Sometimes I feel guilty about the crushing debt our generation is passing on to the next. Then I read about the Saskatchewan Student Strike Over Teachers Strike. Whatever!
h/t Derek
Sometimes I feel guilty about the crushing debt our generation is passing on to the next. Then I read about the Saskatchewan Student Strike Over Teachers Strike. Whatever!
h/t Derek
At least we can be sure that these “striking students” were in not put up to it by their teachers, for that would be unprofessional.
In young people, if wisdom were present in great quantities instead of testosterone, we’d have a very different world.
I guess all those social activism/how to protest classes are paying off. The teachers have done a wonderful job above and beyond. These brilliant products of the education system should graduate with honors. Next stop… G8.
SAAAW LID AIRRRRRR IDEEEEE FOR EEEEEEEE VER………….
Most of the recent letters to the Leader Post have been pro-teacher. I wrote a contrarian view that was printed today.
Here’s the link – http://www.leaderpost.com/opinion/letters/Teachers+well+treated+already/4835887/story.html
It would be really nice if the Sask government just announced how much property taxes would have to go up to cover the teachers raise. Then, you could just present these students with a bill; they want to give teachers a raise, they can bloody well pay for it.
Do not allow them back to school until they cough up the cash.
This will never ever stop until public sector unions are banned. Brad Wall has a chance to gut them like fish and should take it.
In a recent interview of a CTF rep, the argument was made that until gov’t expenses are expressed in per person terms nothing will change. While per person is a start, I feel it should be broken down per person WHO FILED TAXES.
Keep feeding the beast and this is the end result:
“Our schools rate just below Mississippi in math and science. Tell me why, given our high taxes and highest paid teachers in the nation? Can the governor or legislature explain? Is the culprit the notoriously therapeutic California curriculum? The inability to fire incompetent teachers? The vast number of non-English speaking students? Derelict parents? How odd that not a single state official can offer any explanation other than: “We need more money.” What is the possible cure for the near worst math and science students in the nation? Yes, I see it now: the California Senate just passed a bill mandating the teaching of homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered history, just the sort of strategy to raise those English composition and vocabulary scores among the linguistic and arithmetic illiterate.” Source: Victor Davis Hanson on California
“Chinese girls call me Dik Swing Lo” -Postive K
Patricia is obviously a product of our Public Schools.
Pat, if only you knew how silly you sound playing your “rcorporate masters” meme (time and time again). My 11 year old would punk you in an economic debate. Thank Gawd she’s not in the Saskatoon Public System.
IMO, it’s hard to blame the “youth” for their views and behavior considering the people we leave them with 30+ a week.
I am more want to blame those that advocated this power to the Unions and the teachers in the first place. The economic model for the Public School System is not of this reality, nor are the instructors; hence, nor are the “youths”.
The bright side is, most of these kids will break-away from the Public School System, get a job in the private sector, grab a brain and vote Conservative. The same cannot be said for MOST of those in the Public Sector Teachers Union.
BTW, someone I know in the Health Services Union who’s in the midst of job action, still manages to coach our softball team 6 days a week, and doesn’t b@tch about it. Interesting.
Patricia…plain and simple, you are a moron and you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. “Corporate masters”…good grief.
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I’m so speechless at the profound stupidity surrounding Tuesday’s ‘Student Strike’,
This from someone who not only voted Liberal, but actually worked on their campaign……….!
“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”
Two words; HOME SCHOOL!
Perhaps Saskatchewan (and all the provinces) should take a page from Tennessee’s book.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/267893/tennessee-legislature-votes-nix-collective-bargaining-teachers-james-sherk
I remember going through a teachers’ strike in Alberta (Namao air force base) in the 50’s.
There was no propaganda either way.
We have descended very much since then.
this is the standard right-wing thing where you’re against teachers being paid decently
I’m against unions, public sector unions especially.
I don’t know many people who are professionals who have gotten pay raises since the crash in 2008.
I do know that public school teachers are already getting decent compensation for the services they provide while many other Canadians are unemployed or have had to get new different jobs other than their chosen field that pay less.
