Alex I will be sure to pass along your idling car idea to my independent Granny who lives in a third floor walk in Verdun. ”
Well, yes, doing something that retarded would be perfectly in line with everything else you’ve said so far. As for me, I’d just tell her to keep her wood stove, since it’s perfectly legal for her to keep using it.
I’ll just ignore the rest of your nonsense, because you just start rolling downhill from there.
Alex I am so very sorry that the advice you gave was “retarded”.
Oddly I didn’t think you had the intelligence to comprehend just how ridiculous you are. Score one for the recovery of Alex.
BTW retarded is no longer an acceptable word to use, any other specific manners you need upgrading or do you just need human being lessons?
you’re either senile or stupid; either way I’m not wasting any more time on an individual who is incapable of thinking about multiple concepts in the course of a single discussion. goodbye.
I of course hang my head in shame……. :O)