My mom is a teacher and was one of the 5% that voted no for the strike. I spoke with a friend of my sister’s that is also a teacher and she said something like, if we can get more money, why not?
It blows my mind that young teachers will not inform/educate themselves on “why not”.
Great Gazoo was the moment when The Flintstones jumped the shark
Is there any question about this?”
Bamm bamm and Pebbles led to the fall. Gazoo just made it obvious.
Bamm bamm and Pebbles led to the fall. Gazoo just made it obvious.
You make a strong case.
It was my college thesis.
Stolen from Althouse
My son-in-law also voted no for the strike.
The system Patricia wants worked real well in Russia and Eastern Europe and is still working well in Cuba and Venezuela.
“Sometimes I feel guilty about the crushing debt our generation is passing on to the next.”
I never worry about it.
It is quite clear that younger voters always tend to support left-leaning social welfare politics. They’re the folks who vote for the Jack Laytons of this world. They want government(s) to tax and spend on just about everything.
The consequence of that is – crushing debt.
Fill your boots, kids. By the time you’re poor, dumb forty- and fifty-something saps with a mortgage, your own children will be wondering why YOU passed on all that crushing debt to them.
Every time I hear about union solidarity, I can’t help but recall that SGEU who, as one of the most strident groups on the solidarity theme, locked out their staff (CEP 481) in a labour dispute. The irony is beyond hilarious.
Patricia- I AM a corporate master, and damn proud of it!
Came across this great quote from a former president of The American Federation of Teachers:
“It’s time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybody’s role is spelled out in advance and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. It’s no surprise that our school system doesn’t improve: It more resembles the communist economy than our own market economy.”
– Albert Shanker, former AFT president, The Wall Street Journal, October 2,1989
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/turns-out-state-schooling-isnt-communist-after-all/
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I would like to see all “teachers” removed from management roles and have the Public School System run by a private third party management company. I’d like to see teachers doing what they’re trained to do: teaching! THIS… is the root cause of the Public Education System’s woes. It’s the equivalent to a bunch of community organizers trying to run a country. You clean this up, and salaries, benefits and resource allocation will be quickly addressed.
Also, I’d like to see doctors and nurses doctoring and nursing; not counting pennies.JMO
ryan & patricia
If you have RRSPs, you are likely a “corporate master”.
I wonder if Patricia has any investments; or, if she’ll be looking for Hack Layton to “pull her out of poverty” as a senior also.
What say you Pat? a or b?
Quickly- unions are so powerful that they answer to no one. If they did, there would be no strike and certainly no using of students as human shields.
Just my quick thoughts.
Every Saskatchewan parent should contact their child’s school and ask for information about home schooling. Given that schools get per-student funding, that should scare the hell out of them…
What is wrong with our public schools is that they put unionized teachers’ needs first, students’ needs second and parents’ needs last.
Any other questions?
“And what’s the matter with public schools?”
They churn out indoctrinated, illiterate retards like me, Patricia. Year after painful year.
Asked grandchild if the teachers asked them to go to the Legislature. He said kind of. Said they could go if they wanted! Sounds like encouragement to me in a subtle way. Would be nice if we all enjoyed Christmas holidays, Easter holidays, several special weekends off, Summer and phoned in sick because there was a sub standing waiting for a day’s work. Plus all the wonderful benefits. We are living in the most greedy society ever. Got to have more so we can buy that cottage, motor home, house with 2 or 3 garages, etc. I guess I would need more money too – not just the small pension if we lived in a house other than the one we bought in the 70’s for $20 grand. Not intending to chance either. No bill collectors. Great life.
Asked grandchild if the teachers asked them to go to the Legislature. He said kind of. Said they could go if they wanted! Sounds like encouragement to me in a subtle way. Would be nice if we all enjoyed Christmas holidays, Easter holidays, several special weekends off, Summer and phoned in sick because there was a sub standing waiting for a day’s work. Plus all the wonderful benefits. We are living in the most greedy society ever. Got to have more so we can buy that cottage, motor home, house with 2 or 3 garages, etc. I guess I would need more money too – not just the small pension if we lived in a house other than the one we bought in the 70’s for $20 grand. Not intending to change either. No bill collectors. Great life.
I have a very difficult time understanding why teachers want more money for neutralizing an education system that no longer issues grades, especially “F”, deletes major events in Canadian history from the curriculum, and turns athletic competition into feel good “participant” events where everybody gets a ribbon, has their hands tied when it comes to dealing with unruly kids and “he said, she said” battles, but is more than willing to slip in pro-union propaganda in social studies. The curriculum comes with answer books – maybe teachers should look at them a little more closely to solve their own problems – if the grass is greener on the other side, hop the fence.
The teacher discussing politics with her fifth grade students declared that she would be voting NDP in the next election and asked for a show of hands of those that would vote NDP if the could vote.
All but one student, Mary, put up their hands.
The teacher asked Mary why she would not vote for the NDP.
Mary replyed that both of her parents voted for the Saskatchewan Party.
The teacher said thatis silly, if both of your parents were idiots what would that make you.
Mary replyed, a teacher!
Patricia, serious? Jesus arguments on equality and justice as a defense of graft, corruption, theft, rent-seeking, greed (I think there’s a few “DEADLY” sins in there) and whatever other crimes the mafia, err… the unions are up to?
For one, Jesus never advocated equality. He was pretty clear that life doesn’t provide equality. Especially given that equality means chopping everyone’s [God-given] talent to the lowest common denominator. And justice is a provision of the merciful, not something that can be taken by force. There is no justice in sanctioned theft.
Now back to managing my corporation. Helping people for profit.
There is an old homily that states something along the line of “Education is wasted on the young”. Perhaps we should take this to heart and send our kids to sweat shops at the age of twelve or so like they do in India and China. Just think how many less teachers we would need if the class rooms were full of 50-somethings that had paid taxes for twenty-five years and had real world experience, people that wanted an education for self improvement rather than as a means to demanding a five figure salary because they have a degree in (poli-sci, womens studies etc, take your pick). Yes just think, I daresay we could eliminate 90% of the teaching profession.
In case you didn’t get the message, Patricia, this might help make it clearer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxc6kzH-uI&feature=player_embedded#at=100
In case none of you got wise, Patricia is trolling y’all and not very cleverly at that.
Now back to whipping the peons in my corporate sweatshop so I can spend a week each month in the Caymans. It’s good to be a greedy capitalist running dog – starving all those poor, needy unionized pubic servants, wiping my a$$ with their collective agreements and demanding they live on just a hair less than $100,000 a year.
Privatize!
What is wrong with public schools?
People like patrica/davenport who infest the system.
Political correctness… spineless bureaucrats in administrations …. proto commie education grads programmed to spread the doctrine of the “progressive” causes….. being used for social experimentation….failing to do its proper job of actually educating …. just for someplace to start…..
But anyone who thinks that either the striking unionized teachers (self serving cretins) or the self important little twits that think supporting this scam is a good idea…. those people … people like me … are the problem … or even the issue?
A perfect example of the twisted reasoning that I so detest in progressives.
Face it patty baby … you are the problem.
I hold two degrees, including an education degree completed about 6 years ago (20 years after the first one!). I wanted to make teaching my new career, but was only able to get a job as a sub with a school board in Saskatchewan.
At the same time, I was also an Army Reservist, a senior officer with the rank of Major, four years in that rank at the time I became a substitute teacher.
A subs pay is based on days you actually work in a classroom. The same goes for a member of the Military Reserves. As a brand-new, inexperienced sub, for a full day my gross pay was $204.##. As a fourth year Army Major, for a full day my gross pay was $202.##.
When considering the level of responsibility; experience; applying job knowledge; risk; demands and sacrifices on personal life; and so on, subs – and by extension all teachers, are grossly overpaid (or soldiers are underpaid).
I don’t support the teachers at all.
JTH, Thank you for letter to Leader Post, aka Liberal Party promotion dept. Refreshing to read on their opinion page.